It was Granada TV and it was directed by Leslie Woodhead. The cameramen were John Blakeley & David Wood, sound was Phil Smith (me). The session was FILMED with an Auricon Pro600 camera. This camera was essentially a news camera and was very limited for recording sound. 2 mics only, one for the band and one for vocals. Take 2 of this version appears to have had the sound ‘doctored’. Phil Smith
@@lolcool7309 On most of the early Beatles songs--and almost all of their early hits--it's John's voice that comes through and dominates the vocal, unless it is a McCartney solo.
toppop100 The Cavern Club footage was recorded on 22 August 1962 by a crew from Manchester-based Granada Television. www.beatlesbible.com/songs/some-other-guy
+Ka Boom I didn't know that , off to Savage Beatles now. Fantastic footage I'd never seen the whole of this song just a snippet, i'd assumed that was all there was.
There are lots of reasons the Internet sucks, but things like this are one of the blessings it can bring. I had no idea this film existed till just now, and if it weren't for the Internet, I'd probably go to my grave never having seen it.
I don’t know. The joy/awe/wonder on that one girl’s face (and the way she seems to be shaking her head in disbelief) - the one who appears at 5:55 - makes me think she’s thinking “Incredible. I can’t believe I’m really seeing the BEATLES in person in 1962!”
AND they wouldn't know that the bass player who would get most groupies when they became famous, would die in a car accident in 1966 and get replaced with Billy Shears
100% Agreement. Some Other Guy and their fast paced Hamburg version of Besame Mucho (not the slower Let it Be outtakes version) were up there with Twist and Shout. It's too bad they didn't appear on the first 4 albums or EPs, or officially on anything during the 60s. Besame Mucho was recorded for the Decca audition and it's lifeless. Prob. why it didn't make it on wax.
Ha, "out-Pauling Paul," funny! When I watch some of their videos I've noticed how cool George his with moves. He never gave away too much, just a real quick little dance move, but I can tell that he could probably cut a mean step on the dance floor. I think he was the best dancer among the group. But yeah, they all had some cool moves. I watched this video again to check out John out-Paul Paul, and you're right, he did the do!
@@maggierae9918 REAL Paul was a showman. I loved how he bobbed his head while singing as he was really getting into the music. I love to sing myself & I know it just happens naturally from instinct. You won't see these movements when you watch Fake Paul perform.
Granada TV had filmed the performance on Aug 22, 1962. Granada had decided the original audio was inadequate and sent back an audio crew to re-record the audio on Sept. 5, 1962. Granada ultimately felt the footage was un-usable and was shelved until almost a year later, after Beatlemania had burst. It was first shown on "Scene at 6:30" on Nov. 6, 1963. The film has been re-shown and re-edited with cut-away shots and alternate stage shots (filmed during different song performances) ever since then. There's 3 different "audio" versions floating around. All distinguishable by the intros. Version 1, which is the original undubbed audio, has Bob Wooler simply announcing "Its The Beatles!" and also has the "we love Pete" at the end.
Version 2 has a "dubbed on" announcement by Bob Wooler saying "Live at the Cavern, we proudly present The Beatles!" This announcement was dubbed onto the "we love Pete" version Version 3 is the September re-recording dubbed onto the August film. Wooler''s intro here is "OK This is it, The Beatles sing Some Other Guy" Also, the end of the September re-recording has Lennon saying "We'll probably have to do it again."
LOKISlog7 a camera was rolling as this was a tv company who'd come to the cavern to film the new music that was being talked about, it was originally intended to be broadcast
Paul sounds AMAZING in "Kansas City"! What an enormous talent!! (And this is coming from a John fan lol). It was lucky for the world that they found each other.
+Robin Rayfield Still not the same original place. Remodeling in one thing tearing a building down is another...no history in the new place like the original...such a loss
I always liked Some Other Guy, but instead of putting it on For Sale as you suggested, I think it would have been great on Please Please Me in place of Anna or A Taste of Honey.
I love watching the reactions of all the Liverpool teenagers in the crowd. What memories they all have ! And I love the girls' hairstyles and the guys' cool, Mod ways of dressing. What a great time to be alive and young back then.
I've been a Beatles fan for a very, very long time, and I have to say, I've never seen all of the clips included in this one video. I've seen bits of some of the rare parts, but nothing like the sheer amount of stuff. Amazing, and it's good to see someone who knows what they're doing when it comes to correcting some of the contrast, levels, and exposure of the footage - even resurrecting some of the footage that was almost lost to time. Bravo Guernica!
Wow this was recorded in Aug 1962 and two years later they were on tour in America. I saw them in Atlantic City in 1964, my fourth row ticket cost $5.50.
@@countalucard4226 Right! I was living in Teaneck New Jersey at that time and we used to go to the Fillmore quite often, Jethro Tull, Chambers Brothers, Humble Pie with were just of a few of the great acts we saw, It was really a great venue.
@@theeyeinthesky3854 Yes I saw them live in Minnesota Unreal lots. Of girls screaming Caught Paul with a Teenage girl They sang great I mean great like Here
August 22, 1962. You can tell that they had honed their act in Germany and had become professionals. They were a year and a half away from The Ed Sullivan Show, but they probably could have alrready taken America by storm at the time of this performance.
4:50 omg, that harmony - what a sound. there's nothing on earth like the blending of the mccartney-lennon voices in their own brand of harmony. sent from above.
@@ciarancatney2974 Are you saying the song at 4:50 is a cover?? It is not, it is a McCartney original. Having said that, they didn't perform the song that night. Paul hadn't written it yet.
@@Cosmo-KramerNo I'm not. I'm saying "Some Other Guy" is a cover. The guy or gal who posted the comment I replied to has edited it to comment instead on "I saw her standing her" presumably because they no longer wanted to look like a complete dick.
One thing I love about this clip is the huge light pointing at the stage. I used to work at a small venue about the size of the Cavern and we sometimes had acts filmed there by TV crews. They'd bring in all this lighting equipment in addition to everything we had. The shows had a weird brightness to them in the room but they looked great on camera. So I'm imagining the Cavern was normally a really dark place and the Beatles were getting blinded by that light, but somebody kept saying "it'll look great on film, lads."
I always preferred the early Beatles. What I mean by that is what you hear, when you listen to Live at the BBC, live, raw and rustic. That was the bands best era. They sounded so tight and it was very very good.
It’s the fact that the audience have no idea that they are witnessing a band that will become the biggest and most successful of all time , as well as the Beatles themselves not knowing at the time just what they were going to achieve over the next 10 years. The Beatles before they were ‘ The Beatles’
The whole quote (from Anthology 1): _"We were four guys, that, eh... I met Paul, said, 'Do you wanna join me band?', you know, and then George joined, and then Ringo joined. We were just a band who made it very, very big, that's all."_ It wasn't an understatement, it was John Lennon attempting to de-mythologize The Beatles and put things into a proper perspective. Because at the end of the day, they really were just a band who happened to make it very, very big. If it wasn't them, then it would have been someone else. And before you ask, I'm a big fan of The Beatles.
@@Durwood71 "It wasn't an understatement, it was John Lennon attempting to de-mythologize..." Actually, it was both. He knew that he hit it big with what was just another group at the beginning, but he knew also that they came to have certain talents that no other band had (either then or now). John was very clever.
This was when The Beatles were totally badass!! The coolest toughest hip new band out of Liverpool. Energetic, stylish, polished and dangerous. Who wouldn't want to be a part of that?
There's more energy in this Cavern performance than anything that's happened in the past thirty years. The "electricity" in this room must have been remarkable. History in the making. Hamburg, Germany was the best thing that ever happened to these guys.
xtc1957 I remember people saying that actually The Cavern was stinking of smoke and body odour ...and because of it's unique stone walls..the condensation used to run down the walls from people breathing.
John's rhythm guitar playing is the unsung part of their early years... Brilliant...insistent. .and a constant... Much like Ringos drumming once he was comfortable with being the 'new guy'..
When the camera panned to the crowd they all appeared spellbound and mesmerized. Just imagine if we could go back in a time machine to that and feel the magic which was in that room.
I have purchased a number of Beatles dvds where a lot of it is interviews with people who were there and what it was like.....many comments of how hot it was and how bad the air quality was. I remember one guy in particular talking about how the kids would stop dancing and move towards the stage and just stare at them, mesmerized. They performed regularly for 8 hours a day for months, which really improved them as a band, but hard to imagine how difficult that would be to keep up that level of energy.
Desde que escuche su música mi vida se siente más feliz.. gracias por su amistad apesar de los años y las discusiones son increíbles personas ....les deseo que sean felices y se diviertan en el cielo te extrañamos Harrison y jhon con cariño un servidor mas
Pero George Martin y los técnicos se quejaron al principio que Ringo no mantenía el ritmo parejo. Paul John George insistieron que era perfecto para ellos.
@@macgp44 O sea..., es cosa de escuchar, prestar bien atención y comparar... No, el muchacho estaba muy bien, y ya traía experiencia. Con el paso del tiempo, se fue puliendo más. Además, Ringo era elegante para interpretar, lo que le daba un aire muy especial sentado a la batería. Creó, también, algunas técnicas de golpes en la batería...
That's why the right's owners sued them. John loved the Rutles, as did George. Linda got Paul to appreciate them. Don't know about Ringo but probably not.
They evolved into the world's greatest band. In the 7 years they were famous, they scored 20 #1 hits. After they broke up, Paul hit the #1 spot 9 times, John and Ringo 2 times each and George Harrison 3 times. Try to think of any group whose members scored 36 #1 hits. you won't find another to thiis day and probably not in any future universe.
This first song is one of the most important and memorable musical performances ever recorded. There was enough electricity in this show to power a major city for a century. Right up there with their "rooftop" concert, Jimi Hendrix Experience at Monterey, Buddy Holly on Sullivan, Elvis on Sullivan, Led Zeppelin at Madison Square, Cream at Albert Hall, the list goes on and on. Go on then, add your own personal favorite.
Bob Dylan and the Hawks, 1966...pick any concert. Then The Band at their last concert, 1976...forgetting the brass sections, they were ridiculous...and in their mid-late 30's.
This was Aug. 22, 1962 & Ringo had only been a Beatle since the 18th. It was the first time they were professionally filmed by Granada TV. They were asked by the filmmaker, Leslie Woodhead, to perform "Some Other Guy" twice. The muted part is them singing "Money" (with "One After 909" playing on the soundtrack) All this is explained in Mark Lewisohn's (fantastic) book "Tune In-The Beatles: All These Years." The voice speaking at the end is their manager, Brian Epstein.
Just about finished reading that book. it has to be the most researched book on the Beatles. anyone who wants to know almost anything and everything of the Beatles early history should read it. beware it is very long and detailed. I believe the second half is in the works.
Yeah, about 600 pages and ends right before Please Please Me (LP) is released.(!) Along with JPGR bios and meticulously tracing the band's formation/development, Tune In is an excellent discussion of England's post-war social and economic turmoil, how its pop culture emerged, etc. I'm eager for next volume. And I'm really really hoping BD ceases touring long enough to produce Chronicles volume two. Back to the typewriter, Mr. Z.
Ah - thanks for the clarification, njriley - that makes sense. I'd just spent most of the video time staring at the rather quiet, slightly blurry figure on drums, trying to work out whether it was Pete or Ringo.. thinking it did look more like Ringo, but then wondering if this recording wouldn't have been a little too early for that to have been the case. I do seem to remember hearing of this TV recording before - wasn't it shown as a short segment on the burgeoning local North-West/Liverpool young people's music/club scene as part of a general current affairs programme? Sounds like I need to get round to reading that book! Again, thanks, also to vettefool and Joseph Leiper, for the recommendation.
In lots of ways getting old is ess aitch one tee but I can truly say I feel privileged that I was 16 years old in '62 and living near Liverpool AND visiting the (original) Cavern. So many good bands there then, not just the Beatles. ...A rickety wooden staircase going down from street level, no ventilation (except near the bottom of the stairs some cool air blew in from somewhere - probably a sewer!), sweaty as hell, jam packed, almost no lighting (a red bulb over the stage and another over one of the archways, as I remember) - you couldn't tell what the girl you were asking to dance really looked like until you were committed (groan). No alcoholic drink - it didn't have a licence. Health & Safety would close it down nowadays. ...But the source of most of the music, in truth, was American black blues / r & b, (Mississippi / Chicago) brought into the port of Liverpool by merchant seamen. Nobody this side of the Pond gave a damn where it came from, it was great. Happy days.
@michael hawkyard From everything I've read and seen, though, the Cavern was a REAL fire trap. But when you are young, you don't consider things such as that. It's fortunate that no major tragedies happened there. The atmosphere does look like it must have been fantastic. And didn't the Cavern have official membership cards for the regulars to carry with them ?
I still can't believe that the Cavern Club was demolished! Vandalism at it's very worst. I remember going on a pilgrimage from Manchester to Liverpool with some friends (circa 1963) to visit this iconic club. Absolute magic!
The camera work here is ahead of its time. The shots and angles showing the view from behind the band, including the band and their crowd's-eye view: they are remarkable.
YEAH , HIS ( FRIENDS ) SCREWED HIM OVER BUT VINDICATION $WISE WHEN ANTHOLOGY CAME AROUND, HE GOT 10 TO 15 MILLION IN ROYALTIES FOR THEM USING HIM PLAYING ON EARLY ANTHOLOHY STUFF, YEAH HE LOST THE MANIA BUT FINALLY GOT THE BREAD. JT FROM MEX
The remastered first take of some other guy is incredible!!! It’s like it was filmed yesterday and gives some sort of idea of what it must’ve been like to be there (sort of) the energy gives me rushes👌
@@wolfedavid3700 Nope that's the one and only Ringo. This was His first performance with them after Pete Best was fired. Notice George's black eye he got that night. from "fans" who were not pleased about the change.
@@johnp515 Then you'd be arguing against multiple sources that say it was a guy with a super 8. Think about it; if it were to be filmed for a TV channel, it would've needed to be filmed with professional equipment. And as far as I'm concerned, this is far from high quality sound or video.
@@DJcool-tr1tkThere are no sources, let alone “multiple sources” that say this was filmed by an amateur with a super 8 camera. It’s very well known and a matter of historical record that this was a performance recorded by Granada TV. It would have been shot on 16mm film which is an analogue format and therefore the quality of it would depend on the sources available, which probably don’t include the original camera negative. Nevertheless, anyone with a passing knowledge of what black and white super 8 film looked like in 1962 can see that this is higher quality than that. The film was shot by Leslie Woodhead who worked for Granada TV and later in 2009 made a documentary called “How The Beatles Rocked The Kremlin” where he meets the Soviet Beatles generation. At the beginning of that documentary he goes into detail of the day that he went with a film crew to The Cavern.
moviebuff1941 - yeah, as someone above mentioned - it was hamburg that got them drilled. remember they had no speakers facing themselves as bands do today and consequently (at later screamfests) couldnt hear themselves for shit. only reason they continued to play in perfect time was because, well.. a) they were geniuses but more pertinently - theyd been drilled together from their hamburg days. as the above mentioned commenter put it; hamburg made them.
@@jackssmirkingrevenge9365 así es hay un antes y un después del viaje a Hamburgo, fueron siendo unos críos y volvieron mucho más maduros musicalmente y en todos los sentidos.
Some other guy now, has taken my love away from me, oh now Some other guy now, has taken away my sweet desire, oh now Some other guy now, I just don’t wanna hold my hand, oh now I’m the lonely one, as lonely as I can feel all right Some other guy now, is sippin' up the honey like a yellow dog, oh now Some other guy now, has taken my love just like I’m gone, oh now Some other guy now, has taken my love away from me, oh now I’m the lonely one, as lonely as I can feel all right Oh oh hoho Oh yeah! Ow! Ow! Some other guy, is makin' me very very mad, oh now Some other guy now, is makin' my past seem oh so bad, oh now Some other guy now, she was the first girl I ever had, oh now I’m the lonely one, as lonely as I can feel all right Oh oh hoho I’m a-talkin' to you, right now Ow! Hey! Yeah!
@@tr5947 That's true, but I still think he looks shorter in comparison to Paul than he should. I'm going to check out some of their later concert clips just to see how the two compare heighth wise.
If you pay attention you can see that George almost never faces the crowd/camera, and is always sideways. This was because he had a black eye due to someone punching him because they wanted Pete Best and not Ringo.
From what i have heard on some TV program featuring the history of the Beatles, this video footage must be something that was recorded around the time the band were getting a bit closer to the national name, if i'm not wrong. This show must have happened when the band were getting near the end of their cavern's era. It wasn't long before the band became a regular charttopper on the UK music scene.
