Someone Copied My Favorite Stove! - Soto ST-320 - I Can't Believe It!

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I can't believe that some company has copied my favorite stove, the Soto ST-320 Cassette Stove!
I also can't believe how inexpensive this stove is!
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Fuel : ISOButane. I have read in the comments on the FireMaple website that this stove is compatible with the Z1 propane adapter and according to those reviews the stove works without any issues on that fuel. The web site says nothing about this capability and the instructions specifically state not to use any fuel other than butane/propane mixture.
BTU’s : 15000BTU/h
Dimensions Stored in case : 7.5” wide x 7.5” long, 4” thick
Dimensions Set-up : 9.5” wide x 9.5 long x 4.75” tall
Hose Length : 26”
Materials : Stainless Steel, Aluminum, Copper
Weight with Case : 2.6lbs
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Case : 4.6oz
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@brianlux6728 8 месяцев назад

Welcome to Chinese patent infringement unchecked.

@ssmolder 8 месяцев назад

love it, F patents

@briandalrymple9986 8 месяцев назад

Probably TOFU stove, and will fail after a short period.

@ferruccio4531 8 месяцев назад

you might also call it parasite world.

@ssmolder 8 месяцев назад

@@briandalrymple9986 then buy another one, u can buy 6 for until u go even with the scam-320

@ssmolder 8 месяцев назад

its so funny to see people defend getting scammed@@ferruccio4531

@billpetersen298 8 месяцев назад

Please don’t promote, stolen designs. At that price, made in a forced labour camp.

@BenAllen1776 8 месяцев назад

Supporting and profiting with your Amazon Affiliate links from intellectual property theft is not a good look.

@toddperkins2232 8 месяцев назад

I really like how you were so fair on that judgment of both stoves and as an average camper the $12 one would be perfect for me thank you

@mazdamaniac4643 6 месяцев назад

I've been left very wary of using Chinese knock-offs, they've let me down so many times and in some cases created a dangerous condition, they've almost all ended up in the bin. After adding up the cost of binning so much busted, cheap gear...I'd have saved a lot of money by saving up and buying the proper gear in the first place, which I'd advise to anyone. SOTO is one of those brands where you'll pay the extra cash, but you're paying for extreme reliability and dependable performance, which is absolutely worth it in the long run. If you're starting out and aren't sure about spending a fortune on camping gear when you may not like it in the end, by all means, but replace asap if it becomes a hobby. My case in point, I bought a FireMaple multi-fuel stove for a camping trip around Wales. Testing it out in the garden, it exploded from a part defect and could have killed me. If I'd spent that little bit more and bought the SOTO multi-fuel instead (which I did in the end anyway) I would have saved myself the near-death experience. Not only does the SOTO version have far better build quality, it also has some simple safety features that the Fire Maple knock-off totally lacked, but absolutely needed. On the flip-side, the Fire Maple knock-off of MSR's Pocket Rocket gas stove just keeps soldiering on without any mishaps at all, so go figure...🤷

@davidnorman7715 8 месяцев назад

Buy cheap,buy twice.

@jakeells66 8 месяцев назад

I don't think that's how the saying goes. Sometimes buying twice is still cheaper than buying once...

@azclaimjumper 8 месяцев назад

I, sincerely, hope that adage holds true in this case.

@tonysicily2687 6 месяцев назад

$75 vs $12 umm. Happy to buy it twice at that price, 3x or even 4x still saving some serious $$$$$

@Andylismore76 3 месяца назад

And save £50...no brainer

@johngalt6929 8 месяцев назад

A useless gimmick stove now has a useless knockoff made in China.

@ebikecnx7239 8 месяцев назад

My GSI Outdoors 4 cup espresso was $12 compared to $50 but was made in the same Chinese factory as the GSI as the materials are 100% identical, only difference is no GSI logo which I prefer.

@dougt8215 6 месяцев назад

I suspect sometimes these knock-offs are made in the same factory on a night shift. The factory is making them under a contract with the original company that off-shored production, but then the factory pretends the knock-offs must be coming from "some other factory". For reference, please see the book, "Poorly Made in China" of first hand experiences dealing with this type of situation and other shenanigans.

@jarred267 5 месяцев назад

@@dougt8215 its probably not even that complex. Most likely the units that dont pass a given brands Quality control spec tests become the Ali-Express inventory. Hence these two being identical minus fit / finish

@PokeNachos 8 месяцев назад

There's no honor in ip theft.

@philippek81 8 месяцев назад

There's no honor for a company in ripping-off their valable customers when charging 75 bucks for this item

@lovespurpleflowers 8 месяцев назад

@@philippek81do you know how much the fiat dollar is really worth these days?

@glweeks 8 месяцев назад

Just my opinion, but I'd rather pay for quality than get a cheap knockoff...

@HuYeah-vg5dy 6 месяцев назад

Yup just yours

@smmj45 5 месяцев назад

@@HuYeah-vg5dy😂 yup

@christopherdawes4414 8 месяцев назад

Time and usage is the real determining factor between original and knock off's.

@2jeven 8 месяцев назад

My thoughts exactly. You should continue to use the knockoff to see how many uses you get before that plastic melts and to determine if it renders the stove useless

@christopherdawes4414 8 месяцев назад

I agree unfortunately, it is really hard to deny that approach.@@rlwings

@paulcheng5752 8 месяцев назад

This means that Soto has to be 6 time longer ( based on the price) than the knockoff. Otherwise, Soto is just not worthy….

@SilvaDreams 6 месяцев назад

That and quality control... Chinese knock offs are notorious for looking the same but lower quality materials and shotty quality in general.

@valeria262 5 месяцев назад

@@SilvaDreamsthe original isn't exactly high end materials

@TheInfidel_SlavaUA 8 месяцев назад

and thats what a stove like this SHOULD cost because both are devices made of sh.. and sticks ....they can sell it for 12 that means its made for less than 6 dollars....which reflects actual material cost and cheap labour, and no fancy schmanzy brand name to bragg with. $75 for a construction like that is just HILARIOUS.

@jonacheson 8 месяцев назад

I have the Soto, it's NICE. Well worth the money.

@LeopoldElwes 8 месяцев назад

They are definitely not the same, they're just remarkably similar. Right guys?😅

@user-ul5yu5hk9k 8 месяцев назад

The knock off will probably blow up in your face and start a forest fire

@David-mu5rv 8 месяцев назад

Yep, after shipping it was about 24$. The other difference I experienced was the black paint on the prongs where the pot rests upon. It began to burn off and it smelled. I will be sanding it off.

@caniaccharlie 8 месяцев назад

I wonder if it's really a knockoff or it wasn't "in specs" enough to get branded Soto? We've seen plenty of other stoves and burners that look and perform virtually identical but under different brands or unbranded.

@philippek81 8 месяцев назад

I like this comparaisons between well known brands vs no name products very much. Good job Luke 👍

@bigstick5278 7 месяцев назад

Sort of like a YETI Insulated Tumbler compared to a Walmart Ozark Trail model.. Same dam tumbler around $30.00 price difference.

@PewPewPark 8 месяцев назад

It might be speedier, but is it more efficient with the fuel spent? From the sounds of it there could be a leaking issue which means wasted fuel. Lesser build quality could mean lasting far less time. Could be a smaller investment up front, but with inefficiencies, leaks and shorter use life span could make it not worth it. It'll be interesting to see if it lasts for a good long time. I know I've gone the cheaper route only the item to crap out on me way too quickly. Case in point I had to go through 2-3 poorly made arc lighters before I spent a tiny bit extra on one where the wiring wouldn't crap out and fail to light after 5 uses.

@trevorblohm2189 8 месяцев назад

No strength and honor giving free advertising to a rip-off.

@MichaelLyles-wv2ky 8 месяцев назад

Are you making an accusation?

@alexanderweaver7066 8 месяцев назад

The Soto ST320 stove is amazing! I love its ease of use and portability. I bought it to replace my Eureka two-burner stove, hardly ever used the second burner; and it took up too much space in my van. I don't know if you watch the Japanese You Tuber, Tomo, but you can get a preview of many Japanese innovations. He van camps in a beautiful Toyota Hiace and his gear is unreal. His channel is "Little Camper."

@0808anwar 8 месяцев назад

lol little camper is one of my fave channel too.

@azclaimjumper 8 месяцев назад

Comments/replies like yours is THE reason I read 'em & enjoy 'em as much as watching the video.

@pitcheung5354 8 месяцев назад

His name is winpyjiji That means "naughty(winpy) grandfather(jiji)"😊

@royferrissugarbear5306 8 месяцев назад

You get what you pay for.

@redsorgum 8 месяцев назад

They should have called the knockoff the "MOFO"😂

@DarkMetaOFFICIAL 8 месяцев назад

this mofo has all the firepower you need! 😂

@WihGlah 8 месяцев назад

So some company designs and develops a great product. Sells it for a reasonable profit. And some Chinese sweatshop copies it for cheap and you advertise it? Wow. Crappy move.

@johngalt6929 8 месяцев назад

Luke is so clueless sometimes.

@eggmammal 7 месяцев назад

How can you offer praise to this potentially dangerous Chinese rip-off? Forgetting the rip-off factor alone: Your words: "I'm pretty sure I heard a fuel leak .......every so often I hear a little "pssssss" where gas is escaping". You think that's a good idea? . On what stove is it acceptable to have a gas/liquid fuel leak of any sort? None. Whatsoever. Ever. "The knock off version is crazy similar to the SOTO version.....for all intents and purposes these are exactly the same stove". Really? Safety? From what I gather one might blow up in your face and the other one won't. I often watch your reviews but this one is just irresponsible BS. Very, very surprised you did this.

@vigneshb5347 5 месяцев назад

I would go with Soto, for one, its designed with safety in mind whine the knockoff version is designed to 'just Burn' (whatever it can be) mindset. Achieving higher temperature means they may Not have accounted for long term usage and eventual catastrophic failure.

@felurfalas4427 5 месяцев назад

That means the knockoff is better because it's lighter. UL campers gonna love it. lol

@killrade4434 5 месяцев назад

The knockoff loose fitting could be their selling points. It could be allowing more air to get aroind the head and this allows a hotter burn. This is ment to be a joke btw.

@johnl2093 8 месяцев назад

Quality is important, especially if you are talking about the possibility of gas leak.

@eggmammal 7 месяцев назад

I can't believe this bloke is commenting favourably on a stove that he himself hears leaking during testing. It's grossly irresponsible and dangerous.

@ianhepburn6555 8 месяцев назад

Hi Sir. I advised you of this stove a few weeks ago. You took down my comment.

@WholesaleTurbos 5 месяцев назад

In Australia a lot of portable gas stoves were recalled. It must meet au stds. Leaking gas is a major no no.

@DiningTableOfficeWorker 6 месяцев назад

Interesting did you cool off the pot first, before going for the second test?

@quentinhope942 8 месяцев назад

Great video. Thanks for making these videos for everyone who watches. Soto is a japanese brand so it's is pronounced so (as in song) and to (as in top). Soto means outside.

@Addy-ft4ps 8 месяцев назад

Very interesting results. In Canada, this Soto stove is over $100 on Amazon. Prices are so much better in the USA $

@foamige 8 месяцев назад

Kettle was already warm. Need to use 2 cold kettles.

@Spushed 8 месяцев назад

The knockoff was first so it had the hardest task and still did it faster.

@foamige 8 месяцев назад

@@Spushed Oh I missed that. Thanks for the detail.

@namelesuser 8 месяцев назад

I think the real question is did he use the same can of fuel back to back or was there a break in between to let the can warm back up?

@ironboy3245 8 месяцев назад

@@namelesuseryou can see that he used 2 different cans

@namelesuser 8 месяцев назад

@@ironboy3245 oh. derp lol.

@colinsynstar 8 месяцев назад

I have had the copied stove for some time and I got it before I ever see Soto ST-320 Stove

@bannister-lifeoutdoors8004 8 месяцев назад

I had the knock off from Ali a few months ago , was about to do a video on it as I couldn’t find one before I ordered it . I 100% agree with your finding as it’s exactly like mine only issue was the gas connection being a little leaky on connection , but awsome trunk stove for quick brews on the go ! 👌 and £10 Uk delivery can get a McDonald’s for that these days

@PolarRed 8 месяцев назад

I think this is going to be one of those, but how long will the thing last? If you want something that will last in to double digit camps, I'm betting that the SOTO is well worthy of the extra money!

@steamingjesus5616 8 месяцев назад

Basically what you’re saying is you’ve over payed for something that can clearly be made cheaper.. you should be saying soto ripped me off if anything 😅

@floyd2386 8 месяцев назад

The thing that was made cheaper.....get this......was made cheaply. It leaked and had poor fit and finish.

@TRabbit1970 8 месяцев назад

Did you weight the butane canisters before and after?

@MichaelLyles-wv2ky 8 месяцев назад

🤣

@Gmar69 7 месяцев назад

When in doubt, by quality!!!

@jarvisskooge8602 8 месяцев назад

Name the knock-off SUKO…😂

@Stoney_AKA_James 8 месяцев назад

I would much rather support a Japanese company over a Chinese company

@MichaelLyles-wv2ky 8 месяцев назад

Okay so what's stopping you? You do what you want with your money. This channel isn't yours so move along if you don't like it.

@EricTheSwede 8 месяцев назад

I could swear you had a short video on this somewher earlier, but I can't find it now! I ordered it then and have gotten it and tried it out some since. Seems very good enough for the ~$25 I spent!

@peterasacker5948 8 месяцев назад

how much fuel does the knock off use vs Soto

@johnwillis4706 8 месяцев назад

Check TEMU in their camping section, you'll find this same stove listed for $3.21. So now you know where Ollie express got it and marked it up. Chances are Soto had them made in China and thus gave them the design for free. Foreign patents do not apply in China and neither does infringement suits.

@g4ry 8 месяцев назад

I bought the knock-off to have a look at it a while back. Where it clips into the stand didn't quite line up correctly on mine, and the little cast-aluminum tab broke off on one side. Definitely not the quality of a real Soto (I have most of their other butane stoves, but not the ST-320).

@SIGI_PNW 8 месяцев назад

Camping stove is something you use every time you go camping, I rather have quality products. I don’t want to feel cheap. Also SOTO stove is tested at field and will last very long time.

@edwined82 8 месяцев назад

Love watching your streams

@MrJC1 8 месяцев назад

Intensive purposes? Haha. Good video dude.

@floyd2386 8 месяцев назад

Did he say that? I must've missed it, I'm used to hearing that as my Dad says it all the time haha.

@frh-freerangehuman 6 месяцев назад

Been looking for a cheap stove for my hikes that seem to be more occasional than regular lately. Ordered the knock off on Amazon for about $20 cdn. For the amount of use it’ll get it should be fine for me. Time will tell. Thanks for your always unbiased reviews.

@pgpagaia 8 месяцев назад

I got a knock off recently. It is uaable but the quality is low. The pot holder doesn't sit stable on top of the stove. The flame pattern is imperfect and the materials and overall feeling of the atove is cheap. You get what you pay for. I bought it beacuase I wanted a atove compativlea wirh cheap butane canisters.

@OtherThanIntendedPurpose 8 месяцев назад

over the years I have had a few collapsible twig gasifier stoves. I find them extremely efficient, lite weight, and you dont have to pack in fuel. I prefer ones with a side feeding port, but oddly, the no name ones found in small hardware stores, or on Amazon for $20-30 are actually easier to set up, use, and pack than the expensive ones. I did a video a couple years back on one from EIALA, but it did not have a good feeding port, I have since found a couple really good stoves in the no-name "gasifier" category that I use a lot.

@kvl777 8 месяцев назад

Maybe it's a dumb question, but have you ever thought of using this stove frame as a twig stove (like when you run out of gas)?

@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 8 месяцев назад

Wow! That could win the knockoff of the year award!! Believe it or not, Walmart's Ozark Trail has a real nice 4 piece camp stove. It comes with the stove, stand, pouch and an adaptor. I've been using mine for about 3 years now. On mine, the flame adjuster is a little funny. It flares up a little when you first light, but you turn it down and its good.

@kwhatten 8 месяцев назад

How well can you adjust the flame on the knockoff? Can you get a simmer? Now I need a copy of the ST330!

@YankeeWoodcraft 8 месяцев назад

They should've copied the MSR PocketRocket2. The Sotos suck. They're extremely inefficient and waste too much fuel.

@ThePickledsoul 8 месяцев назад

I don't know why I'm watching this. I use wood.

@surkh 5 месяцев назад

It's a compelling video. I don't even go camping and I watched the whole thing.

@korpcounter01 8 месяцев назад

Someone is buying 4 knock offs. Sotto better step up in their over priced game. I wonder if the manufacturering is worth the $70 ? I'm thinking 3 dollars to make , sotto slaps it's brand , BAMMM! 70 BUCKS.

@BigMoneyPop 8 месяцев назад

So you are saying Ali Express! I thought you saying Ollie Express. Once I realized this I downloaded the app and spent some time shopping. As always enjoyed watching

@stoneinthefield1 7 месяцев назад

Any product description with Powerful, extreme, these words scream CHINA. Aka…buy a replacement again tomorrow.

@monokheros5373 8 месяцев назад

PLEASE when stating BOIL TIMES can you plesase please include ELEVATION not evey one goes camping at sea level or in Death Valley or ON Denali i keep getting crappy three minute eggs every time i order them in DENVER when they are always perfect in NEW YORK

@3dagedesign 5 месяцев назад

Have you tested the Bushcraft Essentials , Bushbox range of folding wood stoves. ? I have the (LF Large Folding) titanium, and the small bushbox (stainless steel) (clip together)

@thomaskeenan2208 8 месяцев назад

Soto has to deal with product liability and has insurance. Japan retails for JPY7,000 plus 10% sales tax. Ali X need to import and pay shipping narrowing price difference. Soto US prices seem a little steep. Hard to evaluate tolerances. Many of the copy units probably ok, but more gamble on getting a defect even if slightly. For an occasional use hiking biking stove the copy price attractive. Get a half CB and compact setup.

@patrickgogarty7129 5 месяцев назад

+Why the ridiculous costume... Costume party after the shoot..?? a bank robber or MySpace extra...? Tell your mommy to get better ideas...

@dustyrhoads6042 8 месяцев назад

Nice price but the gas leak would be a problem.One tigris recently came out with the One Tigris obsidian sleeping pad seems nice and claims to have a R 5.2 rating and less then half the price of some of the ones with similar R rating.

@EverydayBronco-dh8hs 7 месяцев назад

I ordered one 2 weeks ago and it just shipped. Total with shipping was $25. For that amount it's entertainment. The original cost more than I'd spend on a stove this size and weight, but I do own two soto windmaster stoves for backpacking and they are the best, and worth every penny!

@chairmanhsu4997 4 месяца назад

If I remember correctly earlier version of ST-320 had stronger fire output, but if used in full power for long duration the fire output head would literally melt, so in later version of ST-320 SOTO decreased the maximum fire output.

@dominikguzman 8 месяцев назад

Soto it sounds like it would be a Japanese brand. Soto means in Japanese outside, exterior, so probably it is some Chinese knock-off.

@MatoNupai 6 месяцев назад

I wouldn't be caught dead carrying either yes an alcohol stove takes longer but doesn't sound like a plane taking off. I go out to be in nature not run every animal 500 yards away. Once you understand how and why alcohol stoves work you can make them work everywhere there's oxygen. I was able to use my Ultimate stove at 7000 feet elevation at a brisk 9 degrees Fahrenheit

@fboodysan 8 месяцев назад

Bought and received the chinese version a week back, its been really good so far. boiled water faster than some of my MSR products.

@pgee8702 7 месяцев назад

You can find the Soto branded stoves in Asia dirt cheap,picked one up in Thailand for about 20 bucks in a major department store there...Us Americans paying too much for simple cheap crap...

@rayzar6720 6 месяцев назад

Id pay the extra for a Japanese made product that is made to last, been there done that with Chinese junk. Put a 600% tariff on products imported from AliExpress - and so the cycle begins. Slave labour makes companies richer and the workers poorer

@jpvoodoo5522 7 месяцев назад

If "the only difference is quality", then it is not the same stove. You get what you pay for. 75$ is a bit much. But will that plastic piece melt into oblivion in a life or death situation? Would you put that leaky gas near your loved one? Edit:: I wrote this 4 weeks ago. I sound like a big snob.. I'm surprised someone liked it. The reviewer was skeptical of a few things and intended to say that I shared that skepticism, but agreed that the original was pricey.I am grateful the reviewer expended his time and effort to film a review, which takes hard work, unless it goes perfectly. That gas leak and burning plastic concerned me. To me, it isn't worth the risk just because it is cheaper. Although I only need something safe for power outages. I would get a heavier butane burner. This reminds me too much of kids holding a bic to a flammable spray can.

@quebecpatriot1874 8 месяцев назад

knock-offs are not clones...they are below :) I own the 1:1 clone, paid around 20us...exact replica down to the black edges

@jesseballard4753 14 дней назад

I’d rather slam my head in the car door than buy Chinese products. Camping equipment still provides that option, but if people buy knockoffs to save money we will lose the option

@wishmaster2107 3 месяца назад

Can you run the Soto ST 320 on Isobutane or you need just Butane? I`m a little bit afraid. I want to buy one but I found in Germany mostly Isobutane. Getting normale Butane is hard to find. So I just want to be sure, if I dont make a misstake in buying one. The stove looks so cool and is very unique. Thanks for your help !

@opensourcedev22 8 месяцев назад

$70 difference on Amazon canada. 107 vs 35, so the price difference is real. I wonder how long the knock-off lasts and remains safe to use though. With gas devices, I would want something with a bit of longevity to say the least

@daintytech 8 месяцев назад

$119.15 on Amazon AU. Made in Japan.

@outman6207 8 месяцев назад

Ummmm every single one of plastic lighter is made in China. 99.99% of portable stove is made in China.

@BritishMillitaryEdits 8 месяцев назад

Maybe its 8700BTU on "low" then on full flame its 11k? Idk how these work yet thougj.

@Menuki 5 месяцев назад

The sad reality is that China just makes a lot of the products already. Parts, assembly, materials can be done in China and as long as a certain % of parts or work is done in the labeled country, it can say it’s made there. A lot of copies come from CNC files that have been hacked. If the machine is doing all the work from the original files, then how different is it really? In this case, it’s a Japanese company. They probably have little shame over it, they probably feel justified after what Japan did.

@myself248 9 дней назад

I suspect the second power number might be accounting for the reflectors. I.e. equivalent performance to a larger stove without the reflectors. Antennas are rated this way (compared to an isotropic radiator), but I've never seen it before with a heating device.

@harveypost1841 8 месяцев назад

Simple controled enviroment..same cup same water ..boil water..c which on full burn first.

@charlessausman7460 18 дней назад

Yeah I'll take the $12 knockout for $12 versus 75. Yes. Can buy what's 6

@crazymactech 8 месяцев назад

I bought the knock off after you mentioned it in a previous video. It takes awhile to figure out how to attach the stove to the cassette. Anxiously awaiting spring here in the north to test it out in real life camping situations.

@melatomic 7 месяцев назад

Hi @crazymactech I'm still struggling to correctly attach my stove. Would be grateful if you could post info about how you solved this.

@TheOutlier-c6o 9 дней назад

Q. Where are these manufactured? Dont tell me both are made in China. Most lively both made at a much cheaper cost and the branded one, Soto, is upmarketing for it's name.

@sockymcblackface7698 7 месяцев назад

I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to buying knock offs, money is hard to come by. That being said, I'm trying to stay brand loyal, I just bought the soto amicus, there is a knock off for half the price, but as I upgrade, I'm going to try to avoid knock offs. They are great to get started though.

@ssmolder 8 месяцев назад

12$, its amazing

@bmacaulay18 6 месяцев назад

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the Soto's parts are manufactured in China and final assembly is done in Japan. That is the normal way made in China knockoffs are born. No such thing as patents, copyrights, or intellectual property rights there.

@shawj 6 месяцев назад

Yeah... you don't want to buy knockoffs when it comes to things involving fire, and it leaks? Yikes.

@therealgaragegirls 6 месяцев назад

I'd prefer to support a Japanese company--and the originators--before supporting Chinese copycats.

@XiaoPP1 7 месяцев назад

Kind like Amazon’s own label products. Take what’s hot selling, copy it, and resell at lesser cost.

@beyondtheroadsideadventure686 8 месяцев назад

If you do comparisons on stoves shouldn't you do 2-3-4 test ro get a accurate average???????

@JohnDoe-xm9ql 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Luke...

@kevinchrist1658 7 месяцев назад

Marketing chinese knock offs doesn't really go with your "Strength and Honor" motto.

@brycedunlap 8 месяцев назад

Doing a total fuel can burn would be interesting to see which one uses more fuel. I imagine its the knockoff. Would have maybe liked to see you take a stronger stance against this kind of copycat product.

@Sardit 5 месяцев назад

8k number is the heat dispersed from the hob, 11k number is the heating power considering the heat shield and side's reflection of heat back into the stove.

@drunkchicken8636 8 месяцев назад

So what i can remember is that its likely the Soto stove company's licensing ran out with the builders in China. Then the builder's can build basically the same thing, like you say, cosmetics are different. Then sell it for the cheaper pricing, still making a profit. The reason Soto costs more is they need to advertise their product, to make profit and get their money back. Think of it with REAL prescription drugs vs generic branding.

@alicedyment4219 8 месяцев назад

Generic drugs are real drugs. Perhaps you meant big pharma drugs?

@floyd2386 8 месяцев назад

It's not just advertising that makes the cost higher, there's R&D, paying employees fair wages, and other stuff a lot of Chinese companies don't bother with.

@jonacheson 8 месяцев назад

@@alicedyment4219 No, generic drugs use cheaper packing materials and coatings. Sometimes that doesn't matter, like with knockoff Benadryl capsules, other times it does. After having a generic aspirin tablet melt on my tongue once, I only buy genuine Bayer aspirin now. That happened 10 years ago, and I still remember how bad it tasted.

@CDL_Gaming 6 месяцев назад

Should have done a test of how long it takes to burn through a new gas canister. See if there's a regulator on one or both of them and if one is more efficient. Time to boil is important but fuel usage is also important. If I can make my fuel last for a couple extra cook sessions, I'll gladly wait that extra minute or so to boil water.

@MegaTapdog 7 месяцев назад

Spitballing here, but how do we know that the Soto is original version? Do they hold the first patents? Maybe they are both copies of older original from someone else?

@travisyork3915 6 месяцев назад

They are laughing because it only took $12 for you to give them your information.😅 js

@WayneTheSeine 8 месяцев назад

It looks as if the cause of looseness when in the case is a result of the knock-offs valve handle being shorter. The Soto handle seems to lock into the stove better. No biggy.