Sonic Chronicles is a MISERABLE FAILURE (But I wish it wasn't) 

Sonic has such large cast of characters that making an RPG just makes sense

I think it made sense for Cream to have such a harsh punishment for messing up a move. If you have her on your team and level up her PP and health recovery moves, you’re basically invincible.

Reminder the reason why there isnt a sequel is because of Ken Penders’ tomfoolery

Sonic chronicles had potential and if it came out amazing Then I think there we be more rpg sonic games and I wish it didn’t fail because I like the idea of having a rpg sonic game

Funny timing. I remember watching an Alpharad video that compiled him streaming the whole game. Had the same crash issue, but I don't remember how he got around it. This game has such a sad story around it, whether it was the looming EA buyout of Bioware, the rushed development as a whole, the many rumors as to why the music is as... minimal as it is, and the fact that the events of this game are dropped down a memory hole due to the Penders lawsuit. I figured that seeing this pop up in my notifications with the "Garrulous64" name would be the most genuine review I would hear. The fact that there is a whole lot of frustration says everything to me.

this game holds a special place for me, wish it never flopped so badly because it was actually interesting... P.s: Whoever made the blue ridge zone puzzle, I hope both sides of your pillows are ALWAYS warm

small Emerl correction: there's a side quest where Emerl is mentioned, where you bring Nocturne artifacts to a 'Nestor the Wise' guy on the Kron planet, but it's VERY throwaway in the wider scope of things

If you be as nice as possible to Amy for the whole game, she actually directly confesses to Sonic that she made Dexter up just to make Sonic jealous. (This happens around Chapter 10 before the final assault, she kicks everyone out of the ship in order to speak with Sonic alone) I believe there are more bonus conversations with characters based on how you treat them, but the game deals in extremes so you won't see them unless you fully comit to being snarky or nice. In the end it doesn't affect how the story plays out, but I wouldn't say the choices are entirely pointless, since they do impact some things.

I remember when I was a kid, I would just play this game over and over again. I think I was practicing speedrunning before I knew what that was.

So I think there might be some more optional dialogue, or perhaps your choices actually do influence what dialogue you see, because my initial playthrough as a child absolutely did mention and reminisce about Emerl.

Small correction: it's not just Cream who fails the support moves if you miss even once, there are other characters that have at least ONE support move, and they ALSO fail instantly if you mess up even ONE button. Cream is just the elephant in the room because every single PP move she has is support. I know this because I remember getting real angry when I was playing the game, and I was testing out one of Tails' support moves to see what it did, and I missed one button half-way through the animation and it failed. I actually raged when that happened.

Honestly I’m still mad that the enemies and characters from chronicles can never come back as some of them were well written and all the designs are great They even set up another god like entity named Argus in a side quest. Argus is the tentacles you see in the cutscene of the past. He’s a being who rules over the twilight decides if a species is too powerful to exist in the normal universe. Also in this same side quest, Emerl does actual get a mention (thought I should mention this as you said you wished there was one) Overall, these characters will never appear again and it’s such a shame Thanks Ken Penders Real Kron Hours

Man, I love how Bioware paid attention to detail and manage to connect SA, SA2 and even Sonic Battle into this. I wish this game was canon because it fits so well paving something new while respecting what came before.

I remember playing this game all the time when I was a kid. I never discovered how broken Cream or Tails could be, since my play style was all about dealing as much damage as possible. My favorite aspect of the game was playing it over and over to keep leveling up indefinitely to the point where I would ambush just about any enemy I encountered, successfully miss all their regular attacks, and deal outlandish damage with regular attacks and POW moves. It was such a satisfying thing, so I'm wondering how I'll feel about it now that I've gotten it over ten years later.

How to make Sonic fail; Make an RPG with no experience with how it would work with Sonic characters How to make up for this miserable mistake; Collaborate with Nintendo and make a Paper Mario game featuring Sonic

I know I personally don't tend to like RPGs but I loved Chronicles. Thought it was odd years later when people said they were crap. To be fair, same thing happened with Black Knight, Unleashed Wii, and Shadow the Hedgehog. I just don't think I tend to agree with the average on everything. I remember playing through this game at least 10 times memorizing all the chao and equipment locations so I don't miss them. I also distinctly remember how suprised I was that Omega was actually in the game and is one of the only miss-able teammates.

Not sure why you said Tails sucks in this game, because I found him to be even more broken than Cream. Medi-Bot will cause the characters to auto-regen HP and PP for several turns, and it has one of the easiest minigames to execute out of all of the POW moves in the game. Have Tails cast it on himself and one other character. Then cast it on your other two characters next turn, and bam, you basically have unlimited HP and PP assuming you keep reapplying it every couple of turns. I never used Cream much because I had a really hard time executing her POW moves and had really bad luck getting a Ferox to hatch. But yeah, loved this game as a kid because I loved the Mario RPGs so the idea of a Sonic version of that was really cool to me, but oh boy does it not hold up.

Actually if you have Cream in your party during the Gizoid encounter on Kron you get dialogue referencing Emerl. This could have been a good series but there's always something that hits Sega hard. I did do five playthroughs of these as a kid when I was bored but it was hard on my first playthrough and it took me too long to play this. 😭 The Penders Lawsuit ruined this. Thanks for visiting Garr. I found this game on the used rack in GameStop when I was like 10 or 11, and my mom got it for me for my birthday. I then forgot I had this game for another decade.

Putting rpg and Sonic together into one is what makes me love this game. I'll admit I loved being mean to Amy cause she annoyed the heck outta me with her constant " my boyfriend" crap.

To be fair, you can blame whoever in Bioware told them to rush the game out which is why it was made the way it was with these flaws. Also, from the end of Chronicles, I always imagine that would be more likely be a lead up into Sonic Unleashed (hence why we see Super Sonic at the beginning of the latter game), but your theory's just as good. Also, darn KP for exiling every echidna outside Knuckles and the dead Tikal.

I was too young to know what a bad game was when this came out, and it had probably my favorite story beat out of all the sonic games. I love the game to this day although I am willing to admit its a pretty terrible game from an rpg standpoint. This game DID, however have to have a lot of work thrown out/ done at the lasy minute because of development issues. Apparently a lot of the game was made a different way, but it was lost at the last minute, then crunched. For instance all the music in the game was fully composed and made up of classic remixes but it got scrapped at the last minute because of issues, so they had to rush the soundtrack we got out.

I wasn't originally going to watch this, as I haven't played nor watched Chronicles, but then I clicked on a timestamp in one of the comments and I just... couldn't stop watching. Your commentary is just _that_ fun to listen to. Welp, time to rewind to the start!

I love how you can make Sonic confess his feelings for Amy in this game lol

20:38 What do you mean? He's always been a good egg, trying to advance society into the next phase of evolution... robots. Sonic just simply can't appreciate his vision.

There is actually a team who have been making a reimagining of this game for several years now.

Paragraph about battles incoming... Late game, shadow, knuckles and shade become really OP because they all have moves that ignore armor and or can't miss, which breaks the monotony of enemies having too much armor to be hit/ dodging stuff. Shadow has chaos sphere, knuckles has uppercut, shade and knuckles have a POW move that ignores armor, AND cannot miss iirc. Its super OP. Sonic and shadow have some really stupid POW moves too. Rings are not teeeeeechnically finite, but the shop system is definitely broken because the only way to get rings otherwise is to sell the items you get from battles. ANOTHER fun fact is that the stats make ZERO sense. Speed ONLY affects turn order, nothing else. The number of times you get to attack is actually predetermined by your character, so speed doesn't even affect that. Attack is in fact NOT damage (which is a second hidden stat), but it is hit chance. not sure what the math is but your attack is weighed against your opponents defense somehow to determine if you hit them or not, if you don't win that stat check, you just miss. Defense is your chance to dodge an attack. So defense/ attack are hit chance, attack only affects your damage when you use POW moves that scale with attack. Your normal attacks, however, do not iirc. Luck involves crit/ your chance to find items after a fight. Its not a very useful stat on its own tbh. Your damage given/ taken is actually modified by equipment more than anything else. They increase your "armor" which is (for some reason) a hidden stat that works the way you would THINK defense would work. It reduces your damage taken. Other ones increase your "damage" which actually makes your attacks do more dmg, I don't know if it scales POW moves or not but I assume so.

This game alongside Secret Rings & Black Knight are my biggest guilty pleasures. Also there is a reference to Emerl in the Kron Location. It’s a part of an odd side quest with an exiled echidna named Nestor.

My team mostly consisted of Sonic, Amy, Shadow, and Cream. Three faves and my designated healer.

14:46 So she becomes god... again. instead of a goddess of destruction a goddess of life and protection

Emerl was mentioned and given a bit more backstory during a side quest on the Kron colony

It's bizarre how this game is not merely bad, it's bad in ways that Bioware RPGs usually aren't? Did they have the C-est of C teams working on this?

I actually love this game. Mainly because it's an RPG and it has Sonic and his friends in it. I do see the obvious flaws in the game, but I don't seem to mind them that much. It just makes the game even more interesting for me. I do agree that the way you combat things need to be changed, as in, it's better to use buttons instead of the touch screen. I did kinda want Forces to not be a canon platformer, but a sequel to this game, since it ties in with destruction of Metropolis very well. Overall, this game does have wasted potential, but I still enjoy it for what it is: a hot mess.

Actually, Amy DOES have a secret story involving her, and getting enough relationship points to romance her!

There's something about this game I genuinely love, I love seeing people hate it and I just can't explain it. I've honestly played it 5 times through, seen about everything there is to see and I still go back to it once every few years

Still waiting for the Sonic advance 3 review

Oh boy listing to you talk about the combat system makes it so obvious that you fall for the exact same trappings as most people do as Chronicles is rather bad at explaining it self. So here a few free tips how to play Sonic Chronicles 1) Healing and PP restoring Items are unlimited Rouge can steal and unlimited amount from each enemy and how good the version of that item is depends only on the level of Rouge Thief skill max it out and Rouge fetches you infinite max power healing items by the mid game. 2) Tails Medi-Bot is really good as it restores PP on top of HP and it does give more PP than it takes so let Tails make one for him self and the next round can he start giving massive heals for HP and PP to everyone.(you ask how you win without Cream. You do it with Tails because if you set him up can he actually do more than her. And if you have both is your team pretty much immortal) 3) You can also easily restore PP in the early game by using the defense option as during every around in which a character defenses will they restore PP so can Sonic per turn restore 3 from the start as he gets to move 3 times per turn. Add an equip-able item that restores 2 pp every turn and Sonic has a full axe kick every second turns. 4) Support moves are just so good in this game. Like even outside the obvious Cream and the already mentioned Rouge stealing and Tails Heal bot. Tails can also give each characters more action per turns which means more opportunities to attack, use items or restore PP with a defense, Tails can also massively weaken enemies to where regular attack spam works. Or you could do the exact opposite and have Amy power you have to make regular attacks hit hard. And Shield bot and wall from Tails and Cream respectively can greatly increase defense and Omega can just flat out make you immun to damage. 5) The game is actually lying to you about your states Attack is actually accuracy and defense is actually evasion. The real attack and defense states are hidden. 6) From attack moves are Combo moves just busted like Sonic and Amy's combo attack after 1 powerup from Amy can 1 shot like almost everything if you do the command correct. So now that you know all of this I hope anyone that plays Chronicles after reading this has a better time knowing that the game just sucked at teaching its systems to you if it isn't just directly lying. (Nestor will actually talk with you about Emerl if you do his side quest and presume his creation was the crime that made some god throw them into the twilight cage)

Alright, Here's the issue that causes the crashing It's not the emulator. It's the Rom, the most popular Rom download for Sonic Chronicles from most sources is one specific Rom, and the dump of it specifically, is bad, and has random issues like crashing on Pow Moves. If you get a different version of the Rom, it will not crash, it's how I got around the issue. If it's a USA Rom, it's screwed, go for an EU Rom, or dump it yourself(if you like torturing yourself), get the XenoPhobia version of the rom, or something else. Just not the one that's 80 MB or is labeled USA, because it is a bad dump

I remembered back when this game came out someone on a game forum claimed that you'll get an alternate ending if you collect every Ring and Chao Egg and then beat the game. I was never able to find every Ring in my second playthrough. However, years later it turns that was all a lie and no one never mentions this alternate ending for collecting everything from their playtime.

This is code name for “we are going to spend another 3 hours in Metropolis.” 😂😂😂

If I remember correctly, Amy brings up Emerl when the heroes meet an echidna named Nestor the Wise.

Didn't Emerl get mentioned at some point if you talk to an exiled echidna?

"Hey the gizoids we where building up for 2 whole games as this mysterious big thing is here!" "oh hey more echidnas from knuckles rival tribe I wonder what knuckles thinks!" *sips slushy* Bioware HQ closes at 10, exit is over there

unpopular opinion: this game is actually good and criminally underrated. I mean, the only thing BAD on this game are the 3D graphics (in sprites could have be good) and the bad compression of music on DS, NOT the music by itself. But the battles was good and difficult and was a REALLY GOOD story.

5:02 ngl this theme kinda slaps

10:25 In a real fight, if you can dodge every attack thrown that's good, you live, In a movie or tv series an enemy doing that is a sign that the hero wasn't really to face them yet. in a video game either your not ready or if the first areas enemies are doing that it's a sign that you need to get a refund.

It's sad how this game came out because this game came from the studio who made mass effect 2 and the best star wars game of all time: knights of the old republic.

Okay, so the reason behind the crash is that the american rom released into the internet has a bug or the actual american release doesn't really work, im not sure onto which If you download the european rom, the game won't crash and it'll work properly, i took a lot of time to find the info about it and i tested it myself, it does work, the english rom also crashed when i played it

I don't have (or even want) this game, but at least I've got SRB2P for my Sonic RPG fix. Even if the image of Sonic characters using Evokers is somewhat cursed.

bro finally Dylan, this was the moment i was waiting for. i dont care if its good or bad, i just wanted to see your review on it

I used to want sonic and amy to be together officially and they could be in this game and that’s why I loved it as a kid lmao

I bought this day one, I was so excited to play Sonic RPG and I remember being so disappointed, I got stuck on a boss that was in top of an ice pyramid thing, sad.

Emerl was mentioned. If you do a side mission for Nestor the Wise on the Kron world (giving him specific items by defeating enemies), he mentions how he used to know a specific Gizoid, even referring to it as a friend. And he says that he wasn't sucked into the Twilight Cage like the rest of the Nocturnus Clan. Sonic wonders if he means Emerl which tracks as Emerl was the only Gizoid on Earth (and was even said to be one of the Nocturnus' finest creations, which supports just how powerful Emerl was presented in Battle, both in story and in Gerald's Journals).

Theirs's this RU-vidr named Justin113D, who was working on a reimagined of Sonic Chronicles. Sadly he hasn't updated in a while, so he either has trouble getting it going or he just gave up? The concept sounded pretty neat.

MAn, mods would honestly fix this game... and sadly there just aren't any mods atm that fix the shop or battle system or scarcity of rings

Tbh they should try a Sonic RPG again, but under a different studio

I loved sonic chronicles when I played couple years back I liked because it felt like a novel more than a game you are not playing for the gameplay (even though I love rpg) you are playing for the story even the characters art is similar to x art and I liked the chapter art so much that is the only reason I finished it

There’s an echidna on the 1st planet that mentions emeral but you have to do a pretty long sidequest before u can even hear that

Part of the reason there isn’t to follow up to this story is because of Ken Pender being petty and I wish that he would play nice with Sega so that he could have his creative credits and they could have use of his work

Curse you Ken Penders

When you're on the Kron planet, after defeating your first Gizoid, one of the characters (I think it's Sonic) says it looked like Emerl, only for Shade to say Gizoids were made by the Nocturnus. There's your Emerl reference. 👍

Oh I remember this game. The music used to give me a headache every time I played it (I'm not even joking by the way). One of the most awful and boring Sonic games. I genuinely think it would have been better if the box didn't come with the cartridge, just an apology from SEGA

16:25 The funny part is This was my team for the endgame It has almost everything except for climb But thats so rare anyways

Man if I had a nickel for every time I saw a game with a cool concept but messed up execution I'd have way more then 2 nickel which isn't wierd its just sad. I will be honest though I really enjoyed the team attacks, seeing how different sonic charecters would work together to fight is really cool to me especially the ones that don't include sonic himself.

He sounds like a good classic sonic voice actor

Still feel like we should’ve had a few more characters and a longer story.

Duse the eyes on the models remind of the Ken Penders comic art

27:35 Actually they did with one echidna you talk about one suddenly disappeared and wondered he was ok I guess you didn’t talk to him huh

If only Bioware Credits Penders &/or Archie in the Copyright label or Special Thanks.

11:38 Someone's gonna misheard this as "The forgot to program the pee pee"

I wanted that silver and blaze were present in this game

In all honesty, I didn’t notice the difference in the footage until you pointed it out

Is it bad that I un ironically love this game’s battle system Other than the evading that can go die in a ditch full of gizoids

whos gonna tell him that he sounds like pghlfilms from 2018-2020

😔 Sadly, Sega and Sonic Team decided not to make new RPG games for Sonic the Hedgehog series anymore. 😔

I remember playing this and having so much fun

There's a chao that skips the POW moves. Ferox based af.

Weird enough omega model is the best model in this game

I think a lot of people have a bad time in this game's fighting system because they treat normal attacks as an actual way to attack. Like, you just shouldn't normal attack at all if you can help it, after about third into the game it's very likely to either miss or do 1 damage EVEN IF nemies decided to use their "flip you" move (which is bullshit I will admit, but attacking different targets in single turn helps). Just forget that normal attack exists. By the virtue of this, forget all about "attack" stat, all it does is increases accuracy of normals (and maybe imperfect POWs, but imperfect POWs deal supbar damage anyway, you'd better get used to this shit, it's much easier on an emulator with a mouse), you'd much better spend points on speed for buffing characters (basically only Amy xd), defense on everybody and luck next. All PP problems can be solved by either defending (you restore PP when you defend), or using Tails/Cream, or consumables in-between fights.

Good gameplay, good story, decent overworld music, good battle music, fuck penders

I know its too late, but about the game ne crashing at the fmv tutorial, I've read that the North American dumps of the game are bad dumps

I miss Shade DAMN IT! Thanks Ken you ***hole she was such a good character for me at least would be nice if Ken didn’t Remove her from the Sonic character timeline she would been so good for Knuckles story.

27:34 Emerls brethren!

"S O N I C L E S"

A fan needs to make a better version of sonic chronicles like p-06

2:36 Hey, I think another RU-vidr had the same exact problem

Sonic Chronicles and Shade the Echidna R.I.P. (sniff)

I hope the sonic chronicles video is gonna be out soon

sonic chronicles feels like if Nintendo never made a Mario rpg but they released sticker star as usual in 2012 as the only Mario """""""""rpg"""""""""" and left it at that lmfao. seriously though a sonic rpg that's good could rule, the Mario rpg's are the bomb and to combine those with sonic would make for the sickest stuff ever, hopefully one day Sega can dip their toes in sonic rpgs again.

Why didnt you turn on the upscaling after the tutorial? Or played enough on the old emu to get past it then load your save on a future one

Every song in this game (aside from the battle songs and Blue Ridge Zone) stinks!

I ain't a fan of a lot of shit ken penders has said and done the lawsuit makes sense its weirdly similar to his main plot points he wrote for the knuckles comics, obviously he has an ego but artist and writers usually have very little rights to their creations when they are hired from corporations and Archie comics was a mess and didn't keep his contract in touch and Sega was supposed to have copy write for all characters from the archie sonic comics but neither archie comics or Sega even made efforts to even do so, so at the end of the day I think they are more to blame. But its probably for the best the new sonic comics with IDW are really good and the sonic series lore is starting to get more consistent and now we can look back at the absurdity of sonics past within the archie comics and even the random old cartoons like sonic underground

WAIT SONIC CHRONICLES IS 15 HOURS??? MAN FOR ME IT TOOK 24.5 HOURS TO BEAT IT.... i guess im just bad

Still waiting for that Sonic 2 Bonus Video

23:07 in this part l put shadow and cream with sonic and knuckles and amy amd rouge with tails and eggman

Wheres the Sonic Advance 3 Review man? Ive been waiting for so loong!

I played Chronicles before and ignored the flaws due to my challenge-seeking mindset. Bioware is the wrong company to ask for a better Sonic RPG.

I hate this game not because it sucks I never actually played it but because of KEN PENDERS if you know you know and if you don't now you know.

Sonic chronicles aka the game that killed a comic series (partially)

Bro did the idea of filming the ds screen with a camera ever cross your mind

#Garrulous64 Aka Dylan, my buddy, here are some of my top 3 ideas for the next video: Sonic the fighters ( My humble Request: Can it feature RHS, Premydaremy, Sam Procrastinates, Daveace and Twip), Super Mario Z or Nazo Unleashed DX and other sonic fan made movies or series, and my least preferred: Shadow in Sonic Frontiers Mod.