I was 7 years old, and I remember saying: "Why the heck are there loopty loops on the highway? How are people supposed to drive on this? Aren't people paying taxes or something for this?" Lmao
@@yocapo32 Lets be honest. If this were the comics, he'd have about half a dozen robot clones. Since this is the GAMES...intervention from god is really all I got.
Tax evasion is no joke and if the one dude was also in jail who could helped you get out of that situation was there. Yeah, all bets are off. Taxation is still theft.
I mean all he does is run around and find money and since no one pays him and still has no employer what is he filing for? Dude is literally homeless I mean he does sleep outside.
For anyone wondering, it's not that the IRS managed to catch Sonic. The moment Sonic considered that he could evade paying taxes, he was instantly teleported to jail. The IRS, in matters concerning tax evasion, gains access to reality-warping powers.
2:27 "Yeah, and they used the money to build loop-de-loops on the road, which granted, cool as hell for me, but man morning commutes must be hell for everyone else." I like how even sonic takes in how wacky speed highways level design choice would be like for literally everyone else.
Driving a car through a speed boost and through a loop-de-loop with car physics and actual gravity.... Yeah, sounds like frequent trips to the mechanic shop are made everyday from driving on speed highway.
Something I think about a lot is how much some levels slope. City Escape for example, you're pretty much running at a 45 degree angle the whole time. Who wants to live on a 45 degree angle???
@@GarryDumblowski I don't know, that pretty much just sounds like the actual Lombard St. in San Francisco. The road has a tight zigzag section, because it's too steep to drive up normally, and this specific area shows up in some video games. So maybe the real question is, "Who wants to live in San Francisco?"
I saw a video about how they have official guidance for how to report income from stolen goods I won’t send a link because RU-vid likes to delete those but it’s called “Why the IRS Taxes Illegal Income”
@@circuit10 The IRS doesn’t care if it’s illegal. If you are discrete enough on your forms about *how* you specifically acquired your funds, they will gladly look the other way and accept their cut.
It is a crime to not claim illegal gains on your taxes. This is so courts can subpoena your income and taxes for evidence. If you file broadly enough you can’t be found guilty through just your taxes. So Sonic could just put “associate supplies and refreshments” and be fine. Since it’s a business expense though, he could just not file for the tax break and maintain the black market purchases as an out of pocket expense.
Tails didn't technically *dis*believe Sonic but he (probably rightly) guessed that the IRS wouldn't believe it. Makes me wonder, how would superheroes file taxes? Do they set up LLCs to file taxes on the behalf of their superhero identities?
@@8tackykcat8 Do you have to file taxes for a secret identity? I mean, if Superhero-Man takes a giant robot as a trophy after defeating Supervillain-Man, does that mean John Doe have to file taxes for it?
@@rushink the goverment probably has a whole differnt system in place for the super heros kind of like how the goverment in the marvel comics sometimes has these super hero identifiers for sitiuations like court
@@8tackykcat8well it’s been confirmed in one of those DCAU.. or DCEU?.. one of those dark series, that the watchtower and hall of Justice is partially funded by the UN. And in DC animated, Stewart Green Lantern meeting his old friend admits that superheroing falls under volunteer work, unless tips and donates are offered but most outside plastic man or booster gold probably refuses them.
Building roads and public services is the biggest excuse. They pocket most of the money themselves, or they give either free to other people less fortunate. Communism basically.
I always thought the rings were just, naturally occurring motes of chaos energy. Which is why they're effectively your HP system and why they also act as fuel for the super forms.
@@wardedthorn6523Well, maybe in Sonic's world, rings are both an energy source and currency, and the reason it is used as currency is because it's an energy source, making it very valuable to the government.
That’s kinda the Archie Comics method, in the Archie Comics rings are heavily concentrated chaos energy made by Nate Morgan (the guy sonic blew up, along with thousands of other people)
@@Orange_Swirl Even in Sonic Unleashed they work as currency. And it wasn't limited to one country but the whole world uses rings as currency. And I've always win, if rings are the currency in the sonic world how rich is Eggman and where does he get the money to pay for all those robots and ship? Let alone the money he used to build Eggman land
As an accountant, I really feel for Tails as people running up to you at the last minute with no idea what to do is practically a yearly tradition at this point.
I mean, given everything else he’s on the hook for, AND the fact that the major reason Sonic couldn’t file his taxes is that he was waiting on forms Eggman never sent…. Capone time
Friendly reminder that tax preparation software lobbyists (TurboTax et al) are a reason why taxes are so confusing and complicated in the US! There's been plenty of bills put forth to simplify taxes but they fight against and strike down each one because if everyone could do their own taxes, they wouldn't need to buy their software! edit: Some more context: There have been plenty of bills meant to make taxes as simple for self-employed (own their own business, Uber, Etsy, RU-vid, etc.) as they are for people who have a regular 9-5 job from a large employer. These have of course been shot down immediately by lobbyists from both tax preparation software and people who hate non-traditonal jobs.
You know what would make taxes even simpler? Not needing to file them like most other normal countries. Why is the US so hellbent on screwing its citizens under the guise of "saving money"? I know most y'all aren't to blame but it's bullshit. And often has the reverse effect with taxes/hospital bills more likely to cripple your livelihood because of it.
It also means the IRS couldn't justify its budget increases and recent hiring of armed officers. Nor would it be able to make extra money fining people for errors and late fees. But let's pretend everything is the fault of big evil corporations, despite the fact they'd have much less power to abuse if the government didn't have so much power itself for them to just exploit so easily.
Fun fact, the IRS actually does require you to tell them about income made from criminal activity, because that too, is taxed. Al Capone didn't disclose that information, which is how they got him. Edit to add: To clarify, the IRS doesn't require to know the exact source of the income - only that it was made. So if you were doing crime taxes, it'd be best to put it on your self-employment tax form. Furthermore, even if they do know it's crime-related, they aren't required to report you. They just want their cut, that's it (think of it as kinda like how doctors need to know if you take specific illegal drugs - they won't report you to the cops with that info alone, they just need to know so they can administer the correct care). Those reasons are why it's not a 5th amendment violation. Basically you only screw yourself if you're trying to cover it up (money laundering/tax evasion).
"Tails, please, I'd be on my knees begging if there were an animation for it." is right up there with "Why do you blur the captions when you can just-" 10/10.
That's only the tip of the iceburg. That transition from day to evening is pretty accurate if you are self-employed. It's an absolute nightmare for no reason, since the IRS does your taxes anyway. That's how they know if you cheat or lie on your tax forms.
I like to imagine it was an undercover IRS agent that got sonic while he was getting a chilli dog. One moment he's enjoying the taste of it and the next he has a taser stuck to his chest from the guy at the food cart. Then sonic ended up passing out and they just carried him to to cell :P
thats how they caught al capone, they didnt have murder or illicit goods proof, but the irs was like "hey, buddy, looks like you uh didnt pay your taxes, we'll be putting you away for a long time"
@@ProjectEchoshadowBatman however... Is crazy enough to take on the IRS. Well, the Lego one atleast that's for sure. We all know the line "Who pays their taxes? NOT BATMAN"
@@ItachisOnly1 So to keep it simple; some guy made a video about negatuve thing about Yoshi, a Tumblr user found it and go pissed at it, denying everything in it. Some guy replied with Yoshi committed tax fraud and when the person that he replied to replied back he sent him an image of Yoshi saying of committing tax fraud. Someone else screenshotted the convo and it started getting referenced A LOT
Doing your own taxes feels so weird. In my country, they are automatically detracted from my wages, and already accounted for when I buy something, so I never have to worry about them.
I'm pretty sure mine were too and I'm American. I don't know if it was because I was a minor last time I worked or if there'd a system available for some people
This is slowly becoming one of those things where I can't mentally separate your characterization of Sonic from the official one lmao. I'm probably going to think about taxes on every future time I go to Tails' workshop
Unless you are a corporation big enough, in which case you can do whatever the fuck you want. So Sonic should just make a startup get big and then do what he was doing before.
Gold rings would be classified as "found money/treasure". Because nobody gave these rings to Sonic, there would be no payer to issue a 1099, but the rings, which count as currency, would still be reported as Other Income on the 1040. Unfortunately, one can't deduct self-employment expenses for found income. In other words: Eggman's off the hook and Sonic will rot in jail!
I mean if we actually go this far. According to Tails wanted poster in SA2 has he no official nationality and Sonic is even more of the grid than Tails so I say the Government can't even tax them as they aren't people of there country apparently.
@@rynobehnke8289 no way no one escapes US Goverment Dept. Of Treasury, not even those pesky antromorphic animals will, hmm Actually, all things considered Since they lived here for quiet awhile as illegals, wouldn't they eventually get their citizenship by default...or boot out of the border by USCBP ? I dunno
@@rynobehnke8289 I mean, Tails at least has a house (shaped like his head even) in Central City, which means he lives in the capital of the United Federation.
@@jackaltamer2792 Well I guess Sonic battle which first showed this house (and even than in Emerald Town with is outside of Central City which is a detail the IDW Comics that you are properly reference messed up) so long after SA2. So maybe Tails first sometimes after SA2 got himself an official nationality. Tho I highly daub Sonic ever did.
2:44 I noticed Big is on the cell to the right of Sonic's. What is he in for? Tax evasion as well? Or perhaps the car he lifted in the city while trying to find Froggy?
I’d say Big is in for probably “Jay walking. Entering 15 construction sites, 2 secret alien bases, 7 military checkpoints unauthorised. Breaking millions of campground rules and LASTLY tax evasion, AND ABOVE ALL THAT IT WAS PRETTY MUCH *FROGGY’S* FAULT, in otherwords; Big never knew he was doing anything wrong, he was too worried about Froggy, he still got arrested because of the whole ordeal and Froggy was still not yet found to this very day”
I love the attention to detail when Sonic is talking about how many Rings he collects from the stages. I noticed that he skipped over Casinopolis, and for good reason; Even if you have a bunch of Rings by the time you clear Casinopolis, not a single one will be added to your collection. This also applies to Tails and Knuckles when you play the stage as them. It's like the Rings belong to Casinopolis and you're not allowed to take them with you.
@@TTastic-pb5nt Though to be fair, sonic at this most powerful could probably technically could out run the IRS. The thing about Sonic though is that normally sonic is kinda cocky and not as cautious of his surrounding as he should be. All sonic would really have to do outrun the IRS would be to teleport to another planet with a gold ring. At least if we are going by the logic of the sonic movie. To my knowledge sonic is the only one in that movie with gold rings. Course I get the point of the video.
Those gold rings are a gold alloy, they aren't actually worth gold. I forget why I know that they're an alloy, but I'm sure someone smarter could tell you while I jog my memory.
Super Mario's life isn't that different. He finds coins floating in the air 😂 but then having a relationship with the Kingdoms ruler probably helps with that 😂
I love how this channel brings up oddities that no one ever thinks about. I remember my first time playing City Escape and wondering why Sonic was smashing through civilian cars and how that's never brought up.
I'm still waiting for an explanation on why the world is built in a way that makes a lot of things completely inaccessible for anyone who isn't fast enough to run up a wall.
The developers took a trip to San Francisco and they hated the traffic so they made that first level as a sort of exercise to let off steam evidently lol
Good point! It's something I never really thought about either. Sure, he's framed by Shadow, but really the sheer amount of injury and possible manslaughter is plenty of reason to put him away!😁
My headcanon: in the "canon" version of that stage, Sonic just barely avoids slamming into cars at all, making somehow almost TAS-tier turns not because he cares, because he's just naturally that fast. That leaves the GUN truck as the main culprit for most of the vehicular manslaughter, and we know GUN is exempt from those as long as it helps them catch a supposed worse criminal (even assuming Sonic did somehow manage not to hit anyone; he was still being framed, remember?).
They are powerful... except against the rich. Technically there's more money in going after rich citizens who casually cheat their taxes and even write it so it's actually the IRS who owes them money. Realistically, doing that will cost much more than it's worth and it's easier to squeeze the poor out of every penny they own. Not calling this excusable btw, just an explanation on the IRS's "power" and likely any other government with a similar system. Yay capitalism.
Not really, if they try to put him behind bars he'll just materialize outside the moment something cool happens. How else does he get all of those awesome shots from different angles in real-time?
Literally had both types walk in my office. One dude was entirely under the table pay, and he didn’t exactly track the precise cash amounts, only giving a rough estimate of the monthly income. I went with the higher number and provided the appropriate C.Y.A. in the due diligence section. Second side was a 1099NEC independent contractor who needed to write 1099NEC’s for his own independent contractors (contractorception, clearly) almost a month after he was supposed to do that. Turned out he did not book nearly a long enough slot, and this was my first year handling this situation. Dude decided procrastination on his end constituted urgency on mine, so I sent him to a sister office that had a more experienced professional available only to discover only certain offices even have the software to write 1099NEC’s for subcontractors. Also, it was still only an hours slot, because that was the only slot available within a certain range “. To this day, I still wonder how that dude’s situation panned out.
Untill that money enters a bank account. Banks are required to report money coming in over a certain amount to the irs then the irs will be asking where this additional income is coming from. Trust me lots of men in suits sitting around a very large table have figured out a way to fuck you over in just about every way imaginable you will not beat Uncle Sam
Makes you realize how lucky some of us are to live in a country where your tax payment is calculated by state workers and directly deducted from your bank account. Zero worries, zero struggles.
The main reason taxes in the US stay complicated is that HR Block and TurboTax lobby against making it easier. There's an Adam Ruins Everything video about it
Several questions: Do obviously magical gold rings on the ground count as taxable income? I'd think they'd technically count as treasure, and would instead have to deal with whatever laws there are about treasure hunting. As for the rest, Sonic has no other taxable income that we know of, and if he doesn't make enough money I think he doesn't have to do taxes. Tails, meanwhile, likely does have to do them, since he somehow owns a house and almost certainly has to have some kind of income to maintain the property and his inventions.
Finding treasure with a significant monetary value counts as "income via lost or abandoned property" and you have to pay tax equal to its market share value the year you take possession of it. There was a news story about a California couple that found $10 million in 19th-century gold coins in 2013 that had to pay nearly 47% of its value in taxes
I think you're technically supposed to report treasure but there's no way for the IRS to know exactly how much you found. TLDR Sonic could just report he only got 10 and there would be no way for the irs to know any different
@通りすがりの仮面ライダー Their mistake was letting that get on the news. The IRS would never have known or at least they wouldn't know how much they found. If you find a chest of gold don't tell anyone
i think there is a loophole where if youre a hedghog you dont have to report rings that didnt come in the form of a check or direct deposit which is how he's been sliding thru the cracks over the decades.
Sonic doesn't have jack on Mario's tax method. He's legally exempt as every time he acrews 100 coins, it magically transforms into an extra life mushroom he eats. No paper trail, and he never has to pay a dime to the irs as he's never held a large enough accumulation of wealth to qualify as income. Meanwhile he gets to crash with the princess and his brother's mansions.
I'm 16 and I just learned what 1099 forms are also that there's both federal AND state tax and that you can do your taxes from the beginning all the way till the end of the year I don't understand taxes I'm probably just gonna pull a sonic
Man the US tax system is so horrifying. I recently had to start doing self assessments here and whilst it's annoying, at least half of the info I needed was already provided by customs and revenue. Edit: btw, before this year, never had to do a self assessment - my employer just paid the required tax and all was well. This is the normal way for mosf employees in the UK
Employees in the US are subject to payroll tax, which is taken out in advance by their employers. But they overpay, so we have to file for tax returns to reclaim what we can of our money.
You need to file your taxes so the IRS knows how much money you made, also the IRS already knows how much money you made and are just screwing with you.
@@dm121984 Unless you're rich in which case, feel free to cheat on your taxes. Hell if you're rich enough you can openly admit you cheated on your taxes and dare the IRS to do something about it (they won't).
Apparently we have the lobbyists in Congress to thank. After all, if our tax system was as simple as most of the rest of the world, TurboTax would be put out of business.
I think you mean "as a kid who doesn't pay taxes yet", cause, well, taxes are pretty much the same in every country (even though most don't have this state/federal BS).
@@Baguenaudeur Er, no actually. Other countries don't do income tax like America. It varies from place to place, but usually either it works like grocery tax (and you might still get a return) or the goverment just tallies it up and you confirm they did it all right, write in a small correction if needed. It is very simple and easy. No need for a tax season or so many silly forms.
IRS: Tell us how much you made and we'll tax you accordingly. Also IRS: We already know how much you made, that's why you're going to jail for getting it wrong.
2:30 I like how Sonic is thinking about other people other then just himself, as this statement points out. I like this script choice and character personality, even if it has something to do with the IRS
The funny thing is that the IRS actually requires you to report all taxable income, including illegal activities. So Tails is actually wrong here. If you don't report illegal activities on your tax returns, you'll be charged with tax fraud if the IRS finds out. Not to mention, the FBI will probably want a word with you either way. So yeah, don't do illegal things.
The little things like Tails' falling reaction to Sonic opening the door coming a second later than it should is what gives these memes that pure Adventure charm. It's genuinely hilarious.
@2:42 I like how the IRS used the Egg Carrier's jail cells to put in both Sonic *_and_* Eggman. ...Oh, and Big too. Probably for reasons I've seen too much shit online to be able to imagine but *_really_* don't want to.
@@khora3845 Yeah, I mean, the government has nothing to gain keeping the process so tedious. A lot of the time, when you're filling out tax forms, you're telling the government nothing they don't already know, or couldn't easily find out on their own. In fact, the government could probably just send you a bill every year and be done with it, in most cases.
@@dragonslair951167 Yup. In a sensible world, all you'd need to do is send in the things you can claim a refund for, and boom, you're done. But tax prep companies make a lot of money "simplifying" your taxes for you, and wanna keep it that way. :(
