Sonic Heroes (Japanese) - Last Story - Cutscenes + In-Game Dialogue 

there have already been MULTIPLE videos debunking this

Does "roboticizing" even exist within the games' canon the same way it does in the SatAM/Archie canon? So far as I can recall, the games' Eggman never outright transformed living creatures into a mechanical version, rather he always just put small animals into larger robot bodies in order to power them.

I've heard MANY lines in the Sonic franchise that I immediately thought "This is so nonsensical that it must have been due to incompetent translation" after hearing them.

Kirbysmith64 Not at all.

Yes. All he did was harvest electricity directly from the animal's nervous system, providing near infinite power so long as the animal was kept fed, hydrated and healthy. Granted being trapped in a cramped metal shell is not healthy but still. He would only have to replace the power source whenever the animal died. Even then, later games like Heroes, Shadow and New Sonic show that he must have switched to GUN's Chaos Drives created by his grandfather as they proved more efficient, which is why Omega does not have an animal whereas Gamma and the rest of the early E series did. Bottom line: You CANNOT turn an organic living thing into a robot AT ALL. The best you can do is either turn them into a cyborg and then enslave the cyborg, or copy their brain into a computer and install that into a robot instead, otherwise as an android or a Marathon/Halo style smart AI. You can't convert their flesh to metal and plastic directly without the use of nanites and even then if you used nanites, the host would likely die anyway and their brain "construct" would be lost.

That was the point though Eggman took away his will to do anything like this ever again

Metal is the only AI I can asure has mental (?) problems.

Metal Sonic can't speak in base form, he speaks in Neo form or higher Also read the IDW comics the first arc is Metal being a badass

@@Eman02kG Not prefectly, because of Sonic Rivals 2. So, indeed, Metal's self awareness is being deliveratelly ignored for the games stories. Sometimes I fell like I was the only one who played that crap.

He has got more of a personality in recent years. I don’t think he needs a voice sonic mania, CD, an the comics show he can do find without it.

That's kind of interesting He did a decent job playing metal sonic tho

He's mostly known for mentors, serious figures or fun characters, Metal is not what I usually expect from Kanemaru.

XD

U talkin Dragonball Z dude? (SSJ3 Goku!)

***** Point still stands, though. And with me being Mexican, I'd have a long conversation with my grandparents on the phone.

Yeah, it's so epic, I always fangirl at this part.

One wonders why transformations and calling your attacks are never interrupted in Japanese media. I'd like it if a Japanese writer subverted that tradition sometime in either a game, a manga or an anime: the baddy tries to evolve into a perfect, ultra or jogress form, but the hero blasts them with a BFG 9000 while they are in the middle of transforming and they end up like Dr Brundle in The Fly. Or they yell their attack name as they start it but get cut short and fail the attack because the hero gets them first while they are off guard. When the bad guy tries to do the same to them, they find that they can't and the trope plays straight only for the hero, explained by the hero using Chaos Control or something similar to stop or slow down time for everything but him, so he can take as long as he wants to show off his attacks while the baddy eats shit. When he stops using his time stop such as when he gets really angered and decides not to play around, his attacks and transformations are instantaneous, so the bad guy can't hope to interrupt them.

I don’t know. I think Neo Metal Sonic sounds more menacing in the English version.

Jun'ichi Kanemaru also voiced Metal Sonic, not just Sonic.

It made me think that it was recorded in English first given the fact they kept Ryan's roars from the English voice recordings in the Japanese version.

I think in english metal sats NOOOOO!

There's a lot of debate as to whether or not Tails and Knuckles did go Super here (retconning Tails's need for Super Emeralds and re-envisioning their glow from the 2D games to an aura here), or if they were just all being supported by Sonic alone. This may just be me here, but I think the Japanese dialogue makes it a lot less ambiguous and suggests that, yes, all three of them do go super (in particular, Shadow uses "omae-tachi", a collective second-person term, when talking about buying time for them).

DarkSonic180 It's been a few years. Maybe he's old enough to not need them.

Viúvo da SEGA Most definitely. Super Knuckles at least needs a revamping.

YamatoFukkatsu Clearly they haven't gone super themselves. They seem to have little to no control of their flight, more like they were being lugged around.

@@YamatoFukkatsuA little late but yeah I see your point. However I think the Super forms should be exclusive to some characters cause it may cheapen the Emeralds and Chaos Energy itself if everyone could use them.

It becomes a bit (but not much) less cheesy when you realize that Sonic was most likely mocking Metal for his message (thought to be sent by Eggman) at the start of the game in which he himself mockingly called them "Sonic Heroes".

Red Black Ah...that actually makes a lot of sense. ...the English bit at the end is still weird.

@@redblack8766 oh wow never thought of it that way

BRUH Poor Metal, he ruined the dramatic speech

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“It’s been a long tome. My trap!” Lol😆

Sayaka and Yoko made them sound so cute Such a adorable bunny and bee

@@cindycepeda-tc5bq Indeed. 😊

Sonic turned British for a moment

Sonotori datto.

Hentai means pervert

@@superfighter064 Hentai can mean "transformation" as well

@@skullplasma0221 pretty sure that’s “Henshin”

@@superfighter064 So I guess Japanese hentai is named after its target audience

「忌まわしき分身」 ("Imawashiki bunshin"), which directly translates to "abominable offshoot/other self." "My loathsome/repugnant doppelgänger" can work; even recycling "My loathsome copy" can work. However, I find that those words don't really quite match strongly with the overall context of Sonic and Metal Sonic's conversation. Indeed, Metal Sonic really went overboard here to achieve his goal to surpass and destroy his template once and for all. However, with that, he also seeks to prove that, created as a robot, he is the true, perhaps "perfected" Sonic, even if it requires "degrading" into this horrifying mechanical monster. Hence, I went with "My imperfect self."

"My imperfect self" makes much more sense

SUCKAAAAAAAA!

You're welcome. Who knows…?

blackblur7 are you still alive? your channel has been dead for 5 months now you know.

I hope that Sonic Adventure gets translated too. I just watched the Egg Hornet cutscene in the Japanese version and a lot of the lines sound completely different there. Sonic says "Dr. Eggman" instead of "No way Tails!" for one example.

I'd love that so much!

Not to toot my own horn here but since posting that comment I got an english subbed run of the original JP SA1 up if you want to see it.

Damn right. The original Sonic X is why I started watching Japanese television subbed now, with Hellsing being the only one I'll also watch dubbed, because the Hellsing and Hellsing Ultimate dubs are not shit like 99% of all other english dubs are. Shadow the Hedgehog is also good in english too, compared to other games in the series. Hammy at times, yes. But not bad. I even started learned Japanese because of the original voice acting in those games Digimon, and I made a Japanese friend from my studies too. I only understand kana and I'm currently revising what I've learned so far, so I still need subs for the time being.

I prefer the japanese voice acting over the english voice acting of this game too. Despite this game's weak writing & plot (in my opinion), the japanese voice acting was more tolerable.

@@lionocyborg6030 I prefer subs over dubs mainly because the lip syncing looks off in dubs.

We shall see…

I don't think I've ever seen the line since I know how to fly quickly through the final boss, haha. However, from playing off and listening to the exact audio file from the disc with the clip, the lines go like this: In Japanese:「奴の投げてくる戦艦は、力まかせに砕くしかないぜ。 ナックルズ！　腕力は自慢なんだろう！　ぶつからなしやれ！」 Romanized (Romaji): ("Yatsu no nagetekuru senkan wa, chikara makase ni kudaku shikanai ze. Knuckles! Wanryoku wa jiman nandarou! Butsukaranashi yare!") A direct translation in English (without Vector's mannerisms): "Those battleships he's throwing at you need lots of power to smash. Knuckles! Show off your power! Destroy those battleships!" How I might translate the line in English (with Vector's mannerisms): "Those battleships he's throwin' call for some serious smashin'. Knuckles! Time to show 'im what'cha got! Smash 'em to pieces!" You're welcome.

blackblur7 Thank you very kindly!

i would take the japanese dub over the english one in ANY sonic game

jeff blacklight That's called being a total weaboo,there are a lot of games and anime that sound way better in other languages like English compared to their JP/original versions.

FP Berserk Your comment and the word w******* you use is called being a total racist and you've been flagged for it.

Lion O Cyborg Weeaboo is not a racist word you fucktard. It means someone who isn't Japanese who invests all of their time into Japanese material and culture. So you flagged them for nothing.

Mousy Saint the Japanese version is better you dumbfuck!

Mega Sonic Because they are Sonic Heroes. Shadow doesn't qualify.

Mega Sonic the shadow in this sonic heroes is a fake, he's a robot, according to sega. the real shadow is in the shadow the hedgehog game, that's why the team dark ending shows that rouge and omega are in a room full of replicas of shadow, showing that the shadow they've been working with in sonic heroes is a fake

He is the real one, the androids use missiles as Chaos Spear, but Shadow actually uses a real Chaos Spear and he can perform a Chaos Blast.

Also, if you spend 9 minutes in the final boss in Shadow the Hedgehog, Eggman will tell Shadow he is the real one

The shadow in Sonic Heroes is the real shadow and after the events of Sonic Heroes, Shadow the hedgehog game.

basically a jojo reference lol. so knuckles is part of the joestar bloodline?

@@Hypersonicflash Just saying basic things in Japanese isn't a JoJo reference... Like that is a very common thing to say in the language.

@@Squishito ik i just wanna to joke bout it. im sry

You gat dis Sonic!

Well, Jun'ichi Kanemaru also voiced Metal Sonic, not just Sonic.

Yep

R The english version is not superior dude

But... But he's literally always been a comedic villain. He usually goes harder than his goofy design would imply, sure, but... He's... he's themed after EGGS, for crying out loud!

@@MasterMygrane l mean he has been turned down in terms of agressivity and insanity

@@MasterMygrane l mean in Sonic adventure 1 and 2 and in the génesis games eggman was seen as agressive and insane villain

​@@sebastianhernandezvazquez4922 eggman became a joke after 06, even in a sillier game like riders he still was a good villain.

​@@justinarzola4584 what are you talking starting in this game eggman became joke