Sonic Obscurities Iceberg Explained 

Ok, so, looking back, almost two years later, yeah, this video could've been a lot better. Number 1. I probably shouldn't've done the entire video's audio in one hour-long take, just sapped all my energy for some reason. Number 2. Not explaining why I didn't like Sonic R's soundtrack was a bad idea in hindsight, my main issue has always been the lyrics, and I never really thought it fit the concept of a "sonic racing game". Number 3. I put in the jump scares under the assumption that people wouldn't be watching in full volume, and were actually watching instead of just listening, that's my bad for putting them in, trust me, it'll never happen again. Number 4. I did get some info wrong, mainly because I didn't spend as much time as I should have with researching some subjects. All in all, if I ever do something like this again, which isn't very likely, I'll keep a lot of this in mind. I really want to make stuff again, but I've just been dragging my feet on it.

I love Sonic R's soundtrack!

can't believe you'd say that about sonic r, the soundtrack is unironically fire 😡😡😡

at this point naming a game "sonic extreme" is basically asking to get canceled.

The best parts about Sonic R are the character models and the ost.

Horrifying fact to point out: given the legal precedent of the Ken Penders case making his near-fanfiction based on an existing property his property, Sonichu could also legally be considered a fully original character by the American courts.

"sonic r's soundtrack sucks" respect instantly lost

“I’m not gonna waste your time explaining what an iceberg video is” *proceeds to explain what an iceberg video is*

The Anti-piracy measure in SA2 doesn't kill the player on every level, but only on the final level of the game - Cannon's Core. This was made so that the player couldn't see the true ending of the game (the footage shown was correct but the details weren't). (Source: Did You Know Gaming? on RU-vid; I don't remember which video) From what I know the soundtrack of Sonic CD in US was replaced due to it sounding "too 90's". Apparently the team working on CD researched popular music styles in USA and from what information they gathered they made the music fit the likes of western audience. After the game was presented, Sega of America decided they were tired of the 90's music style and simply changed it. The Past tracks were left unchanged as there wasn't enough time to mess with the hardware's PCM (the entire US OST was composed in only 7 weeks!). (Source: The Making of Sonic CD by strafefox on RU-vid)

Dude, I love Sonic R's soundtrack. Diamond in the Sky is one of my go to's.

This is the best iceberg in the sense the obscurity actually gets more and more obscure unlike some icebergs where they get creepier and creepier. Also your voice is very good for icebergs and things like icebergs. Congrats and I wish for you to get more views

I think sonic r only saving grace is it’s music lol

34:52 This is the most wholesome thing I've seen. I WANT MORE

Sonic R has a great soundtrack 😡😩

Finally an iceberg with information I haven't heard a million times! Great video.

Great video! Definitely one of the better Sonic iceberg videos on RU-vid in both content and overall editing quality. Also, I believe "Sonic movie pitches" is referring to scrapped plots for the Sonic movie that the writers Josh Miller and Pat Casey have discussed on podcasts and during interviews. The movie was planned to be PG-13 for quite a while and one of the old concepts we know about is where Sonic would actually be a wanted interstellar criminal who stole one of the Chaos Emeralds, upon crash landing on earth he would lie the humans who found him by saying that where he came from he was a hero.

It was honestly pretty cool seeing one of my suggestions for the Sonic archive twitter account was featured in this iceberg and then this video pretty good video Great job on it

34:14 i didn't have enough time to lower my volume and i got greated by tails screaming lol

In this world there are two types of people,people who think Sonic R’s soundtrack is good and people who are wrong.

Nice video, although some details are a little off, but maybe it was because of the lack of findings. So, for anyone that's wondering, at 22:00 the "Sonic Movie Pitches" are referring to the few instances in which people tried to pitch Sega ideas and scripts for various Sonic movies. For example there was the Sonic Armageddon pitch by Ken Penders(yeah that Ken Penders, the Archie weird guy) and one which was trying to be a live action movie that will take Sonic into the real world to interact with a kid to save the world and such, I think there was another one before it in the 90s but I don't remember the details of that one. The images you show are not pitches to Sega rather than the first promotional material when Sega worked with Sony(first promotional poster you showed) and the second was the one of the "final" promotional art for the Paramount movie, none of the images you show actually reflect a pitch

Underrated. Keep up the great work!

the second i heard that sonic r ost slander i came to the comments and am so glad other people had the same thoughts

I loved this iceberg, tons of new info!

You sound like your soul progressively being drained throughout the video, but still great work & I’m now subscribed!

Wow, an Iceberg where I actually learn something new just at the first layer. Nice! Have a like!

There is some good news about the Sonic OVA soundtrack. Some fans managed to get the full version of "Look Alike," which had been lost for a long time.

Holy crap you scared me with the minor jumpscare and the sonic movie older design

God, the fact that SEGA sent a mascot to fucking PANCRASE of all wrestling companies is amazing in itself.

Please make a part 2 that was one of the best sonic iceberg videos :)

Only clicked into the vid because the "IT GOES DEEP" text wasn't in the thumbnail

33:06 the legendary lemmings timestamp 33:43 batman taking a big dump

Dude, im only 6 mins in and your video editing and presentation skills are top notch! If I may speculate as to why the Sonic CD soundtrack was changed for the US, I believe this was due to the association with Michael Jackson, as the soundtrack was heavily New Jack Swing (I know he wasnt involved with the soundtrack but it was around 1993 wasn't it?). Sonic R does not suck though :)

The trans flag wasn't even made until 3 years later to for certain its a coincidence

25:29 I unironically read "Sonic live in society". Had to pause to video and read it again to notice what was actually written

>"None of these are jokes and are to be taken seriously" >Upbeat SA1 music starts >"Genocide Ci-"

YOO MY MAN YOU DESERVE MORE SUBS THEN THIS YOU EARNED A SUB DUDE

21:59 Might be referring to the various movie pitches for the scrapped sonic movie that was supposed to tie in with sonic xtreme. 26:10 Original Level Layout: Carnival Night (Night), Flying Battery (Night), Ice Cap (Night and with Act 1 starting with busted door of FBZ), Launch Base (Morning/Sunrise).

great vid!!!!

i really enjoyed this video!! there was a bunch of stuff i didn't know in here! i love listening to these kinds of videos while i work! the only thing is that because i'm listening, i don't see any visual warnings for loud noises.. if at all possible, a verbal warning next time would be awesome!! nonetheless, thanks for the vid! (also sonic r's soundtrack slaps smh)

17:15 Underated AS FUCK game. I played it on Wii, and it still is one of my favorite sonic games

Sonic R's soundtrack is fire, I had to relisten to that part because I thought I misheard you lmao

11:25 "この先は生かさないぞー” essentially, "beyond this point, you wont survive" "wahh, alligators!" "TAILS!"

this guy NEEDS more subs!

The japanese sonic cd soundtrack sampled george Clinton. They paid a college professor for his music to use as the u.s.a. soundtrack to avoid a legal battle

Tbh The super sonic racing track is FIRE!

Finally a good Sonic iceberg

Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog Haters gonna hate, but Sonic Underground is really good

Fun Fact! The Machine's assets from Sonic Spinball were actually the Cyber City assets before being repurposed for Sonic Spinball.

4:38 I believe this image of Tails from CD is supposed to be a reference of the Sonic manga, which marks the first appearance of Amy Rose and Charmy before any of the Sonic games.

Finally a sonic iceberg with information i dont know

The "See you next game" Was actually a Continuity nod for how it ends up playing out in the games timeline It's (According to the new Sonic Origins compilation) Sonic 1 -> Sonic CD -> Sonic 2

Ive been on the sonic spinball ride during and after the sega partnership and though most of the theming is gone one picture of eggman can still be found

love the video !!

26:12 forgot to mention that that winter stage level was ROCK WORLD ZONE FROM SONIC 2 BETA

18:45 No, that's wrong! Sonic R's soundtrack is objectively some 90s fire.

26:10 unfortunately that was not the early concept art of Ice Cap Zone, I mean it does look like a winter stage, but this winter level concept art was literally one of the deleted levels from Sonic 2, originally Sonic 2 was meant to have a time travel feature similar of how Sonic CD does.

This guy just said sonic r music track sucked boi If you don't get out

Everyone says sonic 3 has never been rereleased, but it was apart of the classic sonic 6 pack of games for the ds, where not only did we have sonic 3 but also sonic 3 and knuckles

The pictures for treasure tails were mock-ups, by the way

Could have _really_ gone without the jumpscares.

I'm pretty sure the sonic pitches part was referring to the history of the sonic movie, which has been trying to find a studio to develop a movie for sonic since 2013 I think, maybe in 2014 or earlier

I always thought seeing sonic at disney was a fever dream I had. Didnt know it was real until this video

8:18 *Sad Sonic Classic Collection noises*

no one talks about the Badniks (history, interesting facts, Easter eggs, etc).

Something obscure I never see on these icebergs is that Icecap Zone's music is a real song, Hard times - The jetzons. It's a banger!

As A Small RU-vidr I Have To Say You Deserve More Subs

BRO THE PICTURES FOR TREASURE TAILS WERE PUT ON THE INTERNET RIGHT ON MY BIRTHDAY

Great video! I actually planned on making a video on this iceberg myself but you beat me to the punch! Some further information/corrections on some entries. No disrespect intended at all, however I will not tolerate any Sonic R OST slander. Tokyo Toy Show: Yuki Naka said in a 2011 interview with GamesRadar that this prototype was considered to be included with Sonic Mega Collection, but Sega themselves couldn’t find it in their archives. info.sonicretro.org/Yuji_Naka_interview_by_Games_Radar_(June_27,_2011) Resaurus Sonic Figures Wave 3: As these figures were based on SA2, they included figures of Rouge and Shadow. In a press release for the set, they revealed Rouge and Shadow’s names before they were officially revealed by Sega, which is probably the main reason this topic is on the on the iceberg. R2: R2 briefly appears in the End Credits cutscene of Sonic CD, of course between the Palmtree Panic and Collision Chaos sections. Christian Whitehead (Lead Engineer on the Sonic CD Retro Engine remake) said in a post on Sonic Retro that the animation for the cutscenes began very early in development, before R2 was scrapped. Lost Archie Issues: I guess you could consider the early versions of the Chaotix Quest Arc from Sonic Universe in there, which had to be rewritten during the publication due to the outcome of the Ken Penders' lawsuit. There also a ton of Sonic Universe issues revealed before the Archie stopped publishing Sonic, as well as issues from their ‘Archives’ compilation series. Sonic 1 Nick Arcade prototype: drx says the Sonic 1 prototype leaked earlier this year was once owned by a British gaming magazine from the 90s. Sonic OVA OST: While there was no official release of the OVA’s soundtrack, a ton of demo tracks were leaked in September of last year. As well as tracks from the final movie, there also some unused tracks and a full version of Look-a-Like. ru-vid.com/group/PLbGNUtFOh-FjQKLgGsvWCK9e75MSQRG05 Sonic movie pitches: I think this was supposed to refer to pitches for other Sonic movies, like Sonic Wonders of the World and Sonic Armageddon, conceptualised by Ken Penders. You can find out more from this excellent video by PatMac. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w23ZI3uGv9w.html AoStH pilot: While the leaked version of the pilot is a rough cut (as shown by the incomplete audio and time code), some of its finished footage was reused. The scene that plays during the end credits of the show is taken from the pilot, Scratch and Grounder are watching a clip from the pilot in the episode ‘Untouchable Sonic’ and clips were used in an ad for Fox 39 Kids Club and in a promotional video for Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood.

gotta admit I'm a sucker for the sonic R soundtrack... though those beta songs for R sound.... weirdly porny? great video dude!

22:00 correction: this entry is refferring to the various failed movie pitches done before the 2020 sonic movie. two examples include sonic armageddon and sonic wonders of the world

im pretty sure the sonic 1 prototype wasn't stolen i think sega just lost it i mean it 1990 im pretty sure no one would care about what a sonic is to actually steal it like it sonic 2

30:56 But it damn well can happen with a damaged copy of the Dreamcast game on Dreamcast. Personal experience.

Fun fact the D.A garden theme from sonic cd is R2’s present theme and the name for R2 is dubious depths or ridicule root

33:57 Cinemacon sonic looks like me and the boys after the fith pack of shredded cheddar cheese in 2:30 am

Dude sonic r's soundtrack is awesome

18:42 the bank is coming to repossess your organs

Juice wrld song called keep up is actually just his unused lines in the song Speed me up which was used in the final movie , the version with his verses in speed me up can be found on RU-vid

ITS A SPOOKY MONTH!!! he just did the spooky month dance

2:27 This is a question with three different answers from three completely different people

“Sonic R soundtrack sucks” Some opinions can not be forgiven…

Was giving a huge thumbs up to the video, but the Sonic R OST diss made me regret that

I wonder what happened to the statue in front of the sonic spinball ride

movie pitches refer to the many movie pitches that were done before the 2020 movie was done. one was by ken penders himself. google sonic armageddon for info on that one. lsmark made a vid on the 3 pitches

That huge scare of the sonic movie sonic shared the hedgehog out of me

18:42 "Sonic R's soundtrack sucks" Disliked and moved on. Sonic R had some fucking BANGERS. Living in the city? Fire. Can you feel the sunshine? BANGER Work it out? BANGER

1:40 this stupid image gives me anxiety. sonic is either dying or going backward, this is so unsatisfying

There were like 2 or 3 movie pitches for a sonic movie, one of them was made in 1995 which did its own thing, another movie pitch which was base on the Archie comics, and there were plans to make 2 more parts for sonic ova, recommend watching this video from pat mac ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w23ZI3uGv9w.html )

I guess cyber city is the reason metropolis 3 is a different zone in level select

I feel like you should’ve said on the pin ball section that that was the first time Roger Craig smith voice acted Sonic

The movie sonic jumpscare next to the tails jumpscare fucked me up cus I was on the shower and couldn’t see the warnings

2:25... I can answer this, with the medium of FOOD! First sonic series: A wonderful tasteing meal the cafe down the road from you cooked up pretty damn quick. SATAM: amazing 3 course meal unfortunately missing it's third corse prepared for you in 5 minutes flat.... UNDERGROUND: Fast food trash that took WAY LONGER than it should have done to be brought out to you and leaves you feeling empty, hollow, and demanding something else.

hot take on the sonic r soundtrack

13:30 the sonic cd issue (#290) was actually printed

12:33 It wasn't developed in the December prototype, it wasn't cut by then

Me and my homies on our way to pick up hoes on da sonic 06 bus

Don’t know if you know this (I’m sure you’ve got it at least once) but the last Archie Sonic comic published was the third in the classic Sonic genesis series, the one based on cd. Still sucks they didn’t finish it still.

2:30 *TRIPLETS BORN, THE THRONE AWAITS*

13:35 the third one (the sonic CD comic) did come out and was the last comic. The sonic 3 and knuckles issue had its art put online but there’s no speech or colouring the comic after that one had some of its pages released and I don’t think the rest of the lost issue had there pages put online public. Sonic universe (the comic that ran with the main comic) last issue was rapping up a story about the Chaotix so at least they didn’t leave the story on a cliffhanger. The same can’t be said for sonic mega drive a three part mini series that never had the final part released which is a shame as it was really good. And it’s also a shame about the other unreleased comics as some of them looked REALLY GOOD. There was one about sonic and honey on a movie set. Bunny was gonna go to blaze dimension and there was this thing called null that look like mephiles one exploring how sonic met mighty as ray. I wish we could have seen these last story’s released.

Cool

4:06 nah that was the Simon Wai proto. It’s assumed Sega just lost it