Small correction: Maria didn't succumb to her illness. She was shot in front of Shadow by G.U.N when she ejected Shadow's escape pod from the colony. That's why he hates humanity.
@@appleando752they better not, I want children to be just as untrusting of government entities as I am. Even if they have a kickass name like G.U.N. It’s literally the most American government entity name that isn’t real 🇺🇸.
@@keegantripp1245 If she succumbed to illness then having revenge against humanity doesn't make sense, even if Gerald do reprogram it, its just stupid from plot standpoint. However, what if the soldier tried to shoot Shadow but Maria jumped in front and took the hit to save him. While on her dying breath, she send Shadow safety down to earth while promise him to protect earth and its inhabitant. The Soldier did regret killing a innocent minor by accident.
If Metal does appear, I would like to see a callback to the first movie in the fight against Sonic and Metal where Sonic quickly runs circles around Metal, building mass amounts of energy, and then abruptly stopping only to redirect the massive electrical blast right at Metal, overloading his systems. It would be a nice callback to the first movie where Sonic couldn't control his emotions on the Baseball Field, but now he's in complete control over his powers. That would be my dream moment in the movie.
In the worse of the cases he would become stronger and everyone will die, metal in the games uses electric power already and classic can use an... Almost semi super form (because he is worse at using it than Tails) so I don't think he can be overloaded that easily
I have a feeling that putting shadow and metal sonic in the same movie would be difficult without having one ruin the other's screen time. the movies are a chance for these characters to be revived to their full potential. metal sonic needs another chance to pose a real threat to sonic. and shadow needs to be more than just a regular side character. it's possible to pull off having both of these characters in their full potential in the same movie, just difficult.
@@martingiacomazzi3-lIlIR5854 nah after shadow we gotta have something original, something that's new for the movie. the story of sonic adventure 2 has already been told.
Honestly, since Rouge and Shadow are already being introduced (perhaps even Amy), introducing Metal would be too much for one movie. What I wish to happen is Metal being teased in a post-credit scene, revealing a blueprint for a robotic doppelganger based on both Sonic and Shadow. Then, the fourth movie could be a triple adaptation of Sonic CD, Sonic Heroes and Sonic '06, introducing Silver coming from a future dominated by Metal Overlord, trying to destroy the OG Sonic. A similar plot to Terminator would be great, and if Amy at this point hasn't been introduced yet, that would be the perfect time, since Sonic CD was her first debut and she has a major impact in Silver's storyline in '06.
@@Moonbovine It's a weird order for character appearances. But if they're going to follow the plot of SA2 in any capacity Rouge is more important to that storyline than Amy. It makes sense to introduce her and Shadow in the same film. I love Shadow but a timeline closer to the games should have the third movie feature Amy and Metal Sonic and Shadow and Rouge arrive in the 4th one.
I can't wait for the third movie, but I'm worried about there not being Dr Robotnik/ Jim Carrey in the movie, he definitely made the movies way more enjoyable
This film is going to be the big test to see whether or not the characters can carry the movie without Jim Carrey there. It's possible to do in this film because we're getting Shadow, who is of course a heavy artillery character when it comes to gathering crowds. So I don't think we'll have any issues with people being interested in seeing Sonic 3. But for movies after this, it's going to depend on who they bring in. Chaotix would probably help in the comedy relief department. But as far as main storylines go, in order to top this movie, they're going to need something impressive as hell (I can think of a couple things that would probably do the trick, but who knows if we'll see any of them or not; the movies have been giving hints that one of these might be an eventual possibility, but we'll see).
Agreed, no one can play a better robotnik than he can but I'm worried about tails I hope they don't replace the voice actor for him I mean yeah I love tom Holland but colleen o shaughnessy did way better voice acting tails
@@matthewhayes1328 They're not replacing her. She's confirmed to be voicing Tails in the third movie. But if they did replace her at any point (like in a later movie), it would be with Ashleigh Ball, since she's the only other active VA that is voicing iterations of Tails. Now I'm suddenly thinking of other characters the MLP cast could voice. This is jumping ahead and assuming they do more movies after the third one. But might we one day get Andrea Libman voicing a character? I can think of a couple that she would be a good fit for (such as Cream the Rabbit, and also... someone else...). And for that matter, Tara Strong would probably make a good Charmy.
@@rockmanmix6242 Tragic isn't the problem, if she'd just died from the illness, his anger towards humans would feel a little less warranted. Believe me, I get it since I've been through something of the sort recently. I'm not sayin that it's a bad take on the scene, just that they'd have to really sell that it is the fault of the government.
@@VoidTheHedgehog. I know. But i actually meant metal sonic with that name. Fun fact in the fleetway sonic comics, he's also called metallix. And has even a whole legion lead by giant red metal sonic called brotherhood of metallix in said comic.
As a shadow lover I would love to see a alternative ending like what knuckles and sonic had where they began as villian and hero but turned into hero and hero once realizing each-others part of view I would love seeing that relationship with sonic and shadow it would also just feel nice to see a casual shadow lol
Well yeah, that would be cool but I still think Shadow should keep some of his edgyness in addition to being casual. It's one of reasons why he is soo popular after all.
@@annaszuster7594 Shadow can be an ally and still be broody though. That part doesn't have to change. Basically, they just need to do what Dragonball Z did with Piccolo and they'll be good to go.
But thats not an alternative ending. Thats really how Sonic and Knuckles started out. They started as enemies, learned Knux is kinda dumb and easily tricked, and ended things as allies and friends. The only alternative ending that can be for the Sonic Movie 3, is that Shadow doesn't get essentially near eliminated by a fall from Space to Earth. Also making Rouge an ally from the forefront ruins the rivalry between her and Knux, and being the one person, besides Amy who may not get in, that appeals to Shadow's conscious and showed legitimate concern for the Introverted bugger.
@@Prince_Smugarina Ik I’m saying alternative as in it’s most likely not gonna happen in the 3rd movie It’s very not likely so I’m saying alternative as in (hoping this does happen instead of the other)
@@730productionsllc Jim Carrey said he didn't want to act anymore. He officially retired, and said it would literally take a work of god to get him back into acting.
Maria didn't die from illness, she died from a gunshot wound. Also, why not just have Jason Griffith, or anyone else who's ever voiced him in the games/shows do it?
They have got to make this as a Sonic Adventure 2 kind of like a thing. They have to DO THEIR RESEARCH BEFORE they can make it as a movie. Because the last time I checked it wasn't really flawless. They need to find and get all what they need that's super duper cool and very important. But it doesn't have to be "all of them" all of them, they just need to get what's VERY important.
Bryce Papenbrook or Jason Griffith must play Shadow. If Metal Sonic has a actor, i'd love to see Ryan Drummond come back as he aced the role of Neo Metal Sonic in Sonic Heroes. I'd prefer the person who played Rouge before Shadow the Hedgehog or someone who sounds like her as i thought SonicX had her sound older than she actually is. The big problem is that they are skipping Sonic CD, Knuckles Chaotix and Sonic Adventure to do Sonic Adventure 2 as a movie. Another issue is that Hero Side and Dark Side stories are taking place at the same time. This is what made it hard to do on Sonic X. And for those who watch the first episode of SonicX, Route 101 is in Sonic Adventure 2. If you go to scene select for the first film, you will see a scene is called Final Chase. This is the name of the last Dark Side stage in Sonic Adventure 2. Hero Side has Final Rush. The correct ending is in the Dark Side as it leads to the Last Episode. The Hero ending destroys the Eclipse Cannon. This eliminated a lot of the things done in the franchise later. Sonic X barely did this game with 10 or 11 episodes. I feel like a movie is not a good idea.
@@sonicfan2403 I listed some of the game actors. I feel like Jason Griffith and Ian Hanlin did excellent jobs. Ian was his voice in Sonic Prime. I forgot his actor's name in that show. Another option would be Daved Humphrey. 2001-2004(first English actor)
Hollywood is not particularly kind to actual voice actors when it comes to adaptations. Charles Martinet is literally in the Mario movie as Mario's dad, but they still insisted on casting Chris Pratt as Mario and Charlie Day as Luigi instead. I'm not going to get my hopes up that they actually use another OG VA when Tails is literally the only character with his original VA. Hollywood always goes for big name actors. At this point Christian Bale is more likely than OG VA, and that's the preferable option for a big name actor.
@@sonicfan2403 oh my gosh, I checked again and he was the downgrade from Pete Capella!(Silver) How did I think it would be good?! Bring back David Humphrey for this or get Ian Hanlin!
I hope we see chaos in sonic the hedgehog 3 because in the games chaos was the one responsible for wiping out the echidnas maybe he is responsible for the disappearance of both long claw and the echidnas
I doubt Chaos will make an appearance. Possibly in the Knuckles series, but I truly doubt it, as the implications of the second movie don't exactly point to Chaos. However, maybe I didn't catch something there. Feel free to correct me.
I do kind of deeply hope that Jim Carrey returns as a surprise. You know... just to complete a trilogy. Like, I can imagine it would be super cool if Eggman came back as a literal robot version of himself where his consciousness was uploaded to a computer by Agent Stone or something which acted as a kind of backup plan in case things did go wrong. But... this is probably fanfiction at best.
Gotta say, Metal looks terrific in that thumbnail. Like a spiky Megaman X with Terminator eyes - dig it! Did anyone else expect this franchise to see such wild success in film? I didn't! I'm not even a fan, but I can appreciate the work and care that went into it all - and like I always say: you put good in, you get good out. All hail the shrowrunners and directors who are fans of the material they work with, for they truly carry the day!
I still miss John Carry as a successful actor, and I can’t wait to see more throughout the series. Possibly Silver will be at the end of Sonic 3. This is just a guess. But it is possible.
I think you mean Jim Carrey. But yes, Silver is a possibility. The thing is, he could be connected to Shadow's origin this time around, since they're probably going to have to change certain aspects of Project Shadow in order to agree with the setting. They could just have him be the Hedgehog they got DNA from.
2:25 It took a minute but yeah the progression of the movies makes a bit of sense... Sonic 1 was essentially Sonic 1, Sonic 2 was 2, 3, & Knuckles... 3 Is likely jumping straight into adventure... It's kinda following the progression of pretty much the most important games to get a general idea of where the characters come from...
I hope Paramount will make Shadow looks sharper because at this moment he's just re-coloured Sonic. Also I think Metal Sonic shouldn't be part of this movie, he may steal Shadows thunder. If anything he should only act as Eggmans assistant, for now I mean. And I really hope Silver will be announced via post credit scene. He and Blaze doesn't get enough love when it comes to anything outside games. I wish some time in the near future someone will make reboot of "Sonic X" and it would include Silver and Blaze. Their story would be such a cool thing to watch in form of anime, if it was made correctly that is.
I never thought we’d see a movie inspired by a Dreamcast game (SA2) with Jim and Idris acting and voice acting it nearly 20 years later that’s amazing haha
I think people are assuming Rouge the Bat will be as de-sexualized as possible, but I think they are going to cast Megan Thee Stallion and evoke Megan through Rouge.
Wanna see more epic adventuring with action, emotional story element, humor even it’ll be much darker since the games. It’ll be worth the wait next December.
Maria can't die of natural causes or Shadow would have no reason to hate humanity. The whole reason he hated humanity in the original story was because Maria died during a raid on the Ark that GUN performed because they decided to backtrack on the experiments they had requested from Gerald and destroy the Ark and everyone on it to erase all evidence, thus making them directly responsible for her death.
I love Sonic adventure 1 and 2 so I cannot wait to see this unfold if this is their inspiration! And rouge is going to be there as well I mean this just gets even better the more I listen to it if this is really the direction. I know rouge has a thing for knuckles so this is going to be interesting. I wonder who they would cast her? I wonder who's going to cast Shadow that's what I want to know? We just have to wait and see
Just a small specification.. In game: Maria didn’t die from her sickness, Government HUMAN soldiers shot the CHILD in front of Shadow. He didn’t know anyone beyond the ship. His whole world was shattered by humans. Not the full reason Shadow decides to take out humans, but you can see how it would certainly add to it.
It would be cool if metal sonic hijacks Shadow's plans for world destruction once Shadow gets cold feet. Metal could want revenge on the world that destroyed Eggman.
That would make sense because of Eggman and the fact he wants the Ark for himself, also that would be an insult to characters like Shadow or Vergil from DMC since they're characters to get what they want no matter what the circumstances are...
Didn't expect that they were going to go into the post credit scene so little bit of a spoiler there but I don't mind. Shadow is another favorite of mine this just makes me want to watch it even more!
How many times do we have to label every sonic movie video with a fake metal sonic and saying “sonic 3 teaser” before people realize that its a fake image?
I wonder if the movie will show Maria getting shot by the G.U.N. soldier or not. They kinda did in the anime, Sonic X. She didn't die because of her illness. She died because she got shot by the soldier. Maybe they'll change it to be the illness instead to try and be a little less harsh for the kids who watch. But Maria was the one who ran away with Shadow to get to a space pod for safety, but sadly she instead got shot for saving Shadow. The last thing he saw was her dying on the floor, before he was set plummeting to Earth from Space Colony Ark in the space pod.
Who wants Ken penders to give up his claim on Sonic Archie comics so we can have our childhood sonic stories come to life. Make the Freedom Fighters Real!!!!!!!
I know Jim Carry is over 70 years old and should be relaxing after the great carrier he's had, but I genuinely hope he returns as Dr. Robotnik once more, to go out on a high note.
I don't like the idea of Tails being aged up. He's too precious to age up. Also I find it hard to imagine a Sonic movie without Jim Carrey's Dr Robotnik.
If only G.U.N. knew the truth, they wouldn't have killed Maria. Shadow was made from Black Doom's DNA, making G.U.N. think that Gerald Robotnik was betraying humanity, when in reality, he just wanted to save his granddaughter. Plus, Gerald knew that Black Doom would eventually go back on his word so Gerald built the Eclipse Cannon inside the Space Colony to destroy the Black Comet.
I think Colleen will still be in the third movie. She said at Retropalooza last year that she loves playing as tails. However paramount didn’t inform her who was playing knuckles. She was only there at the studio to record her lines and found out the rest of the cast closer to premiere date. Probably same thing here. I think it’s a little crummy but I don’t think they’re changing the voice actor.
I won't lie, I think the third movie needs Jimmy Carrey/Robotik for it to work. Robotik plays a big role in Adventure 2 helping secure the "villain" side and basically offers advice and help to stop the threat. Without him I don't think the movie will hold out as strong. I also think the inclusion of Metal is a little late as it would have been better to establish him in the second movie as a "hidden" detail. Although if they didn't go Metal, I could see Chaos, another fan favorite, kind of working with the Adventure 2 plot. Even though Chaos's creation was due to the emerald, it could possibly work if they tie him in to the "space" related stuff. It would be rewritting him a bit, but again, could work if Metal doesn't make it in. It'll be interesting what happens. Although if Rogue is in the movie, we'll most likely get Amy as well and possibly (although pushing it) a few other sonic characters like Chao, Bigs, ect.
I guess, they just filmed all the scenes with Jim Kerry while working on Sonic 2. Or received his approval for creating virtual Eggman using the footage. Also, Kerry said that he can return to the filming industry if they persuade him, it would be a great movie.
