That's one of your best videos, hilarious conversations between Chris and Jordan, and very complete review overall + good to see the correct settings were used to shoot 30fps!
Pleasantly surprised to see you (a Canadian) wearing a "Stillwater, Oklahoma" tee-shirt, Jordan! I'm from Kansas and attended Kansas State University, but Oklahoma State, in Stillwater, is a fellow Big 12 school. Good job flying solo on this review--stay safe!
The best camera ever made. Thanks guys. I'm a Leica and Fuji shooter, but hats off to Sony. If I was a professional, there is now only one place to go ....
Ahem (3:25), Lossless compression does not throw away *ANY* infomation. For it to be lossless means that you have to be able to recover the original, bit-for-bit. This has been well understood in the computer biz for decades. (e.g. zip compression). A more recent audio comparison would be Apple's lossless audio compression which will shrink the size of a file by a factor of 2-3.
In all seriousness. The real photography news last week wasn't the Sony camera. It was the Fujifilm GFX100S...for $500 less than the Sony A1. Medium format, 100MP, great features with a line up of really good glass. Sony's price point made both the R5 and the GFX100S look really good.
I came to the comments here to find out first if anyone else noticed and two if a cause was determined. It was actually a distracting vibrant purple on my monitor not 'hints of purple'
Great job from Jordan, I really enjoyed the stills :) Also, I am very happy that Chris is getting better, I am really looking forward to seeing you two together again!
The CGI graphics you included to introduce the overheating segment was impressive. Glad to see all the money I spend watching these videos is being well-spent.
Lossless compression doesn’t throw anything away, it uses a lossless compression encoding. Like gzip or lz4 or any of a number of compression formats. One thing I would hope for in a firmware update is “deferred lossless” as an option. Say, go through the uncompressed lossless shots and rewrite them as compressed lossless as a batch operation.
Get well soon Chris 👍 Having said that: Jordan, you did a splendid job covering the photocentric aspects of the camera. Yes, the drumshoot looked cool, but no worries, on every other shot you look cool as well. Overall I love how you both wrap your humor and the special chemistry you have around every of your review episodes. Gotta say: really cool gang of two you are 🙂👌🌈🤘🤘🤘
Same ergonomics, just love it when the finger knuckles rubbing against the lens and pinky hangs out and missing the grip.It must be cold over there , so cold to get orange face.
Chris, it's exciting to see you look much better! I'm glad you're out of the house for the next video! Jordan you look dapper behind your electric drum kit!
Well done, Jordan! Thanks for pulling this one together (and suffering the cold and all). Great video! I especially enjoyed the use of the 135mm GM here. Happy to see Chris looking and feeling much better now, too. Cheers!
Lossless isn't supposed to throw away any data (and I hope it doesn't). The way this works on most cameras is ZIP or a similar algorithm is applied on top of raw sensor data.
Don’t ever change, you guys. You are GOLD! Love watching your videos. Been following you guys since the days of old on another channel that shall not be named… :-)
Normally Jordan's color grading is superb but I am noticing clipping in the skin tones (magentas/blues/aquas/greens) during the brighter scenes in this video (outdoors and at the drumkit). Is this because it is limited to 4.2.0 or maybe Cinetone?
Yeah, for the first 5 minutes, the forehead seems to be constantly changing in the red channel as he talks. Its almost as if they left Auto Exposure on... in a snow scene with a white sky, and the subject is wearing a black jacket. Either not the best setup/settings to show off the color science, or something is seriously wrong with the camera! By about 7 minutes in, when we see the blue sky, it seems to sort itself out. Hopefully that was by switching AE off.
Awesome and entertaining review, as always, guys! Glad you're on the mend already, Chris! 💪 Thanks for all the hard work you do on these (esp. Jordan this time doing a solo production outside in the freezing cold ❄️).
Great review, Jordan! This is why I turn to DpReview first. You've pointed out all the caveats that the other "influence" click-bait algorithm bound youtubers haven't. Great job!
Still has that Sony skin tone(funk), 3:02 outside(too magenta), 11:35 inside(too green). AF tracking for animals and bird’s eye is still noticeably behind the R5 though.
Please when doing the running test give it a bit of a challenge like turning your head to the side or running in and out of frame or running on a bit more of an angle like you would get all the time in actual sports. Or things like having your hand in front of your face briefly or putting your head down. Running towards the camera looking directly at it the whole is actually a pretty weak test.
How you know, a videographer is trying to do a photography review: He thinks, photographers wear headphones while shooting and he constantly talks about MBits regarding filesizes :-D
Jordan great work, hopefully Chris will not loose his job. 1 question: is it normal that in the darker scene of the video I can see pixelization on the left side of the picture (ca. 12:20minutes of the video)? Where does this come from? Have a nice time Best regards Bernd
Waiting for the A7R5 that I'm told will track that chipmunk's eyes while its head is in the ziplock bag! Great content as usual :) Hoping for Chris to feel better soon.
regarding lossless compression : "it finds some smart ways to throw away some information that is not going to be useful at all" --> that would be the philosophy behind "lossy". It's not what lossless compression does. Lossless compression tries to summarize repetitive patterns and map them into a compressed file. On decompression, the map is used to "inflate" the file back. Well, many better definitions exist :D... But nice review, as always ! thanks !
Thanks for that. BTW Lossless compressed Raw doesn't throw anything away, needed or not, it just shrinks repeating info to make the whole thing smaller... when you uncompress the data it's 100% identical to an uncompressed raw. Also were your over-heating times with the option to let it get a lot hotter enabled? As they still default to not enabling that presumably there are some down-sides, any idea what (does it just get really hot)? Oh and have you tested the R5 heating with the new firmware yet or just the R6?
Menu is probably hardware side process, like the way Apples M1 chip has separate hardware h265 side process, and encryption side process built in. Edit: The chips running cameras aren’t general processors like snapdragons or intel chips, they’re more like the chips that runs Bluetooth or the chips in USB cables.
We finally got it confirmed that Chris has been holding Jordan back. You see how much fun Jordan was having and how the production value was just so high. Maybe we just need to see Chris in a new light.
Agree for the in-body pixel shift image, also would love to have an in body HDR stacked image. Next would love to have more dynamic range at least 15 stops or even higher, and a better in body image stabilization. A built in electronic variable ND would be great and finally with the next version would love to have 24 fps lossless compressed raw up to 1 minute or 1440 images, and 4:3 sensor with 4:3 anamorphic video mode
I sold a 30sec clip from my K-1 for 300,- Dollar so it can't be that bad, but in general I actually like that Pentax focuses on photography because that is my profession and the k-1 is an awesome tool for photographers if you wanna do video there are a thousand other options just dedicated for video, personally I don't believe in these jack of all trades devices!
What is going on with the colors in the drum scene. Tones on your face are all over the place. Either badly graded or something went wrong there. You didn't write the settings you shot in during that scene.
Really well carried, Jordan. Congrats! Thinking back on how reluctant you were to get in front of the camera in the early days. And the way you guys laugh off Canadian winter - impressive. As for the camera... as an α7iii shooter, it sure is tempting! Although of course we're also all curious about what the α7iv will bring.
I like a drum set First of all I would like to say that I am drooling about this camera. I sat down to think about it and I realized there is not a single picture shown that I don't think I can take with my current A7RIV or A9. Don't need 8K. Thank you for all the information.
What’s up with the colors? If Jordan doesn’t have an extremely strange makeup (when sitting behind the drums) the colors are still way behind canon & nikon
i thought i was the only one who noticed the purple tinge around his eyes. Looks very very weird. I hope its jordan and not the camera color science lol
Yeah, that looked really terrible, though I think that was a color-grading mistake rather than an issue with the camera’s colors. Didn’t notice the issue in Gerald Undone’s or Kai W’s videos on it, and Gerald said the colors in the Alpha 1 are close to perfect.
@@AndyLSB it requires “almost no grading”. As it stands, it’s more likely that he borked the magentas himself and didn’t notice. Or maybe the screen you’re viewing the video on isn’t calibrated properly, or you might be partially colourblind, etc etc. The default assumption you made can be as easily explained by any number of factors. The fact that he found the colours fit for public release after he himself graded them should cause you to be curious about why they look off to you, whether they look off to people on average, and if he would release badly graded footage. I could care less about the camera as I’m not going to dump that much money into a body for hobby use, but I do think people should try to be better critical thinkers
@@perilthecat Ok first of all do you have a personal issues or something ? If now one says anything about the colors then he might not notice, second of all my monitor IS calibrated and I'm not color blinded which it would be something you don't have to care about and third calm down because that's why people ask questions, to know what happened, that is why I asked what is wrong with the colors.
I always watch these reviews on my TV with an Apple TV. This is the first time there is a problem with white flashes on the tv. When watching on PC everything is fine. TV is at 1080p 50Hz. Other video's of this channel don't have these white flashes.
12:50 some really horrible banding in the background there, where the light falls off towards the edge of the frame. I wonder if it's RU-vid compression causing this or whether it's present in the original file. 200Mbps seems awfully low for 8K.
