Sony a6400 4k Mirrorless vs RED Digital Cinema Camera

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@chesareg8217 3 года назад

The a6400 with color grading just, just blew my mind off, the results Sony can achieve with such a tiny camera is just out of this world.

@vinyl.croatia 4 года назад

I was asking why is quality of video so poor on both cameras. In the end of the video I realised I was watching in 360p

@hughwizzy 3 года назад

I’m clearly clueless. Thought the one on the left was preferable. Great video.

@konkor9940 3 года назад

same :P

@curtisbme 2 года назад

100%. In this youtube video (with all the caveats that entails) the sharpness and the color is much better with the a6400 video. Not sure why he didn't do more subjective color correction to remove the unnatural green haze on the Red image. Softness and unnatural color is certainly a common choice for movie production but not good for youtube comparison showing real world images that we expect to look real and be sharp.

@truthseeker6804 2 года назад

@@curtisbme exactly. i remember when i watched this video a year ago i also prefered the a6400. when you get more into cameras you begin to like unnatural color, because there's more "details" in the highlight and shadows. most people would prefer the a6400 in this video. but camera geeks would prefer the RED camera.

@galaxytraveler5779 2 года назад

Because of the overall clarity. The Red is smoother and not quite as 'bright', but far more accurate colors and lighting.

@TheBamcast 2 года назад

Same lol

@EposVox 4 года назад

Left Sony, Right RED. The colors had it fairly obvious (green-ish) at first, but the lighting really made it clear

@Jonyiii 3 года назад

yep

@SimarjitSingh 4 года назад

It's easy to know which one is the RED because it always has that greenish look to it

@EverythingFilmmaking 4 года назад

Simarjit Singh that green looks nasty

@bobsimpson9228 4 года назад

Could always change the tint to the other side a bit

@tomdchi12 4 года назад

Particularly in skin tones, where you really, really don't want a greenish tint!

@AshLordCurry 4 года назад

the skins doesn't looks green, it looks more natural, plus RED's footage are meant to be color graded,

@dxkaiyuan4177 4 года назад

Yeah honestly i don't like that green tint

@thirtyfivemillimeters3569 4 года назад

Whenever a new camera comes out I'm always waiting for gene's comparison with the red. He's 100% going to make one with the blackmagic pocket cinema camera 6k😂

@PotatoJet 4 года назад

Absolutely!

@JLSTibu 4 года назад

@@PotatoJet I'm really waiting to see that. It's definitely going to be gory...

@Rek-55 4 года назад

I guessed )

@CameraDev 4 года назад

Potato Jet Do you happen to be giving away a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k any time soon? Hmmm...?

@tausifraza6910 2 года назад

@@PotatoJet Hi, I got a 6400. How can I build the Cinema JETPACK LUT? Can you give me the entire setting? Thanks

@TommyCallaway 4 года назад

Solid comparison as always bro! For me, with all these awesome cameras, I've found that I need to work on my story telling more than anything. The camera is becoming inconsequential for basic online content, but when you're spending a ton of cash on a shot or explosions, being able to push color or half a stop of DR makes sense in the pro world.

@alfonsonation 4 года назад

No lie, I've had the a6400 for almost a month and I am beyond impressed with the quality! This thing is absolutely PERFECT for RU-vidrs. Only downside in my opinion is the weak battery life. But with the ability to use the camera while plugged in and with some extra batteries, not even noticeable. Also the lack of IBIS is not even as big a deal as most people are making it out to be. LOVE this camera. Nice video!

@justTomYT 4 года назад

honestly i liked the a6400 in some situation more than the red. its a bad feeling but its true xD

@jmackultra 4 года назад

just Tom you're not alone

@AllanGildea 4 года назад

So did I and I was directing a pro shoot today with a red!

@Newtperc 4 года назад

Me too! Wild!

@vladimirtomin8223 4 года назад

That's because you see a lot of screens everyday around you and in a way it forms your taste, because due to lower power consumption human brain likes what it's already familiar with. Since 6400 picture is basically a cellphone picture, it will appeal to wide audience nowadays. Nothing wrong with it. Blackmagic also went this road in Pocket 4K, it's more like GH5 now picture-wise, rather than movie-like like original Pocket Camera or Production camera from Blackmagic. I for one love Fujifilm X-T30 with old Soviet lenses because it's an anti-cellphone picture Color-wise, but my taste in matter is in minority crowd for sure.

@John69420 4 года назад

@@vladimirtomin8223 bruh "cellphone picture"... What are you on about😂

@bruhmoment7797 4 года назад

Both are cameras are very iconic, and while one may seem to have the upper hand, they both preformed to such an outstanding degree in regards to quality, and features. Great Video!😀

@chosenideahandle 4 года назад

I've been tweaking my own LUTs for the Sony mirrorless cameras over the last two years, only to have them change the colour on me lol. I can't say I've been inclined to check out anyone else's Sony LUTs until you put these out. Good work! It was very cool seeing an episode of you here with your partner in crime visiting Matti. Your collaborations with him are something I always look forward to. Nice people coming together to do what they enjoy makes for fun watching!

@Thejohnventura 4 года назад

Yes. I’m buying your LUTS! 😳🙌🏽 the footage you took looks like a movie I’d watch over and over

@vishnuprasad7574 4 года назад

your color grading always givesaway which one is red always more greenish than other camera

@noahsduck4109 4 года назад

Hmm I would say it always has a yellowish tint too

@RealSebus 4 года назад

so true!

@BBSHOCKZ 4 года назад

I agree haha

@ltnlng 4 года назад

Yeah, it always makes me feel like I have cataracts and I hate it.

@seanc.5310 4 года назад

I can always tell Red and ARRI from the softer image. The smaller cameras definately do more sharpening

@kevinyin3353 4 года назад

Hey potato! I actually learned from your comparison videos about the green tint of cinema cameras. I tried pushing some greens into the shadows of my sony camera and it worked pretty nicely! Thanks for the content as always!

@ejiroogagah2476 2 года назад

How did you do this?

@RomaFedorov 4 года назад

Man i'm watching you since you had like less than a 1000 subscribers and i always knew you'll grow really fast on this platform. Look at you now at 381K subscribers, really impressive!

@hirostvjapan 4 года назад

Just bought a6400 LUT. I was waiting for this. Can't wait to use it.

@Zmywak 4 года назад

Instant purchase! Thanks 4 LUT pack! Thumb UP :)

@HolaMundoDev 3 года назад

I could identify the camera instantly on the first shot, however, after luts applied and color corrected I can say that the difference is not a lot under my perspective. You do have to take care about the shots, I don't know a lot about the technical differences between the two but OOTB the sony seems more red and has a synthetic sharpening. The good thing is that this differences can be corrected in post, create a preset and your are mostly done. Thank you for your review, not very informative but you can make your own judgement on the looks.

@LILUGOINDABUILDING 3 года назад

you mean, the difference is not a LUT under your perspective.....haha...ha.....

@AmaraARW 3 года назад

you could even just lower the sharpening in the profile to get rid of that synthetic sharpening

@waynelast1685 3 года назад

99% of people won’t notice a difference so why spend thousands more? I’m sure there must be some reasons.

@LILUGOINDABUILDING 3 года назад

@@waynelast1685 well..standards, details, file formats, reliability ecc...by the way i bought a sony a6400 recently with a sigma 30mm f 1.4 lens. I LOVE IT.

@Ritalie 3 года назад

@@waynelast1685 People making videos notice it. If you are a film maker, then you won't be able to produce something that looks digitally enhanced, and synthetic. Movie audiences are really so stupid, they don't deserve the level of detail and the cinematic beauty of movies. Thank god that we still have beautiful art. Never ask "why" something should be beautiful. Never take beautiful art for granted. Consider ourselves lucky that beautiful art still exists.

@RileySerola 4 года назад

Always look forward to your gear comparison videos. You make them so enjoyable to watch.

@chiggedycheckyoself 4 года назад

Thanks for labeling left and right. Probably would have thought the left side was right and vice verse without that. Lifesaver!

@seanc.5310 4 года назад

Wait I definately got this one... LEFT: -Red Cinema- *A6400* RIGHT: -A6400- *Red Cinema*

@mahektailor4542 4 года назад

Black magic pocket cinema camera 6K is relesed with super 35

@thisisajaym 4 года назад

RIP to all other indie video cameras

@Shundoninja 4 года назад

Nah I think many indie films will still go for UMP 4.6k. Better dynamic range and better support for larger crews

@bcbhir 4 года назад

Every time Panasonic release something blackmagic make it obsolete (hello gh5s). Nobody will buy their overpriced ff cameras now. They should've gone the apsc route like bm.

@dayspoiler4608 4 года назад

they're making everyone else look silly at the moment

@messyfilms6325 4 года назад

Just need about 100 gigs for like 5 minutes of footage.

@Nonvido 4 года назад

WOW! With your custom profile and grade it looks amazingly close to the RED!

@Kornholeeoo 3 года назад

Just bought the LUTs. Can't wait to upload them. Thanks. I shoot outdoors at a pistol range and often run into a lot of sunny shots and this should help fix it for me. Thanks! Also subbed too!

@SparerCheese 4 года назад

You gotta do the xt-30 vs the a6400 they seem like such perfect competitors

@MayankBadhan 3 года назад

Toyota Vs Ferrari

@Sheeshh777 13 дней назад

Toyota supra*

@akaseahorse 10 дней назад

@@Sheeshh777 yes 😳😳😳😳

@TaskForceMediaGroup 4 года назад

I like how you did this, a real Jedi mind trick. I watched the video for the comparison and left wanting to buy your LUT pack. Bravo my friend...Bravo.

@rollyourown 4 года назад

As with every project, it's the right tool for the job. Great stuff, as always, Gene! Keep. It. Up.

@iceeeyN00B 4 года назад

These “Which camera is which” opening poles aren’t fun for me anymore... Mr. Jet has taught me enough that i always get it right. Also, blah blah blah, green tint.... no ones mentioning highlight roll off. That was the give away right away for me.

@KarlGutowski 4 года назад

The a6400 has this magenta love thing going, so your LUT turns reds into orange to make skin tones more natural. (See neon sign at 8:09)

@AngeloDau 4 года назад

You are right

@XjeraldX 4 года назад

Been coming across your videos lately, and you've definitely earned a new subscriber. Thanks for the content!

@coachjohnlucas7451 4 года назад

You finally got me to buy a LUT pack. Keep making great content.

@MichaelRFenton 4 года назад

You should do a RED camera shootout/comparisons 👀 also what are your thoughts on the BMPCC6K announcement??

@YOUAREMYKIN 4 года назад

You have this unusual cadence when you speak, that is kinda, mesmerizing. I can see you taking over those David Attenborough nature docs! Great videos Gene.

@Xbot4Life 4 года назад

Oh no, a man fan

@Nachos237 3 года назад

No he sounds like an pretentious douch but I really like his videos he makes it work.

@chadelosreyes342 4 года назад

thanks much for the review potato jet. I'm actually getting one tomorrow (08.10.2019). it really help me a lot to decide of getting the sony a6400

@mm_99321 3 года назад

Searched the whole internet for a simple and clear explanation of HLG vs. SLOG, and yet none of everything I watched was as clear and straight to the point as the Potato Jet's video.

@MurdockCakeLie 4 года назад

“Hey mom, just so you know I’m bringing my $25,000 camera to the cookout. Yeah, it’s for another RU-vid video. Love you too mom, see you soon, bye.”

@besttourinrio9 4 года назад

Great video! Do you have this Luts for the Sony A7 iii? If so would it work for Final Cut Pro X ? Really like your videos bringing friendship atmosphere !

@Cinou 4 года назад

Crazy how close the comparison is getting between these consumer friendly cameras and big cinema cameras.

@J0kuc 4 года назад

That was so easy. The one one the right just has that movie feel to it for some reason. While the Sony seemed to have a sharper image, it also looks like a home video.

@rafael.c_costa Год назад

and we never saw the luts again

@BimalRanabhat007 4 года назад

looking after the using lust its quite close.... may be after that you said which is red or Sony than i might have selected Sony for red..for the price of screen.

@NicktaculaPlays 4 года назад

Gene, you have made a few videos talking about colour profiles and LUT's etc. A video about the best profiles for Sony, Panasonic and Canon would be amazing and I am sure your LUT's will further help can the most out of the footage!

@DriversSide 4 года назад

man sonys with HLG look really good! great video!

@totoroutes5389 4 года назад

Could you make a review-fieldtest of the video-dslr Nikon D7000 ?

@jessb5417 4 года назад

why there's no link on the red camera?!

@DrewRomano 4 года назад

Your luts are nuts !!

@ATMTech 4 года назад

When I first started watched this channel I could never tell the difference but my eye has become more "trained" and now I can tell the cinema camera next the the consumer camera instantly

@milchplus 4 года назад

Maybe i could tell a difference if you didn’t make a cut to an other scene every millisecond 😛

@AshvonChamier 4 года назад

That did make it pretty difficult. I do the same thing in my edits anytime I have a GoPro shot. lol

@garbygarb31 4 года назад

lmao I could tell the different in less than a third of a second on the first example.

@baboonaiih 4 года назад

Yeah it was hard but you can generally tell a film camera from a pro-sumer camera because the film cameras seem to have less contrast or something which gives you room to color grade later

@vteconly 4 года назад

a6400 SOOC footage looks so much better than the RED. The magenta tint can be dialed down in camera.

@PaulFeinberg 4 года назад

Just did a collab with another RU-vidr with this camera and the Tamron 17-28mm. Wow that AF tracking is just amazing!

@Jacob_Roberts 4 года назад

I love your laid back and jovial style.

@VladislavRadakShow 4 года назад

I am a simple man, I see VS Potato video and I click. Kidding aside, I think Potato should also focus on more affordable cameras and go back to compare them, I use m50 for my channel and it does wonders if you know all the tricks that I mostly learned here. Thanks!

@eskolatv-pe2kv 4 года назад

Which color profile u use?

@dirtyfingaz543 4 года назад

Agreed

@VladislavRadakShow 4 года назад

@@eskolatv-pe2kv I use custom cinestyle and then colour correction in Pr

@preritdotech4281 4 года назад

I have question, is LUT has to be specific to camera and color profile ???

@whereyousobbysobsob 4 года назад

Yes. Because because different camera have different Bayer Filter(leads to different colour science) and different camera brands have different colour or picture profile and hence good LUTS have to be made specifically for a very niche settings.

@preritdotech4281 4 года назад

Ryan Thor Thanks Ryan for clarification.

@nicolaslabra2225 4 года назад

Dynamic range and highlight roloff is a super quick giveaway always in these comparisons, then color differentiation, but overall the differences are subtle.

@Voxton 4 года назад

Just bought the LUT pack, I plan on getting an a6400 as a 2nd cam for wedding shoots. My main cam is an FS5II. The a6400, a7III, and FS5ii all use the same "Venice" color profile. You may want to relabel the LUT pack to Sony Venice LUT pack as it will be great for matching grades between all the new Sony cams with the Venice profiles. Sure I will get a little more contrast on my FS5 but thats something I can tweak after. May increase sales especially when the A7SIII comes out.

@muddassirkhan8841 4 года назад

I actually prefer sony a6400 after grading with ur luts💖💖💖

@JohnEsperancilla 4 года назад

You already making too much RED comparison videos, that i already know the colors of RED cameras.

@tash_views 4 года назад

A6400 after the HLG applied blew my mind trully. It looks almost like proper film.

@RosskoPeeko 4 года назад

cant wait to pick up my 6400. im definetly using your LUTs

@ProduzioniClandestine 4 года назад

And the lenses? Did you use the (lousy) a6400 kit lens for this kind of test??

@cj64films 4 года назад

That’s what it seems like in the first test with no picture profile. He should’ve at least used that Tamaron for all of it

@EinzMY 4 года назад

If he use kit lens, its why he got those autofocus issue when using slog2. The 1650 kit lens has slow autofocus motor because it is just a cheap kitlens. Tonnes of other youtubers use slog2 since 2016 and theres no mention of autofocus issue.

@RicoResolves 4 года назад

I might not be first, but I'm here regardless 😁👍!

@Jawmsie 4 года назад

I truly love the takeaway from this video. Anytime we can subvert the classic "your camera doesn't matter" moment, I will be happy.

@houlester 4 года назад

I haven’t even watched the video yet and I’m already going to say great video. Can’t wait.

@Moriarty2007 4 года назад

1. You should use the same lens on both. 2. Use PP6(or S-log) and correc it to green RED cololor profile.

@kluone 4 года назад

Yes! Especially the LENS! DOF has a big impact on image perception, lens color rendition based on coatings and quality of optical elements probably has an even bigger impact!

@espro436 4 года назад

You can always spot this greenish color of red.

@TechnoBabble 4 года назад

It's not that the RED is green, the Sony just isn't properly capturing and rendering green in the image, making it too magenta or too blue in certain shots.

@jozosaravanja1626 4 года назад

@@TechnoBabble In every comparison red had greenish tint. It's not just sony comparison.

@TechnoBabble 4 года назад

@@jozosaravanja1626 Go look at it compared to Arri, RED more yellow and Arri is more red. When you compare cinema cameras to consumer cameras it's almost always the green that gives it away.

@ExtremeCrashMan55 4 года назад

I've been waiting for those luts. You reviewed the a6400 like a day or two after I got mine

@AlexMinor 4 года назад

I've never been a Sony shooter, but I can admit the A6400 has me tempted to try it out.

@KevinTalbotTV 4 года назад

I think the sony looked better

@drawingart8194 3 года назад

jes 👌🏽👌🏽

@bvnesta 3 года назад

me too!!

@kylemesdag7770 3 года назад

same!!

@lanceemry5899 3 года назад

100% thought the left was the red camera it looked 10/10

3 года назад

it's because the red was badly color graded

@tunglamduong3000 4 года назад

No one:... Imo-san: *”GO BUY MY LUT”*

@Micah-Woods 4 года назад

Great comparison video! Appreciate the info on the differences between HLG/SLOG. I use cine4 and haven't had any issues with autofocus. I'll shoot HLG3 if I want to try something a lil different because of the colors. 😁

@garyquintrell4878 4 года назад

Your so good to to watch ......Your informative with a great sense of humor Jean ...............

@SamSung-nf6tr 4 года назад

Everything looks good on a phone How about 50" tv

@JiveBedonia 4 года назад

Why not try the GH5 in its full max settings? C4K 10bit 422 Prores HQ

@hoangvunguyen9311 4 года назад

I tried to color graded with my GH5 footage and It looked pretty close to RED camera.

@KrunoslavStifter 4 года назад

What you get as advantage with profiles and bit rate, bit depth, you lose on auto focus that can't be used reliably for continues video work and you have much worse low light performance. So its a trade of. If you can control the light and have focus puller, GH5 makes more sense. For youtube run and gun stuff, or simple vlogging a6400 makes perfect sense.

@hoangvunguyen9311 4 года назад

Krunoslav Stifter I never use auto focus while filming. Gh5 low light performance is a bit off but still work for me.

@KrunoslavStifter 4 года назад

@@hoangvunguyen9311 Sure. In your original post you mentioned GH5 not GH5s, so yes that would be close in low light performance to large sensor camera like APS-C. As for autofocus, yeah if you don't need it that is great. If you are solo operator and doing gimble work, auto focus is indispensable for vlogging or run and gun work where you want shallow depth of field. There is a tool for each job. and today we have more choices than ever and new ones are on the way, so we can't complain much. :) Cheers!

@froznfire9531 4 года назад

@@KrunoslavStifter the gh5 also has the amazing ibis which would be key for vlogging for me... the gh5 autofocus actually got much better with latest updates, works fine now not as good as a6400 ofc but still fine. And yeah lowlight isn't good, but there are low aperture lenses or the speedboosters of af doesn't matter, the a6400 also doesn't have great low light

@David-wl7ft 4 года назад

This was a great video again. Thanks Gene!

@trekracer20 4 года назад

Hey, I designed the Gordon Parks banner at 5:35! And also, nice video.

@garystackhouse5787 4 года назад

So, basically, if I take my Sony, defocus it a bit, then slide the whole color pallette to toward green and desaturate it some, I don't need to buy a Red? Good to know.

@hanscfs 4 года назад

Kind of. The dynamic range is the main differences. Other than that, we can adjust the a6400 and make it as close as it can to RED.

@garystackhouse5787 4 года назад

@@hanscfs That comment was (MOSTLY) tongue-in-cheek. ;-)

@Tuvzii 3 года назад

is it just me or is the 6400 way more clear too ?

@SamuelSutanto 4 года назад

"THORONO...." Was my pronounciation correct?

@Styalistic 4 года назад

Had the a6400 for a few weeks and I love it can’t wait to get a better lens for it

@tacosdecamaron 4 года назад

Good stuff. Thank you Potato Jet!

@alexmeier19 4 года назад

Random comment: what do you think of the film "Free Solo"?

@sanchez.mg3234 3 года назад

Great doc I loved it saw it in IMAX

@prdisluv 4 года назад

noone: absolutely NOBODY: Potatoe Jet: RED VS *insert popular camera here*

@amabuzo 3 года назад

You're so funny and informative. Best ever lol. buying your LUTs, im convinced.

@brahim20112010 4 года назад

Woow very great video thnx bro! you really nailed it with the LUT 👏👏👏👌

@COSCOSBEATS 4 года назад

I’m still trynna figure out how Potato Jet got that girl 😅

@petrudiaconu1565 4 года назад

Get a sense of humour and a career and it'll do the trick

@neezumcaleb3644 4 года назад

The red footage now looks more like arri when compared to the sony

@BAdventures 4 года назад

Good comparison and demo 👍

@kindeofficial7317 3 года назад

Really thinking about buying the a6400 as my starter thanks 🙏🏾

@capnshankz3303 4 года назад

If there's RED in the title, I click.

@harikishore2514 4 года назад

$4k camera can do the same of what red can do.. but when you are producing movie with hundreds of millions budget, you don't bother throwing 80k or more at it.. and I don't mind using red for movies cuz they have to keep lot details for edit and for 8k resolution. But I don't get the fukin point in marques and linus using several of red cameras.

@ifb6368 4 года назад

Arri cameras are much cheaper and far better for RU-vid too.

@johndailyva 4 года назад

Very useful video -- subscribed and will be buying your luts !

@KhairulOnggon 4 года назад

Greetings from Malaysia. Thanks for the tips. 👍🏻👏🏻

@AtulBhati_ 4 года назад

Giveaway a6400👍👍👍👍💕💓

@RealTechnoPanda 4 года назад

Sony looks way better. Red looks like hot garbage!

@birkgroven9160 4 года назад

Lol

@mattnykamp 4 года назад

do you know anything about cameras lol

@jaysonkhadka189 4 года назад

I was waiting for this video from the launch date of a6400. Thank You Aalu (Potato in Nepali)

@MarlonKingShow 4 года назад

Nice video man, the footage on these sonys is really impressive regardless of the butter smooth RED. I'm using cine4 on the a6500, was hlg the new one released for the a6400? I wonder if there is much difference.