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Sony a7III vs. Canon EOS R vs. Nikon Z6 2020 Rematch! 

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We retested the Sony a7III, Canon EOS R and Nikon Z6 to see if all-new firmware changed our previous rankings from 2018. Has the Sony, Canon, or Nikon improved most?
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@RhawiDantas
@RhawiDantas 4 года назад
In first place I give it to Chrises hair: beautifully arranged, has a nice monochrome gradation and superb aerodynamic against the wind.
@maheshg212
@maheshg212 4 года назад
why else do we watch these videos for :-)
@thearutalha1046
@thearutalha1046 4 года назад
😅😅😅
@JesusJackson
@JesusJackson 4 года назад
I'm glad you pointed out the aerodynamics of it
@danieldougan269
@danieldougan269 4 года назад
That monochromatic gradation is leaning more toward gray all the time. Sadly, that is also happening to me. As I recall from the Nikon Z50 video last year, Chris and I were born just a few days apart.
@theolynwarrender
@theolynwarrender 4 года назад
The histogram on that hair is the most symmetrical mountain you could ever dream of.
@abrarfaiyaz2339
@abrarfaiyaz2339 4 года назад
"Images from the EOS R have beautiful colors" puts up a black and white image. love the content. love from Bangladesh. stay safe everyone
@JetBen555
@JetBen555 4 года назад
Can't wait for the real rematch: A7IV vs EOS R6 vs Z6 Mk2
@drbeardo6960
@drbeardo6960 4 года назад
R6
@abhi_sh3_k
@abhi_sh3_k 4 года назад
Correct me if I'm wrong but is there a Z6 MK2?
@pvattoly
@pvattoly 4 года назад
Z6 Mk2 ?? Nikon might start thinking for Z6 Mk2 now ..
@Davitor1
@Davitor1 4 года назад
Sadly I think Sony is just doing the Canon way of just sitting back and letting the competition beat them.
@romanpul
@romanpul 4 года назад
@@abhi_sh3_k None of these cameras are really around. And the R6 is the only one we know anything about
@jamesryan1939
@jamesryan1939 4 года назад
I bought the z6 and the a7III and used them both for a whole year of weddings. I ended up keeping the z6 and selling the a7III. When comparing the a7III to the z6 firmware 3 the AF is near identical. The Nikon is far ahead in grip, build, weather sealing, EVF, IBIS, raw video, 10 bit external, touch screen, menus, and colors sooc. The only two areas the Sony is better is in battery life which is close to double, and the ability to power the camera while running via USB. The z6 is by far the most underrated camera, at the current $1799 price and firmware 3.0 it is amazing. Still bummed about the single card slot.
@Faded.Visuals
@Faded.Visuals 4 года назад
I have a very similar story to yours, as a wedding/portraiture photographer/videographer I was debating between with Sony and Canon. I bought a Sony a7ii went it was first release as a backup camera to my 5dmarkiv, and it was alright camera but the colors and AF was just plain awful, but after the release of the a7iii and a7riii I ultimately ditched Canon to fully commit to Sony. Yes, the colors are not the best, but the battery life, dual SD card slots, and the AF was more than enough to switch :)
@moealyasini2784
@moealyasini2784 4 года назад
James Ryan that might be true i never trier the Sony but I just sold my Z6&Z7 and bought 2 EOS R. The AF Is soooo much more accurate and that’s what drove me away from Z System (along with the amazing new RF glass) Z EYE AF was never consistent and had 50% in focus only which was tiring and getting old. Yeah I had latest firmware and all Z glass
@CosminCraiova
@CosminCraiova 4 года назад
for Sony sistem you can buy the Tamron holy trinity of lenses and for less than half of the price of Nikon and Canon with brand lenses. Also A7IV will appear by the end of the year.
@iviaverick52
@iviaverick52 4 года назад
I've loved the A7III, battery life, AF, and low light are insane and I love it for that. Literally the only thing it's missing that I really wish it had was 4k 60 frame rate or external 10-bit recording. Everything else has been great for me.
@clherrick
@clherrick 4 года назад
I appreciate your thoughts as one who has used both. I have to think a IV will be out soon. Game changer or a tweak. I do love my Nikon DSLR.
@williamsolis1
@williamsolis1 4 года назад
The facial expressions behind the camera during the places were so funny!
@razerone49
@razerone49 4 года назад
x12 417 You have to be 12 to be observant? Only an immature person would be so quick to calling someone else a child🥱
@exploringtogether7907
@exploringtogether7907 4 года назад
Got the Z6 2 months ago. IT is by far the best camera I've ever used. It is just a fun experience
@marcoantonioregiltv
@marcoantonioregiltv 4 года назад
Love my Nikon Z6 and now there's a 70-200 f2.8 s for the Z system!!
@fiercefianchettor
@fiercefianchettor 3 года назад
Bro I wanna ask question that, are u loving ur nikon z6 coz I also wanna buy one for me but I am Confused with nikon z6 and canon r6
@DieCastErn
@DieCastErn 3 года назад
Nikon really sucks they add a single chip into Z6/Z7 and call them mark 2 🤦🏻‍♂️
@elementarytechie6449
@elementarytechie6449 3 года назад
@@DieCastErn at least z6/7 are cheap used now lol
@-szega
@-szega 3 года назад
@@DieCastErn Canon has been doing just that for 15 years lel.
@SushantThapaliya
@SushantThapaliya 4 года назад
I'm someone who's always used Canon. I love their glass, and I love their make and feel. I still do. I used a Canon 5Diii until a year back. Bought a Sony a7iii last year to get into the mirrorless market mainly because EOS R was kinda expensive and lacking in the lens department. I still use my old Canon during travel because it has wayyyy better battery life compared to the modern Sony, but I have to say that Sony's AF is astounding. And the eye tracking is phenomenal! Even under low light! Also, the two main lenses I use with it (70-200 GM and the Sigma 35mm/1.4) are absolutely amazing. I can't go back to my old 70-200 IS lens anymore. Haha. I'm excited for Canon's upcoming R5 though. Also for the new compact 70-200. Will probably use that as my second camera in a year or so if the world doesn't end by then. Haha.
@_w.w._
@_w.w._ 4 года назад
I just noticed you guys left “thecamerastoretv” hahaha. I think i was living under a rock. Great to see you guys again!
@thatjordandrake
@thatjordandrake 4 года назад
Glad you found us!
@dionamuh
@dionamuh 4 года назад
Without the Sony a7iii I would have never switched to FF. Combined with awesome third party lenses from Samyang and Tamron, it's just about affordable en portable enough for me!
@BeaveBallin7
@BeaveBallin7 4 года назад
Dionamuh I just bought a A7III, 28-75, and 17-28 all brand new last week for under $3500 (US)! That’s incredible value for a hobbyist like myself with professional gear
@Sherinthomas791
@Sherinthomas791 4 года назад
TV-G which brand lens
@dionamuh
@dionamuh 4 года назад
@@Sherinthomas791 Tamron.
@airrun88
@airrun88 3 года назад
@@BeaveBallin7 I’m really interested in the A7iii. I’ve been burrowing my friends Canon T7i rebel, another’s Nikon D3200, and another’s Nikon D810. I keep coming back to the Sony A7iii to have my own cameras and for it to be full frame. I’m wanting to do portraits. I have started to maternity photos for my friends and family that are expecting. My brother in law wants me to be apart of his wedding by taking photos. The thing I’m afraid of is the age. Is buying the a7iii going to hold up for the next two to three years. Are they going to discontinue it and render it obsolete. A lot of the wedding stuff is going to be happening around the first part of next year. The A7iii and A7C are in my price range. I like the dual SD slots on the a7iii. Just curious on what others are thinking.
@guardianobserver6593
@guardianobserver6593 3 года назад
@@airrun88 It's a good but old camera. I look at it also but we know that lenses give the big difference and Canon have an extensive line of old but great lenses. There is no need to buy R lenses.
@Sitti2300
@Sitti2300 4 года назад
Amazing to see how quickly both Nikon and Canon catching up with their 1st gen mirrorless against Sony's 3rd gen. So happy to see finally we have real competitions is mirrorless market, which is really great for us :D
@touristguy87
@touristguy87 2 года назад
Um, you've had competition in the mirrorless market ever since u-4/3rds came out.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 4 года назад
Nice comparison fellas, and I also loved the video quality of the review too...
@wikedwhich1
@wikedwhich1 3 года назад
Nice to see you praising another reviewer ...it does me ole heart good..
@asadsultan1208
@asadsultan1208 4 года назад
"Jordan is getting detected as animal, may be they are correct at that." Chris and his subtle humour.
@wikedwhich1
@wikedwhich1 3 года назад
aaah..not that subtle...I find it very DRY
@Georgeinthejungle
@Georgeinthejungle 4 года назад
Guys, one of the early Canon firmware updates has corrected the noise pattern issue when extremely pushing in the shadows. This is know and well documented and does, as a result, improve dynamic range results, which are really close to the rest of the pack, in a way that many would say any difference is minimal (DPReview agrees in their latest article on which the vid is based upon). DPReview however have not updated their studio scene test and their test shots do not reflect that. I am mentioning this because in the video you said that Canon has not made any changes in dynamic range behaviour through firmware.
@Jimmy87268
@Jimmy87268 4 года назад
I kind of missed the S1 in here! Good comparison nonetheless, thanks for revisiting with firmware.
@Lofote
@Lofote 4 года назад
They only compared entry level cameras here, specifically under a certain price point. The S1 is quite more expensive.
@janwedek
@janwedek 4 года назад
SwitchRich and in some superior.
@pattiesalon
@pattiesalon 4 года назад
@sleepy at dawn But how is it compared to the A9 Mark 2 ?
@ilanhoward
@ilanhoward 4 года назад
What pushes me to choose Sony are the Tamron 2.8 zooms. The others don’t have competing lenses at similar costs and size. Waiting for the 7IV to improve on ergo/LCD/EVF.
@CosminCraiova
@CosminCraiova 4 года назад
yes, a A7IV and the Tamron trinity lenses will be my holly grail camera system :)
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 4 года назад
They actually do. The Nikon Z 50mm is the best 50mm ever. And it cost half the price of the Sony'/ Zeiss 55mm. Also the Nikon Z 24-70 f2.8 S is little pricey, but it's a lot better then the Tamron 28-70 or even the Sony 24-70 f2.8.
@snodgegrass8
@snodgegrass8 4 года назад
@@BigBoss-gb4cx And the new Sony 20mm f1.8 FE is way better and cheaper than the Nikkor Z 20mm f/1.8, the Sony 24mm F1.4 and their FE 90mm Macro are the best lenses available in their class. Horses for courses, far greater range with Sony suiting all budgets both native and third party.
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech 4 года назад
Paul Jones nah, I own the lens, it’s pretty smooth, if you stop it down, it might be a bit chunky, but so is every lens, at 2.8 it’s as smooth as you could ask for something at 2.8
@youknowwho9247
@youknowwho9247 4 года назад
@@snodgegrass8 Source? From what I'm reading the Z glass blows the GM glass out of the water across the board, including the 20 f/1.8s.
@luisneumannp2748
@luisneumannp2748 4 года назад
Would be cool to see a S1 in the mix! Especially since it also improved a lot via firmware updates
@EdStarkey
@EdStarkey 4 года назад
I know right!
@BenjaminSandness
@BenjaminSandness 4 года назад
I was thinking the same thing.
@ofmetalphilosophy4837
@ofmetalphilosophy4837 4 года назад
tbh I tested it for a month and I believe it's a very competitive camera. that contrast detect AF though.....!
@ofmetalphilosophy4837
@ofmetalphilosophy4837 4 года назад
and it's more expensive than any of these three cameras
@user-yn5zc8kd3e
@user-yn5zc8kd3e 4 года назад
S1 is 1.5 more expensive than any of those so i don't think it's fair to include them
@grsamael
@grsamael 4 года назад
EVF guys, EVF... Reviewers are not paying enough attention to that hugely important part of the mirrorless cameras. A high res, high refresh rate, bright and accurate EVF is very very important imo. And not all cameras have it as of 2020...
@bjornvesterdahl9238
@bjornvesterdahl9238 4 года назад
Michael Davleris, yes you are so right about the importance of an accurate EVF. I actually bought a Sony A9 and returned it because the EVF and the implementation of the EVF was really bad. Over sharpened and Sony didn’t use the full res of the EVF oled. My friend have a EOS R and I compared the EVF to my Nikon Z6. In my eyes there is a huge difference in both accuracy to the real world like colours, details, amount of light etc in favour to the Z6. And I noticed in the EOS R when you moved your eye a bit in the viewfinder there was quite noticeable amount of distortion. Nikon Z6/7 have the only sates factory EVF of the bunch. Though I haven’t tried A7rIV or S1.
@guardianobserver6593
@guardianobserver6593 3 года назад
I thought it was extensive /budget friendly lenses! Well I made a mistake.
@elementarytechie6449
@elementarytechie6449 3 года назад
@@guardianobserver6593 both are very important
@nickowenwilliams
@nickowenwilliams 4 года назад
Great video guys! I would love to see the S1 added to this comparison to see where it sits amongst the pack.
@AldenBunagCDAD
@AldenBunagCDAD 4 года назад
Earlier in the year I helped someone buy the Sony A7iii, he tried to convince me to switch to mirrorless but I was being stubborn and thinking that I was going to stick to DLSRs for the foreseeable future. Well during a photoshoot with 2 young dancers, knowing that the Sony A7iii would have a much easier time tracking the things they did than my Nikon D750, I took it with me despite only having an 85mm 1.8 lens for it. I ended up using it for 90% of the photoshoot and that convinced me to get the Nikon Z6 (and sell the D750 and D500).
@tianqi169
@tianqi169 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing. Are you happy with z6 compared to your experience with a7iii? I’m a Nikon shooter as well and am debating between getting a z6 (to pair with all my f glasses) and switching to Sony. Sony is said to have better focus, but it needs me to sell all my Nikon glasses. So wondering if that makes that much difference from a real-world use scenario. Thanks in adavance!
@lastStand630
@lastStand630 4 года назад
@@tianqi169 if you only worry about the AF, just go for it! With recent firmware updates especially the last one, the AF of Z6 was improved a lot.
@b3lievenhopephotography578
@b3lievenhopephotography578 4 года назад
@@lastStand630 I also like the fact you can shoot large, medium or small raw on the z7..idk about the z6. that means if I need 46 mp I have it..if im shooting a corporate event or wedding party I can shoot it at 26mp on medium raw. thats what stopped me from getting a sony a7. I like shooting detailed images too for landscape or high detailed portraits
@DryAx3
@DryAx3 4 года назад
@@tianqi169 Have you ever tried to hold Sony, its like toy with bad grip, weirdly put buttons and awful menus. Stay with Nikon as i am sure you will be revarded, Z-mount is the one to rule them all. I really really love my Z6, since i bought it it is always my nr.1 camera anywhere i go.
@krzysztofzwolinski956
@krzysztofzwolinski956 4 года назад
1:51 it's very personal thing, what screen is the best. Of course canon gives more angles. But for some shooters it's more comfortable to use simple tilting mechanism.
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 4 года назад
Yeah thats true but from an objective standpoint the screen on the R gives you far more options than that of the Z6 and 7III.
@DryAx3
@DryAx3 4 года назад
​@@AugmentedGravity well considering most shots we take are overhead or below waist horizontal shoots (and this is especially true for videographers) consider how many moves you need to do with Canon Eos R. You have to swivel screen first then turn it arround, with Nikon its only tilt, 1 move only. Its also more robust solution, not sticking out of camera too much. Well there are shots when i miss full swivel on my Nikon z6 but i actually use tilt a lot and prefer it as it is.
@carramrod7378
@carramrod7378 4 года назад
Someone said it in another video. You won’t be disappointed with any of these cameras
@rusparmesan
@rusparmesan 4 года назад
3rd party lenses is a big deal for me: I chose Sony A7III only because I could buy Tamron 28-75 2.8 as a travel lens. Both Nikon and Canon need 1000+$ more to buy 24-70, because no 3rd party glass exist for Z or R mount, you can buy another 1-2 lenses for Sony for that money.
@TaipeiGeek
@TaipeiGeek 4 года назад
@SwitchRich If you get the Nikon 24-70 F4 and 50 1.8 you have pretty much everything standard covered, and it's cheap and way better than any 3rd party crap by Tamron and Ligma.
@rusparmesan
@rusparmesan 4 года назад
@@TaipeiGeek 2.8 vs 4. And see the reviews for tamron 28-75 before calling it a bad lens, you can hardly find bad ones.
@TaipeiGeek
@TaipeiGeek 4 года назад
@@rusparmesan 28mm is not very wide, but that's the only way they were able to make a 2.8, lol. The only 3rd party lenses I buy are Voigtlander and Zeiss, these are quality lenses. Everything else is waste of money.
@saadazzahrani
@saadazzahrani 4 года назад
@@TaipeiGeek Tamron make 24-70 f2.8 lenses it's just they wanted to keep the size down. It's not the 1970's anymore where only German lenses are good. Some chinese manufacturers make better optics on some focal lengths that are better and cheaper than Voightlander lenses.
@TaipeiGeek
@TaipeiGeek 4 года назад
@@saadazzahrani I disagree. You're free to believe that, but you basically live in denial.
@Malitz101
@Malitz101 4 года назад
One of the best camera review channels on RU-vid.
@cotswoldphotographers
@cotswoldphotographers 4 года назад
Nobody’s going to be disappointed with any of these cameras and don’t think anything has changed significantly to move anyone away from their particular brands, which is really good for the market and competition. Look forward to seeing more third party lenses for both the Canon and Nikon however adaptors do a good job.
@Yume_Val
@Yume_Val Год назад
rip, 3rd party RF lenses
@1j007zm
@1j007zm 4 года назад
the Sony a7III was my introduction to digital photography, I'm glad it's still relevant. I'm blown away! because of all the options these things have compared to my old film cameras
@BlueBomberTurbo
@BlueBomberTurbo 4 года назад
There's not that much better than the A7 III unless you go into pro gear, or you want a photo camera solely to shoot video.
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 4 года назад
The third party lenses takes Sony over the line and I'm a Nikon shooter.
@liuels
@liuels 4 года назад
With techart adapter, those are also z lenes
@khoifoto
@khoifoto 4 года назад
The tamron and sigma lenses for sony e mount are excellent
@justa2
@justa2 4 года назад
Yep that pretty much sums it up for me too
@robbymacdonald8212
@robbymacdonald8212 4 года назад
The Nikon Z Native Glass... and I'm a Sony shooter.
@artmaltman
@artmaltman 4 года назад
@@liuels Thank you, I keep forgetting that Sony mount lenses adapt easily to the Nikon Z mount. Same for Canon R lenses, I believe.
@ogmike6444
@ogmike6444 4 года назад
tbh ive used all three and the one that just feels the nicest to use is the R, when it just feels nice to use a camera I feel more inspired and create more and better images.
@KyleClements
@KyleClements 4 года назад
I think Nikon's approach to their Z mount lenses makes a lot of sense: Focus on the lenses most people are going to use most often. 35, 50, and 85mm primes. Standard zooms for enthusiasts and pros alike.
@vfr800ch
@vfr800ch 4 года назад
Still no affordable Z mount 70-200mm F/4 lens on the roadmap, and I definitely prefer Son'y approach to opening up the system to 3rd party manufacturers which makes it more affordable for me for some lenses ( I similarly have a mix of Nikon and 3rd Party for my D7200).
@rzero21
@rzero21 4 года назад
@SwitchRich because they already have covered the most common zoom lens ranges. They have a 12-24/4, 16-35 both 2.8 and 4, 24-70 both 2.8 and 4, 24-240, 28-75, 24-105/4, 70-200 both 2.8 and f4, 100-400 and 200-600 and most users already own the zoom lenses they need, especially if they bought the 24-105/4 deal kit. That's why the best sellers in BHphoto from Sony are primes and macro followed by the 200-600mm. But then you see that overall best sellers for all mirrorless brands are the Sigma 24-70/2.8 for Sony E, the Tamron 70-180/2.8 for Sony E, and then a bunch of primes followed by the Sigma 12-24/2.8 for Sony E.
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 4 года назад
Also Nikon Z mount is the best when it comes to engineering. It has the most potential.
@danielvilliers612
@danielvilliers612 4 года назад
@SwitchRich Yep exactly, more so that now they are no more the only FF mirroless camera manufacturer. There was that article that they were prioritizing PS5 memory because of memory inventory. It sound crazy but it is real. I always say that, Nikon camera business is like 30% + while Sony is like 5% overall business. I think Canon is about half Nikon. They could easily sell their camera division compared to Nikon.
@logitech4873
@logitech4873 4 года назад
@@BigBoss-gb4cx A potential that won't really be utilized, because nobody's gonna buy a 100mm f/0.7 except Bill Gates.
@damiengrief
@damiengrief 4 года назад
I got an EOS R at launch and I love it. Still only using EF lenses on it with the Canon adapter, but performance is amazing. Literally my only complaint is I wish the Fn touch bar was replaced with a joystick. Though, I haven't had any issues using the touch screen to move my focus points.
@vagrantsneaker6514
@vagrantsneaker6514 4 года назад
Nice. Glad you guys did this. Great vid. Love my Z6. Haven’t looked back at my DSLR since I got it. The firmware updates have really improved this camera 📷 drastically in the focus area.
@chriscommons7915
@chriscommons7915 3 года назад
Can I ask what DSLR did you have before that? I’m looking at getting the z6 or the d750
@vagrantsneaker6514
@vagrantsneaker6514 3 года назад
@@chriscommons7915 Aside from other Nikons I have, my last DSLR before the upgrade to the Z6 was my d7200. Almost jumped on the D750 but waited too long to do that so jumped on their mirrorless. I actually just traded it in for the Z6ll. The biggest thing for me was the over all picture quality of the camera. I was super impressed coming off the D7200.
@chriscommons7915
@chriscommons7915 3 года назад
@@vagrantsneaker6514 thanks for the info
@elmachomen
@elmachomen 4 года назад
Great video guys, as always! I feel like this comparison is more than relevant today with all the improvements that Canon and Nikon have introduced in their cameras since they first came out. Still, they're playing catch-up and Sony, although not as far ahead as it once was remains the king of mirrorless full-frame having a more matured system, greater selection of both cameras and lenses to cater for different needs and audiences, so let's hope it doesn't fall asleep in the lead and see how it reacts to Canon's up-coming EOS R5 and R6.
@audamus6452
@audamus6452 4 года назад
I was curious about the pricing of those cameras an just looked it up. As of now you can buy a canon EOS R for as low as 1900 Euro, a Sony A7iii for 1844 Euro and a Nikon Z6 for 1500 Euro, which makes the z6 easily the best bang for the buck. Keep in mind that prices may differ in different regions. Greetings from Germany :)
@Boros777
@Boros777 4 года назад
You can get a close to new in the forums for around 1700...
@stkuj
@stkuj 4 года назад
I moved from Fuji to using the a7iii for a year now. I wish I had moved sooner. I have no issues with the grip (I do use the battery grip b/c I shoot only portraits). I only miss focus 1-2% of the time. I love the AF!!! The 3rd party lens support is great and getting better all the time. It's punches very high for value. Wait till the a7iv comes out!!!
@marioslrzn
@marioslrzn 4 года назад
Kepano 808 Personally I have never bought 3rd party lenses, I have 6 RF lenses and I don’t see anybody keeping up with performance
@MrRafalEn
@MrRafalEn 4 года назад
Can I ask what Fuji did you use ? And don't you have problems with Sony color science for portraits ? I ask since I also want to leave Fuji.
@mart_photo
@mart_photo 4 года назад
@@MrRafalEn 'color science' is only relevant if you shoot jpeg, just shoot raw and there is no problem at all no matter what camera you use...
@yedijaluhur
@yedijaluhur 4 года назад
What i need is : - Body and build from nikon Z6 - Menu system, color management, back screen, and autofocus from EOS R (because dual pixel is still best of the best) - Camera sensor from Sony A7iii
@rosetta-stxned
@rosetta-stxned 4 года назад
sony af is better
@yedijaluhur
@yedijaluhur 4 года назад
@@rosetta-stxned yeah, they are doing better lately, i acknowledge that, and canon also catch up with their newer firmware and their EOS 1D in its mirrorless mode.. But i still prefer canon DPAF since thats the one im used for, and know its characteristic..
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 4 года назад
I had the A7iii. I liked it a lot, I bought the z6 for Christmas just to try out ( I wasnt planing to send it back in 14 days if I dont like it). I ended up selling the A7iii. The z6 just do most things a lot better then the A7iii, this video doesn't really give justice to it. -better building -much better screen -better usability -better feeling -better clors -better senzor - better lenses ( less then the Sony, but what Nikon Z has is a lot better) -much better IBIS -faster card
@texasrex93
@texasrex93 4 года назад
Better sensor? They're practically the same lolol
@IntothewestOkotoks
@IntothewestOkotoks 4 года назад
As good as it is feature-wise, and for image quality, two things For sure hold me back from jumping to Sony - that EVF, and the handling. I get this is more subjective, and the touchbar on the EOS R isn’t loved by anyone, but the Canon still feels way better in my hand. The A7III is a huge improvement over the A7II, but still not enough.
@harukawa295
@harukawa295 4 года назад
I just got my nikon z6 2 weeks ago. I asked my friend what do you think of the camera? She said it’s underpriced because it is really the best packaged camera. The LCD is amazing, the ergonomics, the quality of photos and the video. I highly recommend. I picked this camera over SONY a73 eventhough I saw many reviewers especially the ones on YT and social media use Sony. I doubt it at first but I just followed my gut and now I have no regret. 😇
@vicimed8799
@vicimed8799 3 года назад
I am glad to hear. what made you choose the z6 over the a73?
@harukawa295
@harukawa295 3 года назад
@@vicimed8799 the image looks great straight out of camera. If you’re lazy to edit photos like me, you will find this useful. The ergonomics as well, it’s more comfortable holding the z6. The LCD is better on the z6 as well. It’s clear and bright. However, a73 is very good at autofocus and is better than z6 in that specific area. I don’t see AF as a dealbreaker for me so that’s why I chose z6.
@deathdoor
@deathdoor 4 года назад
"a year and a half ago", seriously?! Already...
@ralfrohrer5337
@ralfrohrer5337 4 года назад
The first place #1 goes without a doubt to the hairstyle of Chris! Stay safe! Greetings from germany!
@airjaff
@airjaff 4 года назад
I'm sorry but the nikon has way better image quality than the Sony! Way sharper, dynamic range is better, Sony blows out specular highlights terribly!
@a1exsand
@a1exsand 4 года назад
It's may 1st not April 1st, stop trolling.
@airjaff
@airjaff 4 года назад
@@a1exsand you must be a dumb Sony fan boy!
@BoleslawDeathinition
@BoleslawDeathinition 4 года назад
As a portrait and event shooter, who does hours of work a day, I need reliable output, comfy ergonomics and balance (which are for me more important than overal weight) and through build. Since I'm kinda skilled and AF needs to be just fast and reliable (I can cope with some limits in functions), I decided to stick to my system's top DSLR. But I wish mirrrorless to improve.
@4CardsMan
@4CardsMan 4 года назад
Remember, you can mount EF lenses with an excellent adapter on the Z6.
@RRRCCCDDD
@RRRCCCDDD 4 года назад
At this point who cares what you buy. One edges out the others in this area and the other edges out in this area. Each system can easily produce great images and video. A skilled artist can use any of these
@mrsusan893
@mrsusan893 4 года назад
So true
@r.powell2351
@r.powell2351 4 года назад
I dunno. I’m a canon user and for professional video the canon R doesn’t make the grade. I’m seriously thinking about jumping ship.
@flightscapeaviationphoto
@flightscapeaviationphoto 4 года назад
@@r.powell2351 Would it not be worth waiting to see the R5 or R6?.. that R5 sounds insane and I only shoot stills so the video features are not part of my decision. Not sure I'd jump off a Canon ship as I have multiple bodies, a number of L-glass (mk II versions) and the ergonomics are perfect for what I do. (High-speed aviation photography - military and aerobatic stunt pilots). The R wasn't even a consideration for me because continuous AF at 7-10 FPS isn't there... I've chosen to wait. Since you're a video person, your requirements are obviously far different.
@TheSuperBeatmaster
@TheSuperBeatmaster 4 года назад
R. Powell what are your options? I’m in the same boat, thinking to go blackmagic.
@doptimist
@doptimist 4 года назад
R. Powell these are not pro video cameras.
@AshBashSneakers
@AshBashSneakers 4 года назад
Sounds like you can’t go wrong with any of them.. I went with the z6 and I’ve not been disappointed.. videos come out excellent photos are amazing.. native glass is spectacular.. would some f1.2 or f1.4 be nice? Yes but it would also be expensive and I probably would be adapting everything if they had that eos r strategy.. I don’t know a single eos r user with native glass because it’s crazy money. Also I’m able to adapt Sony and Canon lenses with a cheap adapter and it works very well so the lens range is covered.. the power of that giant mount is showing.
@todanrg3
@todanrg3 4 года назад
Should we really judge image quality only by pushing shadows 6 stops?
@v3zMedia
@v3zMedia 4 года назад
Round of applause for this amazing S1H footage. I know what I'm buying if the EOS R5 is pushed back too far or too expensive.
@over1498
@over1498 4 года назад
10:35 I've been searching for this reaction gif all my life
@garbygarb31
@garbygarb31 3 года назад
That’s not a gif
@trym2121
@trym2121 4 года назад
First place for video, Panny S1H. Why? Jordan uses it, not any of those 3.
@Linealo
@Linealo 4 года назад
Should have taken the chance to put the S1 in too ;)
@seochris100
@seochris100 4 года назад
Yes...i was headed for the R then thought that if i was going to get the benefit of the system and native glass I would never pay the sort of money Canon want for their RF glass! So went for the Nikon instead and can also use EF lenses on it as well so I'm very happy as always preferred the Nikon colours and rendering.
@rzero21
@rzero21 4 года назад
11:53 holy cow, for a second I thought it was a vertical photo and they were gonna put a comparison to the left (like how sometimes they did before) but it was a horizontal shot!
@DarrylUK
@DarrylUK 4 года назад
Haha, I thought the same!
@rotvonrat
@rotvonrat 4 года назад
Have people commenting on the video and saying something else is better really all these cameras, lol. All I know is that I like my Nikon Z6, the best camera available, for me. I don't think about Canon and Sony for a second, but when Nikon comes out with the next generation ... 100%. Nice review.
@crowrequiem3934
@crowrequiem3934 4 года назад
A flippy screen is useful for video and portrait orientation and a tilt screen is quite handy for street photography, depends on your usage really. But I still think A99's flip screen is better though, fuji's tilt screen is also more useful than the current a73 one.
@Jefff72
@Jefff72 4 года назад
I have Z6 with 24-70mm S. I would love a 24-110 or something like that. I have 18-105mm on my D5200 and I like the flexibility. I like not having to switch the glass to zoom to say 100mm.
@Kprawl291986
@Kprawl291986 4 года назад
That video quality from the SH1 is beautiful
@CrotZari
@CrotZari 4 года назад
What about battery life? That was a huge factor for me when choosing Sony A7 3. Had Nikon Z6 had a larger battery, I would have chosen that camera due to ergonomics.
@frickseerose6146
@frickseerose6146 4 года назад
Are you sure sonys Battery is better than nikons? Because i get over a thousand shots or a whole day of Video shooting out of one battery
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 4 года назад
@@frickseerose6146 the sony is pretty good mate , i couldnt tell you how many shots i get out of battery , it is pretty good though in my use , a thousand sounds pretty good though , what is your camera mate ?
@madtoffelpremium8324
@madtoffelpremium8324 4 года назад
I'am really interested to see how Canon's next generation R6&R5 are going to compete against Sony's a7 iv/a7r iv, after all these improvements they made in such a short time. But there is still no replacement in sight for Nikon's Z6&Z7.
@vidthreenorth4007
@vidthreenorth4007 4 года назад
I think it would have been good to include the Panasonic S1 this time, but from what I have seen, it can be hard to get one lately.
@luisguzman6406
@luisguzman6406 3 года назад
I left sony and moved ty the Z6ii and i love the colors!! I LOVE NIKON !!
@valladares9045
@valladares9045 4 года назад
What about panasonic , are they out of your sight for 2020?
@DennisBloodnokPhotographyVideo
@DennisBloodnokPhotographyVideo 4 года назад
In many DPReview videos, we see Jordan giving very detailed and useful information regarding each individual camera's video settings and capabilities. In several DPReview videos, Jordan gives lots of very useful information with regards to how he edits / enhances / processes the videos in preparation for posting to RU-vid. What would be really useful (as so many RU-vidrs, including myself, shoot our content on iPhones) would be to see how Jordan would film/record a video for DPReview. Then how Jordan would edit and post-process the video in preparation for posting ?? This would certainly be a very useful video for many DPReview followers/subscribers.
@olesheim
@olesheim 4 года назад
I´ve used two of these cameras extensively, the Sony a7iii and Canon EOS R. I agree on everything that’s said in this video. But there’s some things not mentioned that I want to address. What I don’t like about the Sony cameras is that dust very easily sticks to their sensors. In that regard the shutter mechanism of Canon EOS R is brilliant. Not so brilliant is that EOS R is prone to banding when using HDR software to get most out of the sensor bandwidth. I’m sorry to say that Sony a7iii feels very, very sluggish when it comes to user interface. I’ve started to count clicks when turning the shutter & aperture dial because visual response is so slow. The camera feel like an amateur camera with a premium sensor. For nature photography a7iii is great, but I’m often struggling with face colors. They lack some red, and it’s not easy to correct in post. My favorites in that regard is Canon and Olympus color. Sony and Panasonic is still not good enough. Fujifilm i have not tried. So I tend to work longer with Sony files in post to get them good. My last criticism about Sony a7iii is it’s continuous autofocus speed when shooting video. It’s not impressive because it often lags behind. Without doing a proper side by side test, I feel that Canon EOS R does better. Also EOS 1Dx ii was better keeping focus when running both cameras on the same dolly closing up to a persons face. Maybe some tweaking of settings may improve this. Settings were default on both Sony and Canon cameras. Anyway, I find both Sony a7iii and Canon EOS R promising, but I’m not satisfied yet.
@kennethsanta4668
@kennethsanta4668 4 года назад
I’m between these two cameras and I don’t know which one to get Im a artist and producer and I need a camera to start taking pics more professional and start doing music videos. ¿Witch one I should get?
@brianpark2564
@brianpark2564 4 года назад
the 1dx ii is a completely different bracket of cameras, in which case you can compare the a7riv or a9
@MrRaduso
@MrRaduso 4 года назад
As I read this, you have interesting experiences. I use canon dslr and I am considering switching to Canon RP mirrorless and I admire Tamron glasses as they are handy and affordable, but RF lenses are so expensive that I can't imagine owning them. Can you recommend any other combination? I don't want to get used to Sony and its control - bad ergonomics ... I saw Nikon z6 + Z lenses in action and it worked perfectly so I don't know what to do....
@andytee88
@andytee88 4 года назад
ya'll need to stop it with the flip screen, it's not that big of a deal to most working photographers
@eduluizfilho99
@eduluizfilho99 4 года назад
How about the Lumix S1
@whirlpoodle2823
@whirlpoodle2823 4 года назад
A few thoughts on the Nikon-everything about the video quality completely floored me, from the color science, to the detail, to the continuous autofocus, to the excellent in-body stabilization. I loved it, I much preferred the image from it to the Panasonic GH4 and GH5 that I've used before, more three-dimensionality and dynamic range. It was leagues ahead of the Canon 5D II I used for years. Picture quality is likewise amazing, especially low light, which seemed ridiculously clean and detailed. The FTZ adapter, on the other hand, was a mixed bag. On the lenses that it worked with, I found I got significantly better performance than on the D600 or D800. There were a lot of lenses that didn't work, though-older Sigmas, AF-D lenses of course, and crop sensor lenses with full-sensor coverage like the 35mm f/1.8 and the 10-20mm f/4-5.6 force you to use DX crop, unlike with FF DSLRs. I found the lenses I had depended on most, were not supported, meaning the $1800 I paid for the camera would need to double to get the lenses I would need. Also, because of the huge difference in flange distance and mount diameter, the FTZ adapter looked like a spaceship, and all of the F lenses looked silly and felt somewhat unbalanced on the Z6. So, I sent it back after two weeks, with many regrets. Now that the Fringer and Techart Canon EF-Nikon Z adapters have come out, I would seriously consider switching over again to the Z system and adapting Canon glass...
@winchesterzhang9642
@winchesterzhang9642 4 года назад
Half a year ago, I bought the Nikon Z6 standard suit. Now I have taken a lot of photos. Recently, I am waiting for the 70-200 new lens to be sold
@cdwesternhorse797
@cdwesternhorse797 4 года назад
Flippy screens vs. fully articulated is 100% a question of personal preference. Personally ? I ditched the (otherwise really neat) EOS RP because of the articulated screen, and will never buy again anything BUT a tilt LCD, which are way better for still, imo ;)
@Noriuslephotographe
@Noriuslephotographe 4 года назад
Hey guy's the ftz adaptor ...it works with all my lens, including the 1 st gen of nikon 70-200 f/2.8 all my sigmas...and even older sigmas like the 17-50mm f/2.8 also tokina works with them, so it isn
@pbasswil
@pbasswil 4 года назад
Did they even mention IBIS? For some people & some purposes, it's mighty important.
@TheG7thcapo
@TheG7thcapo 4 года назад
All these are great cameras. Its just a matter of preference. In my 11 yrs of photography, i agreed what others always say. Its the person who is making the picture.
@faisalghiar
@faisalghiar 4 года назад
One thing is incorrect both Canon and Nikon Lenses offer way more than choices that Sony don’t even come close neither quality or quantity every Sony user has been adapting canon lenses for the longest and Nikon has some of the best class just use FTZ adapter Period plus all third party Manufacturer’s make lenses for canon and Nikon just use adapter I guess you forgot people have been using Canon EF mount Sigma 18-35 since it’s inception no one complained than,keeping on saying Sony has more lens choice is an incorrect statement
@antoniom.p1902
@antoniom.p1902 4 года назад
Great video. I agree with you but there os something you hace missed, which is the water sealing, and if you have a Sony you should be worried about it.
@ThoughtFission
@ThoughtFission 4 года назад
As good as the Sony is, I can't get past the color. Who wants to always correct in post? Should be right, straight out of the camera.
@logitech4873
@logitech4873 4 года назад
The colour *IS* right. It's just that you prefer a certain bias in how the colour is processed. There's several colour profiles to pick from, but why would you get a full-frame camera and shoot JPEG.
@bala1000mina
@bala1000mina 5 месяцев назад
Very helpful and informative comparative review! Thank you so much!
@mainmain5303
@mainmain5303 4 года назад
Nikon image quality is better than Sony period. This video is finally still merely an autofocus test.
@anulearntech
@anulearntech 4 года назад
Nikon causes banding in photos. But Yes in video, 10 bit will create better results.
@mainmain5303
@mainmain5303 4 года назад
anu l Have you used a Z6? All mirrorless produce banding to diff degrees, especially in electronic shutter. I pull up shadows aggressively. Never faced a problem. So the banding is in very rare cases which can be easily avoided. But Zombie skin colour can’t be avoided and you can edit skin ONLY TO SOME EXTENT or else it loses its organic feel. So no, Sony’s behind in skin tones.
@mneedes2
@mneedes2 4 года назад
@@anulearntech This banding requires use of 100 ISO and shadows pushed up 6 stops. So if your goal is to take a shitty photo, its all yours !
@JeffDvrx
@JeffDvrx 4 года назад
I was listening to jared polin's podcast while doing something, saw this and went OH YES
@creamesoda79
@creamesoda79 4 года назад
_"I was listening to jared polin's podcast"._ Gosh, they've really stepped it up from waterboarding at Guantanamo. Stay strong.
@JeffDvrx
@JeffDvrx 4 года назад
@@creamesoda79 lol he can be a little (extremely at times) irritating, but the podcasts are way more laid back. Plus he's on with other people, which makes it better. I don't usually listen to them, but I was looking for something to run on the background and it just popped up. The last one (which is the one I was listening to) is actually quite entertaining, check it out! Might find a not-so-infuriating side to mr Polin haha Edit: you're subscribed to FilmCow extra! Have you seen the daily stream? The Video Game valley? That thing is freaking amazing haha
@12macevedo
@12macevedo 4 года назад
I have been watching this channel a lot recently and it makes me seriously convinced that Canadians don’t ever see the sun. Ever.
@mikepawlikguitar
@mikepawlikguitar 3 года назад
I see where you're coming from. But Calgary is one of the sunniest cities in the world with one of the highest average days of sun
@anthonysamra7777
@anthonysamra7777 3 года назад
I really appreciate you guys. You do all the heavy lifting and make purchases a no brainer !
@ministrinity2830
@ministrinity2830 4 года назад
I used to shoot Fujifilm. And every time a new camera from Fuji comes up I feel the need to upgrade. Ever since getting a Sony a7 iii since launch, I’ve never felt the urge in the past years to ever upgrade bodies. The camera nails shots effortlessly and that’s all that matters!
@Avto28
@Avto28 4 года назад
By all means test Canon for a tricky high dynamic range situation landscape portrait and criticize it for not being up to par in reality no one should be shooting that image without a proper graduated filter. And the image quality these days is most depended on the quality of lenses rather than minor differences in sensor performance. If you are specialized enough to need that extra capabilities of the sensor you probably aren't watching this video to decide which camera to buy.
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 2 года назад
I have the Z6. Love it. Just bought the Z50 to go with it. I love they use the same mount on all their mirrorless. Slapped the 50 1.8 right on the Z50 and the shots looked great.
@jeremyjs8863
@jeremyjs8863 4 года назад
Great content choice. Very cool to come back post firmware. Excellent
@Tech1Tv
@Tech1Tv 4 года назад
Good video. I'm thinking about getting a Canon EOS R
@yashsooba9867
@yashsooba9867 4 года назад
Great choice. There's a slight crop in 4k recording but apart from that you're getting the best AF, best colors including dynamic range and skin tones and a great choice of Canon lenses.
@andrewszczplaylist
@andrewszczplaylist 4 года назад
Why haven't you also compared Panasonic system?
@madphotographer762
@madphotographer762 4 года назад
Panasonic Who?? Do they make cameras?
@sabryl4132
@sabryl4132 4 года назад
I’m very happy with my z6,,,
@madmanjoe
@madmanjoe 3 года назад
Everyone always complains about 4k video crop but for me, as someone who mainly uses video for macro, I find it to be a positive thing.
@3Dogs1CatandMore
@3Dogs1CatandMore 4 года назад
If you are a pro, using your camera everyday, yes, you will get used to Sony chaotic menu system. However, if you are an enhusiast/hobbyist, who only use camera occasionally, "continuous re-learning" of he menu system gets old after awhile. Sony camera might be most capable, but it's also most unpleasant to use.
@atomycal
@atomycal 4 года назад
Loved the video, but why is no body talking about the stupid 30min record limit?
@patrick.771
@patrick.771 4 года назад
Here in Europe the Eos R is the most expensive and the Z6 (by far) the lowest priced ...
@tallaganda83
@tallaganda83 4 года назад
In Australia the Nikon and Canon are roughly on par but the Nikon has some free stuff thrown in.
@Elgsdyr
@Elgsdyr 4 года назад
Well, not quite in Denmark. The a7III and the Z6 are about the same but the EOS R is significantly more expensive.
@turgayak2047
@turgayak2047 4 года назад
patrick771 I got the Z6 with 24-70 f4 and ftz Adapter for 1550€ and bought later on the sharpest 50 ty ever f1.8 for 335 everything under 2k. That isn’t beatable I think.
@patrick.771
@patrick.771 4 года назад
@@turgayak2047 congrats! :) I'm waiting for the next cashback to get the Z6 or A7III - depending on who gives me the better deal ... In November/December you could get the Z6+24-70 for 1850 € + the 50mm Z for 350€.
@patrick.771
@patrick.771 4 года назад
@@Elgsdyr That's possible... didn't check every country :) Only Amazon Austria/Germany, UK and France. Z6 Kit-Package there is similar to A7III but body alone is significantly cheaper. That huge difference between countries is a bit strange but manufacturers should know what they do ...
@tykimikk8605
@tykimikk8605 4 года назад
been a canon shooter..loved it but eos R rf mount expensive lenses and i dont really trust the adapter made me switch to sony. with the tamron trinity and sigma art. i want eos r but native glass options made me hesitate
@dillank3240
@dillank3240 4 года назад
The EOS adapters work flawlessly. Your fears are unfounded.
@billasserfelt1296
@billasserfelt1296 4 года назад
Handling - I dont agree on that point, if it's easy to use then it means the interface is spot on, usability above anything else, can't see how you can have Sony infront of a eos r makes absolutly no sense.
@eugenekhanin7471
@eugenekhanin7471 4 года назад
Agree - and if you happen to have large-ish hands, then only the Canon is comfortable for extended shooting
@FrankTaeger2021
@FrankTaeger2021 4 года назад
I agree with most, but if you look at comparisons, you will find that. The Sonys also have banding sometimes. Within two years i have not had a single Situation where banding came up and even simulations of a situation where it should come up were ultimately unsuccessful. It is a non-issue that after more than two years, has apparently not ruined anyone's shots so far. I don't get why it is still brought up.
@neal9677
@neal9677 4 года назад
It'd be great if you brought Lumix S1 into the battle but...great video! (And Z6 not Z7 in the title)
@fwiffo
@fwiffo 4 года назад
I guess it's fair to give the lens win to Sony because of third-party support, but it does understate the usefulness of the EF to RF adapter. A number of old EF lenses actually have *improved* autofocus performance when adapted, so you can take your time when upgrading to the new stuff. Older, difficult lenses like the 85 f/1.2 and 50 f/1.0 suddenly become more practical. You also have access to a bunch of specialty lenses that you couldn't otherwise, like the cinema lenses, the biggest big-whites, odd stuff like the MPE-65, and *seven* different tilt-shift options. And you've got the drop-in filters and a huge stable of inexpensive, third-party EF lenses, which also work great when adapted.
@RedpaX
@RedpaX 4 года назад
Nikon Z6 recording OMG 12 bit 4:2:2 ProResRAW, from full sensor this is ultimate feature!!!
@FATALiTYo
@FATALiTYo 4 года назад
Just bought the A7iii last week. Very solid camera for both photo and video.
@maharlikamirasol
@maharlikamirasol Год назад
This is great content even after 3 years. I am finally looking into upgrading and even shifting to a new system. I’ve been a Nikon user since film! And when the shift towards a dslr photo video combo came into being I decided to actually “downgrade”, choosing an entry level dslr (nikon d5300) and a few nikkor afs wide aperture lenses, selling the rest of my gears and never looked back. Until now. Looks like Nikon has improved a lot on the video side. But I am seriously considering Sony A series.
@Soda_Le_Moon
@Soda_Le_Moon 4 года назад
I bought the A7III only for the Zeiss 35mm. In Sony and Nikon systems, no small lenses. What a shame.
@MichaelLaing71
@MichaelLaing71 4 года назад
It's quite interesting (for me anyway), I preferred the Fujifilm X-H1 over the a7III, when it came out but the X-H1 tanked massively. I still don't regret getting the X-H1, over the a7III or the Nikon Z6/Z7, which were released a few month later and I still don't rate particularly highly because I don't particularly like the ergonomics. Overall, though I still haven't found a reason to buy a Nikon mirrorless body and my 8 year old, D800 does more than a good enough job, when it comes to photography.
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