Sony Keeps Making BAD Villain Movies - GUTTER SPACE 

There’s literally no excuse for Sony not to make a solo Big Wheel film now.

I’d be more interested in a Big Wheel vs The Wall movie since you could easily make that into a comedy about two assholes trying to one-up each other.

El Muerto is too mainstream. Wake me up when Sony makes a movie about the random civilian the venom symbiote bonded to for three panels right after it escaped the Baxter Building to go back to Peter.

When people first saw he was getting a movie I think about 99% of people were like "who's this guy"

I would genuinely love it if Sony just started doing a cinematic universe out of D-list villains. Fuck it, let’s have a Big Wheel movie. A Fly movie. Tarantula. Boomerang. Terrier. Gibbon. The possibilities are endless. The Lame Spider-Man Villains Universe.

What's annoying is there are obscure one-shot Spidey villains that can push a movie sans the web-head. 1) Hypertron: Booster Gold if he had Iron Man with a snarky OS. Fun buddy comedy. 2) Bloodshed: A super enforcer for the drug trade who wants to go legit. Nice redemption story. 3) Hardshell: Tech genius woman who wants to avenge her dead D-list villain husband. Girl power film.

I’m just hurt that now Z list characters can get a movie greenlit while more worthy characters get ignored

When I heard that Sony ok’d a El Muerto movie, I pulled out my forgotten copy of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man: Derailed and reread it. Not only was it a boring read, but the titular character was blander then a piece of cardboard. No wonder Sony sees potential in him, he’s such a nothing character that they could do anything with him.

The idea of an obscure character getting an adaptation (WHO ONLY EAS IN 2 ISSUES) does sound pretty cool since you can basically do anything you at least based of the little things we’ve got about him. However, it’s Sony and I can’t exactly trust them. Maybe if someone who’s into luchador stuff and all was making it, it would be awesome, but I highly doubt it.

There's even a better, actually-spider-themed, powerhouse, South American, obscure Spider-Man villain out there... the Black Tarantula. Seriously, that dude was dope in the late nineties and Spider-Girl and Ed Brubaker street-leveled him over in Daredevil for a more Hollywoodable backstory. But no, go with El Muerto, I'm sure it's gonna work out FINE.

I think Sony's reasoning for making an "El Muerto" movie must have been that they realized that comic book fans knew all the characters they were going to make a movie about, so they looked for a character that didn't even the most knowledgeable fans know, so they can't disappoint anyone with their movies.

Imagine at the end of El Muerto, all four people in theaters seeing a Big Wheel Cameo and he's next to get a movie 🤣

Wonder if Sony will make Insomniac include El Muerto in Spider-Man 2 as like a small side mission character just so the public and even a good percentage of comic book fans will have some awareness of him

Here's some of Spidey's villains that should have there own movie. Big Wheel, Carrion, Speed Demon, Jack O Lantern, And Slyde.

After watching The Batman, I’d love Matt Reeves to direct a Spider-man Noir movie. The setting, the tone, the characters, everything is such a unique take on the character that it would be a breath of fresh air with all the modern day depictions of Spider-man.

Sony continues to do what they do best, fuck up. Morbius is a joke of a film with a post credit scene that is more infuriating than fun. I would not be surprised if Sony continues to milk Spider-Man by making a Web-Man, Big-Wheel, or Kangaroo movie. They're probably thinking of making Joker style Skip Wescott movie.

I never imagined Bane to get his own standalone movie, especially not from Sony. No but seriously, why do they do this? Venom made sense at least, he's very popular, people wanted to see him be properly adapted and most importantly he actually has an identity outside of being a Spider-Man villain. Mobius was already pretty obscure and hiring Jared Leto is honestly a liability given that he seems to think that method acting means to be as obnoxious to work with as humanly possible. But El Muerto?? This guy was in *two* Issues, *two!* MJs new boyfriend Paul had more screen time than that. But maybe we are just all biased and Sony has truly revolutionized the character, making this movie The Spiderverse or the Heart of Ice for the guy.

The funniest part is that the Big Wheel is used by Overdrive at one point, who is on the Superior Foes team. Meaning Big Wheel is legitimately a better pick than El Muerto.

I wonder if Sony still plans on doing the Men in Black 21 Jumpstreet crossover they announced years ago. Also, you’re absolutely right about writers & animators not possibly not getting credited, happens a lot, unfortunately.

"If you were morbidly curious about Morbius,but found out it was more BS..." Nice one,sir! Top notch alliterative punmanship.

Sony won't stop until they make a movie about every single ancillary Spider-Man character. Big Wheel, Kangaroo, White Rabbit, Walrus, Spider-Cide, Joystick, Judas Traveler, Vermin, Hypno Hustler, Slyde..... your time has come.

One of the few comic storylines I own in full* is "The Child Within" from Spectacular Spider-Man. It stars Vermin, and also Harry's Green Goblin. I read it over and over again as a kid, and I'd love to see a movie on Vermin. *Really I owned the first 5 issues for most of my life and every single Christmas I asked my parents to somehow find the sixth and final issue. When they finally did it was legitimately the best Christmas I ever had.

We're one step closer to a The Wicked Wall adaptation. But seriously, if they wanted to reach a latino audience with a Spider-Man adjacent character why not Miguel O'Hara, or even Anya Corazon? (they owe us a proper adaptation of her after Spider-Man 2017).

I find it absolutely INSANE that we got a solo movie based on a character that only appeared in 2 issues BEFORE we got a solo movie about the green goblin. You could definitely make a solo movie about how Norman is going insane and killing people, but this?

I've got a better idea, let's give Slyde, the villain who used non-stick cooking spray to commit crimes, his own 140 minute movie (I'm joking)

Remember when we all thought an Aunt May movie was the most desperate move to make more Spider-man spin offs? Well Sony really wanted to show us that was not the bottom of the barrel of Spider-man spin off. The funniest things about this is that both Spider-verse and No Way Home pretty much gives them tons of movies they could make easy. Those 2 movies opened the general audiences to having different versions of the character. They could have a movie for Tobey Spidey, Andrew Spidey, and one movie on each of the Spider-people shown in Spider-verse instead of making them on characters most people have never heard of.

Screenwriter: "So I was wonder if maybe we can make a Spider-Girl movie? Based on the comics about Peter's daughter. Maybe we can have a new Green Goblin as the villain that looks like that 90s Unlimited series with giant claws and wings and red eyes? Make him different, more faster an athletic than the other Goblins. And We can actually embrace the colorful campy style of a classic comic book, play with the colors but we still have an emotional story of a teenage girl trying to make her father proud with her new gift as a coming of age, father/daughter relationship story. And at the end, Peter dies! May Parker knows what she must do and what Peter would want her to do; that's to be Spider-Girl, as we see his tomb is next to his aunt and uncle's tomb, she stands there and talks to Peters and tells him _"I will never let you down, dad... because you told that with great power, (tears up) comes great responsibility."_ The movie ends with the final swing like the Raimi films but it's in a first person POV. She swings to a large window were we see her reflection with her legs straighten to kick through the class, passing through the shards of glass, transitioning to black. So. What do you think..?" SONY: "*PPFF. Bitch please, we have a cinematic universe to build off of. Our next movie is a wrestler nobody heard of with a magic mask. He's the one who needs a franchise here. Get out!*"

Sony defo gonna make a movie about the ground that Gwen broke her back on next

To play devils advocate properties like peacemaker prove that no matter how obscure the character it can work with some good writing ahead of it. But considering if we are getting morbius, movies that basically just serve as a way to set up a universe without a real plan then I’ve got like no faith in this. Specially with all the other characters they could be tackling. (Specially if they wanted to hit a more Hispanic demographic).

If Sony wanted to give the Hispanics more representation....WHY NOT DO SCORPION???? He was played by Hispanic actor, Michael Mando in the mcu, who you may know was Vaas from Far Cry. Scorpion was heavily built upon in homecoming and they did NOTHING with him. Scorpion is also one of Spideys most well known villains AND has an intriguing backstory that could actually work as a movie. Have the premise be his og comic origin where he signs up for the scorpion project so he can make extra money since he's broke, but he gets trapped in his suit and blames Jameson (we can even get JK Simmoms to return as JJJ since he's already in the mcu). Have Alistair Smythe, another Spidey rogue, be the main villain who wants to weaponize scorpion and keep him as his tool. Also, DO NOT make Scorpion an anti-hero or good guy. In comics (and mcu) he's a remorseless psychopath. It would be amazing to actually see a truly evil protagonist for once, which Michael Mando can absolutely deliver.

I don't even think obscure comic book character movies are a bad idea for a movie sony just doesn't know how to make them interesting Guardians of the galaxy and The sucide squad proved it

Finally someone see the potential of a Spider-Girl movie or series! Make THAT HAPPEN

The Wall could get a whole trilogy of movies

Sony HAD to dig deep to even find out about El Muerto. You don't just stumble on a villain who appeared in 2 issues

Sony: "We have no idea what the hell we're doing."

I like how the first Hispanic marvel character in live action is not miles or Miguel O’Hara, but El Muerto.

Dude! A Superior Foes movie would be F🕸️ING AWESOME! You know what, screw it! I've been deciding what to read this evening you've helped me with that! Thanks man! I'll just bust out the old trades and give it a re-read.

Villians they should use: *literally any good villian from spiderman like green goblin,doc ock,electro,sandman,rhino and etc*

Imagine if it turns out El Muerto is a joke like the Hit-Monkey game and Bad Bunny is actually playing Spider-Man 2099.

The “Freak vs Phreak” idea got me good

XAVIER POSTED ON A FRIDAY LETS GOOOOO

God dammit I will be seeing Across the Spider-Verse at least twice in theaters just to do my part in animation being recognized as a legitimate story telling medium for people of all ages and demographics.

I find it so baffling that Hollywood keeps putting Jared Leto into everything. I get that he has like, a “cult”, but ever since his performance as Joker he’s been seen as nothing but a punchline by most people.

I really wanted that Hit Monkey game.

Can't wait for El Muerto's catchphrase, "Let's Muerto." I need a Big wheel movie PLSSS

When will Sony finally just give us what we all want? A movie about Alpha, the most widely known and loved Spider-Man supporting character.

Where's my god damn Skip Wescott movie Sony?

Sony better make a Frog Man movie.

There was a Spider-Man video about *The Wall,* so it wouldn’t be a surprise if Sony made a TV series from it. I mean, it started in *The Electric Company.*

I'm honestly surprised that Amy Pascal hasn't tried to convince Sony to give "Man-Killer" her own movie.

At this point I would’ve preferred an Aunt May prequel where she’s a C.I.A undercover agent if the alternative is El goddamn Muerto.

9:37 this aged like beautiful fine wine, my friend

I want the infamous DC comics villain to have his own move, trilogy, and video game. That villain being "The Conceptual CONDIMENT KING!"

I didn’t say it on the actual video because it just now hit me, but I’m legitimately happy for you getting to meet the Great Ashley Williams. You deserve it dude. Just a good kid making good honest content

I can't wait for Sony to make the Skip Westcott spin off I hope to god they don't

Sony is trolling us so bad.

Why can't they make a Superior Foes comedy movie? And if they can't have Spider-Man physically appear in it, just imply him existing or have him beat them off screen.

The Wall needs to get his own movie considering he is THE best spiderman villian.

This was a really great news video! Thankd

I'm disappointed Sony didn't gave the White Rabbit her own movie and instead we're getting discount Bane

Hope ur having a good day man

Whatever format this video is I really enjoyed you just updating everyone on what's happening in pop culture keep up the good work

Sony is only making these movies because they kind've have to in order to keep the Spider-Man rights out of the hands of one of their biggest rivals and reluctant partner Disney. Spider-Man and his rogues gallery is literally the only big IP they have in their entire catalogue. Maybe Ghostbusters, but that's being super generous after the controversy in 2016.

I’m convinced Bad Bunny showed up at Sony asking for the movie to be made since he loves wrestling and they just went “yeah sure”

When do we get our Slide movie?! Xavier has been waiting for so long!

How can they do characters that obscure and still be unaware of comics like the Deadly Foes (or Superior, since that's their most famous line-up), nothing better than a group of incompetent villains, they're Spider-Man rogues, but he doesn't even need to appear, it's great because it's the day to day of lovable B-C list criminals.

SONY will make a movie out of anything

After learning that Sony is going to make a movie about a Spider-man villain that dresses like a Mexican wrestler with a very uncreative name, that no one's ever heard of. I started to think to myself, is Sony purposely starting to waste millions of dollars on bad movies. They could've made a movie about a cooler and better known character. Like Doc Ock, or Vulture, or Rhino, or Scorpion, or even Green Goblin. But no, what a waist.

I actually really love your Mayday Parker spidergirl idea

How about a movie starring Mr. Zodiac, that memorable guy who can transform into the Zodiac signs? Get your tickets now! 😃

5:38 (and the other Deadpool panel shots): That’s me behind the laptop. 😀

Spider-Girl really does deserve her own movie or at least some attention in the mainstream media. I really liked those comics and it would be cool if they continue Sam Rami’s canon with her as NYC’s wall crawler. Now I’m getting excited for a good idea that probably will never happen 😔

Sony needs to make a movie on The Wall. His fight with Spider-man was the most emotionally invested I could ever be in a comic

Imagine wanting to make a Hispanic Protagonist Movie, and out of all of the ones you have, out of all of the ones people love, you decided to make a Movie for the one no one cared to remember. Lemme guess, the sequel will have him fight against Crusher Hogan and marry him, and we get Spider-Man down the line saying "did your husband give it to you?"

Sony had one hit and it immediately went to their heads.

Loved that intro! and the Barry Allen/Mera replacements!!! Great show!

I’m gonna be honest reset the DCEU just completely reset it and they can always have The Batman movies and Co be like multiverse stories

“Aye wayment, this isn’t the moon knight review” (also hope you feel better soon!)

I'm so hyped for El Muerto actually

Morbius cancelled everything with vampires? Goddamnit.

Would rather watch a comedy film about Boomerang. I know more about that guy that a fricking one-time only antagonist.

So, Obscure unheard spidey villians who appeared in two issues get a film, but Superior Spider-Man doesn't get a film or game where he isn't just an alternate skin?

11:28 THANK YOU!!!

After this movie, I'm expecting to get a movie of the Spider-Man villain, The Wall , in the near future.

10:31 Boy howdy that aged well

*He was in Narcos and dies unceremoniously, half off-screen.

SONY MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THE WALL OR I WILL EXPLODE

They did the "haha comic costume stupid" pretty recently in Hawkeye.

Sony need to Greenlight a _Styx & Stone_ movie. Starring Julian Richings and Alexander Ludwig.

SUPERMAN: *”A guy with a dope pickup truck! Except he IS the dope pickup truck!”*

My friend and I still waiting the Big Wheel Movie!

How many times did that brick wall guy show up i think we need an entire film octilogy exploring his character

They just confirmed the Xenophage as the main villain of the 3rd Venom movie 😅😅😅 Congrats for getting it right

Sony is that one person who keeps tripping on rakes over and over. “Morbius bombed. LET’S MAKE THINGS WORSE! 🙃”

Whats next a tarantula movie where he "stuns" people

Mobius also had multiple solo runs, team ups, and multiple appearances in other character comics besides Spidey. Like out of all Spidey villains he is one of the most disconnected from the Spider-Man himself.

Why Bad Bunny tho? I mean, i'm not saying he absolutely can't pull it off but as someone who grew up watching lucha libre, I can't picture him backflipping into another guy 6 feet below him or jump diving like a 80kg bullet into the opponent but of course, he is not going to be doing the stunts anyways, the guy can barely speak, he obviously can't handle more head trauma.

I think they don’t wanna make a movie that had to follow comic material since he’s obscure.

I would definitely see a Scrougue Mcduck/deadpool vs Darth Vader. It could be fun if it's not taken seriously. And essential could be done in universe with Howard the duck instead of Scrougue. Against a Mr sinister type villain. While making references to starwars and duck tales. If done it will probably work more for a series than a movie.

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