Sony & Sega Devkits and Test Systems - Show & Tell

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Devkits are a weird and wonderful world, expensive development and test systems which only rich developers have access to, until now. Alan brings to The Cave his collection of development systems for us to poke around in and enjoy.
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@RMCRetro 4 года назад

That's a lot of DevKits! If you could pick one which would you take? I'll distract Alan, you grab it! Neil - RMC

@supremerulah420 4 года назад

Gotta have em all. How long can you distract him? 😈

@plapbandit 4 года назад

That PS3 devkit is an absolute unit. Is there no way to extract that PS3_GAME data using a certain FTP server obtained from the usual places?

@monktoncrew 4 года назад

Where's the mighty PS TOOL? I nearly got my mits on one about 12 years ago!

@EsotericArctos 4 года назад

I think I'd like the Dreamcast if I had to choose. :)

@sandersliam 4 года назад

I want a shot of that awesome PS3 server. Owft!

@k001daddy 4 года назад

I had 2 PS3 dev kits and 2 Xbox 360 dev kits on my desk when I was working for EA Sports Central Online in Orlando, FL. I could build on my PC and push to one or both (for whichever platform) and test the game in online mode. If you ever used SportsWorld (avatar on bottom right) or the OnDemand News (ESPN) from within an EA Sports game on either platform in game years 2008-2010, that's my code. My name (THOMAS BERNAL) is in all the sports games (PS3 & X360) for those years.

@k001daddy 4 года назад

BTW I loved the X360 dev kit, hated the PS3. The Xbox 360 I could use Visual Studio to build, push, and remote debug. The PS3 had it's own remote debugger that sucked.

@akkudakkupl 4 года назад

EE E EEEEEEEEEEEE ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P1zFq4jLkJM.html

@KacKLaPPeN23 4 года назад

@@k001daddy Was ProDG also used for real PS3 debugging or is that just a thing that the homebrew community picked up?

@k001daddy 4 года назад

@@KacKLaPPeN23 OMG yes, that's what that was called. I hated it! Yeah, that was legit.

@pauliusgruodis137 4 года назад

guess those stories about devs hating ps3s are true

@ProjectGeek1 4 года назад

This is my 3rd time watching this. I can't stop. Dev kits are fascinating. It's like a peek into a world the consumers are not suppose to know!

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

That's awesome 😁

@fluffycritter 4 года назад

I worked at Sony on PS3-related software from 2007-2012, and I was so happy when the smaller devkits became available - I got rather tired of whacking my knee against the 2U rackmount one that I kept on the floor under my desk.

@alanhammerton 4 года назад

Thanks for being an awesome host Neil :) I've nearly got everything I need to repair the Katana unit and build a development PC to go with it, we must do a follow-up once it's working..who knows what we will find hidden on it.

@nrdesign1991 4 года назад

4:12 somehow that fumbling with the card, and giving up amused me more than it should have

@stiannobelisto573 4 года назад

😂 and how his face went from smiling to grumpy

@SamoScopom 4 года назад

and given up :D

@amras94 4 года назад

APP/PS3_GAME is basically the debug game folder. If you loaded something on that debug drive, it would show up in that folder just like a regular game

@Lucknutxbl 4 года назад

Also, even if nothing shows up on the system itself there could still be data there that can be recovered though, if the HDD is the original one that was used during development. I know people on ObscureGamers.com have had lots of luck recovering deleted game builds from PS3/Xbox devkits in the past, could be worth reading up on there, or asking about it in their Discord. *(For the best chance of it make sure not to do too much with the system though, like making new save data/user profiles/installing packages/etc, since that can easily overwrite any deleted builds)*

@sundhaug92 4 года назад

@@Lucknutxbl Yeah image the drive and look into what's in the image

@Regaljester75 4 года назад

Could that game be Playstation Home?

@boblowes 4 года назад

I used to leave my fat PS3 on almost constantly, so it could run that cell division screensaver that Sony included - it made for PS3 part of a distributed computing network that was specifically targeted toward helping find cures to certain cancers. Sadly, they removed that particular functionality after a few years. Wold love to see it brought back - but I suppose in an age where electronics corporations have to be increasingly conscious of the Co2 and Carbon emissions associated with their products, it's unlikely. :(

@RyanMan767 4 года назад

nope, that's still a thing! the same organization is alive and well. it's being utilized now more than ever actually. just not on PS3's anymore. -- it's called "Folding At Home" and you can install it to run on any Windows/Mac PC, or anything that runs Linux. - foldingathome.org computers are so powerful these days, it can do a lot of work in the background or on standby without even using that much power. but of course you can still look at the awesome visuals and control its usage however you want

@JaredConnell 4 года назад

@@RyanMan767 someone needs to integrate folding@home with a crypto coin so that crypto miners actually do something productive!

@stiannobelisto573 4 года назад

@@JaredConnell that is so true!

@hotchalupa 4 года назад

I remember leaving my PS3 on, as well, and feeling all proud that I was somehow helping the World... lol

@Natalietrans 2 года назад

@@RyanMan767 so if you could get your hands on a modded ps3 or one on a firmware with other os you could do this on a ps3

@TheRealBobHickman 4 года назад

I've used a lot of these dev kits over the years. The initial version of the heavy PS3 dev kit did not throttle back the fans at all, so it was deafeningly loud, we all moved them under the desks until there was an update some moths later. I think the most interesting dev kit I used was for the Gameboy Advance. Rev1 was a bare circuitboard with a screen on it, and it was super sensitive to static electricity. If someone even walked past your cube when you were developing, the whole thing would crash. Thankfully, they eventually release a rev2 dev kit than had the screen and controls in a regular GBA case with a ribbon cable attached. This one was a lot more stable.

@philipcorner574 4 года назад

I'd actually forgotten what the GBA devkit was like until you mentioned it! I used the rev2 kit to develop "Family Feud", one of my only released games (only released in USA). I also worked on several DS games, but to my dismay none were ever released, including the semi-legendary "Mean Girls", which was just... awful. It was a bad game.

@TheRealBobHickman 4 года назад

@@philipcorner574 Yeah, the rev 1 GBA devkit was horrible. They got it right with the DS one though, I worked on at least one unreleased DS game.

@CatWeazle21 4 года назад

Worst thing about those beast PS3 devkits was the USB ports. By the end of that console gen, don't think I saw a single one which hadn't broken off in some way. Bluetac was applied liberally to hold cables in place! :)

@Jamie-yp7qz 4 года назад

@@TheRealBobHickman Which game?

@Jamie-yp7qz 4 года назад

@@philipcorner574 Interesting point on Mean Girls DS. That game is considered lost media at this time, so any info on the game would be greatly appreciated. I know 505 developed it, why was it cancelled aside from the game's quality?

@CoreyKearney 4 года назад

The reason for Linux on the PS3 was a tariff dodge, with Linux it was classed as an pc and not a console, also the reason it banned from sale to embargoed countries. The PS3 Reference system is a 2U server chassis.

@pianokeyjoe 3 года назад

Sooo... no Linux on PS3 anymore? I want a PS3 for the LINUX! YELLOWDOG!! Weeeee!

@CoreyKearney 3 года назад

@@pianokeyjoe I sold mine when The update just removed the boot option but just left the partition there taking up space. I was just using it as a thin client for my media server at that point and tinkering. I was mad. I kick myself now it was a gen 1 ps3.

@vincentmuyo 3 года назад

Of course, that backfired a slightly when it was bought as a linux system and used by researchers because it was cheap for the hardware it had (which is a common console tactic - make the money back on games). Which is mentioned in the video, of course.

@xtr3mecoder 4 года назад

32:42 /app_home/PS3_GAME/ will start the HDD mounted game - similar as if you would click the disc button when a real BD-Game is inserted

@tc-bladeofgrass6719 4 года назад

Great video. I was in a video game bar in Tokyo and they have one of the dreamcast dev kits used to develop shenmue..... Also... I touched it

@JumpSuitAscended 4 года назад

That is a relic!

@Ezyasnos 4 года назад

Did you enjoy touching it? What did you experience?

@PatrickGoodspeed 4 года назад

I remember the PSP test units, never saw burned PSP discs. the only PSP discs I saw where the gold submission test discs for standards and final pass. They where always pressed.

@djsquarewave 4 года назад

I've got one of those blue PS1 debug stations! Picked it up from one of the Assembler guys in the aftermath of the Acclaim bankruptcy way back when, I think I paid about $90 for it? It's even still got an Acclaim asset tag on the bottom. :) Buddy of mine got one of the green ones at the same time. As it's multi-region it's still my go-to system for playing PS1 games even today.

@JumpSuitAscended 4 года назад

Thats Awesome!

@gunplaojisan7557 4 года назад

Between two the Green Debugstation is more desirable. If the game was programed without the patch to overcome the chipset error the game will crash on the Blue Debugstation since this one's designed to do so. :) From Acclaim bankrupt sale I bought the PS2TEST myself.

@djsquarewave 4 года назад

@@gunplaojisan7557 Neat! I knew there was a difference beyond the color but wasn't sure what it was. I haven't yet run into any retail games that won't run on it. I'd love to get one of those PS2TEST machines as well. One day...

@gunplaojisan7557 4 года назад

@@djsquarewave That was the point of Blue and Green Debugstations. Retail games must ran without crashing on both Debugstation before it could be mastered. :)

@Not-Great-at-Gaming 4 года назад

The PS2 "TEST" systems will not play (movie) DVDs.

@gehirnstaub8234 4 года назад

Oh man, I wish I would own the blue PS1 Testkit... My collection holds so far: • PS3 Testkit • 2x PS2 Testkit (Slim and Fat) • PS Vita Testkit

@CorporalDanLives 4 года назад

It's a pity that many of the new devkits require a whitelisted IP and have to "phone home" to actually function. Without a live account they're basically bricks :(

@JumpSuitAscended 4 года назад

@Ali Hendrickson Agreed. Right now I recently discovered a revival of Playstation Home, MAG, Socom: Confrontation. And other PSN Titles that have medius servers with Sony. If the Medius servers can get reverse engineered, they can comeback online and be use-able again!

@ShokaLion 4 года назад

The PS2 TOOL seems conspicuous by its absence in this collection. Does Alan have plans on trying to get his hands on one?

@gunplaojisan7557 4 года назад

don't think there's need to have one unless one is actually working on making PS2 games? :) Also it'd be far too big to carry around me think.

@markiemannie 2 года назад

Pretty hard to get supposedly, didn't Square Enix buy like every single functioning one they could get their hands on?

@xXBeefyDjXx 4 года назад

The Error you're getting when trying to access the directory on the PS3 Reference kit is fine. The directory is a shortcut to the root folder of the game you've currently loaded. If you had a blu-ray loaded or emulated it would allow you to access the game files and load the game using that shortcut.

@CNash85 4 года назад

That's right - sorry to disappoint anyone hoping for "hidden games" but it's just a shortcut, there's no game data there.

@JumpSuitAscended 4 года назад

upvote this so RetroManCave can see!

@technocody9296 4 года назад

@@CNash85 Correct, hard drive is not original. I remember original hard drive was Hgst, Toshiba or Hitachi. Sony never would use Seagate. So, during development, hard drive might have been removed or destroyed. Either upgrade because space is not sufficient for development console. As such GTA 5 couldn't install on 40 GB hard drive.

@robbystrange4772 3 года назад

attention collectors. Make sure you actually know what you're buying. ;)

@myagi20000 3 года назад

@@technocody9296 or Maxtor on their PS2 development kits/external drives

@Diggnuts 4 года назад

RMC : "It's a different beast.. all together". Everybody else : "It's a different beast".

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

Surely you can't be serious

@nickwallette6201 4 года назад

I can ...

@maike5307 4 года назад

@@RMCRetro I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.

@TommyAgramonSeth 4 года назад

I definitely did not expect an Airplane! reference here

@bloodypommelstudios7144 4 года назад

Mind blown that Ridge Racer fit in 2MB without audio.

@Antihelpful 4 года назад

I worked at studios during the PS2 and PS3 lifecycles. I remember someone dropping one of the server sized PS3 dev kits on the floor (there is a 1U version of the same kit, IIRC)... They were expensive and it did not go down well... But thats what happens at 4am and hitting crunch time of year! It made the biggest noise I had ever heard, this was in the old Psygnosis office... Looking back on those menus brings back so many good memories :) a few friends still have the Net Yaroze's and a few still have the PS3 FATs with regions free PS2's inside. The PS4 dev kit early revisions (before third party studios go a hold of them) had a reset button that accidentally bricked the device before they were patched... Good times... So many good launch day titles from first parties...

@thomasandrews9355 4 года назад

I actually own almost every one of these. I have a Katana, NDEV, Gamecube devtower, red wii, green wii, ps3 slim and phat devkit (has bonk brink of extinction on it), psp test and psp tool, ps2 test unit (wish i had a tool), xbox 360 prototype dev kits, couple prototype 360 controllers. Probably missing something here...just can't recall. Oh, right hah silly me, the two PS1 units plus the entire PS1 PC dev kit (PCI cards that go into a computer). Too think, this is nothing compared to some people :| Wish I had the PS3 stuff he has :(

@RetroDX 4 года назад

Fellow Dev Kit collector over here - this is what I have.... Game Cube GDEV, Game Boy Advance, Wii, XBOX DVT-4 with unreleased game on the HDD, PS2 TOOL, PSP, Vita, DSi and some weird SNES kit. Naturally I loved watching this video and am also a big fan of Fusion magazine too - its like this video was made just for me :)

@alritedave 4 года назад

Ahhhhh, Devil Dice!! My mom loved that game and I still have it! :)

@ricardobornman1698 4 года назад

LOL! Armored plated dev-kits. You'd think they are hiding something 😂

@mattierenton701 4 года назад

Did anyone else feel a slight pang of sadness when we found out that the Dreamcast dev kit was damaged in transit and now doesn’t work properly

@NeilGrevitt 4 года назад

Great video! I was working in games in the early 2000’s and we had a couple of the larger PS2 devkits with “Tool” on the side, they were massive!

@mcramp20 4 года назад

I loved you could play any CD while you played Ridge Racer!

@donpalmera 4 года назад

To be honest I've never understood why a lot of people buy these things. The majority of people that buy them don't code so have no real use for them and even if they did getting hold of the tools you need to drive these things/getting them working with the dongles etc is next to impossible. They'd probably be much better off donated to people working on MAME or something.

@alanhammerton 4 года назад

That is a fair comment, but almost all of the systems shown here could be used as a "normal" console. In fact, the Yaroze and the PS2 Test system were originally bought as a "legal" way to play imported Japanese games without the hassle of chipping a system. To my knowledge, there have been no leaked versions of the PS3 or PSP dev environments but the dev environment for the Katana is out in the wild along with setup guides. I've got the parts to repair it and period PC to run with it, so it could be used to make a real game.

@NathanChisholm041 4 года назад

Since when do you have to have a reason to want one? I don't code but would take one if offered.

@donpalmera 4 года назад

@@NathanChisholm041 What would you do with it? If it's just going on a shelf you might has well buy the same value in gold and stick that on a shelf.

@nickwallette6201 4 года назад

If the dev environments are gone to the winds, then they're not much use as anything but a weird region free console and collector's item anyway, so why not?

@ojmachine9545 4 года назад

in the psp dev kit i noticed a altera cyclone V. i wonder what the fpga was being used for.

@rado9292 4 года назад

That Dreamcast Katana- there was one at VCF West. It was a beautiful machine

@bargu 4 года назад

The leaked images of the PS5 that appeared not long ago, are actually dev kits, so they are not going away anytime soon :D

@TheGauges420 4 года назад

That is the actual console.

@plapbandit 4 года назад

The RidgeRacer less than 2mb thing is true, you could even swap out the game disc at the main menu for an audio cd of your choice and race to your own tunes! And boy did Sony annoy the airforce when they removed linux native support from the PS3. I feel sorry for the poor intern tasked with telling some grizzled General that his supercomputer wasn't working anymore, but worst case scenario they just might be able to have the worlds largest CoD4 LAN lobby

@xureality 4 года назад

@Dillon Sykes Actually, the "Condor Cluster" came online after Sony removed Other OS (Update 3.21 dropped in march 2010, Condor came online November 2010)

@Okurka. 4 года назад

@Dillon Sykes *HAVE

@Okurka. 4 года назад

@Dillon SykesThe average IQ there must be below 75.

@Lethaltail 4 года назад

I own one of the Air Force PS3 systems!

@Lethaltail 4 года назад

Technically, if you want a higher chance of recovering data from a PS3's disk, you don't power it on at all. Any deleted files will be slowly overwritten, and just the act of turning on the system can do it.

@JumpSuitAscended 4 года назад

@@Lethaltail Any PS3 Super Computer Data or did that get wiped?

@Lethaltail 4 года назад

@@JumpSuitAscended The system has a nice meaty "CERTIFICATION OF SYSTEM HARD DRIVE DISPOSITION" sticker covering half of the PlayStation 3 logo notifying that the hard drive (and it's bracket! damn you, Air Force!) was removed back in February of 2016.

@alynicholls3230 4 года назад

@@Lethaltail yeah but if it was running linux its on exploitable firmware so dont update, unless its hacked firmware.

@Lethaltail 4 года назад

@@alynicholls3230 I've left it on the firmware it ran for years, 2.52. Only way it's getting updated is if it ends up in someone else's hands. I'll haunt them. 100%.

@NonsensicalSpudz 4 года назад

£120 so its still in the price of a sony memory card then talking about you psvita and psp memory pro duo

@apierc1 4 года назад

Cream? Cream!? Surely it's grey!

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

😂 I totally missed I said that in editing. Yes Grey!

@apierc1 4 года назад

I very nearly got a ps1 for my birthday when it came out, my mum was on holiday visiting some relatives in Australia, I knew she wouldn't allow me to get a games console for my birthday (or I strongly believed that to be the case) so I badgered my dad and we trapsed around trying to find one but they were sold out everywhere. I eventually panicked and decided to get a Sega saturn as they were available and I feared my window of opportunity was closing. I have the one with the round grey power and reset buttons, I still love it but at the time it wasn't what I wanted, the PS1 seemed so much sexier. Funnily my mum ended knowing a guy in Belgium who worked for Sega and he gave us a free mega drive with some games and a free saturn so I also have the black elliptical button version too 🙂

@dangerotterisrea 4 года назад

I just recently played devil dice on my psx classic through one of the trueblue usb sticks, I have most of them now and a different emulator usb stick I got from China as well, any chance you would do a video about these things? I actually played thrill kill the unreleased playstation game for the first time on one yesterday, I'm impressed with what I paid although o understand it's shady. I lusted after a yaroze back in the day 😍

@jpjokela1 4 года назад

PS3's are NOT region free. It's just that majority of games don't have any restrictions for specific regions, BUT few games / demos have had regional restrictions, so it's proven that "the mechanism" exists and works. The console was definitely marketed (for games) as "region free", and that's probably the reason, the restrictions were applied very rarely. Obviously common DVD & BD video region restrictions apply too. Still remember when they decided to "just disable" the OtherOS functionality, without any kind of compensation. Local consumer agency "recommended" that Sony & the reseller should pay me 100 euros for the feature removal, which I'm still waiting for... :P Decided to stop buying new games, which I also did. And going to skip all current & future Sony consoles too.

@RobBulmahn 4 года назад

Did you just refer to the PS1 color as "cream"? I think you need to throw out whatever cream you own, because it's not supposed to be grey.

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

😂😂 yes Alans t-shirt was dazzling me sorry

@MarvMavro 4 года назад

This video is fantastic. Thank you for everything you do and all the effort that goes into your channel.

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

You are most welcome and thank you for taking the time to watch

@Bewefau 4 года назад

Square Enix still use's the dev kit for ps2 you should give it to them so they can keep making update for use people who still play final fantasy 11.

@TheFluffyFreak 3 года назад

We used to have the status lights on the front of the PS3 cycle back n' forth like a Cylons visor so you could tell if the game was still running. Also I bricked one of the first PSP devkits in the UK by flashing the wrong combination of firmwares (there were multiple) onto it 😁

@hicknopunk 4 года назад

All yaroze games were built like 1st gen games like....oh you mentioned Ridge Racer.

@Lagahan 4 года назад

28:00 wellllll my collection of YLODed fat PS3s would like to have a word...

@dvdkolk 4 года назад

"trick up our sleeve which we will reveal later". Going to guess Sega since it's in the title.

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

I would of gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky Zabulus

@dvdkolk 4 года назад

@@RMCRetro oh dammit, now I have to get a dog, a van and another guy and two girls to solve mysteries with. All your fault!

@stephenwhite506 4 года назад

We were told by Sony to take baseball bats to our PS2 dev and test kits and send photographic evidence that they had been destroyed.

@TheDarkHour684 Год назад

That's full on KGB style!

@markdavies794 4 года назад

Great video. Going old school I remember PDS being used on a PC where code could be written then downloaded to the Atari ST or Amiga. My friend coded a few games professionally and he and another employee wrote a homebrew version so we could write on an Atari ST/Falcon and send the executable to another ST or an Amiga. This saved time as we didn't have to write to floppy, transfer it to the target machine, reboot, etc. If the target machine crashed we had a debug screen saying where it had stopped and why. Unfortunately there was no feedback like PDS which took you to the line in your source that caused the crash.

@ZakHooiTM 4 года назад

The best way to read the Katana drive is to take it out of the devkit and attach it to a PC. Then make a byte for byte dump so anything on there (whether its deleted or not) can be recovered if nothing is overwritten Done that to my Devkit and got ToeJam & Earl 3 recovered that way. Of you need help, drop me a message

@jamesburke2759 4 года назад

Ive actually read most of the comments because this whole thing is interesting AF! you didnt show the vertical PSP UMD drive :( most people like the PS3 dev kit but I think sony might have missed the mark because the PSP dev kit is cute. If they released that unit as a low cost PC in 2004 running linux with wifi and ability to play UMD games and movies it would have sold heaps and made the UMD a more universal format. you could have used it to load up your walkman and play songs from your PSP games.

@jamescameron149 4 года назад

An interesting hobby. I haven't really heard of people collecting dev kits before. I love that rack-mount PS3. Pop it in a rack at work... SAN... VDI... PS3...

@condemnedd684 4 года назад

I have an interesting idea, what if you scanned the hard drive in Linux to see what data was on there but set to overwrite? I’m sure a lot of people know “when you delete something on a computer it isn’t entirely gone”, how much remnants of data is in that void?

@Casketkrusher_ 4 года назад

PS2 best memories for me. 2001 I will never forget the amazing games that came out that year.

@yjk_music 4 года назад

I really wish my desktop looked like that PS3 Ref one. It looks super cool.

@Karl_Kampfwagen 4 года назад

Send the HDD to a Drive Recovery expert, and have it cloned... Maybe to a SSD 🤷‍♂️

@devvynully 4 года назад

Is the PS3 pc style dev kit boot hard drive encrypted and locked like the retail ones are? Because I would hate to have to throw it out when the drive fails.

@SumeaBizarro 4 года назад

Rebug is very popular PS3 Custom Firmware that gives debug menu and some debug features to all PS3's - that can have a custom firmware installed on them.

@tomonabudget 4 года назад

I'd really love some footage of the debugging being done on these.

@deathmorphosis 4 года назад

「やろうぜ」does not mean "let's do it together", but "let's do it", meaning that 「ネットやろうぜ」 translates as "Let's do the 'net", 'net meaning Internet.....

@MarceloTezza 4 года назад

Not sure if the sound is too muffled or if it's the accent, but it was one of the most difficult videos to understand i have seen in a while.

@TheRetroByte 4 года назад

I had the same issue. Unusual for RMC. Thought it was just me 🤔

@TheRetroByte 4 года назад

These things look so cool. The National Videogame Museum have also got a bundle of Dev kits on display 👍

@sergioavl 4 года назад

Amazing video! That PS3 devkit is impressive....

@MD_Builds 4 года назад

My guess would be that the midi port was for music developing for the kit...

@dherrendoerfer 4 года назад

A few facts about the CELL Processor: It was made by the STIDC, the Sony, Toshiba, IBM design center. It was used in a number of supercomputers like the SuperMUC or RoadRunner. The PS3 clusters running on linux could not use the GPU, as access to that was restricted beyond the framebuffer. The supercomputers did not have a GPU, but instead used that bus to attach a second Cell CPU to the first. Lastly, the PS3 and the Cell Processor were export-restricted to some countries not for their computing power, but because they contained crypto IP that was considdered sensitive.

@danielson9579 4 года назад

Wouldn't it be nice if some people started using these machines again and started making some new games for old consoles I'd be interested in buying new games for my old consoles 🙂

@Spiderelectron 4 года назад

I have a full Net Yaroze devkit here! (In the UK) including cables, key card, discs, and manuals! I bought it from Sony around about year 2000 I think. Can't fully remember. I joined the offical sony newsgroups (yes we used news servers!) and developed some PC Serial comms software for Windows 95 which I called PSXComm. I remember some great community games, including a clone of Dr Robotnics Mean Bean Machine - but I can't rememebr what it was called! I also have the PS2 Linux Kit - an offical linux environment for PS2 which you could write games in. They were complicated!

@TheDarkHour684 Год назад

Neil, are you a cheese and pickle man, or a prawn cocktail man?

@MisterRorschach90 4 года назад

I don’t think you could understand how hard my jaw hit the floor when I saw that sega katana. I didn’t know that was a thing!!! I’ve had this dream of building an amstrad dream pc. Half 1999-2001ish gaming pc half Dreamcast or Naomi. But I could use that instead.

@argy111 4 года назад

I love Alan Hammerton, he's my hero!!! He truly is a lovely man A good friend

@shelby3822 4 года назад

Call me crazy but I wanna play Commander Keen on the PS3 dev kit

@PeTTs0n88 4 года назад

That Dreamcast devkit needs a trash to treasure journey!

@aretard7995 4 года назад

except it wasn't trash in the first place

@dwegmull 4 года назад

The PS2 had a large dev system before the test one came out. It was as big as the one for the PS3 but amazingly, it was shaped like PS2, thins and all!

@delboy3k1 4 года назад

Of all of them I would have either PSP dev kit or dreamcast. The dreamcast had a horrible drive lid and the ability to have a normal drive unit plus dev stuff would be fantastic.

@James-fm4lk 4 года назад

/app_home/PS3_GAME is actually something I've got on my PS3 as well-- I have a jailbroken PS3 Fat with CFW on it-- that specific directory requires you have a piece of software that loads a virtual game file up. In the case of PS3s with custom firmware, you need software like PS3ita. I think the PS3 dev kits would've come with some software that loaded game data into that directory for you.

@lolcat 4 года назад

It's actually to load whatever is mounted to that folder. in the case of a Devkit you'd push a compiled game to that folder to test it. but I'm not 100% sure on the details

@peteuk111 4 года назад

@@lolcat Yep. You have to use some software that comes with the PS3 SDK to transfer the game to the PS3 over LAN. Cant remember exactly, My PS3 that was converted to a debug died of YLOD a long time ago. The debug PS3 used an extra SPE (core) that was normaly disabled on a retail machine for the debugging features and causes them to run hotter if I remember right.

@sundhaug92 4 года назад

@@peteuk111 Sounds like they used the lower-yield 8-SPE CBE

@namakudamono 4 года назад

Interesting stuff! I did some game testing for a PSP title while living in Tokyo years ago, however I cannot recall if the test consoles had the cable pre-attached. What is the cool music from 37:10, by the way?

@spawnlink 4 года назад

The PCEngine dev system was pretty interesting. Very rare.

@richardkelsch3640 4 года назад

Interesting to see Alterra FPGA chips in the Sony dev systems. Actually pretty smart way of updating hardware behavior of actual machines as release time approaches. They just change the FPGA setup to match and they're off.

@inuyasha 4 года назад

I'm going to Japan it seems the people there are not interested in dev kits.

@MarkFixesStuff 4 года назад

I know where Alan lives... /puts on balaclava

@edgeeffect 4 года назад

Can anyone tell me more about "the era of terrible surface mount caps".

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

Here's some info for you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

@SkyCharger001 4 года назад

Idea: The midi ports on the Katana could be used to let it provide the metronome beat for the in-game music as it's being scored. (and govern game/music synchronization in other ways)

@theeggman4806 4 года назад

Fascinating.. RMC would love to see you do the restoration...

@pneptun 4 года назад

please take this as honest feedback of a regular viewer: I don't enjoy this format :-D I prefer the "documentary" approach. to be more specific - it's the dialog/interview element that distracts me and i just can't force myself to watch these episodes in their entirety... hope that didn't come across as all negative, i still really like this channel and will continue watching your videos! it's just an opinion of one viewer nothing more nothing less.

@RMCRetro 4 года назад

Hey Jan thanks for the feedback. I know that not all formats suit all people but I do like to treat the channel as a "channel" with a variety of formats within it. This helps to keep things fresh and also gives me variety when creating them. If you skip these ones and enjoy the documentary ones then I'm happy to have you along for those ones buddy

@meistarkus 4 года назад

Really cool Video! Thanks a lot!

@AnOfficialAndrewFloyd 4 года назад

Try finding the Atari Falcon030 or TT030 Dev Kit for the 64-bit Atari Jaguar.

@root42 4 года назад

Yup, the PS3 back then could run Linux and was indeed a VERY capable general purpose computer. NVIDIA would make this a bit obsolete with the advent of CUDA and general purpose GPU programming, but the PS3 had a nice run as a cheap super computer.

@ScottsGameAsylum 4 года назад

That was a cool video. That big boy ps3 dev kit speaks to me.

@maike5307 4 года назад

Just how massive are these heatsinks on the PS3 devkit‽

@NaokisRC 4 года назад

As Neil said, about similar to a Dell poweredge rack mount server. Even the PS3 ones are pretty hefty

@GeirEivindMork 4 года назад

"Be where you will squirt your code down onto a new IKEA executor...".. Watching this with the sound off and text on is a bit hard.

@DeathBaseTURBO 4 года назад

Devil dice, i remember seeing the trailer for it on a playstation station at the shopping centre, all it did was show preview of games to come out, about 10 buttons on the side of the container showing off 10 different trailers, Devil dice was one of them and i remember Mr Domino was another

@byJenniferrr 4 года назад

APP_HOME/PS3_GAME is where your Blu-ray drive games would go when your drive is set to hard drive. you would press that and it will boot into whatever game is on the hard drive.

@awesomeferret 4 года назад

Ooch, 120 pounds is a bit more than "a few extra pounds". I've gotten too many PS2s for free-20 USD recently to ever pay that much for a PS2 just to play multi region games.

@Neffers_UK 4 года назад

Dev kits just look cool. End of. Great vid Mr. RMC :) I wonder if the MIDI ports on the DC were used for an ad-hoc comms to emulate having a modem for online play etc. It'd be fast enough - 31250 bits per second, compared to the speeds we'd get get on a phone line back in those days.

@MobCat_ 4 года назад

/app_home/PS3_GAME/ is the virtual disk drive and you have to mount a game to that folder. then it would show up as a normal disk But yeah at first glance it looks wiped but you wont know till you hook it up to the ProDG Target Manager software on a pc and browse it's files from there

@mrratchet 4 года назад

Just to add - the PS3 DECHA00A Debug/Test unit is region free for PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility. The retail PS3 consoles are region locked for PS1/PS2 disc games.

@Dev_olution 4 года назад

Great video, really interesting, thanks

@iRDaBrit 4 года назад

I had a black ps1 given to me by Core Design a long time ago. Wish I never sold it.

@Foas 4 года назад

32:41 /app_home/PS3_GAME/ is for booting games remotely from the internet, with the Target Manager software you can specify your /app_home/ folder and throw a game in the folder