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It is said the Sopwith Triplane was once described as "a drunken flight of steps," to look at, however as a fighter it was anything but. Instead, it was a highly maneuverable fighter plane with a great rate of climb, making it a formidable dogfighter. On its appearance over the Western Front in early 1917 it was a match for any of the current German fighters, striking fear in the German high command. It caused so much concern that the German's issued their own requirement for a triplane resulting in the famous Fokker Dr.I Dreidecker.
Flown only by the Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS), the Sopwith Triplane would have only a brief service career before being replaced by the Sopwith Camel. Still, it proved to be one of the best fighters of the First World War.
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00:00 - 1:00 - The Design
1:00 - 1:33 - The Prototype
1:33 - 1:54 - Characteristics
1:54 - 2:13 - Combat Trials
2:13 - 3:08 - Into Service
3:08 - 3:35 - RFC and RNAS Agreement
3:35 - 3:58 - Dogfighting
3:58 - 4:29 - B Flight
4:29 - 5:12 - Replacement
5:12 - 5:36 - Exports
5:36 - 6:19 - Production & Survivors
6:19 - 6:46 - Conclusion
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@petewood2350
@petewood2350 Год назад
There is a very good interview with Tom Sopwith from the late 70s early 80s, worth watching.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
I'll have to check it out. By what I've read he is a very interesting man. Thanks for the recommendation 👍✈️
@joeschenk8400
@joeschenk8400 Год назад
Another favorite and important aircraft...thanks!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Awesome 👍✈️
@EffequalsMA
@EffequalsMA Год назад
Love the App with Triplane, Pup and 1-1/2 Strutter. Great planes each.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
They were indeed 👍✈️
@philipdove6987
@philipdove6987 Год назад
The Sopwith triplane at the Shuttleworth collection in the UK is a genuine one although built in the 60s,70s and 80s. Tom Sopwith himself saw it and declared it to be a genuine Sopwith triplane!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
I didn't know that Tom Sopwith said that. Quite amazing and must be a great compliment to those that put in all the hardwork to get it flying 👍👍
@philiphumphrey1548
@philiphumphrey1548 Год назад
Very good. I suppose the main drawback was three wings equals more drag than two, so what is gained in ability to climb fast and turn in a tight circle is paid for in less speed.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Thanks 👍✈️ I know that speed was an issue with the Fokker Triplane, however while researching I didn't find this to be a significant issue for the Sopwith Triplane. The German Albatrosses were faster in a diver, but in normal flight it doesn't seem to be a massive drawback.
@JamesAlexander14
@JamesAlexander14 Год назад
Speed isn’t always the answer in close quarters dogfighting. Manoeuvrability, is the key. If you can outfly your opponent and sit on his tail, then the battle is one. That drag can contribute to that manoeuvrability, whereas speed can only get you back to base faster and use more fuel.
@philiphumphrey1548
@philiphumphrey1548 Год назад
@@JamesAlexander14 While that is true, in the Pacific in the second world war the Americans had the problem that none of their fighters was a match for the A6M Zero at slow and close quarters dog fighting. So they avoided getting into that situation, they could use the superior speed of Hellcats or Corsairs to run "boom and zoom" passes at the Zeros without slowing down enough to get tangled in a turning match.
@grizwoldphantasia5005
@grizwoldphantasia5005 Год назад
@@JamesAlexander14 Speed lets you choose when to fight and when to flee.
@barrierodliffe4155
@barrierodliffe4155 Год назад
@@grizwoldphantasia5005 Maybe but speed doesn't always work, take the Me 262, faster than a Spitfire but the Me 262 never shot down a single Spitfire while Spitfires did shoot down Me 262's. The Sopwith Triplane was quite successful and copied by Fokker but the Triplane was replaced by the Camel, both outclassed the Fokker Triplane.
@peregrinemccauley5010
@peregrinemccauley5010 Год назад
British is Best . Englishman Stringfellow, actually designed and built a quarter size Triplane with flaps, ailerons, landing gear etc, in the 1860's . He designed and a comparable Biplane and Monoplane as well. They all flew, albeit sluggishly, hampered by low horsepower steam engines. A couple have survived and are in English museums today.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Ahh that's interesting I didn't know about that. In Australia we had Lawrence Hargreaves whose designs in the late 1800s were good gliders, but without a suitable engine available he wasn't able to achieve powered flight. However in the late 1900s early 2000s (can't remember the date) a group of uni students built a replica and got it to fly under its own power. Shows how engine development severely limited these early pioneers.
@MrPPCLI
@MrPPCLI Год назад
There's a reproduction of the Triplane at the Canadian Aviation and Space museum in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. I had the pleasure of seeing it quite a few years back...
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Nice, that would have been quite interesting to see. It is quite an interesting machine
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад
It may be spelt Clerget, but the French want it pronounced Cler-Jay.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Ah yes that make sense. Thanks for the pickup. 👍✈️
@asic45
@asic45 Год назад
Very interesting - thanks !
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Thanks 👍✈️
@richarddixon7276
@richarddixon7276 Год назад
Thanks for another informative video , enjoyable as always . Happy New Year ,here's hoping for clearer skies and soaring subscribers in 2023. Catch You next episode .
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Thank you 👍✈️ Likewise, all the best for 2023
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 Год назад
I like the sturdy struts. I bet it could turn on a sixpence. Can't wait for Airbus to reinvent the triplane concept...one could be airborn before leaving the apron.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
It's maneuverability sure was one of its biggest strengths in combat. This was also the case with the Fokker Triplane. That would be very interesting to see and who knows what they'll do next 👍✈️
@ianmorris4922
@ianmorris4922 11 месяцев назад
2:38;2 strikes and you're out! It's pronounced 'Clerjé' m8. Lovely vid of a lovely aircraft,cheers😊
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 10 месяцев назад
Apologies. I do try my best to get it correct, but I do struggle with some of the names. Thanks for correction. Thank you 👍✈️
@ianmorris4922
@ianmorris4922 10 месяцев назад
@@AntiqueAirshow You are most welcome Tom,excellent channel imhaho.Thanks m8☮️🩵🖖♂️
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 10 месяцев назад
Thank you 👍✈@@ianmorris4922
@Flashman36175
@Flashman36175 10 месяцев назад
Thanks nice presentation. You informed me about why they made the second reduced size stabilizer. While I knew they started with the larger Pup size stabilizer and changed to the smaller one never knew why or when. They also went from a wicker seat of a Pup to a metal "armed" seat, oh though maybe all had the metal. Thanks.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, glad it was helpful. Yes I have read similar about the seating, but can't properly remember now the exact details around it 👍✈️
@ianbell5611
@ianbell5611 Год назад
Thank you Great video. Again I'vw learn't something. Cheers
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Thanks 👍✈️
@bernienufc3166
@bernienufc3166 Год назад
some great info there thank you
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Thank you 👍✈️
@glennandrews9688
@glennandrews9688 Год назад
Great thank you.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
Thank you 👍✈️
@philliprobinson7724
@philliprobinson7724 9 месяцев назад
Hi. Rigging the three wings to the correct angle of attack must have been a nightmare for fitters. I made a small rubber powered model triplane. It rises quickly, flies slowly, and has a glide angle of about 30 degrees. All that drag. Chocks away, P.R.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 9 месяцев назад
Very true, it wouldn't have been easy. I feel the third wing in general would make things generally more complicated. Nice, that's is very interesting 👍✈️
@philliprobinson7724
@philliprobinson7724 9 месяцев назад
@@AntiqueAirshow Hi Tomato Eins. I guess they were experimenting, theory is one thing, but trial-and-error empiricism usually wins the day. Complicated indeed! Six ailerons that go out of adjustment as wood expands and contracts. This is why the DH 82 Tiger Moth only had ailerons on the lower wings. The disadvantage of that is it effectively halves the size of the ailerons in relation to the wing area that must be pushed up or down. Everything is a "trade-off" Cheers, P.R.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 8 месяцев назад
@@philliprobinson7724 Yes that is very true. And sometimes theory doesn't hold up once released to the unpredictability of the real world. That is interesting, but yes it most certainly is
@philliprobinson7724
@philliprobinson7724 8 месяцев назад
@@AntiqueAirshow Hi. The wind tunnel was an effective way to weed out the "nearly flews". The first of those was built by the Wright Bros. Cheers, P.R.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 8 месяцев назад
@@philliprobinson7724 Indeed it was, and no doubt has been a valuable tool. I didn't know that, I'll have to have a look into it ✈👍
@edwardvincentbriones5062
@edwardvincentbriones5062 Год назад
Have you played Dogfight: The Great War by Rock Solid Arcade?
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
No I haven't. I'll have to check it out. I have played a little bit of Rise of Flight though
@edwardvincentbriones5062
@edwardvincentbriones5062 Год назад
@@AntiqueAirshow its a flash game, so youre forgiven
@650thunderbird5
@650thunderbird5 Год назад
👍🏻👍🏻
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
👍✈️
@BMA967
@BMA967 Год назад
it looks so fragile...
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Год назад
It sure does. Something about the triplane design makes it seem more fragile than a conventional biplane. Still, it held up very well in combat and was fully aerobatic 👍✈️
@MrDino1953
@MrDino1953 Год назад
Such a stupid idea for a plane. They already had terribly weak engines and adding more wings only increased the drag. It seems they had no grasp of the physics involved and just designed by intuition.
@Flashman36175
@Flashman36175 10 месяцев назад
It was better then the Sopwith Pup (a biplane) which it was based on (Though most Pups had a little less power). Higher aspect ratio wing (Span vs Cord) are much more efficient; it has a very small cord compared to the Pups, with the same span.. Visibility is also much better vs a biplane. At the time they did not think 120hp was a "terribly weak engine." Remember lift is drag. also compare the airfoils used by the British (thin low drag)compared to the Germans (thick high lift). I personally think it has a lot more parts so it would be harder to build and maintain. Most of the design of airplanes is based on materials,construction methods available and cost. In many cases, planes fell apart due to poor wood, wood bonding or other structure problems. As far as physics, well aeronautics still can not totally settle on really why a airfoil makes lift, maybe in another hundred years there will be agreement, if there are any people left.
@paulshubsachs4977
@paulshubsachs4977 9 месяцев назад
The idea was no more 'stupid' than nature's evolutionary adaptations. And Bentley's BR.2 version of the old Clerget design was as tough as it could be for the times. Please learn a little more respect for the pioneers who started the paths to our current 'grasp of the physics' lest we too will be seen as dinosaurs by some future breed of instant experts.
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