SoulCalibur/Tekken Shared Universe Timeline | A Line Through Time 

I think you kind of missed something important, in that Jack in Tekken 1 is stated to have been made in the former Soviet Union which would mean that Tekken 1 would have to take place after the Soviet Union dissolved which was in like 1991. So the events of the first game would have to have been in the 90s meaning that the Tekken Force raid in Tekken 4 would have been in 2015 (Christmas was on a Friday that year) and that the first Tekken Tournament would have been in 1993. (I'm no math major, but I think that math adds up) Regardless, this video was really well put together.

I'm okay with Tekken, Soul Calibur, and Street Fighter taking place in the same universe.

I think fighting game stories often overdo it when it comes to the plot. Not everything has to be an end of the world doomsday plot. All you need to do is emphasize character motivations in the backdrop of the tournament. Show us why they want to win so badly and why the tournament prize is so important to them. That's why fighting game stories are so compelling for the first one or two games then quickly get out of hand.

It's not a shared universe but it should be. They should have made a piece of Soul Edge related to the devil power or something, instead of Akuma.

I just wanna say that Tekken's story arc is how I wished a lot of other story arcs happened. But a lot of writers didn't have the balls to replace the main character or have the hero of the story become a villain. Soul Calibur even did the same thing for a bit and made an honest attempt in V to keep up with the torch passing... but they made shitty characters no one likes instead of someone like Jin.

The same day I decided to start playing Tekken 2 again I looked up this video and I love it.

I don't know I think BlazBlue did a good job with some character relationships.

Lars didn't beat Kaz, it was a stalemate. I agree that Tekken 6 and 7 story modes were a waste of time, btw. There isn't a really successful fighting game story mode at the moment.

Thanks for this. The entire Tekken story is wasted potential. I've thought so since I was 12.

Everything makes sense and fits perfectly.

I hate it when people try to make cameos come off as canon. Yes, I love cameos like the ones Mortal Kombat does, but that doesn't mean they are officially part of the plot, thus appear in multiple games for years. They are meant to be treats to enjoy, not fuck plots up.

You just listed all the events in chronological order. You didn't point to some connection between the two universes. There's nothing like the devil gene having anything to do with Soul Edge's dark and corrupting influence on an individual, which I only use as an example here. I don't claim they share a connection. This way, it's still just speculation whether the two stories take place in the same universe, or not.

Rite on pretty spot on in about few hrs I’m going to my beloved retro game store to get SC6 I’m really excited it looks promising in spite of it being a reboot timeline I have high hopes that it doesn’t go the MK 2011 route it seems like with the disappointment of SC5 they would have had no choice but to discontinue that continuity and perhaps when they get to the events of SC4 they altar the the events timeline or something with SC6 however not so much so as changing everything but going into more depth into the lore that we missed during SC and SC2 era that’s my speculation I guess. It’s pretty kool I personally didn’t mind later post Tekken 6 story myself the problem I see is that a debut introduction of characters like Kazumi or Jinpachi are seemingly significant characters you would expect to have been introudced early on in the franchise.

The best fighting game plot I’ve seen was “characters fight in tournament.” And that’s it. Lmao

Tekken 3 is based in 2010's and beyond is based further in the future just at the technology

Yay! 😃 Awesome video matey! ;) Now can you please tell me how and why you think Tekken is more popular than his younger brother Soul Calibur? 🤔 And it IS! 😃 Arcade Cloud did a video telling you everything about Tekken’s lore up to Tekken 6 but they did not for Soul Calibur, at least not yet! Lore, that tells you all about much more fandoms’ lores in just one minute.

Tactically Paul beat ogre and then Jin came in beat him again and killed him.

Oh btw since we know SC 1 to 5 do happen before 6 according to Cassandras story mode and Lidias Letter for her dlc promotion states 22nd of January o wpnder how much this holds up. Also dbg being canon makes no sense because the 16 to 18 year old Anna being an Tekken Force soldier makes no sense.

So. What do you think of Soulcalibur 6?

This will make a good movie universe.

Tekken 7 for sure wasted Akuma

Don't be lazy... GIVE US THE STREET FIGHTER/TEKKEN SHARED TIMELINE!!!

15:50 Tekken 7 Jin >>>>

I tend to look your vids why i do stuff like cooking, for no reason

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While we’re here, what’re your thoughts on Soul Calibur 6 so far? Assuming you’ve already played it.

U do realise that they dropped the deal with the devil shit right

great vid

Yoshimitsu is not the same Person its everytime antoher guy who names it yoshimitsu ^^ they so this to let the enemys think he is immortal (sry Bad english)

You still didn't say how or why the time lines cross is it because of the crust blades that jin and kazuya got thy power how what where I'm lost bro

Akuma in Tekken. Who hired the shitty fanfiction writer?

this was a waste of my time, doesn't explain how they are connected other than mentioning Yoshimitsu.

+The4thSnake Cool video man. Do you think sometime in the future, you could make a timeline for a Zero Escape and Danganronpa shared universe timeline. Since their both series made by Spike Chunsoft and the people behind those series influenced each other in making them, they could possibly be put in the same universe despite not sharing many similarities.

I don't think it neanderthal to think stories are secondary and even badly written in fighting games. Just my opinion but ho hum.

What if the devil gene is just a Soul Edge fragment embedded in the Mishima family genetic code, and Soul Calibur is embedded in the Kazama family's genetic code and that is the reason they are attracted to each other and why Jin is so powerful since he has both of their blood?

I can see the argument that story doesn't matter in a fighting game because the fighting system is the most important part of it. That being said, a good story can enhance the experience.

And then it turns out the "Devil Gene" is just an offbranch lineage of malfested from Soul Calibur. Also Zasalamels ending in four, noncanon, shows him reincarnate into the future, a nice opportunity for a crossover skit.

I'm still waiting for that Jun Kazama "Wasted Potential"

Soul Calibur's Yoahimitsu = Right-Handed Tekken's Yoshimitsu = Left-Handed

I always thought of Mitsurugi as an ancestor to the Mishima's, especially Heihachi. They both want powers they don't have, and despite all the misses, they still want to get it. Although in Heihachi's case he can't, because retcon.

Yoshimitsu doesn't name the sword after himself. Each successive wielder of the sword assumes the Yoshimitsu moniker because that's the name of the sword itself.

Fighting games stories our really confusing in my opinion

If you ever plan on revisiting the Soul Calibur series, a really interesting development occurred in Cassandra's Soul Chronicle. Read more for spoilers. The OG timeline's Cassandra actually ends up spat in the new timeline, malfested for whatever reason and fights the new timeline's Cassandra in a fit of insanity. She ends up sharing knowledge of her future to her past/alternate-past self, meaning that a whole bunch of stuff that happened to Sophie and the Alexandras may never happen in the new timeline thanks to Cass' intervention. It was also really sad to see the bubbly and energetic Cassandra reduced to a malfested swordswoman swinging her sword at anyone she deemed to be an obstacle in defending Sophie. It's unclear what happens to OG!Cass after this happens, literally vanishing. It's possible that in sharing the information to New!Cass, she back-to-the-futured herself out of existance, she simply died and dissipated like Nightmare in SCV's intro, or if the Astral Chaos took her back.

Where would we be without you to piece this all together? Perfectly concise and easily understandable. Another fantastic video.

Awesome video. Been looking forward to this one for a while. Can't wait to see what you think of SC6's story. I think it is just a retelling of past events and not some major alteration to the main canon besides the fact that is would take the of SC1 in the timeline but I am not too sure either since I haven't played the story yet. Also, I think Azazel is a being from the Astral Chaos considering in Tekken 6, he said that he is from a "higher plain of existence", plus, I think he is connected to Soul Edge. Either he is some sort of malfested being that is influenced by Soul Edge or is Soul Edge/Inferno that manifested into a new body that is somewhat similar to Night Terror (the first option is probably more likely) since how he is awaken is kind similar to how Soul Edge gets it's power, bloodshed and death and in the intro of Tekken 6, we see Azazel imprisoned with a bunch of crystals impaling Azazel which could possibly be crystals that came from Soul Calibur. I can talk about this crap for hours, I really love this shared universe theory.

Jun like a lot of women simply love their bad boys. :P

I'm that guy that will buy a fighting game for the story with not interest in getting competitively skilled. So Tekken, MK, and maybe even Soul Caliber after this video really appeal to me.

Remember when the Devil Gene was portrayed as more of a sepearate entity before the Hachijo retcon? I think it could be possible that the Devil Gene is basically the spirit of Soul Edge (Inferno) taking form once again, centuries later. I mean it makes sense considering the names "Devil" and "Inferno (meaning Hell)" have strong connotations with each other... Also I just wanna say that Jin and Siegfried are very similar characters. Both of them have internal struggles with their inner demons and both of them committed atrocities. Siegfried went through a redemption arc in III while Jin is likely gonna hvae the same treatment in Tekken 8.

After the release of SC6 and the Cassandra DLC, it finally reveals that we are in an altered timeline away from the one where SC5 ended, as Cassandra fought her corrupted SC4 counterpart after years of being trapped fighting in the void.

so akuma in tekken 7 is an alternate akuma, still, if so, that would mean street fighter and tekken's universe coexist in the same realm the difference is that lets say in the tekken franchise, major antagonists from other franchises who would have a big impact on the world and could involve heihachi and other tekken characters such as bison, seth, urien, gill and even rugal from the king of fighters franchise. but because tekken's story follows as is with it's own major antagonists we could say that in the world of tekken, something happened to bison to where he perished earlier at some point of he was just unsuccessful to where his organizational plan "shadaloo" failed for some reason along with the illuminati which didn't give rise either, with the entry with geese howard his existence in tekken and not play a big major role like he did in the fatal fury/king of fighters games could be some alteration where his brother and his brother's kids (terry bogard and andy bogard) died or was left irrelevant to geese to not trigger the main events from those games to where his role in tekken is more solo and smaller. however, with the appearance of akuma theres possibly a chance where ryu may still be alive or could be dead which could question akuma's purpose in living on. his involvement with kazumi where she saved him from "something" could be the result of him going insane with power perhaps while he was undergoing intense training or a certain fight with someone. though, with street fighter x tekken, it's also canon but takes place in an alternate time period where most major antagonists coexist all at once making a big uproar fighting each other cause of a "pandora's box" sent from ingrid - a character from the street fighter franchise. for the most part street fighter and tekken are connected but vary under major event differences to where some major antagonists don't play a big role that would have an effect on either franchise which makes them as a whole as JUST street fighter or JUST tekken.

Devil Jin is Soul Edge confirmed

The Devil Gen is Soul Edge. It makes too much sense and it fits perfectly.

Woah, I literally JUST subscribed to you with notifications on and this shows up. Good stuff!

Fighting games with stories tend to fall apart after the 5th/6th installments. Tekken 5 and MK Deadly Alliance/Deception are the best games from this time period. But after doing something new everything just falls apart, stories get unnecessarily complicated, characters are created and thrown into scenarios just for plot. And the timeline starts looking like a crazy straw until the inevitable reboot comes along to try and make sense of things which surprisingly doesn’t end up working (MK9). Instead of rebooting and changing a story; take the games that were restricted by technology and show us how they played out. Imagine actually seeing the actual Mortal Kombat/Tekken tournaments build up to the conclusion we know without a dumb plot change(Kung Lao, and every earth hero dying that isn’t Johnny Cage or Sonya Blade)

I love Tekken this guy is salty

So our soul caliber and tekken timelines connected

I didn't realize Soul Calibur and Tekken where connected cool

Huh, I always assumed the first two Tekkens took place in the respective years they were released with every other game following suite with the canonical time spans between installments. Never really took into account about the dates and what years they would actually take place in. I always liked the idea of both this and the Soul series taking place in the same universe, and I like seeing other people's takes on it, let's hope Tekken 8 has a somewhat competent story. Also is it wrong for me to think Jin's outfit in 7 looks kinda cool?

Wait! Akuma is in Tekken 7 and a big part of the Mishima story then wouldn’t that mean that Akuma was Street Fighting while he was waiting for Kazuya and Heihachi to get stronger? (No don’t give me there are two Akumas in different universes)

Hearing Snake describe Lars really makes you realise what a Gary Stu Lars is.

This video left me more confused than the theory of evolution. Also from the way to describe Namco fighting I'm guessing you dont think they're good.

that also means that Tekken and Soul calibur share multiverse with Tales multiverse ;)

No No No... you see, Kazuya isn't evil because he's father killed mother without knowing why and being thrown off moutain cliff and understandably was so enraged that he made a deal with a devil sending him in dark path... *He was just born evil plain simple* he was fated to be evil, there is no chance he would have been a good person or even hero.

Nice video, I've been a long time fan of both games despite the questionable story. On a side note, SC3 had the best soundtrack and "history beckons" is super nostalgic for me. SC4 wasn't as memorable but "gigantesque" was the best, I assume you think so too for putting it in.

I loved Tekken 1-4 but after that it felt like it all went down hill... I dont remember if it was 5 or 6 that I had... but I couldnt stand waiting 3minutes in a loading screen to have a 45second fight so ended up giving up on tekken completely. :'(

Hey since u do shared universes can you do maybe ubisoft (assassin creed, ghost recon, watch dogs far cry), rockstar ( gta bully rdr and la noire)or rareware( banjo, conker , grabbed by the ghoulies Donkey Kong country and sabreman) shared universes

Wait! if Soul Calibur And Tekken are connected, and going by the guest characters in almost every Soul Calibur game, then wouldn’t that mean Legend of Zelda, Spawn, Tales of Symphonia, Star Wars, God of War, Assassins Creed, Nier, Samurai Showdown, And Witcher takes place in the same universe as Tekken and Soul Calibur? (And No don’t give me the excuse the Akuma In Tekken is not the same Akuma from Street Fighter)

Kazuya has done less bad shit compared to Heichachi and Jin yet he's the bad guy?

Weren't Jun and Sophitia kicked out of Tekken and Soul Calibur because of the whole "Christmas Cake" phenomenon in Japan where they consider women passed the age of 25 to be too old for marriage or something? Not sure if that's just a rumor of sorts, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt.

For people who claimed that story doesn't matter, then I will bring my counter-argument. If story doesn't matter, then why game developers spend money and time in writing one?

Well, those franchisees were made by the same company (Bandai Namco) after all, so... yeah, it make sense

Zelda, Spawn, Star Wars, The Witcher, Gon, God of War, NiER, Assassin's Creed, Tales, Street Fighter, Xenosaga, Final Fantasy, The Walking Dead, Soulcalibur and Tekken all take place in the same universe. *_C A N O N ._*

Great video man. I've been tempted to get back into both of these games lately.

Looking forward to the followup as Tekken 8 got released.

Well during the Lidia promo event there was that one letter that was addressed to Lidia from Heihachi which has 21.01. As its date. And in Tekken 6 Zafina says that the war has being going on for 6 months.

Hey man I love jins Tekken 7 outfit.btw love the video

So you gonna review tekken 7 telling us why it's bad then doing wasted potential episode now you would fix it

So now this begs the question is soul edge's evil seed to blame for the azazel as a creature? Or the devil gene in general... what happened to the lizard folk or the orcs... did the undead die when soul edge was destroyed? if yes, why not the rest of the evil seed? If no where did they go? Is zasalamel still alive in tekken? What about Raphael the vamp? Is it possible for them to join the fight? I'd imagine they'd want to

Soooooo... Tekken 6 Wasted Plottential?

Good video. But kazuya making a deal with the devil was retconned. It's now literally just a gene passed down from kazumi and whoever else is in her bloodline. I quite like the thought that the devil gene has got some sort of link to soul edge.

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE REALISED IT!

Under night has a really promising story so far but it’s totally gonna go the blazblue route and become shit eventually

2:30 honestly jun going missing is complete bullshit,she's dead,I know Harada confirmed it but this is coming from the same guy who stated the original Kuma from tekken 1 and 2 went missing,wouldn't be surprised if harada said king 1 is missing or Armor king 1 never got killed by marduk in a bar brawl.

When he said heishrio mitsurugi was garbage I flipped

I think the reason fighting game stories suck is because the games try to tie in the stories with the rosters, which I personally hate. I want to see every possible matchup in a franchise whenever possible. They died in the story? Fine, they're dead. Why are they playable? GAMEPLAY!!! Shit, make them ghosts from Heaven, Hell, Valhalla, Hades, Xibalba, Field of Reeds, whatever it is. I just don't see why, unless they are unlikeable or can't make them work in a balanced way, much of a good reason to just not have them in a game.

I rather like to simply think that the Hachijo clan had some of its members be afflicted by the Malfested in Soul Calibur which after years forward progressing through the Tekken timeline has now been called the Devil Gene. Let me put my take is possible: Soul Calibur 6 since its the remake in a sense storywise has us following the tale about Soul Edge and Soul Calibur and as the time goes on with people going after Soul Edge for their own reasons be it conquest and all, once was destroyed, its fragments remains as some sort of beacon for disaster and may have left its residual to some people specifically the Hachijo clan, who was afflicted by said Malfestation residue left by Soul Edge and for years, after the Soul Calibur timeline, Heihachi is born. So on and so forth, Heihachi has thirst for world conquest and is denied to inherit the Mishima Zaibatsu and Heihachi staged a coup against Jinpachi after he married Kazumi who somewhere around the time had assisted Akuma maybe saving him from a near death experience or saved his life when he's dying and promised to Kazumi to honor Kazumi's request to have Heihachi and Kazuya killed. Time forward after the first Iron Fist Tournament, Kazuya met Jun Kazama and had a child and now said child is out for blood after Ogre hunted who supposedly killed Jun and went under training with Heihachi and so on so forth. As the "Devil Gene" awakened, it is essentially a reawakening of a fragment of Soul Edge's power that lay dormant within those who still have their bloodline affected by the Malfested, unleashed upon the world once again and presumably that Angel, is probably the race that we see within the Character Creation screen in Soul Calibur 6, who are angelic holy being who desired for peace. Currently, Yoshimitsu within the modern time Tekken hadn't been aware of the Soul Edge curse is still alive under a different brand that being the Devil Gene since it is best to assume that this modern time Yoshimitsu knows about the Soul Edge curse given that his clan has a deep history with said accursed sword. WIth Yoshimitsu unaware the heavy gravitational magnitude threat the Devil Gene posses as it happened last time in the Soul Calibur timeline, it is only a matter of time before Yoshimitsu has to take the mantle and step up to intervene against a curse well known by his clan and people.

I'm surprised warriors orichi 3 wasnt mentioned for Its cameo of sophita. It's set just after 4 as she was returning home to her child and portrays her quite well

I always thought tekken 3 took place around 2017

I'd love it if Jun comes back in T8 to stop Jin and Kazuya's fight. Briefly. She would be forced to pick a side or kill one of them. Or even a third option: she absorbs Jin and Kazuya's devils and she becomes an even bigger threat.

15:10 Because "Your Sunset" is clearly appropriate for descriptions of betrayal, revenge, devils, etc.

Cervantes is my main but ye utterly useless in the plot

You know I just made a comparison with both Soul Calibur and Tekken in the sense that they both have a bad point with Soulcalibur it was 4 and 5 mostly 5( seriously fuck that game for having Sophitia be killed off screen and fuck it for not having Cassandra pop-up in astral chaos to talk some sense into her stupid nephew) and for Tekken it was six and seven( now that I think about it 6 did felt like fanfiction horribly done fanfiction and 7 tried to make heihachi sympathetic...... great it's like when they try to make Gerald Robotnik sympathetic in Shadow the Hedgehog despite the fact that in Sonic Adventure 2 he tried to send the ark to kill everyone for the death of his granddaughter.) But the good news is at least Soulcalibur 6 is a reboot which means yay a lot of the old characters are back and fingers crossed if Cassandra is playable as DLC Maybe. I agree with you on fighting games can have a good story it's just they have to put in a lot of effort in order to get that and I think they did that with bloody Roar 2 and Guilty Gear X2 along with Guilty Gear XX accent core Plus because I would say those were pretty good stories. Great job with the video 4th Snake!

I need all fighting games to hire writers that actually no the story of the games and have played them. It seems like a lot of them start good then just say fuck the story let's just focus on the gameplay that's all that matters

If fighting games don't need stories then all the fighters should look identical and have the same fighting style. Because many beloved fighting game characters look and fight because of their story.

17:47 except tekken 4 writer he did a really great job with tekken 4 story and characters stories

I think the devil gene comes from soul edge

My prediction for tekken 8 Someone will take control of the zaibatsu

Sophitia didn't die, she was trapped in Orochi's world.

I think a perfect example of story didn't matter to their own Fighting Game is Virtua Fighter SEGA never bother making a story mode in any of their respective series why don't ask me I know there was an anime but that's about all I can remember.

The4thSnake it is in fact namco had confirmed that yoshimitsu in soul calibur is ancestor of tekken yoshimitsu so somewhere the SC characters descendants are running around in tekken timeline