Sound Devices MixPre-6 II One Year Later

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Sound Devices has led the location field recorder industry for many years. The Sound Devices MixPre-6 II is loaded with features for recording pro-level audio with a much smaller budget. Grab yourself a coffee (or a tea, if that’s what you’re into) and let’s get into it!
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0:22 - What Is 32-Bit Float?
1:06 - 1000 SUBS!
1:13 - Front I/O
2:32 - Left I/O
4:02 - Back I/O
4:45 - Right I/O
6:00 - Advanced Features
6:38 - Analog Limiters
7:05 - Wingman App
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@randyrektor 3 года назад

So much yet to cover! What do you want to know?

@silversulu 2 года назад

It would actually be useful to show how you gain stage & setup all the way into the camera. I keep clipping the heck out of my Sony A7S III (I'm in 24-bit on the mIxPre) and it requires cranking the MIxPre gain way way down...bit frustrating

@randyrektor 2 года назад

@@silversulu interesting! The 24-bit thing was the first question I had, but you should be good there. Have you tried turning down the preamps in the camera? Also curious to see if you have the same issue coming out of the headphone port or just the main. In the meantime, check out Curtis Judd’s channel. He has some great videos on setting up his MixPre with a GH5. Might help you out :)

@pitspeedtv 2 года назад

@@silversulu why are you taking a semi-pro audio recording device and outputting to a camera (Terrible audio handling)? The reason you are having the problems is because the MixPre II is outputting a line level signal…. and you are (For reasons that are completely foreign to me) putting them back in to (What I must assume) a microphone level input on the camera (which is garbage on the absolute best of days)…. so the input on your camera is 1 unit…. the output on your Mix Pre is 2 units….. that is why your camera audio is all screwed. Solution…. stop sending the Mix Pre II signal to your camera…... Route it, record it, and keep it away from your camera. You just spent how much on the Mix Pre II? Why are you sending it back to a camera?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

There are many reasons for wanting a copy of the signal inside the camera. I’ve done this many times as my camera accepts line level signals. Mainly for sync and easy editing. In my case the difference between audio recorded on the device and audio sent to my camera is negligible at best once it’s compressed by RU-vids codecs and uploaded. It’s one less thing to do in post. Also, for any type of doc style shooting, it’s common practice to send a line to a camera and use the device as a mixer, only recording the iso tracks as backups. You’re right that it’s likely an issue with line vs mic, but some cameras will allow you to bypass the preamps.

@pitspeedtv 2 года назад

@@randyrektor If your camera accepts line in… it is generally a cinema camera. Since SilverSulu is having the line-mic level problem, I assumed it was a DSLR. But my confusion remains, now for both of you. If you are shooting a doc style, and using it (I assume) predominantly for post syncing… why interconnect the devices? Dating back to the 1920’s we used video cues (clapper board) to sync the audio that was recorded separately. On higher end audio recording devices. The two never met, until editing (post). Nowadays, we run what is called “scratch audio” on the camera, and Production Audio on the recording device. Still separate… for good reason(s). Scratch is recorded inline with the video. But done so independently on the camera. The audio is recorded on a separate device, and kept separate. The scratch is almost always inline with the video (exceptions happen), but the quality is generally poor. We do it for syncing the Production Audio (enter the clap board). Now lets enter the problem Video Gear fails - The take is over (obviously) Audio Gear Fails - The take is not over, and we have a backup (redundant) recording that *maybe* the audio wizards in post can salvage. This only happens when the scratch audio is separate from the audio gear. Also… the audio and video on the scratch are happening at same time with no latency… so for all of it’s quality shortcomings…. it is in sync. Because it was processed at the same time, on the same device. When you plug in your “mixer” to your line in, and tell the camera to record the scratch audio from the line in… you better hope and pray that audio recorder works…. because you just eliminated your redundancy, never mind opened yourself up to potential latency… rendering your sync unreliable at the same time… on the best of days. The reasons you keep your audio and video separate, have nothing to do with codecs, youtube, or quality. It’s frame accurate sync, and redundancy. So I stand behind my initial response. I have no idea why you would want to interconnect your audio recorder to your video recorder. The two should only ever meet in Post. Enjoying the dialogue. Some important lessons for the inexperienced to read. @SilverSulu If you are hell bent on this signal path… an Attenuator Cable will solve the problem of high input levels. You are sending a 200% signal to the camera…. turning down the MixPre is turning it from 200% -> 110%. It’s called “Sending a Hot Signal” Hope this helps.

@DerekLamoureux 3 года назад

great video bud! also congrats on hitting 1000!

@randyrektor 3 года назад

Thanks man! Appreciate it :DD

@EmisiuneaLumina 2 года назад

Very helpful video, thank you!

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Thank you! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

@hypnosecoachinghombach7517 2 года назад

I've been using my MixPre 3II to make hypnosis recordings for my clients in the session. Depending on the topic, I sometimes scream into the mike. Although I record in 24bit, I haven't been able to clip. Even without 32bit the limiters are fantastic.

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Yea this is a great point. I don’t think people really get how massive 32-bit is. You could record a gunshot and whispering without changing levels. You’re totally right, the limiters are fantastic

@MP_Soundbox Год назад

Great vid, thanks!

@randyrektor Год назад

Thanks for watching :)

@petersundkvist5374 2 года назад

Nice review! Good to know that the 3.5 mm input does not override the xlr inputs (As it affortnetly does on my mixpre 3mk2. Some times I use Y split cable to get "several" inputs).

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Thanks for watching! That's interesting to know that you've found a workaround!

@rrwenzel 2 года назад

Very nice review !! Thank you! but I would miss information regarding the time code and how to set the time code with an external time code devices such as tentacle sync E?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Ahhh yes, great point. I have no experience with that, but I would check out Curtis Judd. He has a great deal of useful information on sync

@totoroutes5389 3 месяца назад

When will version 3 be released, with safety track and additional sd card slot and ios app gain control? All usb-C ports.

@randyrektor 3 месяца назад

I wonder if they’ll ever do that, or if they want to keep some distinct levels between their higher tier products. Safety tracks would be an easy firmware update I believe, but I’d love backup SD for sure!

@gurugamer8632 2 года назад

When was this model released?

@DarkPa1adin Год назад

for the unbalanced stereo 3.5mm out, is it in line level signal?

@changkeuncho8571 2 года назад

It was helpful. Watching from South Korea

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Thank you!!

@dragonstone6594 Год назад

What's the latency like in a DAW when you're using this as an audio interface on Windows with the ASIO drivers?

@ohio_dino Год назад

What i would love these products to do is record each input to its own file . Dimensionality given to the video using the sound.

@cuisined Год назад

Hi,. about the screw on top the mixpre that you need to dismount the whole system to get to it... Use a magnet...it works and it will come right up :) from experience.

@randyrektor Год назад

Ooooooooo this is such a great idea! Thanks for sharing :)

@musar03580 3 месяца назад

(6:45) Although constantly improving technology is making features once exclusively professional available in consumer goods, Sound Devices' MixPre units are standard equipment among industry professionals. These are not really consumer, or even prosumer, products. They are professional gear, now (thankfully) at a prosumer price point.

@ianpreece6391 Год назад

Hi great videos thanks! I want to use the Mixpre in a very basic way, knob controlling gain, only recording a single ISO track (stereo mix track not needed). All working fine apart from I can't listen back to the recording I've just made on CH1 through the headphones on playback? Am I missing something not selecting the right HP preset?

@randyrektor Год назад

Ooo solid question. I’m not totally sure of the answer, but I believe there’s a way to make sure the iso tracks are sent to headphones. Sounds like your playback may be looking for the LR track?

@chiribimchiribim 2 года назад

Hi Randy, thanks for your video. I am a bit confused regarding how many microphones can I connect and record on this device. It should be 6 right? but theres only 4 xlr and 1 aux/mic in. So if im not mistaken, only 5 microphones at once?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Hey Chris, you can connect 4 XLR combo jacks and you could rig the stereo return to record another two microphones from an external mixer (one left and one right). It’s definitely more of a 4-channel plus 2 USB returns. Hope this helps!

@neilmusician1143 3 года назад

Great review. I like to know how this field compare to Panasonic Professional XLR Audio Video Microphone Adaptor XLR1

@randyrektor 3 года назад

Thanks Neil! I'd love to get my hands on one of those for testing!

@LifeSurfingDude 2 года назад

Randy, those are interesting cons: 1. no safety channel for 24-bit recordings 2. No extra sd card slot for backup recording and 3. inconvenience of popping up the screw to mount the camera. thank you for the review!

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Thanks for watching. Hope it was helpful :)

@redslate 2 года назад

I think the understanding is that if you record in 32 bit, you don't need a 'safety channel.'

@donaldspaulding6973 6 месяцев назад

No digital I/O, no hirose connector and the sound is fine for speech but lousy for music. It sounds muddy compared to 7 and 8 series recorders.

@Southdakotaphoto 18 дней назад

You mention the unit has 1528 dB of dynamic range. In the specs, it shows A/D Converters:142 dB, D/A Converters: 115 of dynamic range. Where are you getting 1528 dB?

@randyrektor 18 дней назад

I got this data from a video on their website. It’s essentially 1500 available on a floating scale. The beauty of 32bit floating point.

@gurugamer8632 10 месяцев назад

Please could post link of the anker power bank to buy today for mixpre 6 ii

@randyrektor 10 месяцев назад

Replied to your other comment :)

@852foodie 2 года назад

Hi Randy, I am curious did you get the Noise Assist plugin for your Mixpre-6 ii?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

I didn’t get it. I am almost always recording in quiet spaces, so I haven’t had a need :p

@angelitojusay593 2 года назад

I can't seem to figure out how to link channels for stereo output. It only has ch 4 linked but I can't select other channels to link to stereo output. Any idea how I can do that?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

I believe you can link 1-2, 3-4, and 5-6. Visit all of the channels menus, on the second page, click “link”. I think you can only access that button on channels 2 4 and 6. Hope this helps

@mikenowacki9729 2 года назад

is there a new edition of this on the horizon? is now a good time to buy etc?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Interesting question. I know they updated their top of the line products last year or the year before. I don't see them updating it too soon, but you never know. I can't imagine how they could improve it, but I guess thats why I don't design products lol!

@baileypelkman 3 года назад

Those B roll shots though 🔥🔥🔥

@randyrektor 3 года назад

Thanks for letting me blackout the living room.

@wcsdiaries 2 года назад

@@randyrektor Would you recommend this for run and gun filmmaking or is it too big/bulky? I need a good recorder for weddings/wildlife shooting that can fit in my backpack.

@randyrektor 2 года назад

I’d pick either this or the Zoom F6. Both have 32-bit float recording which is a game changer for solo-shooters. Pros of the F6, 6 XLR/combo connectors, pros of the MixPre, better headphone amp (less fatiguing to listen to for long shoots), slightly better sounding preamps in my opinion. Both are packed with features! Also if you’re doing wildlife, 32-bit will be great because you’ll never set your gain wrong and miss a perfect moment 👌🏻👌🏻

@wcsdiaries 2 года назад

@@randyrektor for traveling what's the best battery solution would you say? Just getting a fat power bank and using that? or do double aas last long enough?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

I’ve got a video where I go through all of the powering options. I prefer two Lmount batteries in a sled, but it’s expensive. An external power brick can last well over a full day. Make sure it’s the right cable so you can get full functionality

@itachi__ Год назад

Hello from France ! Thanks for the video. Is there a solution to see if we are out of phase when recording?

@randyrektor Год назад

There are a couple of things you can do to test phase. First collapse your mix to mono, then toggle the phase on one of your inputs. Whichever way sounds 'better' is likely more in phase. Another thing you can do is check to see if your LR mix is acting as anticipated. If you have 2 signals coming in, but they are out of phase, when they are summed on the LR channel, the levels will be slightly lower. This may indicate phase issues, but the best bet is trusting your ears.

@itachi__ Год назад

@@randyrektor Thank you for this valuable advice my friend!

@randyrektor Год назад

Thanks for watching :)

@ahfimiwonawun 2 года назад

How do you record in mono on it?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

You can record each isolated (iso) channel in mono. You can also choose to record the stereo LR but you don’t need to

@hireality 3 года назад

Perhaps an upcoming comparison with the ZOOM F6? I assume you have used it since you mentioned it.

@randyrektor 3 года назад

I don’t have one on hand anymore, but I think that would be a really great video! Maybe I’ll have to hit up the rental shop :) thanks for the idea! 👌🏻

@newlifeeveryday1821 2 года назад

Do you have any idea how long the MixPre 6ii lasts when powered by a 20K powerbank with two mics attached ?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Hey, I literally JUST put out a video on this - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mLxzB4TBSnU.html Short answer is over 9h likely. I use a 7400mAh powerbank and I get 9h if I remember correctly :) hope this helps!

@ianpreece6391 Год назад

can you program the assignable button to power up/down the device? The main power switch looks awkward to get to when it's in the bag. A 'press and hold' to avoid accidentally switching it off would be perfect

@randyrektor Год назад

Ahhhhhh that would be really cool! I don't think that you can, but I totally get your point. It is a little awkward. I've always looked at it as a good thing that it's hard to accidentally bump. Maybe a firmware update would allow this though!

@ianpreece6391 Год назад

@@randyrektor yes better to be safe! Although I'm such a miser when it comes to using battery power unless just about to roll so I'm always switching on/off throughout the day :)

@randyrektor Год назад

Totally get that! People are claiming to get 14+ hours with Anker power banks, which is nuts! Some nice peace of mind though :)

@ianpreece6391 Год назад

@@randyrektor I'm looking into powerbanks for when my MixPre arrives but need to work out how I'm going to secure the USB cable and connector safely. It looks like a standard consumer connector with no locking ability so not sure how long it will last with constant abuse/ unplugging etc in the bag but good to know the AA+'s will kick in as back up if the USB gets accidentally pulled out

@randyrektor Год назад

@@ianpreece6391 Yes, I was just going to say that the AAs will jump in. Still, I totally agree, the standard USB seems lacklustre for a connection. I wonder if a chunky 90º would feel more stable?

@konradins 2 месяца назад

Hey, thanks for the great video! Part of why I just got the Mixpre 6 ii :) But now I have a question and was hoping someone can help me out with that: I want to operate in custom mode and keep gain in the "basic" setting. In that way I can use the knobs as ISO-Gains. But the problem is: I can not activate the limiters, when gain is set to "basic"-mode ... Anyone have an idea how to solve that? How can I use the limiters AND make use of the knobs as ISO-Gains? If I recall correctly, the mixpre 10 let me do that.

@randyrektor 2 месяца назад

Ahhhhhh interesting question. Hopefully someone has an answer. I’m not sure of a way to do that

@konradins 2 месяца назад

@@randyrektor ok, thanks anyways!

@crazyKurious 2 года назад

how do you connect this to a mac so that we can record 32 bit inside the daw, if at all

@randyrektor 2 года назад

SoundDevices has a few videos that cover that process 👊🏻👊🏻

@crazyKurious 2 года назад

@@randyrektor 👊

@qiancharles 2 года назад

you seemed to have mentioned that you would talk about the power options but you didn't. Power options seem to be a big issue for many. Thank you.

@randyrektor 2 года назад

I have several videos covering power options for the mix pre series 🙌🏻

@stephanes. 2 года назад

How did they measure 1528dB if the loudest sound is less ?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

They use math :)

@stephanes. 2 года назад

@@randyrektor yes so it’s theorical. But, well, these MixPre are so good, I wanna buy one absolutely! The MixPre 3 II, because I don’t need more

@gurugamer8632 2 года назад

Is this recorder better than Zoom H6 and how does it differ / compare?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

I’d like to do a full comparison some day. Here are the main differences. This device has some significant improvements over the H6. The F6 is much more of a comparison to this as they both have 6 inputs, 32-bit recording, removable media, timecode, professional power options, etc. The reason I went with Sound Devices is that their channels have analog limiters. This is a huge advantage when shooting in 24-bit. It doesn’t matter if you use 32-bit, but most production audio is shot in 24. Sound devices also has a history of making some of the best preamps for film and tv. Zoom is a budget consumer company trying to step up the latter. Sound devices also has much more flattering headphone amplifiers that are less fatiguing to listen to all day. There are a lot of differences but I’d look at the F6 if you want a better comparison.

@ethnicalbert 2 года назад

why you need limiters with 32bit float...? Just for a camera mix?

@randyrektor 2 года назад

It’s a solid question. So two part answer, you’re totally right about the camera mix. It still has to be mixed properly for your camera outputs. Secondly, nobody in the professional film/TV industry uses 32-bit. I understand this device isn’t geared for that industry, but not only does it create a second step to normalize in post, there is also arguably no need for 32-bit to record dialogue -literally ever. The human voice can’t possibly exceed the headroom of 24-bit. So to me, using 24 with limiters in case of extremely unforeseen circumstances (really loud laughter to clapping or something), this makes more sense. Especially because the MixPre has analog limiters which is unheard of at this price point. This means the limiting happens before conversion which is free of nasty digital clipping. Using 24 is one less step in post and already way more headroom than I’ll ever need. Hope this answers your question! You’re certainly right though, if you’re sending to camera, you really need to be carefully mixing

@ethnicalbert 2 года назад

@@randyrektor Hey, dialogue regularly exceeds the headroom at 24 bit. If the level is set for normal talking and then someone shouts/screams unexpectedly it will frequently clip even at 24bit. I am in the TV and Film sound industry and I record FX at 32bit when possible, but then pulling it into protools converts it to the project audio settings (48/24). But I take your workflow point for dialogues!

@randyrektor 2 года назад

Ahhh yes I totally see that use case for FX. Also, I think 32-bit will be useful for reality tv because of the unexpected nature, but my point about headroom is that if they’re setting levels and have a sound mixer on set, there should be no need for 32-bit for dialogue, they just have to set the gain appropriately and there will be no clipping. Great device for fx though, for sure!