South African Hip-Hop Pioneer Stogie T Freestyles, Talks ‘Honey & Pain' and Breaks Down The Culture 

He is not underrated... everyone knows him, everyone knows what he can do... it's only the kids who don't know him...

LYRICS- There ain't a French bottle we ain't pop, a fresh article we ain't cop benz top that we ain't drop, and dressed model we ain't knocked festival we ain't rocked, destined to be this hot, to the best of my knowledge, rest of the marriage - that's sayin a lot, but if you takin stock! and you don't save a spot for the forsaken lot! from the bakin hot land of the slavers doug! That's your prerogative, we polar opposites I'm from that continent of poverty and long-walk accomplishments Where former heroes give birth to spoilt rotten kids The opulent meet the poor cleanin their their offices We push rocket ships like Elon Musk, charged the whip but still stuck in sh** coz we don't got a pot to piss in. So G** forgives as you you give the church half your sh**! I'm buggin, still we can't tell a pastor from a pimp! it's Roman Catholic, it's Anglican, it's African tribes-men, migrants, sh** it's masked men kidnappin kids! I say South Africa you think Trevor, I think Nelson, it's half a parage you gettin mixed messages ey! I say Nigeria you think Fela (Kuti), I think Delta it's past and present it's blurry as an impression, and Sway, I put your certified hyenas in Elephant graves! I'm punchin way above the ceiling you set us the grade! This is the Red-letter day!! Show em how a vet is made!! last time somebody spit this fire.. David Blane These ready-made superstars with tattoos and scars and you think they can save face with a few bars! They lukewarm I'm in true form! 38 like Jordan in Utah*?* killin them with the flu shot!! Strus-G**, that means trust me! I'm nutty as RuPaul, but I wear out a p** like King Jaffe in New York, ?*what cud you do rump***???* When I promise you ought'a smoke I am so covin bro dis is Snoop Dog! This is the dairy of a mad man, who shud have been stamp champ, but I wrote above their heads like Anne Frank Fam, I'm a giant among ants, like the tyrant from Baghdad, whose sayn (Hussien) I can't hang on camera. Grew up on hammers, M-16 hammers! No dancers! Miss me with MC Hammer, I'm cool-G rap alumni, these my handlers! The cool fiend(Kufi) Nas from NY, jesus medallion! Reading Langston Hughes, el-Hajj Malik Shabazz en them, sh** In the pocket like the auto-borne assassin! They gon photograph an African prototype of a starving kid, but not show you the royal blue Aston Martin whip, it's complicated, and f** Vibranium educate em, we got ghettos to, and they orange juice concentrated! Bo Brady said be measured in your actions Give them honey and pain, happiness and the anguish Like when Tony got the flooded Roley and we called it hope For all the times the po-po had my folks against the ropes For all the times we drove a shawty out to Marie Stopes And all the ones we almost broke, but still be calling hoes They fall for men who end up teachin them the rope or dope / ropadope, these the broken homes we from. It ain't sweet like, its marijuana leaf highs, like maradona sniff white, strangled by a short leash, my mama hold her fist tight, tell a bigot he can suck and lick a piss pipe! coz we gon get that level up and win in this life! ey, I'm from the real South, Not the fried catfish killer-mic, I mean a township, real South, Where blacks go through hardship like around ?*ship flight*? it's bad sh** backwards for the wrong skin-type, and I am disliked but don't give too many f** When they set the bar, I look back and tell them where it was. This sh** ain't for everyone, second cousin and aunt takin a dump on our culture for a radio chart, ey bu I ain't mad at you might even dance to it, and half the world can watch me Thanos-snap to it. Rest in peace pro-kid Rest in peace HHP Rest in peace Zwelethu Bhadela Rest in peace Ben Sharper Stogie F***ing T

Trust us bruv, real heads don't underrate this man

K.O.T.D he lost hope in Canada duiring his battle with The Saurus because most of his lines were going over their heads.

You can not rate a GOD, stop it! Stogie is Hip Hop

i always come back to this may be twice a month 🔥

Anyday.

Such an important conversation. Articulate, factual and substantial. Tumi and this interview are super iconic.

I'm here

I come here when I wanna get goosebumps

Me

He puts certified hyenas in elephant graves

The chills...*wow*

Most underated comment EVER!!!!!

I love how we still call him Tumi even after he changed his rap name. All OGs know 😁 hehee I'm not South African, I'm a Zimbabwean from Bulawayo. I grew up listening to a lot of Hip hop (both African and American) And the fact that I speak Isindebele and a bit of Setswana so I understand S.A music.Houz music, Amapiano, Naija, Afropop, Pop or whatever, I just love music.

Period!!!!

And Khaligraph thinks he's the best in Africa

No Doubt!!! 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🦁🦁🦁🇰🇪🇳🇬🇺🇸

RespecK Brotherman.👊 I grew up fascinated with the history of Kenya and Mali especially at age 12! Peace 🇿🇦🇰🇪

@@andrewkubo4050 Stogie will rap circles around khaligraph

T is really endless like rooms of poems before a typical rap verse,on this one he was flexing to show the whole world that whats on tv is not “Thee”best south africa have to offer…

Still 2023 we can't get enough of it

its 2024 now@@mthokozisihlekwane5077

When you come to South Africa, come to joburg and I will show you a good time

@@16224 sup with you Zitha

@@16224 chill out

@@mfundogumede3592 what's wrong with you now

🙏

Yeah seems you been in caves man? Never heard of FIFA world cup in 2010 or Nelson Mandela, Charlize Theron, Elon Musk?

@@zamadladla826 I know some people from there but don't know much about the region in general. Only bits and pieces of its history from Trevor Noah's book he wrote a while back.

Zama Dladla he was just being honest that he doesn’t know much about SA. Please respect and appreciate honesty.

@@zamadladla826 said he doesn't know much about SA, never said he doesn't know those people.... Chill a bit dude

All i can say is....shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid. Best African representative on Sway by far. Having a proudly south african moment right now, leave me alone.

Yes geaaal

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Not that nonsense Casper spit

@Terps, he used to be called Tumi (of Tumi and The Volume)

Terps come on Nasty c tried.. the boy is good yes he is not in the same level as Tumi but he good

HE IS A SOUTH AFRICAN RAP VETERAN

But still don't buy his shit not to mention giving him the respect he deserves...... Instead Cassper z filling up the stadiums, and I am like what the fuck!!!?

we need Reason now!

Siboniso you're right

First of all , we don’t know this man. Why is he even on Black American radio.? Get out here.

@@kiasky1 *smdh* Well uhmm, 1st of all, I suggest you FIRMLY stick your Blatantly Benighted self to your Beyoncés & Rihannas sweet stuff, & leave the REAL Hip-Hop heads who authentically appreciate the Art, regardless where TF it comes from, to it... Secondly, Learn To Stay In Your Lane & S_ T_ F_ U!!! "Kind" Regards: South African Rappers®

Ohhhhh shit, he went in

kamogelo mothibe sheeesh 🔥🔥🔥

Hella fire right there

that line daaaaaamn

I wept there 😢

Awe!

Martin Ndhlovu Yea Mayng!!! We need that universal/ international Dopeness to balance a lot of this watered down bullshit here in the states. I still rock w my Crooked I (Kxng Crooked) Royce’s, Mick Jenkins, Dead Prez, Black Thoughts etc..... but the radio is KILLIN US!! 👎🏽👎🏽

@@Kitchywac Ahh man. Hard Luck bro, Africa gon' rise soon BRO, watch-out

@@Kitchywac I miss my days growing up... I would binge on Nas, Common, Rapsody, Jean Grae, T. Kweli when my peers were into Lil Wayne, 2 Chainz and Drake... Now it's even worse with rappers who sound like they crying on Autotune😂 But atleast there's Polo G, Phora, Mick Jenkins, Shane Eagle and STILL: Nas, Common, Rapsody!👑💜👌🇿🇦

when our radio's playing the same song the holl day i just come back to this art

No Doubt!!! 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸

Thank you Sway 🇿🇦👍👍

Sway must invite Mzekezeke at sway in the morning 🎤

@@fitwellramahlo6464 Nah, phola!

DJ Sbu

WELL SAID. WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONE

no doubt. Hiphop heads in the continent we were literally waiting on this. Kenya we here. TUMI ran with it how its supposed to be done manze.

*Didn't even look at the comment section till it was done. Amen*

Even Househeads were waiting on it.

@@kholomajazztic2334 😂i aint never heard of 'house heads' 😂😂

Its not a verse its a freestyle

Please note that Trevor is mixed!!!

😭

Half a parent

Yo!!! 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🦁🦁🇳🇬🇺🇸

Me Plz stop asking this crap

NO...YOU ACTUALLY LOVE DUMB QUESTION...for likes and comments...Internet retards always seeking for attention...There you have it!!!

AND TOYA!!!!! YOU PLAYED AND STILL PLAYING YOUR ROLL BIG SIS...MUCH LOVE TO YOU

I believe in you Sis...keep pushing the push

Much love T

Toya ukuphi

Toya Delazy I'm patient enough ..gon b waiting 4 t

That line is dope

That's how internetional media paint Africa

Tkay Sw6 no no no ... please let’s get our facts starlight. Boitumelo is a South African .. in fact he is Tanzanian born due to his parents being in exile at the time of his birth. He is a product 🇿🇦

I think you misunderstood.. This person is giving love from Zimbabwe ​@@babyKGee

you a GOD

I say South Africa you think Trevor, I think Nelson its Half a Parent you getting mixed messages Get it? Trevor? Half a parent? Mixed race? Hussain I can't hang on camera? Suddam Hussain was hanged live on camera, get it?

So much knowledge in these bars.

damn bro the best Emcee in SA

You da man!

HHP did it without Sway's help... Stogie can reach out himself and I believe GOD SON may consider it

Straight up stogie word play game be on steroids

Ooooooooh shiiiiiiit!

This line will still fly over many people's heads 😂🤷‍♂️

Best Line

MY MAN!!!

Antonia Reece is amazing.. we appreciate him out here in Tanzania

True Reece is the shit but i feel like sometimes he relax a lot i wish he could raise his bars higher so that people will stop sleeping on him

LOL! Reece? He is numb and thinking he is on Mars on that marijuana and you out here posting about him when he is seeing nothing but smoke.

Zama Dladla uyi hater indaba uReece wakudlela intombi???

@@zamadladla826 kahle nje.. ain't nobody told lil Wayne and all the other big names that they smoke a lot. Don't bash on reece just because he a stoner.

Too easy

Easy!!!!

Beast

Thanks man!!

Big ups to the big brother! Fire for real...

Mr Optimis aka Torch Kali🔥

Iviwe that is the same sh*t I get when I try to listen to Stogie T, this dude is my role model bro the only true MC who is not afraid for his reputation he we go to those battles like crazy.

Word for word mchana

Relebohile Nkosi written verse

@@boeta_raims it don't matter, Nasty, AKA, Kwesta, Nyovest all written verses. You seem to forget that part of being an MC is based on your writing skills.

@@boeta_raims which song?

They all sucked, Stogie T showed up, that shit was beautiful

they can't say anything bcoz they are in elephants grave yard someone must go and digg them out

Damn right

He has been keeping it real and fresh for years now!Nobody can reach his heights...the real Ol' G African rapper!!

Brought him out in 2012 and people were wondering who he was. Now he's proving what I was telling them 6 years ago.

Toooo deep

Until it hits 1M views.

😂😂😂😂 So am i

True... I just wish ProVerb can also come to this show, he was one person who could be compared to Stogie while I was growing although Proverb isn't releasing music anymore don't know if he would be willing to

Wayne Williams are you not forgetting BVK

Braasa van die kaap and your cashless society not forgetting Dj Reddy D....

Big Ups... I miss the Cashless Society!!!

Awê coloured powaa!

Big up to POC and Black Noise

SOUTH AFRICA

Africa!

REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE

YOU FORGOT BLACK THOUGHT

@@mthunzimhlongo660 moss definitely papa 🤜🏽🤛🏽

That would my childhood collab come true... Add Mos Def/Yasiin Bey, Rapsody, A Reece and Rouge!🔥🔥🔥

@@siphosethupike5344 tht would be dope as hell 🤟🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥

lmao he is mara if he try shyt, uzothola them BarZ!

SlimTrim Beats nuh your reaching bro but T is setting a standard for South Africa...

@@vnmeast9360 yeah and in fact for everybody coz they got bring out their best

"Mumble rap" is more melodic and if you actually listen there will be lines that surprise you. The fundamentals of hip-hop and rap don't change (flow, lyrics, youthful exuberance) but what has changed is how it's delivered hence the change we see now. In my opinion, South African rappers are starting to bridge the gap between making music and rapping but that's also because of the current influences from America.

He has set the standard for SA rappers going on Sway to freestyle. Not necessarily the music being made.

FYI Africans rapped first Americans named it rap

I think the list is on backwards now the first is the last

Chris Rivers tops them then Stogie

No ciroc

@@modernafrica7180 lol

Word

Boiki Ledwaba a real man.

Real matured

with maturity neh

I would like to c stogie t ft 50 cent

@@andamela5607 he's better than 50

Assassin's

Macmillan Mashele true

aahh every rapper ever on SWAY...

Not just the South Africans.

who was the pioneer, who paved the way.. for these rappers to be on sway?

@@mandlenkosimoyo3852 Just because they paved the way, dont mean they the best.

He represented SA the most

Lol...your comment makes me laugh bro

@@philanimlotshwa2012 lo Uyahlanya. Stogie put SA on the map

Yung miles I know how you feel one love family

@@theboykent Y'all being narrow minded and dumb... 😑

MAMBO SANA