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South Wales Freight Trains 1980's 

Michael Richards
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Found this VHS cassette and basically just thought this would be great to put on youtube, so you can watch the history of trains in south wales in the 80's

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11 май 2017

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@barney8953
@barney8953 5 лет назад
Brilliant !!!!!! Grew up in the 1970s. The growl of a class 37 hauling wagons up the Rhondda valley to N.C.B. Mardy colliery is unforgettable. Sadly, that ended on 22nd of August 1986. If I had a time machine to go back, and a top digital camcorder.......
@danieljones3955
@danieljones3955 2 года назад
My grandfather drove these 37s to maerdy colliery from Aberdare to phurnacite plant abercwmboi
@S7EVE_P
@S7EVE_P 3 года назад
This is ace. I think if I was a train driver in the 80s/90s driving a class 37, I'd feel like I'd really made it...that sound...plus it was before the world went mad, better times. Thanks for uploading, this is gold
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 3 года назад
I’ll leave it up forever
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 3 года назад
Excuse me you "think" you were a train driver back in the 80s? Well unless you have dementia or amnesia you either were a train driver or not.... Which is it
@admiralcraddock464
@admiralcraddock464 3 года назад
I think you're on the wrong site mate, you want the "grammar for advanced arseholes"
@Isochest
@Isochest 2 года назад
@@benconway9010 A sad attempt at mobbing. With no mob. Just a knob: You!
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 Год назад
@Ben Conway: Try reading the comment again; it seems like you failed to understand its meaning
@davidtravers9611
@davidtravers9611 11 месяцев назад
Class 37's simply the best.. They have been the workhorses of the British railway operations both rail freight and passenger trains for many decades especially in Wales and Cumbria... I love the sound of the engine at idle and when moving off
@haminationsclips7696
@haminationsclips7696 2 года назад
Omg! Brilliant in every way! i grew up next to a route like this and it was amazing, I’ll never forget that growl of the class 37.
@123LooKey
@123LooKey 3 года назад
Back when trains were trains!!
@neilrobinson1956
@neilrobinson1956 3 года назад
Pure nostalgia, absolutely fantastic video of days gone by and also showing what has been lost. Thank you for sharing this amazing insight.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 3 года назад
Neil Robinson your welcome
@toonmag50
@toonmag50 4 года назад
These locomotives have a very business like face, no smiles, just power and a scowl.
@benjaminrees588
@benjaminrees588 4 года назад
Who'd thought after all this time we still have them thundering up the line in 2019/2020
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 3 года назад
@Steam Guy yes but I think a lot of excellent maintenance has a lot to do with it
@GWLAD
@GWLAD 3 года назад
Grew up to these up and down our valleys 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@AllenORourke1954
@AllenORourke1954 3 года назад
I remember well the double headed iron ore trains from Tyne Dock to Consett in County Durham, a brutal branch line with two sections of i in 35, the sound of two English Electric engines at full throttle will live with me forever...
@alexhiggins7307
@alexhiggins7307 2 года назад
Always had these thrashing away passed my village, on the way to Onllwyn washery back in the day.
@russouk
@russouk 5 лет назад
class 37s still look better than any yank trains I recall when kid living at home...in middle of the still of night hearing them in the distance pulling coal to the docks in cardiff...
@ljts7587
@ljts7587 2 года назад
I remember these flying past wink ups camp in mid 80s when I was just a kid. I never really paid attention to them in the day, but at night I’d hear them thundering through. Scared me a little until I grew up. I am way way older now yet I still love these engines. I now live by the Walsh coast and I hear them every now and then still thundering through flint.
@amadigidigaula771
@amadigidigaula771 6 лет назад
is there a better subject for you tube than 1980s BR freight? I don't think so. Thank you for uploading this!
@isobelmackellaig703
@isobelmackellaig703 3 года назад
I agree that these trains hauled by class 37s were a sight to see and to listen to, although I I think they were responsible for making my husband deaf.
@montywright5297
@montywright5297 4 года назад
Class 37 with carriages on the Shrewsbury route, a damn site better that the two car crowded dirty DMU’s in use now!
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp
@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp 5 лет назад
The sound of a Class 37 and Class 50 locomotives Thrashing is EPIC!
@taffboyslim
@taffboyslim 6 лет назад
I don't think I should have started watching this at 2:00 am. Might be a long night :-)
@2KXMKR
@2KXMKR 6 лет назад
3:09am I've just started...
@TheBarnem13
@TheBarnem13 6 лет назад
taffboyslim Lol try 4:21am I know what you mean
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 6 лет назад
I've just finished watching at 11pm.
@stephenbinkley
@stephenbinkley 6 лет назад
i did the same thing
@clonSanG
@clonSanG 6 лет назад
I'm the same
@tardismole
@tardismole 5 лет назад
Thank you for sharing. So much has changed and so much has been lost since the 1980s.
@harvestjet
@harvestjet 6 лет назад
Great piece of nostalgia. For a while I lived about a mile south of the Ebbw Vale steel works, the sound of a pair of 37's climbing up the valley was something to behold:-). Thanks for posting this video
@stevekaye5536
@stevekaye5536 6 лет назад
Thank you Michael - Being a lover of the Cless 37 locos this is one superb documentary:
@TomouskiPlayz
@TomouskiPlayz 2 года назад
Brilliant Video more of these rail documentary videos it gives you an insight into how versatile the class 37s were back in the 80s , 90s and even the 00s 👍
@blameusa7082
@blameusa7082 6 лет назад
oh wow, i was too young to have appreciated these events :(
@cameronnovini4660
@cameronnovini4660 5 лет назад
I love the 37 class. I hope they continue operating for some time.
@falconoilcompany
@falconoilcompany 6 лет назад
great film, this is true life for us spotters in the eighties. Great work.
@steviesteve750
@steviesteve750 2 года назад
I lived in Ystrad Mynach between 97 and 2014 and would regularly hear the 37 working hard.
@MrTaffjock
@MrTaffjock Год назад
Brilliant I was a guard at Swansea Eastern depot from 1971 to 1982 cold days in the van class 9 trains
@chrisst8922
@chrisst8922 2 года назад
I grew up in the south east of England where trains were catapillars of coaches with flat fronts and doors you had to slam. I wanted all the rails torn up and replaced with more roads. I wasn't until I was older and moved away and then saw films like this that I realised how exciting trains were and what I'd missed.
@zoesawesomepets2273
@zoesawesomepets2273 2 года назад
Thank you for the video, these bring back some brilliant memories.
@pippastone6018
@pippastone6018 3 года назад
The man or men who designed these engines are so awesome 😎 and brilliant in my eyes 👀, fantastic, brilliant, and most off all AWESOME 😎, thank you so much, 😎👍🇳🇿🌈😁😎 kiwi Pip from New Zealand, wish we had some here, but ok with videos, thanks again 😎👍🇳🇿🌈😁😎.
@SMX815
@SMX815 Год назад
Oh this is a golden oldie & love your videos 🙏👏👍 this nostalgia on epic proportions!
@bigdmac33
@bigdmac33 4 года назад
Fantastic video. More please!!
@catmar1944
@catmar1944 5 лет назад
["Thank you for this upload"]
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer 4 года назад
So enjoyable; thanks Michael 👍
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 5 лет назад
LOL the 37 and the fireworks on Bonfire Night, amazing hahaha!
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 3 года назад
I don't even remember saying that!
@Thornaby37
@Thornaby37 2 года назад
Excellent video 👍 For the first time I've actually got round to watching this all the way through
@cmeonthemove
@cmeonthemove 6 лет назад
...and to think we can still enjoy this sight and sound on my local patch...
@zaneclone
@zaneclone 4 года назад
Great upload Mr Richards. That cassette has held up well ! Quality footage of Great British bruisers... ! :D
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 4 года назад
Simon Murray I used a scart enhancer, basically filters noise out of the picture.
@user-zt1er1uj6i
@user-zt1er1uj6i 4 года назад
1 hour 16 min 37357 Tinsley tractor 1st ever loco i cab ride in 1987/88 love it been obsessed by it ever since.... now no longer in existence.
@SuperTrainStationH
@SuperTrainStationH 3 года назад
37 blows its horn. RU-vid Caption: [Music] Wow this AI is getting pretty good.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 3 года назад
gguru1 glad you liked it
@davehodges6258
@davehodges6258 5 лет назад
Great to see 50031 (HOOD) now one of many 50s on my door step at SVR Kiddy,.
@derekgrant9495
@derekgrant9495 4 года назад
glad you did put it on good video
@burnuts007
@burnuts007 6 лет назад
Awesome video! Great action! I subbed up I hope more retro stuff to come!
@russouk
@russouk 5 лет назад
Empire pool at start....now where stadium is.....good old days when wales was still an international stalwart in steel and coal domination. sad its gone.
@LeftIsBest001
@LeftIsBest001 4 года назад
You can thank Thatcher and the conservatives for that.
@class8866
@class8866 4 года назад
I remember class 37 running through Oxfort station with hopper cars. My ears were ringing after the train passed...
@RaynersLane33
@RaynersLane33 5 лет назад
Just come across this gem, thanks for uploading.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 5 лет назад
Llandeilo Junction no worries keep history going, I’ve been on the railway from BR
@StewartEvans52
@StewartEvans52 3 года назад
Great video,my only complaint is that it was not long enough
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 6 лет назад
This is very good video quality for an aged VHS.
@sheepfarm7560
@sheepfarm7560 4 года назад
Brilliant video .
@Supersonic8984
@Supersonic8984 5 лет назад
Those wheel flats on the 37 were nippy!!
@marcushenno
@marcushenno Год назад
I wish i was around there, variety of locos/rail links/open areas/space. Now the network is far different.
@lesball6839
@lesball6839 2 года назад
Brilliant love it thanks
@Isochest
@Isochest Год назад
These mines need reopening to fill the energy gap
@colinspeake..8889
@colinspeake..8889 3 года назад
I can still recall the class 37 that derailed and ended on its side and lay there for days until the crane recovery arrived and slowly placed it back onto its wheels...The train ran away from the Windsor colliery and picking up to much speed going down track to abertridwr it left the rails has it crossed over the points at speed and taking the train into a different direction over she went!
@1001saar
@1001saar 5 лет назад
Amazing mix of period loco liveries - seem to span years before some of the carriages.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 5 лет назад
1001saar I thought so the passenger service starting Monday with loco and coaches, I’m very happy I’ll be working them
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 6 лет назад
If I can get my hands on more stuff I will, this is a busmans holiday for me
@brianmorris8045
@brianmorris8045 6 лет назад
Please do, Michael, am enjoying them all. I get excited watching our Aussie trains, as well...something about rail, you can't beat it for long land travel and unlike a car, you can get up and walk along the carriage to stretch your legs..and sometimes on an overnighter, into the dining car too...lol.
@geoffreyanthony4276
@geoffreyanthony4276 5 лет назад
Excellent video - professional - and I liked the sparse commentary without the "bleedin obvious".
@familybissong5520
@familybissong5520 3 года назад
That diesel locos is nice 🥰😍❤️👍🏾😄😁
@Panzer-535
@Panzer-535 4 года назад
don't know much about British railroading, but the sound and smoke shows remind me a lot of ALCo locomotives.
@evangiles17
@evangiles17 4 года назад
I believe they used Suzler engines in these mainly because they could order them to the correct HP rating - Alco basically said you get what we give you - The NSW railways in Australia were constantly under powered because Alco and GE refused to make engines to the HP requested by the NSWGR
@grumbeast
@grumbeast 4 года назад
The engines were originally English Electric 12CSVTs they fit the same sorta role as Alcos too its a good comparison
@brianmorris8045
@brianmorris8045 6 лет назад
That 37405 certainly did a lot of different runs...lol
@25corn94
@25corn94 2 года назад
Those were the best trains
@Cerebro1983uk
@Cerebro1983uk 6 лет назад
I was 6 years old in 1989 I'm 35 years old now 2018 I like the 37s
@christopherdibble5872
@christopherdibble5872 2 года назад
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954.
@rickmeyrick4357
@rickmeyrick4357 3 года назад
Triple heading was only done on Iron Ore, not Hot Rolled !
@taffy402
@taffy402 4 года назад
2020 and the 37's are back on the Cardiff to Rhymney service
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 4 года назад
DEWI MORGAN yep I love it, I work on them
@bushyconn
@bushyconn 4 года назад
Most surprised to see uncovered loose loads as late asd this
@stuew6
@stuew6 3 года назад
I wish more videos like Class 20,31,33
@TazmanKRS
@TazmanKRS 6 лет назад
Very good quality for VHS... I would have thought it was closer to DVD quality... Cheers tho nice find.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 6 лет назад
TazmanKRS it was vhs I put it in dvd and cleaned it up a little
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 6 лет назад
TazmanKRS you can clean vhs videos up with a macro decoder
@TazmanKRS
@TazmanKRS 6 лет назад
Michael Richards the videos where not recorded by myself they are just links on RU-vid
@brooklynroad8581
@brooklynroad8581 6 лет назад
great
@petergriffiths369
@petergriffiths369 Год назад
I remember the Waterman 47s being thrashed out of Cardiff to get up the incline to Queen ST. I jumped on at Cardiff and off at Queen St just for the experience. The triple headed 37s taking ore from Port docks to Llanwern Steelworks. I was living in North Cornelly and I was gliding in Stormey Down at 13 yo, 300' above sea level. I could hear them at night but could'nt catch them and I was too young to drive. lol. Had I known they were triple headed I would camped the night at Pyle station. The line from Margam to Pyle was reletavly flat after Pyle it got a steeper and steeper towards the summit. So they would have been on full power all the way from Margam. Do you have a video of them climing up Stormey bank because I still have that sound in my head.
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 5 лет назад
I walk down that railway to go to Morfa Beach. 13:51
@familybissong5520
@familybissong5520 3 года назад
Diesel classe 37 is good 😄👍🏾👍🏾🙏🥰🥰😍😍
@djtrainspotter3079
@djtrainspotter3079 5 лет назад
awesome stuff there!!
@hmjmh7
@hmjmh7 5 лет назад
The first wagons would they be unloaded by men with shovels? Via the two drop down openings on each side?
@brianwhiting5658
@brianwhiting5658 3 года назад
if they was for a power station a lot of power stations tipped them over to empty them. if it was house coal yes both doors used.
@LeftIsBest001
@LeftIsBest001 4 года назад
Can I ask something that may sound silly? Why does the Class 37 sound so different to say a HST Class 43 power car? They're both diesel engines. Also, could a HST power car pull a freight train if it had to?
@gromit3315
@gromit3315 4 года назад
No one seems clever enough to answer... 😄
@mattcrompton5174
@mattcrompton5174 4 года назад
Different top RPM's and about 15 years age difference, plus they are made by different manufactuers entirely for certain applications, same reason all petrol cars don't sound the same
@joebond5012
@joebond5012 3 года назад
Good question, I’d like to know why it had that distinctive sound.
@Baddog-ib5mf
@Baddog-ib5mf 3 года назад
HST has wrong gearing for freight,Power cars generally have higher revving engines like cat or Cummins for quick stop starts .Class 37s and 40s etc have big old slow revving engines that give huge torque at low rpm ideal for freight .Class 66s have 2 stroke diesels and sound like worn out washing machines ( only joking)
@johnmoore8016
@johnmoore8016 6 лет назад
Look like it they would leveled off the load in each wagon they could have move a lot more cold. How many tons was this one unit moving? Have they since this vide up graded the power units? Thanks for a very good video. looked good on my wide screen. the country side looked good too.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 6 лет назад
John Moore your welcome, I have no idea how much coal they transported though
@markturner4219
@markturner4219 6 лет назад
The hopper type wagons carry 33 tons of coal. The brown box like mineral wagons are 21 ton minfits. The hopper wagons were mostly used on MGR trains to power stations and the like. Locomotives hauling an MGR train had to be fitted with electronic slow speed control which the driver engaged at loading and unloading sites. This allowed the train to maintain a constant fixed slow speed while being automatically loaded and unloaded without stopping. The number of wagons varied with the route and the type of locomotive used over it, but was generally about 30 to 35. That makes around 1100 tons of coal per train. The reason why the wagons appear not loaded to the top is because the pulverized coal they were originally designed for would gradually settle after loading. Quite a reasonable article here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry-go-round_train
@brianwhiting5658
@brianwhiting5658 3 года назад
@@markturner4219 the MGR wagons was classed as 26 / 32 tons . also if the coal was fine and wet you was able to get up to the weight without filling to the top . i used to work MGR trains out of knottingley.
@wynnedavies1643
@wynnedavies1643 6 лет назад
Tondu is not pronounced as Tondoo but Tondee
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 6 лет назад
Wynne Davies lol
@Isochest
@Isochest 3 года назад
Black Wave! THe difference of the Welsh language
@jesstill7833
@jesstill7833 2 года назад
👍👍👍👍👍😎
@Isochest
@Isochest Год назад
We should not have given up on coal. Energy Autarky is everything.
@danieljones3955
@danieljones3955 3 года назад
Beautiful machines my grandfather drove these
@Isochest
@Isochest Год назад
South Wales mines need reopening. We can provide all the coal we need for steelmaking and power generation. Cymru am Byth!
@saintmartins6729
@saintmartins6729 4 года назад
What's the weird muzak for?
@Sonic.Mario.64
@Sonic.Mario.64 3 года назад
I’d like to know wale’s horn codes, as in long, long, short, long which is the crossing for America, I know one long is in Britain and other areas, but what about the reverse code? Or the start up code?
@JBFlytography
@JBFlytography 2 года назад
“In the 80s” was a bit wrong 😂
@jarhead4God
@jarhead4God 4 года назад
How many unit trains do you run daily?
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 4 года назад
jarhead4God over what area are you referring to
@class8866
@class8866 4 года назад
Most industry is gone now..
@jasongnrfan4522
@jasongnrfan4522 4 года назад
The titles a bit miss leading but a good vid
@scoobycarr5558
@scoobycarr5558 6 лет назад
If you're really into railroading both passenger and freight in the British Isles, a trip to Wales seems entirely worthwhile. Check out the trains' Chicago & North Western-style running in Wales as well as in England and Scotland. Seems to me that the C&NW based its left-handed operations because of the British Isles, but I recently found that it wasn't the case.
@hmjmh7
@hmjmh7 5 лет назад
Why was it then out of curiosity?
@thepietrain7083
@thepietrain7083 5 лет назад
Anyone know exactly where this is at 15:26 ? I know its near Neath but not sure whats there today.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 4 года назад
The Pie Train port talbot steelworks I think
@alexhiggins7307
@alexhiggins7307 Год назад
Britton Ferry, not far from the station there.
@hmjmh7
@hmjmh7 5 лет назад
How many hea hoppers can a 37 pull?
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 5 лет назад
HM& JMH no idea just got this video to upload of a colleague as we work on the valley train for the last 27 years
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 3 года назад
"Network rail decided they didn't want preserved locos hauling every day services" haha thats funny how come they're letting preserved locos on the mainline hauling every day services now? Passenger and freight??
@donotwantahandle1111
@donotwantahandle1111 5 лет назад
Why do they rev up then down then up etc when taking off?
@antimosh
@antimosh 5 лет назад
Wheel slip backs the power off.
@skankhunt-43
@skankhunt-43 4 года назад
@@antimosh are you sure that's what it is??
@andrewthomas5540
@andrewthomas5540 4 года назад
@@antimosh Wheels were not slipping. Just lots of power going through those wheels, much more than is needed for what its pulling. There is a speed limit set there, hence power on, power off.
@antimosh
@antimosh 4 года назад
@@skankhunt-43 what time index? first few setting off with loaded coal are, Last scene is to. Classic slip with sudden interruptions of power.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 4 года назад
1:04:21
@duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627
@duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627 4 года назад
Tondu isn't pronounced Tondoo, it's pronounced Tondee.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 4 года назад
Can’t help English people pronouncing welsh names they go all phonetic
@ianmickiewicz6017
@ianmickiewicz6017 3 года назад
Spot-on, Dunc !👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@christrickett3291
@christrickett3291 4 года назад
Hoombit goombit loombit stoombit boombit bab bab bab bab!
@christrickett3291
@christrickett3291 4 года назад
Something like that.
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 3 года назад
Why does it sound like they're always in and out of the throttle? Why don't they hold the rpm at one setting, it sounds like they are driving a truck with a automatic transmission
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 3 года назад
They do sound like that’s what there doing but that’s not how there driving it.
@MrMusic1950
@MrMusic1950 6 лет назад
Check out those (none toxic) skies, no chemtrail overcast.
@hmjmh7
@hmjmh7 5 лет назад
That the reason we now have weird weather because of the chem trails
@andyrowlands50029
@andyrowlands50029 5 лет назад
@@hmjmh7 I thought it was because of 'climate change'.
@ScaniaVabis580
@ScaniaVabis580 5 лет назад
You can't be serious, chem trails for f*ck sake
@andyrowlands50029
@andyrowlands50029 5 лет назад
@@ScaniaVabis580I agree, both 'chemtrails' and man-made climate change are utter tosh.
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 Год назад
@andyrowlands50029: Anthropogenic climate change is not ‘’utter tosh’’. You are simply being wilfully ignorant.
@michaelrichards5275
@michaelrichards5275 6 лет назад
I have some American ones
@stephenbinkley
@stephenbinkley 6 лет назад
ohhhh please upload
@PerthMRC
@PerthMRC 2 года назад
Great video thanks for uploading. If you are like me and you like your 37 action to be pre privatisation then 00:00 to 25:33 and 1:04:15 to the end will do you nicely!!
@scoobycarr5558
@scoobycarr5558 6 лет назад
The passenger workings in Wales hauled by 37s could just be the same as Metra in Chicago and the suburbs.
@hmjmh7
@hmjmh7 5 лет назад
We have American locomotives here in UK Class 59s, 66s and 70s.
@tomlowe8563
@tomlowe8563 5 лет назад
Toeton no toton
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