@@BecksHobbyProductions It’s like that old saying about flying- taking off is optional but landing is mandatory. 😂 It the same with boats only the opposite.
They are in some ways, harder to desing than a spaceship, since in space the pressure u have to endure its just 1 atm from the inside, but in a sub it can go to a lot more.
@@timmi59 good one! :D I spend time in MSFS and the landing is clearly the hardest part. That does not mean taking of is easy by default - Every time I take my Spitfire out it wants to kill me on take off and it tries even harder on landing! :D
I served on a Los Angeles class SSN. It's amazing how many similarities exist with the Tango. Our Radio room was next to the galley as well. Even Officers hotbunked on our boat from time to time though.
А Los Angeles тоже такой же страшный как русская субмарина 🤣? Русская субмарина как из фильма ужасов! Я сомневаюсь что у вас есть с ней что-то общее ☝️
What I love about this video is that the background noise, as the person with the camera visits the different section of the vessel the sound changes. Tbh this sounds so soothing. Really liked the production for this video. Good work!
Fascinating seeing the inside of a late DE submarine. In 1987 I visited the British submarine base at Faslane and spent a long time speaking with the Skipper if one of the British DE subs. Unfortunately they were all highly classified so he couldn't tell me much but they were so quiet they would sit on the bottom if the sea at Murmansk photographing the hulls of Soviet Ships. He scoffed at the SSNs and SSBNs as being 'boring' he said if ypu wanted real adventure you needed to he on a DE boat! He did say the only down side was the lack of fresh water and the smell of Diesel!
Thanks for a good look around the sub. I was amazed at the number of gages. dials, pipes, junctions, electrical wiring (what an untidy lot of wires). Everything was crammed into the smallest space possible! I don't think there was a cabin without a wall full of pipes! What on earth were they all for ? Not a place that felt comfortable, I was glad to get outside!
@@BecksHobbyProductions Sailing from Sydney Harbour 0800 cleared the heads on a Leander class destroyer. Heading south for the exercise area. In the ops rm doing DSOTS (Daily operability test systems). Powered up the 177 long-range sonar, ran through various ranges, and feq took a bathy for water layer temp, sat back and had a bit of a play. After about 30min was preparing to shut down as the Casex was due to commence at 1400. Sudden;y quite unexpectedly, the 177 returned a signal, then another at about 5000yds. Strange. It takes 3 pings to class pos sub another hit called the OOW to have a look at the bearing and range with their binocs. Sure enough, a periscope dipping through.the small swell. Hmm, not one of ours. Chinese, maybe, or Russian went passive, slowed our ship down, and scanned the bearing bit of sea clutter, but very difficult to judge. Capt came in for a sitrep and said well done, let's play. So the destroyer ran down the bearing, and we closed to about 2500 yds, with no more scope and sub. It must have dived under the layer which bends sonar beams and forms a shadow for the sub to hide under a P3 was on task, and we handed the contact over, switched off the sonar, and I think I had helmsman duty. Life went on. Had some good contacts in the Indian Ocean off India and the Gulf War also during RIMPAC x4. Best life ever being a sailor. Where men were men and women were for in-depth conversation.
I once heard someone say when the Russians build a sub and launch it , it’s normally quite a capable boat but every single day it’s gets noisier and noisier as the Russians don’t seem to maintain them very well
Former P-3 Aircrew here. Yeah, those Soviet diesel boats were noisy. Everyone had it's own 'mechanical signature'. Our sensor operators would joke that we didn't need to drop sonobouys to hear them.
@@pb68slab18 I was so jealous of you blokes swanning around in the air. But was great to see the P3 rip past low. Got a ride once on advanced course 737 was a cattle car compared to the P3 luxury. Keep well, mate.
I’ve seen a few video tours of various submarines and this is one of my favorites. Some of the things I appreciate- 1. I like how periodically you show us the map of where we are about to go next. 2. I liked how you took your time and gave a decent view of each compartment. 3. And I appreciate that you give us some information about the boat and what we are seeing. Good, solid work here. Tak skal du have!
Thank you for the very kind comment. What you observed is something I learned early to adopt for my videos : Slow movements and ensure the audience is always aware of where they are 😊
You know, when you look at the interior of a submarine the sheer ingenuity of humans really hits you. Every single bit of kit on these boats has been made to fit, to be functional, reliable, serviceable... I can see why Submariners tend to look down on the tubs above them.
Thank you very much. It was indeed a very interesting period for submarines. Unfortunately, the Soviet submarines most likely to be accessible as museums in the West are quickly disappearing. More specifically I mean the Whiskey and Foxtrot classes.
Went on this submarine in 2017 it's was very busy so didn't get chance to really look at everything. A silly woman had a panic attack and had to be taken off as well because of claustrophobia.
At 3:21, the passage into the forward torpedo room can be seen. The men working in the forward room were not always free to move about the boat. For example, only one man would be dispatched to the galley to get the food for all the rest. Toilet time was also regulated. The men were allowed to use the toilet on a fixed schedule. The forward torpedo room had a "honey bucket" to be used when one couldn't wait for their toilet time.
my wife's father served as the commander of the BCH5 on the submarine 613 project (this is the predecessor of the 641 project) in the Pacific Fleet in the USSR for many years. They participated in many campaigns up to the shores of South America. He said that the boats were extremely reliable and maintainable. There were technical accidents, but they were eliminated by the crew and the boat continued the hike. These diesel-electric submarines of the USSR like the T-34 and T-55 tanks are simple, reliable and very effective
My mother s first cousin used to tell her things going on in the Cold War ! The way they would come in to Hawaii beat all to hell ! Like they were having underwater crash derby with the Soviet submarines lol !!
The cold war had some very interesting and dangerous encounters with submarines. I can highly recommend Blind mans bluff : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Man%27s_Bluff:_The_Untold_Story_of_American_Submarine_Espionage
I visited this former soviet boat in the harbour of Hamburg as shown. That boat was actually on reconnaissance duty on the eastern seabord of the U.S. during september 11 of 2001, if i remember correctly. Always wanted to be a submariner, but became a tank guy, well, even more crowded that was for sure.
I am constantly reminded by the comments that these vessels had a real life in a service. They made their mark on history and people in one way or the other and served as temporary home.
I visited the Foxtrot class that was moored as a museum in Zeebrugge, Belgium. Despite it's smaller size, I find that Foxtrot was roomier for the crew and better finished/furnished as well, even if some had to hotbunk. This one is positvely claustrophobic. I almost feel sorry for the crew that had served in that thing ! Great tour. So many people pan around too fast.
I would really like to see s Foxtrot/Whiskey class but they are getting hard to come by unless I go to the US. The one you saw was sent to the breakers :( In any case thanks for watching - glad you liked it 👍 And yes, I try to pace myself when moving around 😊
@@BecksHobbyProductions ... yes, the local authorities wouldn't put up the money for a permanent drydock so the sub couldn't be maintained properly. So sad it was scrapped. There were always plenty of visitors.
Thank you for the walkaround videos of these subs, I'll try to visit them all someday! Oh wow, when it comes to the arrangement of controls/devices/pipes and whatnot in controll/engineering rooms, the difference between a late WW2 German u-boot and this is astonishing. Zero thought given to the humans to actually operate anything with ease or efficiency. Pipes crossing the legspace, zero room for your elbows when you need to put some force on some of those wheels and so on... it's sooooo bad. Very Soviet.
Great tour ! My father served aboard U.S. Fleet Ballistic Missile submarines during the height of the Cold War ( 60’s and 70’s ). The FBM’s strived very hard to avoid any encounters with vessels such as the Tango class. Their mission was to stay undetected and remain a viable deterrent to any first strike by the Soviets. I hope there comes a time in this world where there is no longer a need for vessels such as this.
I like the period wood paneling and brass fixtures and fittings. One thing I'm curious about, did subs of any period have parts to fix hull damage, or a machinery room for making and repairing mechanical parts? I hear on naval channels they sometimes used mattresses to try to plug holes , just wonder if any sub ever had purpose made materials for the job or carry out onboard repairs
That's a good question and I am not sure what the correct answer is. I mean, it's often presented in fiction that they do some repairs, but if it's correct and to what extend I don't know.
I walked through an older conventional Soviet sub that used to be moored on the River Thames in London at the Thames Barrier. My claustrophobia was overwhelming. Only the Captain had a cabin. It was very small. By comparison this sub appears liveable especially the cabins, galley messes and no hot bunking. Is it still open btw?
Very interesting! I was an ASW operator in helicopters, thus required to memorize the acoustic parameters of the various boats throughout the world. I wasn’t aware of the extensive use of automation in the Tango. Crew habitability was also an eye opener. Although, I found the galley was quite crude compared to US boats.
It's obviously a very capable boat. But the welding and general fit out of piping and cable management looks like sh!t. It looks like a spaghetti of pipes, controls and wiring. I'm not confused by submarines in general, I have been on several Western submarines (Oberon class, Collins, Type 212) and they are much better in those regards.
One of the things I should have mentioned, which really impressed me (apart from the double hull) was the access arrangements to the battery compartments. From above. Western submarines require you to enter a tunnel to access the batteries and it's cramped and very hard to reach ones on the ouboard. The Russians by having hatches over the *top* have much easier access, and I was thinking "why the hell didn't we think of that?"
Very interesting. I used to be a tour guide on a WWII American Balao Class submarine, the USS Ling (SS297) in Hackensack, NJ. Sadly, the museum has closed and the Ling is rusting away in the river from neglect. On the Tango, where did the crew sleep? I saw a few bunks here and there for enlisted men, but no crew berthing compartment like the Ling had.
I was following an initiative to restore the Ling for some time. Even offered to lend my services as support. It looks it's not going to happen. About the bunks - good catch! I never sat down to count before, so did a little research, but could only confirm that the officers had the cabins you see. The enlisted men was supposed to have permanent berths, but I don't see them either. I revisited the overview and can't find compartments I have missed. So this leaves me with the conclusion that the bunks were put where there was space, but have been removed to allow guests to move around.
I just grasped why Russian subs have windows in their conning towers. They often operate in chilly arctic waters where exposure to the air and spray can be painful.
Always interesting to see how the other half of the Cold War equation lived in the little black tube. Sonarman, fast attacks and one boomer patrol, 73-79. (can neither confirm nor deny)
Fascinating seeing the inside of a late DE submarine. In 1987 I visited the British submarine base at Faslane and spent a long time speaking with the Skipper if one of the British DE subs. Unfortunately they were all highly classified so he couldn't tell me much but they were so quiet they would sit on the bottom if the sea at Murmansk photographing the hulls of Soviet Ships. He scoffed at the SSNs and SSBNs as being 'boring' he said if ypu wanted real adventure you needed to he on a DE boat! He did say the only down side was the lack of fresh water and the smell of Diesel!
Live just south of Cleveland. The USS Cod is a museum boat there. Cod is the only World War II Fleet submarine that is still intact and in her wartime configuration.[
@@BecksHobbyProductions Not many left here. Some were used as training boats into the 60's...some were ' modified" after the war..I believe all had modifications to allow the public easier access..only pieces of some ( periscope , sail , etc ) are left. I was a Sonar tech in the Navy for 6 years....surface...I looked for submarines
@@spaceghostohio7989 True, several have been through variations of the Guppy program. I have visited the Cavella and Pampanito. I should put the Cod on my list as well :)
I am really ashamed of the behaving of my co-citizens. Year 2022: While most countries of the world had already left the Covid-P(l)andemic behind, the Germans still suffered from such bad virus madness that even poor lifeless plastic dolls had to wear mouth guards. At least the sick Guy in he medical isolation hadn't to wear a mask ;) Thanks for the interesting video!!! I couldn't spend a single day in this tight space.
To be fair, this video was recorded at a time when European countries were in the process of removing the restrictions. So what is shown here is part humor/joke and part representative of the time of recording - not when the video was completed and uploaded to RU-vid.
amazing tour bro….i’ve never seen the inside of a turd before. Why the world is so afraid of Russia is beyond me. This thing looks like it was put together by a Simpsons cartoonist and an apprentice wire welder.😂😂
Haha . I read: maslo, (15:50) which in Croatian means 'butter', but I don't think they were lubricating the engine with butter. Rather, it's more like maslo means oil in Russian! We're after all, part of the same language group.
*Масло* (pronounced MUSS-low) can mean either (dairy) butter or cooking oil or machine oil in Russian. Curiously, the word for crude oil is not maslo but нефть (neft), a word borrowed from Greek. Oh, and peanut butter would be арахисовая паста in Russian, which is translated back into English as peanut paste. We decided to call it paste to differentaite the term from peanut oil. Hope any of this was interesting...
Watched another of your videos today of a German second world war submarine. That looked far more sophisticated, technically superior and well organized than this Soviet sub that gives me an impression more of a complete chaotic mess...
It makes me wonder if I, along with my crew, ever tracked this submarine from the air. I was a U.S. Naval Aircewman on Lockheed P-3C Orion's from 1990-1995.
What puts a smile on my face are comments like this. It makes the subject of my video come alive - it draws a line to how the world worked when this was out on patrol. Your comment is not alone in this - I saw another comment describing the life on a ship searching for submarines. I even think there was a reference to the P-3Cs. Thank you for your service and comment.
@@BecksHobbyProductions probably,that a Germans + anything mechanical is like unicorns farting rainbows,we don't know what wizardry they use but yet it does .
Your 641B is much better preserved than the same class boat in Moscow, almost all equipment remains intact (at least what's shown on the video). They had to cut the bulkheads to make wide passageway (throwing away half of the equipment in the middle) to comply with "disability/wheelchair access-friendly" laws. No living compartment at all - turned in a museum. You have the rare chance to see her in full glory! On the other hand, your sub is way more rugged and dirtier - here they've cleaned ours and painted it with fresh paint... looks good but not really genuine. This one looks like it haven't been cleaned and painted since her service days.
It really is a shame when a submarine, which has tight space, is changed too much to allow room for visitors. I volunteer as a guide on a submarine in Copenhagen and we try to keep it as authentic as possible.
Thank you very much. The XXI is also very influential on post WWII designs of Diesel/Electric submarines. I have a video touching upon this topic I recommend 😊
@@BecksHobbyProductions My interest in the 21 is I am currently doing a novel that incorporates the finding of one. My question to you is... What would be the minimum crew to run a 21?
@Becks Hobby Productions I was a naval contractor from 2001 to 2005. I worked at the puget sound naval shipyard in Bremerton Washington. I was lucky enough to work on U.S.S Nimitz, U.S.S Sacramento (A.O.E) and the submarine U.S.S SEAWOLF! ❤️ these videos!
Are those COVID masks on the mannequins? As a retired pipe-fitter, I can say none of the visible welds on this vessel look remotely 'good'. I have toured the ship Midway in person, harbored in San Diego and it too looks like it was welded up by 'people who saw a guy weld one time.' Just like in a movie, some of these things were thrown together junk, but look good from a distance.
I have to assume the Russian submariners yearned to be on a modern sub towards the end of it's commission, I mean even in 2001 that thing was ancient, heck, being a POW on a US sub would have likely gotten you better amenities. No doubt about it though back in the Soviet days that submarine was something to be feared and respected.
I was also a sonar technician in the 70's either chasing these guys or trying to hide from them depending on which class of boat I was stationed on at the time. Definitely noisy and easy to track. Good to see what the inside looked like.
