Comrade, i learned so much from this-Thank you! I am an atheist, but if I were a Muslim, I would ask Allah to bless you and your work here because I appreciate your labour very much. ❤️ ☭ ❤️
It's really interesting that they banned children in religious institutions. It's such a contrast to the American attitudes about religion, where many people seem to view raising their children in their religion as more important than personally practicing it.
@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 Isn't it suppression of religious freedom as well to make your kid go to religious institutions and make them a member of a religious group without them having a say or the ability to decide for themselves whether they want it? The neutral stance would be to give them as much time as they need to find their own faith and you can't really expect that from children, can you?
My grandmother's grandfather was a Tatar initially located in Ufa, Bashkiria, but he and his family were deported to Kazakhstan. As you mentioned in the video, they were among those who were not literate in their own religion, as well as experiencing collectivisation at a full swing during the 1930s, where they were evicted from all their properties in Ufa. So my grandmother's grandfather went to Mecca and Medina, where he stayed there for 3 whole years, after which returning to their tiny village in Kazakhstan, where he taught his close relatives how to pray. I am only 1/8 Tatar, but it is quite mesmerising to know that our family was part of this history.
Thank you 💖 Articulate or not. I'm just now realizing I misspoke many times in regards to numbers. Ah! My brain doesn't do well in reciting numbers correctly 😭
I love this channel.Lady Izdihar is a wonderful comrade full of charm and inteligence and a passion for the subjects she covers both historical and political. I'm so glad the algorithm brought me hre! ❤🚩🚩🚩⭐
I would love to watch a video where someone could explain how religion leaders interacted during soviet era... I see a lot of these photos with the Muslims, Christians and other religious people sitting together and talking...
I absolutely would love to hear your perspective on Marx and Lenin and their words on religion and the way that it can be looked at in the context of a historical materialist perspective. That sounds genuinely fascinating to me as a USAican lefty trying to unfuck my brain from western cold war propaganda.
Comrade, its time to upgrade your microphone, at your earliest convenience of course. Or maybe you just need to mix your audio so that it doesnt make shuffling noise every time you move. Keep up the great work!!
The guy at 7:54 , "Enver Altaylı" is named after Enver Pasha one of the pashas of the ottoman triumvirate and committer of the Armenian Genocide. Enver Pasha was killed by Armenian Red Army soldiers in Central Asia. Also his surname "Altaylı" litteraly means from the Altais or Altaic
Love the video disagreed with a few things but yh still great 👍🏿 Id also love to add my dad had a relative that worked as a diplomat around the often traveling to the Soviet Union was a Christian that even converted to islam. When my dad and im like 'wat happened to banning religions?' Either way i wouldn't say it was all roses @Hakim had a story where he said he's dad would travelled to the Soviet Union specifically Azerbaijan and people literally would sneek with his dad just to leaen how read Arabic to understand the Quran other stories like this from the former Soviet Republics from Thr caucus and central Asia. Generally speaking the restrictions on religion weren't necessary as religion can ultimately be scrutinized by the state as seen here.
My whole family was muslims in USSR. Uzbek SSR was (and is) mostly muslim. The first ever muslim university in USSR was opened in the 70s in Uzbekistan. They were never prohibited to go to mosque or pray.
Yes persecution was mostly against the orthodox church as it was tied to the russian empire and russian state and against tge buddhists who were mostly connected with the cossack unites and military entities used by the russian empire,, especially the buralyats and the kalmykians
@@akeel6328 I'm not sure about hijabs, I think they're not that popular in Uzbekistan. Though my great-grandmother was wearing it without any problems. Beards were completely allowed (why would anyone ban beards xd)
I really appreciate your effort for a very likely micro ghetto effort. I do dig that you are bringing attention to something for which there will never likely be any mass appeal. Things could change at any moment in our current situation, maybe you will be incredibly popular immediately. I follow Bald and Bankrupt and he does explore the city in Siberia where Stalin allowed all of the Jewish people to live together. Maybe he was being noble hearted in his motivations. I do admire you for your efforts. Please keep trying and try harder.
I agree with @user-lv1il4wl9k. Combating the bourgeois, chauvinistic, and exploitative elements of religions would seem to be a far more direct solution to the problem than denying any people, even minors, the ability to practice and celebrate them. Granted, people can celebrate and practice their religions outside of the physical institutions. But, in any case, the USSR had most likely had a clearer view of its own problems than any of us have, so maybe that actually was the best solution. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The first time I hear Lady Izdihar swear. Can't blame, it's actually completely wretched for a nazi to come out and use Islam to bash Soviet Muslims just for being from a country without a state religion.
I'm so pleasantly surprised by this. And completely unsurprised by thr CIA sticking their grubby mitts on peoples business. If only it stopped at things like this heh Fantastic video as always comrade!
Another good example of the policies made in the USSR on religion and how they are misrepresented today. And of course a good example of western double standards against the USSR and Muslims. It's interesting to see their strategy years ago by plotting some actions against individuals so policies are changed for their protection so that the us can blame the "enemy"... They still use this today. Never gets old
Ruzi Nazar, now that's a name I've heard before? oh yeah, the same guy who was involved with the fascist operation gladio in turkey. What a coincidence... Bes D Marx's video on turkey's anti-communist history is a must.
I often hear quite negative experiences from Jews or their relatives who emigrated from the USSR to the West after the 1950s. Is it true that the USSR provided an internal immigration passport stamped with the nationality "Jewish"? Additionally, I notice that Soviet Jews had a strong aspiration for ethnonationalism, which greatly frustrated the Soviet authorities. I love your videos, keep making them.
Excellent video, I'd love to see more. Been curious about the topic of Muslims in socialist states for a while, I know it's a complicated subject because you have some genuine problems with restriction of religion as well as socialist states being slandered for abolishing feudalism. I do think children should be allowed in religious institutions, but I understand it's complicated because of the authority parents have over children. I view this as part of a larger issue of children's rights rather than believing children should be banned though.
@@austinbones May Allah forgive him if he made mistakes but I think he was making ijtihad based on Maslahha.. Meaning he thought it was not worth all the blood of the Chechens.. Thats what I always thought but he still did a lot of good
Islam isn’t a private pietistic tradition, in which there is even a recognition of “Secular” or “Religious” spheres, since the overarching world view is within a moral universe, in which God has made pregnant with meaning. Even the category of “Religion” itself is a novel concept and has the spectre of the Treaty of Westphalia looming largely in the background.
it's honestly sad that the Hajj is currently treated as a sort of spectacle by the Saudi gov like "Look at us, we have the Ka'aba, look at how well we've made it look, now you have to pay your life's savings to see it."
This hits so hard, I'm well off financially, I can afford to go to very expensive vacations, yet somehow Hajj is even more expensive to the point I can't afford it. Like how is that possible? I have applied for two years now I still can't get approval the expenses is over 20k$ is just ridiculous. I can't imagine how people who are actually poor and are struggling financially go to Hajj. People literally nowadays need to save their entire lives to go to Hajj just once if ever at the age of 70.
I never heared this story and I lived near Mecca for +10 years! British, French and American intellegence officers were practically controlling the region in this time (read about John Philby, mindblowing stories!). Their no. 1 priority was for the local leaders in the Arabian peninsula to have zero contact with non-western powers, now from this story I can say not even hear from regular people like the Hajjs during pilgrimage! So much for democracy.
Anti-religious Marxists don't just forget to use historical materialism, they forget to use dialectical materialism. Being complex social phenomena, *_religions contain contradictions_* and therefore take on different forms. In a class-divided society, some forms (institutions, traditions, communities, theologies, etc.) of a given religion will reflect the class interests of the ruling class, and other forms will reflect the class interests of the underclasses. And none of those forms is the "true" or "correct" form. Ignoring this, imagining that there is some eternal Essence of All Religion to which one must be opposed, is liberal metaphysical idealism. Don't be a liberal on the topic of religion. A dialectical materialist should not be opposed, on principle, to religion _as a whole_ or to any particular religion _as a whole._ They should oppose the _specific_ forms of religion that teach the ideologies and enact the practices of the oppressive and exploitative ruling class. Religious forms that encode the oppressed and exploited classes' struggle for liberation are fully compatible with any socialism rooted in dialectical materialism.
@@dirt1688 True, those things are in the scriptures. But this is where it's important not to take an _idealist_ view, in which we define the religion by the _ideas_ contained in the scriptures. For a materialist, Christianity or other religion as it's actually practiced (Actually Existing Christianity, if you like) is what matters. For example, there's no branch, denomination, or tradition of Christianity (certainly no prominent one) that currently accepts slavery. (I only speak specifically about Christianity because that's the only religion I know well enough to comment on.) In the same way, there are branches, denominations, traditions, and communities of Christianity that reject (or interpret differently) the scriptures that endorse sexism, anti-LGBT+ views, etc. Every rule and prohibition in the Christian scriptures is rejected or ignored by some segment of believers. That's why Live Science estimates that there are more than 45,000 different denominations of Christianity: they differ from each other with respect to how they interpret each passages of scripture, which passages they focus on, and which passages they ignore. There's no denomination of Christianity that puts every passage of scripture into practice (even though there are some that claim they do); that would be impossible. These differences in how things are interpreted and put into practice are what I referred to above as the contradictions in Christianity. And, to reiterate something else I said above, none of these different interpretations can be regarded as the Real Christianity or the Correct Interpretation of the scriptures. They're all just different forms of Actually Existing Christianity. That's why it's important for dialectical materialists to pay attention to the differences and make _specific_ criticisms of the _specific_ elements that are incompatible with our struggle to abolish oppression and exploitation.
@@Dorian_sapiens denoiminaions in chrisinity are more of protestant thing.not in east or in catholic church.now inf diffrent coutnries there is diffrent levels of influcne from chruch on goverment... nd, to reiterate something else I said above, none of these different interpretations can be regarded as the Real Christianity or the Correct Interpretation of the scriptures orthodx church as well catholci church have strogn ppsition about doctrine and see thsoe dont adherign to it as schimatics.
@@himpim642 A lot of the Protestant churches that I'm familiar with also have strong positions about doctrine (and they use harsher terms than "schismatic" to describe those who don't adhere). But my point is that _we dialectical materialists_ should not imitate that.
The owner of Time magazine was instrumental in getting WWII started with the likes of the Wall St. Brown Brothers boys for-runners of the OSS and then CIA in 1948. So I read that Time reference from, it turns out 1954! 1954 is the same year the CIA & MI6 overthrew Messadegh in Iran (elected in 1944) maybe that was a Time article to divert attention from that Op (which included Kermit Roosevelt)? Anyway mam it looks like you mistook the number of Muslims allowed to go, it wasn't 21 Muslims, it was 21 plane loads of Muslims. Time even mis-spelled the Tatar people, they must have thought they invented fish sauce. The CIA was brought on line by the Bush Crime Family Bozos along with the Dulles brothers since J Edgar Hoover dropped the ball with security through WWII and the nuclear weapons secrets. Time did publish Chaing khe Shek's photo more than anyone else on their cover in the 1930's. Perhaps FDR needed him to win their Civil War so the Delano's could sell heroin in China again. No surprise to me the CIA did this. Henry Kissinger used to screen NAZI's Allen Dulles could use in the CIA, besides all the ones he used through the war in Austria, and Italy.
Historical materialism is a process that is what we can observe, measure, and replicate and uses the five senses we possess. It explains that human activity is based on and the driver of the economic activity of history. It explains that religions are sigh of the oppressed creature, the reaching out for something, the medicine to numb the overwhelming pain of capitalism/ feudalism/ exploitation /Colonialism. And it does these things. Continental philosophy is more about 'what it do', than 'is it true'. Liberation theology uses the Hegelian dialectic to then synthesize this seeming contradiction by focusing the efforts of the religious communities toward bringing about the economic justice spoken of in scriptures and the historical materialism brought about by science together. It utilizes what works for our current material conditions. Progress isn't linear. they used to say you couldn't believe in evolution and be religious They said you couldn't be okay with LGBTQIA rights and be religious even if it ends up being true in the end that religion does fade away under communism, that's a long time from now, (except maybe in China, but even then probably a century tbh) and who does it serve to tell religious people they can't be real communists? the elite and the reactionary forces. and maybe...communism is part of the creator's plan? some folks die never held accountable and in fact made quite rich through exploiting and enslaving others, some who never had anything die fighting for liberation after all they knew was taken. justice is here for us to make manifest, but what about for them? mar and engels changed their minds about things when they saw how the paris commune turned out, would they do the same if they saw liberation theology in south america and west asia?
I've never really gotten the point of religion in general or Islam specifically, especially given dialectical materialism is an atheistic system. Malcolm X also supported Islam and socialism, what's the connection that makes Communism and Islam compatible for some? I know some Christians like Communism with liberation theology
Some interpretations of religions like Christianity and Islam place a central focus on social justice, as does socialism/communism. If you read the Gospels or the Quran, Christians and Muslims are commanded to reduce poverty.
@@POCKET-SANDJesus said nothing on economics?? And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God Matthew 19:24
(1/7) @porsche911sbs I agree, Christianity is often called a 'proto-socialist movement' for things such as debt jubilee and unions of consumers. I feel that there were progressive elements in their time, but the fundamental tenets of divinity and metaphysics are incompatible with a materialist outlook.
Would this harassment case be enough to justify not allowing the pilgrimage though? I'm sure you'd have to be more careful after what happened in Mecca, but putting limitations might not be justified imo.
It’s always difficult talking about religion in socialist experiments. Many mistakes were made and their is much to criticize condemn and most importantly learn from. When shifting through the lies of the west we cannot allow ourselves to excuse the failures of the ussr in regard to religion. But in the opposite regard we cannot allow ourselves to be overzealous in our condemnation of religious repression within the Soviet Union to the point where we just spread western propaganda. It’s a difficult balancing act but one that’s more that possible to preform.
The religious repressions in the 20s and 30s were crazy. A lot of buildings were destroyed and many religious figures executed or sent to the working camps. It affected a lot of communities. Just wanted to point that out.
In the name of the proletariat Allah. Living in Jerusalem, where 30% of the population is Muslim (Russia has 20%). I would very much love and appreciate it if you could make a relatively short and similar video; How and why the people abandoned the church after 1917. A) The church acted in the role of the Ministry of Internal Affairs; You would be registered at birth, during marriage, and upon death. B) Soldiers served for 25 years straight. It was mandatory to attend church services on Sundays and if you didn't then you wouldn't get the next vacation to go see your family. C) Bolsheviks did not need to bomb churches or hang priests; Once the churches were gov.property and dismissed, so did the common folk. And because the structure needs various expenses like heating, washing, maintenance, painting, cooking, clothing, waxing, etc - the priests themselves handed over the keys. D) In Russian orthodoxy, if a community (church) votes out their faith leader - that is it. E) One example is of a priest who supported the Reds and got himself killed by the whites.
When a person lives calmly without stress without fearing for his future, religion dies out by itself, which is confirmed by the Soviet Union in which I lived well until betrayal and counter-revolution happened. 😔
I don't like when religion is being corrupted, or being super indoctrinated around children that can be harmful to any society, religion money shouldn't be together it should be separate, I love and respect everyone's religion.
Sister most of the evidence that you’re bringing up are from official sources, the reality on the ground was much more different, if you want to learn about conditions of Muslims during Soviet Union ask them directly, there is still many people remembering those times, I have never heard anything good about practicing Islam from people who actually lived during those times, and I tried to be unbiased as much as possible since I share some of the socialists ideas, but what I heard and evidence that I have seen don’t compare.
I have quite a few friends and am indeed married to Muslims from the former Soviet Union! I have heard many stories! In my experience only the worst experiences end up translated into English.
@@LadyIzdihar With respect, then maybe you can add them into this video, or maybe create another about it, because the impression that most of the people will get, that it wasn’t that bad. And the conclusion at the end, that yeah Soviet people went to the Hadj is a bit misleading, because we are talking about extremely small minority.
Sadly, not everyone wants to have their opinion or past be brought up in my videos. They see what I deal with, most people don't want to deal with the backlash, hatred, and presumptions I deal with on a daily basis for talking on these topics.
Assalamu alaikum, i hope you take this correctly, The correct way to wear the hijab is also covering the front hair! I hope there are more videos coming!
I think the label of CIA gets slapped on anything people dislike. To think that the soviets in particular or communism in general is not hostile to religion overall. The Bay of Pigs was organized by the CIA; it certainly was. To say that there were no Cubans against Castro is absurd.
@@POCKET-SANDthe KGB did the exact opposite of the CIA. Completely ahistorical lies. They armed workers trying to kick out colonizers. CIA worked to colonize. Completely different organizations.
Ayatollah Muhammad Baqir Al-Sadr refuted communism in-depth already in his "*Critique of Marxist Philosophy.*" I highly recommend reading this rather than falling for kufri belief systems which do not fit within our religion.
Islam is the foundation and first in my life. Please avoid assuming the worst from someone and imagining how one might use politics in their life. Wanting the best for everyone and A system that works & benefits all, Muslim and non-muslim, does not go against my Islamic practice in my personal life.
Commercial "religion" is a relatively new development. Many pre-marx socialists were religious themselves. My city in PA had Christian Socialists in office before the Soviet Union. No need to be antagonistic towards people.
You wouldn't be handed pamphlets. That's proselytizing. No one would "get in your way" It's wild to me that in a society where a religious person would simply practice quietly, not involving others. It still somehow gets in your way 🤔 Seems like maybe you're looking for a reason to be upset by it rather.
@@grahamjones5400 "religious people and religious beliefs will still exist." What are you? An Anarcho-Capitalist? Do you think destroying your source of trauma, or Utopian Idealism would make the world a better place? Do you think mindless complaining and partisanship will push forward any movement? If you are any slightly materialistic. You would know why religion exists, and how it is interpreted is victim to the human's circumstances. Racists will have a racist interpretation of their holy book, and Kind people will have a kind version of their God. People like you seem more interested in starting culture wars than actually bringing progressive change. If this upsets you so much that you gained an involuntary compulsion to troll in the comments, then why did you even watch the video in the first place? Are you really that lifeless, and so easily dragged around by your dog-impulses? Too bad. Religious people make up the majority of the population. If you see them as your enemy, *you will always be on the losing side.*
