@@greglast8016 Last I checked its the americans that killed millions of muslims... China just tries to brainwash muslims into giving up blow themselves up.
I think the idea is, first to habitate another planet gets first option to annihilate the other before figuring out that earth isn’t actually that bad…
@@johnnycampbell3422 the regolith is mined with the excavator then its powderised to tiny 100micron sized particles and heated above 700c in a hydrogen gas stream to release the volatiles and gases including He3. Then the mixture of gases is processed and separated by liquifaction keeping the good stuff(He3)
@@terranspaceacademy Yes, thank you for emphasizing the Ukrainians, because a single Ukrainian designed everything. But you forgot to say that it was NOT Americans who put man on the moon, NO, it was a former NAZI WERNER VON BRAUN.
I had read about the new mineral, but missed the fact that it can absorb He3 in its structure. That's going to be a huge deal! Also, anyone who hasn't seen TSA's excellent episode on the Chinese space program is really missing out! Lots of great info and history in that episode!
The fantastic and fictitious "di-lithium crystals" required by every Star Trek ship are now renamed and in a test tube in China . Fantastic lesson. Thanks!
Changesite-(Y) is an exciting discovery! All we have to do is fly 234,000 miles to mine a substance that might weigh 1 mg in a 1.7 kg sample, and might "absorb helium-3 into it's structure" to obtain a fuel that might work better for a process that does not yet exist!...Being a gas I am guessing the math isn't pretty for mining the solid. Are there scientific publications to support this "helium absorption" for changesite-(Y) that you can share?
It just got discovered and only one country has samples so not yet Harry. And we've gotten our hopes up before. But if we had put rovers on the Moon after Apollo the US would have discovered this half a century ago and we would be far ahead. The important thing about He-3 is that it is aneutronic negating a the need for heavy shielding, and it has the lowest energy threshold.
China did not discover He3 on the moon. That accomplishment was done by the USA on Apollo 11 then Apollo 17 mission sample returns. A sample of soil from the rim of Camelot crater slid from my scoop into a Teflon bag to begin its trip to Earth with the crew of Apollo 17. Little did I know at the time, on Dec. 13, 1972, that sample 75501, along with samples from Apollo 11 and other missions, would provide the best reason to return to the moon in the 21st century. That realization would come 13 years later. In 1985, young engineers at the University of Wisconsin discovered that lunar soil contained significant quantities of a remarkable form of helium. Known as helium 3, most Crystal samples discovered were and still are classified.
There are a lot of problems with building a settlement on the moon that are not a problem on Mars, for example sharp lunar dust whereas on mars dust is eroded, like it is on earth and won't damage equipment, etc as much. Mars also has an atmosphere, and lots of carbon, water ice, and CO2 that can be fed to plants directly or converted into oxygen and carbon for human use.
I had a job on an MRI the other day, from that issue i read about Helium, for the first time in my life, what i stumbled upon was Helium leaves earth when it rises, it doesnt pull down in earths gravity, so id be curious to know where its going once it leaves, maybe jupiter has all those helium balloons (contents) that left. And if we mine the moon, is there a consequence to our tides.
It's important to appreciate the efforts of others that move us all forward. Korolev is one of my heroes. I have no love for the Soviet Union but for a time they did great things in space. Thanks to him. Who the authoritarian system threw in prison and basically killed. I honor him and despise the shortsighted government bureaucrats that caused his death at the same time. China is making great progress... I hope the people find their way to more freedom.
There is no reference whatsoever to "helium-3" in the Chinese announcement about the discovery of Changesite-(Y) or in the Wikipedia page about this mineral, whose chemical formula is Ca₈Y)□Fe²+(PO₄)₇ - Where is the source link to this information?
Here is the CNSA discussing it if your Mandarin is good. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qnq5BjRqmnw.html More... "Chemically, Changesite-(Y) appears to be related to the more common phosphate mineral merrillite, which is found in lunar and meteorite samples and has also been found on Earth. Phosphate minerals are divided into several groups. The merrillite group is further divided into the merrillite and whitlockite subgroups. According to researchers at BRIUG, Changesite-(Y) is part of the Brianite subgroup that only appears on the Moon and in meteorites. The Changesite-(Y) sample, a single-crystalline particle with a diameter of only 10 microns, was manually separated from more than 140,000 similar-sized particles and then analyzed using X-ray diffraction to determine its crystal structure." www.lpi.usra.edu/planetary_news/2022/09/20/new-lunar-mineral-discovered-in-returned-change-5-samples/ The researchers of BRIUG have also determined that Changesite-(Y) contains helium-3, which is believed to be a valuable fuel for nuclear fusion. Its extraction will provide scientific data for lunar resource evaluation and exploration "The Chinese Chang’e 5 mission has returned a new mineral from the lunar surface. Chinese scientists call the mineral “Changesite-(Y).” The mineral has been described by the state-operated news agency Xinhau as a “kind-of colorless transparent columnar crystal.” Also, the Chinese claim that the new mineral contains helium-3, an isotope that many scientists have touted as a potential fuel for future fusion reactors. The crystal mineral was exceedingly tiny, about one-tenth the size of a human hair. The new mineral is of immense interest to lunar geologists. The helium-3 that it contains has the potential to change the world." thehill.com/opinion/technology/3647216-china-has-returned-helium-3-from-the-moon-opening-door-to-future-technology/
I am in a cool community for modeling on discord and they are also all over the world, they created a little mastermind around that topic. So it could function with people who are there to learn.
That is a quandary Bruno. I was surprised they publicized it. Do you remember all the prior cold fusion "success stories" from communist nations back then? Hard to tell.
This has been surmised for years & thought to be on the moon. It is truly one element that could be mined profitably from space. I will wait for other papers to come out. There are problems that go way beyond just proving it exists on the Moon.
To get to mars could take a little as a few days or less with fusion drives and the breeding reactors instead of using lithium for making tritium simply use smaller isotopes like protium protium fusion or hydrogen ions to create heavier forms of hydrogen. Also the treaty says you cannot own a celestial body but what you mine from them if I read it right. I'm willing to accept corrections if I'm off with reason.
@@terranspaceacademy yes but if my math is right it will have a net positive out put of around 100 times the energy input. Also for helium 3 isn't it possible to have massive space farms collecting solar winds and flares to produce it in bulk and transmutate other elements or isotopes as well.
The current controversial parts for rocket parts falling back onto the Earth is mostly thanks to Long March 5's space station launch configuration, which is one stage + 4 boosters. This configuration has the core stage help circularize the orbit for the station modules, and the very shallow approach of the spent booster definitely doesn't help with controlling the impact point of the debris.
If wars and boundaries didn't exist againts countries and humans and we all joined knowledge and worked together, we'd be tens of 1000s of years more technologically advanced at this point
Another excellent lesson - thank you! I'm among those who think that we'd learn a lot establishing a habitat & harvesting resources on the Moon, & that this knowledge would be directly applicable to a Mars settlement - & MUCH easier than discovering it on Mars. Musk seems to be in a headlong charge to Mars, & I can't fault his energy (or $$) but I think he needs to touch some bases first: - Lunar habitats - Lunar resources harvesting & utilization - Orbital refueling stations (possibly also in Lunar orbit) He's going to have to do the last, but it looks like he's only planning a minimalist approach, possibly unmanned. AFAICT, Ch4 & LOX aren't dangerous in space if they're kept separate. While it may not be strictly necessary, I think we'd learn a lot from an orbital station that can refuel spaceships (Starships) as well.
Thank you! We agree. It would have been so much easier if we had refined and improved Apollo technology instead of scrapping it all for an orbital only shuttle.
I'm afraid that's not accurate Greg. Chang'esite was not documented by the Germans in 1937. The existence of H3 was surmised but not proven until the lunar sample return missions by the Soviets and Americans.
This is a great time to limit StarBase flights to just 5 a year, how do you "say thank you FAA and friends" in Chinese. I hate it when a old children's story comes to life the📚 "Tortoise 🐢and the hare🐇".
@@terranspaceacademy I mentioned an older Aneutronic fusion project to you before called focus fusion, the inventor of this focus fusion is now taking on the scientific community over the big bang theory, that's kinda crazy as well I guess. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iG_P9lFctj0.html Anyway these are not boring times if you know where to look.
They are building another starship launch pad in Florida at Cape Canaveral that should be able to launch very rapidly, they can ship starships from TX to FL.
@@takanara7 As far as I know Starship and booster will have to be moved vertically? Unless SpaceX can get there hands on a mega amphibious landing craft, not sure how this would work out? Moving a house is one thing, moving a tower block is another? So basically they have 5 try's to prove they got it right, not sure if such a unproven radical ideals are allowed at NASA anymore.
The right side of the image is clearly Sojourner rover from Pathfinder mission. The left side appears composited. I've never read of Mars 3 sending anything more than a dark image with no discernable details in the minute and a half it transmitted.
No :-) Most stars are mostly hydrogen, when they become mostly helium they collapse in and a new form of fusion turns them into a different type of star, burning hotter and making other elements.
Helium-3 isn't the wonder thing it is hyped for ... what we want is deuterium fusion as deuterium is abundand and stable --- neutrons aren't that much of an issue and they are needed for breeding isotopes like for example tritum which decays to helium-3 anyway ... the problem is that we do not have small fusion reactors which can utilize deuterium and produce more energy than put in ... theoretically one could breed tritium from helium-3 but it's better done from lithium and I guess no one argues about conventional nuclear power on the moon ..... I'd say it's time to give it a go and better the next Fukushima on the moon than on earth... mankind needs a nuclear playground and the moon could be one
It could indeed! We could even launch an Orion class ship from there! Name it the Dyson... oh wait... vacuum cleaners. Name it the Freeman! No, everyone will think of Morgan. Oh well. Name it Trinity! Wait... that's the Matrix. I need some help here guys.
@@terranspaceacademy actually one guy wanted to vaporize whole lakes inside the moon's surface with oversized thermonuclear bombs to max fusion output ... he called Monstermaschine
@@mikeike7114 I still think it's to early to invest for private persons as it is still basic experimental research. Investing in any start-up which claims to have the solution is more like high risk gambling. Possible to succeed but unlikely.
Contrary to some reports, the phototelevision cameras on Mars-3 were functional after the dust storm subsided, in December. At least four photographic surveys have been reported (Dec 12, 14, Feb 28, Mar 12). Images were returned by pulse-code modulation over the decimeter-band telemetry channel, after the centimeter-band pulse-position modulation system failed. The decimeter transmitter suffered from intermittant failures and was used very cautiously. Only after important science data was gathered, a small number of images at low resolution were transmitted (256-line mode). The color image is a composite from the 52 mm camera, using its program of cycling red, green and blue glass filters.
They would have to rebuild their innovation. Corruption rots capabilities. It brought down the Soviets and if the US doesn't watch it we will go the same way. But not for quite a while yet I think.
Sounds like someone may have an affinity for authoritarian regimes and borders 😆. Great video, I too am in awe of the Chinese space program accomplishments
I was almost about to hit dont show this channel again for the thumbnail, but then I saw who it was. If you didnt have my trust already you would be hidden.
@@terranspaceacademy I have been flooded with nonsensical ai produced fodder lately, usually rather clickbaity, sometimes cr ypt o scams too. but you delivered what was promised.
So they watched Iron Sky. The future of Sword and Shield is not offence only the sword. Shield and Sword combination Nukes then are obsolete. I have become death the destroyer of worlds.
Tragically throughout history we have had to make great achievements at the expense of other humans rights/lives. Be it China, Russia, or Nato countries, there are some unfortunate stepping stones on the path to greatness.
We didn't have to... those achievements could have been made without expending innocent human lives. I get China and Germany and, with recent events, Russia, unless you blame them for Soviet crimes. But what the heck did NATO countries do to that level? Unless you are going back to Britain in India, and Africa, and Belgium in the Congo, Italy in Africa, France in Africa and Indochina, the US in Central and South America, and Vietnam... And Korea... oh... never mind.
This all only matters if three other things occur. 1) We figure out how to actually use fusion to produce power, not a given. 2) Mining He3 from the moon is cheaper than dealing with tritium. We can/do make tritium now and tritium can be made using the neutron radiation from a tritium-deuterium fusion reactor making them self fueling except for the deuterium of course but that is cheap and plentiful. 3) Helium 3 isn't cheaper to produce on Earth. Helium 3 is currently a biproduct of nuclear weapon maintenance which already provides about 15Kg/yr. If we really needed it we could produce it. Or 4) #1, #3 and a need for a small light fusion reactor if such a thing is even possible. We haven't even figured out #1 yet, so it's all academic. There's plenty of reasons to ensure that China doesn't control the moon, but this isn't that big of a deal... yet.... and won't be for some time, if ever.
@@terranspaceacademy Maybe eventually, we'd still need to figure out #1. and then still only if fusion is more practical than solar, small fission reactors, or even chemical energy. It'll be generations before some combination of large enough ship and small enough fusion reactors are a reality such that mobile fusion reactors are even possible. If it's even possible at all, we still can't really even say it's possible. Oh and I was reading that helium 3 can be sourced naturally on Earth. Apparently a small portion of natural gas is helium and a small portion of that is Helium 3. It's in the range of a few hundred parts per billion, but still, possible to separate and concentrate if it was worthwhile to do so.
Helium blue and Helium gold mixed together creates helium Green. Green is the colour to heal, Blue as the sun, Yellow as the sun Two great blood joined as one. This our journey has just begun to renite this world as one.
@@terranspaceacademy No, The Only Resource Shortage That Could Lead Humanity To Extinction Is Food. For Energy We Can Still Use The Water Generator If We Don't Feel Safe With Nuclear
It must be an open secret otherwise China would not have released such information, IMO. Good to know. Energy is the future of humanity or its failure, methinks.
