To a certain degree this is CIG´s fault.. They've chosen to place a large amount of Salvaging missions in a very confined area (rings of Yela) and made it very profitable, probably to make it easier for them to gather data for the game they're building.. Pirates can jump around from one OM to the next and expect to find loot pretty quickly. As a Miner I applaud it though, we're being left alone but for the occational npc showing up.
I don't do piracy. I wish it was more common. I like that in 4.0 hard death might be removed with engineering. it forces a confrontation in the ship if I go down.
What's the difference between getting pirated by other players or NPC's? Your ego... Of course, NPC pirate interdiction isn't in the game anymore, but it will be back. Some day.
Hard disagree. Piracy is a hard mechanic from everything in bounties to the justice system. We expect piracy day 1 of release, if a new player bought a 200$ ship that needs a 3 minimum man crew for maximum offense/efficiency (not to mention system and electrical repairs in the future) and has no idea how to fly it; entirely on them. Best they learn now and figure out it's better to train up during wipes; buying bigger ships with in game credits. There are way worse risk and reward systems in other mmos that are stolen by gankers and group pvp
Yet again we see traders being sore losers and griefing, rather than fighting to reclaim their lost goods or just moving on they abuse respawns and ram purely out of spite to bring the overall gameplay down. I wouldn't be shocked if they reported you guys at the end of the incident as well.
That's unrealistic to expect the traders to fight off a larger force and win their gear back. Unrealistic to expect that they'll get a global chat alliance to win the fight. Ramming was the only viable tactic left to the traders to achieve a win condition. As a pirate, I respect this and have dealt with it before. They're not abusing the spawn mechanic, that's just how the game is played in it's current state. Just like it's not abuse for a pirate to take call to arms and send the reclaimer crew to jail for defending their property. This is a bad take. Agens, I also find it unrealistic for you to have said "They're not interested in fighting us, they just want to disrupt us so we don't get as much of a prize." Mate you know well and good they have no need to play by any expectations or honor code. Those of us raising the black win by any means necessary.
Surely it isn't unrealistic to hire some escorts? When traders refuse to dip into the potential profit per hour for some security, they choose to take a risk. I assume most of us in the end want SC to be the kind of game to promote group play and encourage people to make/join Orgs around things like trading, mining, security and piracy.
@@habadacus7781 they're two Bobs in a reclaimer doing low effort high reward scraping gameplay. They're not gonna get escorts, no matter how much we want that. They're such Bobs they were literally were standing shoulder to shoulder staring at the elevator instead of the breachable airlock. You can idealize it but not everyone you come across is gonna be a proficient player, or have a friend base or org to recruit escorts from. I get that we as pirates want that cause we want the challenge, but level set your expectations for this encounter. Two Bobs, no time, only one play left. Size 12 it. Kudos to the Bobs for even finding their way back to ram it, but it's unreasonable to expect the Bobs to engage in a dog fight so that the crew can finish robbing them. You want these guys to have main character syndrome but to everyone's surprise they don't.
It's a bit more realistic for a reclaimer to ask for an export because it's all profit with minimal investment. But the investment is so low, they're only losing a couple of hours time and a few hundred k down. So ramming is the most logical response. As for traders, your take was... 6 mil I think I saw? Traders don't see that money. 6 mil down nets you top 10% back. Dividing up 600k doesn't incentivize group play like dividing 6mil. How large was the group? 5 people, let's say. A matching escort means 120k per player. 5 people @ 6 mil is 1.2mil. That's a 10 fold increase. I hear your argument, but the incentives simply aren't the same. The whining goes both ways too. Everytime a trader doesn't answer with a dogfight, pirates complain. Remember, you're not just stealing their UEC, you're stealing their time. It's why I love you guys... and I f*ckin hate you guys 😅. Trading wouldn't be as fun without you guys. But if you f*ck me, I'm going to be a much of a prick in your a$$ as possible. Tl;dr: f*ck you, but I love you guys. Thanks for the thrills.
@@shadowmaverick Why is it unreasonable to expect them to fight for it or move on? The verse is a dangerous place everyone should be watching over their shoulder and be prepared for potential pirate encounters. I have nothing against space Bobs (they make up most of SC) but if they have enough time and will to respawn over and over just to ram they might as well have fought for it, the game needs all of us to hold a decent standard of gameplay sure it sucks being pirated but they weren't trying to reclaim their loses or even stay alive to get revenge it was pure spite.
Has piracy become harder for you now that you can’t use the Idris guns on your hornets? Grew complacent didn’t you, why you are losing ships to better orgs.
