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@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 3 часа назад
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@glmm2001
@glmm2001 3 часа назад
The 37mm/1pdr was very popular for legal reasons. A a shell weight of at least 400 grams (0.88 lb) was the lightest exploding shell allowed under the Saint Petersburg Declaration of 1868 and reaffirmed in the Hague Convention of 1899, and that was used to develop the 1pdr pom-pom among other infantry weapons like the French trench gun shown here, which also armed French light tanks until WWII starting with the Renault FT. It was also used in anti shipping/submarine warfare by the big French boatplanes
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 часа назад
I guess 40mm grenades are now classified as anti-belt-buckle ordnance.
@kiloalphasierra
@kiloalphasierra 2 часа назад
@@Treblaineno, rifle grenades. Completely different category and semantics.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 2 часа назад
Wow, that makes sense!
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 2 часа назад
@@kiloalphasierra That's not a distinction that is made in any of the treaties. The St Petersburg Declaration was specifically over concern of a new design of exploding projectile shot from a rifle. The 40mm grenades is also shot from tripod or pintle mounted weapons that are absolutely not shoulder fired rifles.
@chpet1655
@chpet1655 Час назад
Thanks for posting this so I didn’t have to lol. Funny how they thought that killing you with one size of shell was ok but not with another 👌
@texhaines9957
@texhaines9957 2 часа назад
Thanks. I was 11 when I made my first large model of a SPAD XIII, US paint. My Grandfather fought the last 9 weeks of WWI on the front: infantry. Took out most of his hearing and smell. By 1946, he had a throat cancer from being gased. He died in the big VA hospital outside Chicago. Thanks for the memories.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 2 часа назад
Great video. I've always loved the SPAD XIII. I hope you'll do video's on the SE5a, and the Bristol F2B soon.
@jeffbrooke4892
@jeffbrooke4892 Час назад
Great program and great subject. I appreciate how you were able to tie this one in with Rod Serling, Ferrari and, perhaps the most influential movie of my youth, The Great Waldo Pepper!
@krill3333
@krill3333 2 часа назад
It just looks right to me. Always liked that kite.
@DianaHettie-i1x
@DianaHettie-i1x 3 часа назад
Your channel is a source of entertainment as well as education. Keep leading us into the world of knowledge and discovery!🧢🦆🐨
@jeffgaboury3157
@jeffgaboury3157 2 часа назад
Another great addition! The French have always made interesting aircraft in general, and fighters in particular and they built some of the best fighter's of the Great War. It's always interesting to speculate what they'd have come up with in World War 2, if they hadn't been ousted from the war in 1940, both in terms of aircraft and in engine design. Of course, the Soviets had purchased the Hispano-Suiza H12y engines and developed them to a great degree, so it's a tantalizing glimpse of what was possible. But it'd be very cool to see what French designers would have done with the engine, as well as with their other engines and their various aircraft. I look forward to your next video!
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 2 часа назад
Speaking of history... There is a Japanese carrier Kaga finally in San Diego. And it's going to be flying US Marine f-35s. Talk about a Twilight Zone episode...... 😏📺
@lllordllloyd
@lllordllloyd 2 часа назад
The success of the SPAD is all the more amazing when one looks at the original, which put the observer/gunner in front of the prop in a little pod supported by ungainly struts. It looks so much like one of those planes that's just going to be a forgotten oddity. Along came interrupter gear and a simple redesign produced the VII. The inner wing struts are not for bracing, but just to steady the wires and thus reduce drag. I think one reason the SPAD (and SE5a) were so good was the strength of the airframe: confidence must have been so important without parachutes and aircraft that would readily fold up. Guynemer was a huge hero in France, more likeable than some of his contemporaries. I urge viewers to look at photos of him from lare 1916, and late 1917 before his death. Soldiers in this war aged so fast, looking fatigued and drawn. But not von Richtofen! Thanks!
@BruceGCharlton
@BruceGCharlton Час назад
Thanks - I saw a replica at the Duxford air museum just a fortnight ago; it's a shame I hadn't seen viewed video first!
@Jbroker404
@Jbroker404 3 часа назад
WAKE UP!! NEW GREG VIDEO!!
@toqtoq3361
@toqtoq3361 2 часа назад
I think that keeping the pilot away of the oilspill and exhaust fumes was also a treat of the s.e.5. It even featured some idea of a "canopy" (which was not liked by the pilots, I read). And it was very fast as well. The engine eventually used was not the Hispano, but the Wolseley Viper (wasn't that a copy?). I like them both.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 2 часа назад
Yes, the Viper is a license built Hispano, the U.S. built them too, it was a good design.
@ameliafox9429
@ameliafox9429 3 часа назад
Awesome, great time to check ur uploads. Huge fan of how well researched and put together your videos are :D
@FrankBarnwell-xi8my
@FrankBarnwell-xi8my 35 минут назад
Congratulations on 150k subs. Higher, faster, farther! And a mile of burnt rubber on the road. Thanks Greg
@iflycentral
@iflycentral 2 часа назад
The standard 2 gun placement on the SPAD 13 was also better than on the SE5 IMO. Atleast the variants we had access to in Rise of Flight and Flying Cirus.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 2 часа назад
That's a great point. The Se5a's gun set up isn't as good as the Spad's.
@gordonmcinnes8328
@gordonmcinnes8328 Час назад
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Overall yes, BUT the (air cooled, lighter weight and uninterrupted) lewis gun allowed you to attack a plane directly above you if you got under it, McCudden, Bishop and Ball all scored kills this way.
@walletracer9882
@walletracer9882 3 минуты назад
Although the overwing Lewis gun allowed for a lot of trick-shot opportunities by experienced pilots.
@TomTurner704
@TomTurner704 Час назад
IMO the spad is head and shoulders above all other WWII aircraft in looks.
@bbrut3332
@bbrut3332 24 минуты назад
I enjoyed your description of the differences between the model 7, 10 and 13. It is interesting to see the major differences.
@bone8696
@bone8696 Час назад
Thanks for the video!! I would like to see a video about the Bristol f2b fighter, that would be super cool!
@emmabird9745
@emmabird9745 Час назад
Nice one Greg. Definately thumbs up👍👍 Re the SE5, Jimmy McCudden tweeked his a bit. He fitted (he did it himself following his background as a mechanic) high compression pistons and the spinner from an Albatros. That latter alone he reconned as worth an extra 4mph. I suppose the former maintained the power at higher altitude as you told us for the Germans.
@fxp5569
@fxp5569 20 минут назад
Thanks Greg , i was waiting for your SPAD XIII analysis 🎉
@chpet1655
@chpet1655 Час назад
I love these WW1 aircraft videos. It might be nice to see a video about some of the other nations like maybe the Italians who really had some funky ideas. In this video it kept out at me at the end of the video the SPAD 13 had been built to the tune of some 8400 aircraft. Now that with all the Sopwith designs, SE 5 must been overwhelming for the Germans who mostly had a few hundred of their better designs in the sky available at any time for frontline use.
@JosipRadnik1
@JosipRadnik1 2 часа назад
The Spad XIII might be the best french fighter of WWI but the Nieuport 28 certainly was the best sounding one. Imagine your typical 1980's lawnmower growing into some kind of mutant hulk monster. That's about the sound of the 160 hp Monosoupape
@IncogNito-gg6uh
@IncogNito-gg6uh 52 минуты назад
The most graceful and beautiful of WW1 fighters, too.
@Lord.Kiltridge
@Lord.Kiltridge Час назад
The SPAD had no real pfalz? Kidding, kidding. Hey, a comment is a comment.
@21wagstaff
@21wagstaff 16 минут назад
BTW the extra 20hp for the 8B came from high compression cylinders. James McCudden fitted them to his SE5a in early 1918 when it was still powered by the geared HS8B saying he sourced them from the French
@exharkhun5605
@exharkhun5605 31 минуту назад
One of the humanitarian warfare conventions stipulated that 37mm was the smallest caliber you could use for exploding shells. I don't think it was upheld for very long but it directed development of munition and guns for a longer period.
@rolanddunk5054
@rolanddunk5054 Час назад
The Spad and the se-5 are i think two of the best looking aircraft of Ww1.
@michaeltelson9798
@michaeltelson9798 Час назад
In a book I have on Frank Luke, it said the with his 2 mechanics that he would spend hours each day on the engine. The Hispano Suiza engine was supposed to be very temperamental.
@DraigBlackCat
@DraigBlackCat Час назад
It is interesting to see the comments about choosing a replacement SPAD and its engine in the novel Falcons of France by Nordhoff and Hall (1929).
@rayschoch5882
@rayschoch5882 59 минут назад
Nicely done, Greg, as usual. Since my personal focus has always been on WW 2 fighters, it's interesting to see the beginnings of lots of WW 2 technology being tried out over Flanders fields in the previous conflict. Not incidentally, the cockpits of most WW 2 fighters (a couple of Russian planes excepted), seem pretty luxurious by comparison to their WW 1 counterparts, especially in terms of pilot comfort. Given the attention paid to ergonomics in today's planes (and especially in today's automobiles), I'm always surprised by how primitive those WW 1 cockpits seem. Question (for Greg or other commenters): Could the louvers at the end of the SPAD exhaust have also served (intentionally or not) as something of a muffler - reducing exhaust noise in the pilot's ear?
@gordonmcinnes8328
@gordonmcinnes8328 Час назад
I read that Rickenbacker used a standard vickers and an 11mm vickers on his Spad as a specific anti-balloon weapon. Forgotten Weapons has a review of one.
@radosaworman7628
@radosaworman7628 2 часа назад
SPAD 13 was also first polish fighter, although it had most unfortunate name for any areoplane as it sounds like polish "it has fallen down/crashed".
@amptechron
@amptechron Час назад
I love this channel!
@williamroberts1819
@williamroberts1819 2 часа назад
Thank you sir.
@b.chuchlucious5471
@b.chuchlucious5471 Час назад
Coming from a racing background, Rickenbacker advised his squadron mates to go easy on the engines and not run them at full power until necessary.
@peterweller8583
@peterweller8583 2 часа назад
My God I need those mugs.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 2 часа назад
Yes, you do!
@CharlesStearman
@CharlesStearman Час назад
Regarding reversal of the propeller rotation catching some pilots out, I've read of something similar with the change from the Merlin to the Griffon engine (which rotated the other way) in later marks of Spitfire.
@soonerlon
@soonerlon Час назад
Excellent video. If I were to be a WW1 fighter pilot, this would be the aircraft I would want to be in. Dying of diarrhea and/or dysentery from flying a rotary -engined aircraft. I always wonder why I got the poops when I was messing around with my little Cox/Enya/OS Max airplane motors.....
@markmcqueen1882
@markmcqueen1882 2 часа назад
The SPAD XIII. An early demonstrator of the axiom: Speed is life?
@RextheDragon881
@RextheDragon881 3 часа назад
Thanks greg!
@wholt242
@wholt242 18 минут назад
On the topic of Eddie Rickenbacker and the Americans who flew with the British, it is important to remember that British standards for verifying aerial victories were more lax than those of the French. This is also why British and Commonwealth pilots are disproportionately represented on lists of the most successful aces of WWI as compared to the French, despite the French by all accounts having the largest air force on the Western Front by the end of the war.
@heneagedundas
@heneagedundas Час назад
One big reason for the unpopularity of the SPAD XII was because the gun breach extended into the cockpit, they could no longer control it with a joystick. Pitch and roll were managed separately by two controls, one for each hand. So, just flying it was rendered far more difficult, and that's before the problem of having to release a control to reload the gun.
@21wagstaff
@21wagstaff 7 минут назад
@@heneagedundas that’s wrong. It used a Deperdessin control wheel and system. Guynemer himself suggested it and there’s photos of the control wheel in the cockpit
@richardschaffer5588
@richardschaffer5588 2 часа назад
Excellent! Is a video on the Hispano Suiza in the works?
@thiemokellner1893
@thiemokellner1893 Час назад
Thanks
@charlesmartin1121
@charlesmartin1121 Час назад
Thank you France for providing us Americans with such an excellent fighter aircraft.
@garyjordan3914
@garyjordan3914 3 часа назад
I thought that the Fokker DVII was the best fighter of WWII . That was why it was required to be turned over to the allies after the end of the war .
@JosipRadnik1
@JosipRadnik1 2 часа назад
It certainly was the most numerous of the best german WWI fighters. The Fokker DVIII and the Siemens Schuckert DIV might have been better, but they only appeared rather late and in small numbers so the Entente leadership probably hadn't even caught attention of them yet.
@TomAshley-m4n
@TomAshley-m4n 2 часа назад
Best, 2nd or 3rd best overall, it certainly was Germany's best Frontline fighter. Are you going to allow the vanquished to retain their best?
@RobFeldkamp
@RobFeldkamp 3 часа назад
Sweet already!
@dindrmindr626
@dindrmindr626 46 минут назад
(Clarkson's voice) Greeeeeeeeeg
@nicolamorizio
@nicolamorizio 2 часа назад
This plane was flown by the italian top ace: Francesco Baracca.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 2 часа назад
You don't say?
@Margarinetaylorgrease
@Margarinetaylorgrease 2 часа назад
Aerodynamic wire. I’m get me some of dat for my hifi. Make it sound faster
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 2 часа назад
Exposed wires are always a drag, but Bluetooth ain't structural . . . yet! : )
@Margarinetaylorgrease
@Margarinetaylorgrease Час назад
@@loddude5706 Bluetooth should never of gotten off the ground. It’s literally, “low IQ”
@carosel43
@carosel43 Час назад
That final description of the spad could almost be copy/pasted into a video about the P40
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 Час назад
Handswinging a geared V8 is going to burn off your breakfast - how many 'bangs per blade'?! : )
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 2 часа назад
Great video! Why 37mm? It may be huge, and heavy, and slow firing, with awful ballistics, but....one hit and your target is dead. Trade-offs i guess.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 2 часа назад
Yes, but that's true of a 35mm or a 40mm. What's so special about 37mm?
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 2 часа назад
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Good question. Perhaps because Gunemyer wanted one and people thought; "Oh, if HE thinks it's good..."
@nigelgarrett7970
@nigelgarrett7970 2 часа назад
​@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Hiram Maxim developed a 37mm gun in the late 19th century. Some armies used variants as a light infantry gun, including the French. Was it a case of using what is around?
@rippervtol9516
@rippervtol9516 Час назад
Copied from: @glmm2001 The 37mm/1pdr was very popular for legal reasons. A a shell weight of at least 400 grams (0.88 lb) was the lightest exploding shell allowed under the Saint Petersburg Declaration of 1868 and reaffirmed in the Hague Convention of 1899, and that was used to develop the 1pdr pom-pom among other infantry weapons like the French trench gun shown here, which also armed French light tanks until WWII starting with the Renault FT. It was also used in anti shipping/submarine warfare by the big French boatplanes
@michaelmoorrees3585
@michaelmoorrees3585 Час назад
18:25 - Priorities !
@13stalag13
@13stalag13 2 часа назад
The SPAD XII mounted a .30 cal. Vickers MG as well as the 37mm cannon.
@gordonmcinnes8328
@gordonmcinnes8328 Час назад
It also was used to mount an 11mm vickers.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
13stalag, yes, I showed that in the video. It was on the right side.
@martinricardo4503
@martinricardo4503 10 минут назад
P-47 sounds a lot like this Spad-13.
@walletracer9882
@walletracer9882 24 минуты назад
Why bother out-turning your opponent when you can easily out-dive and out-climb him? The SPAD series definitely foreshadowed fighter development in the decades to come.
@garyhooper1820
@garyhooper1820 7 минут назад
The confidence of being able to out climb , dive ,and speed away , gives new pilots the ability to hone skills while learning to become successful .
@phillipswann6432
@phillipswann6432 2 часа назад
Just spitballing here, but maybe the the desire for the 37mm had to do with the size of a preexisting propeller hub.
@rippervtol9516
@rippervtol9516 Час назад
Copied from: @glmm2001 The 37mm/1pdr was very popular for legal reasons. A a shell weight of at least 400 grams (0.88 lb) was the lightest exploding shell allowed under the Saint Petersburg Declaration of 1868 and reaffirmed in the Hague Convention of 1899, and that was used to develop the 1pdr pom-pom among other infantry weapons like the French trench gun shown here, which also armed French light tanks until WWII starting with the Renault FT. It was also used in anti shipping/submarine warfare by the big French boatplanes
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim 59 минут назад
Greg do you know what issue prevented the Bf109E from having the hub mounted cannon? The propeller spinner appears to have been designed for it from the outset.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 39 минут назад
The 109 E-3 did have the hub mounted cannon, but it cause vibration issues so they took them out for the E-4.
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim 34 минуты назад
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles did the E3 also have the wing mounted cannon, or were they added to the E4 to compensate for loosing the hub cannon?
@mikoajpytlik5225
@mikoajpytlik5225 21 минуту назад
​@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobilesIn a very rare case of disagreeing with You, I must say I don't think it did. E variants used short barrelled drum fed MG FFs that didn't seem to be capable of reliable operation in centerline mount. I might be wrong of course, and you have much better access to sources. Do you have good one for centerline cannon in E-3?
@dennisford2000
@dennisford2000 3 часа назад
Not just Ferrari and Porsche is the same horse
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 3 часа назад
Yes, but that's another story.
@TomAshley-m4n
@TomAshley-m4n 3 часа назад
I'm a gunner/aviator and don't get the 37mm either.
@stephenlarson9422
@stephenlarson9422 2 часа назад
it was legally able to use explosive and/or incendiary ammo. per the Saint Petersburg Declaration of 1868 it was a war crime to use an explosive and/or incendiary payload if the projectile weighed less that 400g (14.1 oz.) the smallest bore a cannon with a compliant projectile can have is ~37mm. this is also why many light cannons were 37mm. please note that this is not strictly enforced or observed att.
@olpaint71
@olpaint71 2 часа назад
See response from @glmm2001 above. In the Saint Petersburg Declaration of 1868 (full name "Declaration Renouncing the Use, in Time of War, of Explosive Projectiles Under 400 Grammes Weight") exploding projectiles were limited to a minimum size of 400g, which equated to about 37mm using the technology of the time. Once the 37mm caliber was in use, further weapons development would tend to evolve from existing tooling and components. If all your rifling and boring machinery is already in 37mm, it's easier to experiment with changes to projectile length, barrel length, rifling twist rates, and chamber volume than it is to change barrel boring machinery tooling to modify diameter.
@Preciouspink
@Preciouspink 43 минуты назад
When it look right….
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 17 минут назад
Thanks for the mug comment I'll pass but..."plane"ly if you work you need to get paid.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 8 минут назад
Thanks so much for the contribution. I really appreciate it.
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 15 минут назад
Wrong Spad, Greg.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles 9 минут назад
Not for Rene Fonck.
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