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Ceuta & Melilla are two Spanish cities on the coast of Morocco. These two enclaves in mainland Africa are an interesting historical anomaly, but they're also proving difficult today with Spain facing border issues with neighbouring Morocco. So in this video we're going to explain some of the historical and modern conflict surrounding Ceuta, Melilla and Spain's relationship with Africa.
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@polureta2455
@polureta2455 3 года назад
Secret cities? Calling Ceuta and Melilla secret is like calling Gibraltar secret...
@And.r.ew.90
@And.r.ew.90 3 года назад
@@helios4650 secret means hidden. So unknown would be better.
@buddy1155
@buddy1155 3 года назад
Ssssssttt... Don't tell people about the Gibraltar secret.
@RaphaelAltieri
@RaphaelAltieri 3 года назад
British-centric media. This kind of title was to be expected.
@Side_Eye_Shibe
@Side_Eye_Shibe 3 года назад
@@helios4650 wrong. secret and unknown to brits are 2 different things.
@BenWillock
@BenWillock 3 года назад
I hadn't heard of them until today.
@endreasdionysus2027
@endreasdionysus2027 3 года назад
Mauritiana, Melila 💀 What’s next? Spian? Morcoco?
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@ConorMcgregor322
@ConorMcgregor322 3 года назад
Yes
@warphkarem4781
@warphkarem4781 3 года назад
sahari, the opposite of sahara
@ehtuanK
@ehtuanK 3 года назад
@@warphkarem4781 Well, no, that one's not an error, "Sahari" roughly means "of the Sahara", so it's correct.
@royxeph_arcanex
@royxeph_arcanex 3 года назад
Alregia and Potrugal
@jake3736
@jake3736 3 года назад
I'm convinced he's just pronouncing these place names wrong on purpose
@is7040
@is7040 3 года назад
right? Let's hope that's it.
@nikoladd
@nikoladd 3 года назад
naah he's a Brit. English speakers botch everything that's foreign and hasn't been imposed on them by the Normans. And they don't learn much of foreign languages, which leads to "ignorant and proud" mentality being often the case.
@andreab7689
@andreab7689 3 года назад
@@nikoladd yikes you're out for blood today aren't you
@JeanQPublique
@JeanQPublique 3 года назад
Brits pronounching "Paella" is hilarious. It is the most culturally lazy thing I have ever witnessed. Brit: "Mmm. this Pie Ella is good" Me: "You mean Paella (pi-ey-ya)?" Brit: "No, it's pie ella" Brit 2: "Yeah you dummy".
@rickybojangles162
@rickybojangles162 3 года назад
@@nikoladd Brits are ignorant Because they can't pronounce words and names from languages they don't speak.. top quality logic right there 😂 bring a bunch of non English speakers to Leicestershire or Frome and then come back to me. 😂
@JayJay5244
@JayJay5244 3 года назад
Lmfao “Morocco’s human rights minister” … This has gotta be a joke…
@RoScFan
@RoScFan 3 года назад
how bad us the Human rights situation in Morocco?
@miskakopperoinen8408
@miskakopperoinen8408 3 года назад
@@RoScFan Not good. On the human rights index, it sits at about 80th least free country out of 179 countries and a handful of disputed territories. The situation has been solidly declining for the past 4 years and there's no immediate reason for that to change. That said, almost half of the world's countries are even worse off. It's not North Korea or Syria by a long shot.
@abbofun9022
@abbofun9022 3 года назад
@@RoScFan it is a dictatorship, nuff said.
@JayJay5244
@JayJay5244 3 года назад
@@RoScFan There is little to no free speech and publishing articles that go against the king in any way, even if it is the mildest of criticism, will get you in jail… The King is highly corrupt and instead of using the money to pull his severely impoverished and uneducated people up, he stuffs his own pockets… Not exactly world class leadership right there
@FriedrichBarb
@FriedrichBarb 3 года назад
Morocco is one of the most corrupt places you can go and is the tumour that pumps millions of tons of hashish and other brain destroying drugs to Europe every year
@showmethem0ney
@showmethem0ney 3 года назад
Had a debate about this in uni few months ago. Although we lost one of the points that i raised was about the possibility of morocco using refugee as a threat to get what they want just as turkey has done so with syrian refugee. I'm almost sad to have been proven right about such circumstances actually arising. Guess something are predictable and depressing at the same time.
@FriedrichBarb
@FriedrichBarb 3 года назад
Depressing from how weak Europe has become yes, Morocco shouldn’t even have the power or possibility to threaten a European nation with migration. It’s pathetic, we need strong and intolerant borders all over South Europe
@yassine9826
@yassine9826 3 года назад
The only cards Morocco can play against spain are immigration and fight against terrorism. It's indeed unfortunate but if Spain wants us to continue helping it against those issues, they at least have to respect our borders and not illegaly heal a separatist war criminal who came with a fake passeport and who should be in the spanish court. It was a huge disrespectful move
@yassine9826
@yassine9826 3 года назад
@@FriedrichBarb it's not a threat, it's a response
@juanmola2000
@juanmola2000 3 года назад
@@yassine9826 Providing medical aid is an international obligation regardless of the person, thats why he was attended for covid and then sent to spanish court. If a war criminal from another place had asked for it they would have done the same.
@FriedrichBarb
@FriedrichBarb 3 года назад
@@yassine9826 A threatening response yes, as if playing fire with fire will lead to anything good.
@charliekassyk8357
@charliekassyk8357 3 года назад
"Maurishiana". OK then.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@audioartistic
@audioartistic 3 года назад
Don't mind him, he seems ignorant.
@inakigomezvalencia5063
@inakigomezvalencia5063 3 года назад
innit, i dont get how he covers different politico-economic issues pretty accurately, but fails to pronounce names :/
@audioartistic
@audioartistic 3 года назад
@@inakigomezvalencia5063 oh, believe me, nothing he says is accurate.
@listen1st267
@listen1st267 3 года назад
For real. Like, I generally love his videos but the video editing can be really rough at times and his pronunciation can be wacky. But maybe that's because he's British?
@bengu3987
@bengu3987 3 года назад
Isn’t this what Turkey tried to do to Greece and Bulgaria?
@sfp2290
@sfp2290 3 года назад
It does sound awfully familiar.
@yassine9826
@yassine9826 3 года назад
Yes but Morocco is just claiming its rights and demanding to be respected, nothing more nothing less
@mmostgamer
@mmostgamer 3 года назад
Precisely! And it’s time for some sanctions mechanism in such cases of extortion.
@mmostgamer
@mmostgamer 3 года назад
@@yassine9826 Morocco is playing with fire at a unwise moment. At the moment, I can imagine that continuing such actions would lead to a very rapid sanctions + revolution scenario.
@DiegoGarcia-en4sf
@DiegoGarcia-en4sf 3 года назад
@mariandona fellaindinho If Morocco couldn't sell the phosphate, they would be poorer, wich the Moroccan king doesn't want. Also, there are enough reserves of phosphate all around the world to survive without Morocco. The world wouldn't die without Morocco.
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 3 года назад
2:07 "Without turning this video into a history lesson..." Why not do a separate video on it? Western Sahara is fascinating.
@vanbaguette7368
@vanbaguette7368 3 года назад
Yeah! Not many know about it, even tough it's quite interesting.
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
Yes it’s the trigger of this crisis. The shameful attitude of the Spanish gouverneront towards its partner. Morocco is not the Gendarme of Spain. If you treat your partner badly, don’t expect anything from him. Spain always used the Sahara topic to blackmail Morocco. But Morocco of today is not Morocco of yesterday. The country is now accelerating with a strong economic growth and very important military capacities. Spain knows it, still they tried a stupid move with welcoming a war criminal and the official enemy of its partner.
@warking0503
@warking0503 3 года назад
@@freewal the shamefull attitude of the spanish?? They let him in for medical reasons. Because morrocco sees him as a warcriminal does not mean others do. You know what shamefull is? Blackmailing spain and the eu by using humanlives.
@yassine9826
@yassine9826 3 года назад
@@warking0503 he comitted crimes in spain
@warking0503
@warking0503 3 года назад
@@yassine9826 Warcrimes?
@arkheavyindutries
@arkheavyindutries 3 года назад
I don't know how true it is, but I've read that most of those "migrants" are Moroccan citizens who where lured to cross the border under the premise that a famous football player was visiting the city. It is also something worth to know that Melilla has around 85k inhabitants. A sudden influx of 8000 migrants is something difficult to manage by such a small city.
@marneus
@marneus 3 года назад
They were lured under several false premises, that's true. It's not hersay, it's in the public police reports.
@juanmola2000
@juanmola2000 3 года назад
Yes the majority were Moroccan. Thats why so many were kicked out, because Moroccan citizens cant legally ask for refuge like a person from Syria could. Pretty much exceptions and children whose families couldnt be located stayed in the city
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
Morocco sent only its citizens. It was an invasion. Not a migrant crisis. The purpose was to show to Spain : “if you continue your dirty things behind my back, I let open the doors but next time it will be subsaharians and you can’t expel them like you do with Moroccans” It is a warning to Spain. Treat us as partner, and stop blackmailing Morocco on the Sahara topic, or we have means to pressure you.”
@toade1583
@toade1583 3 года назад
@@freewal Why wouldn't they be able to expel black Africans? Your comment seems a tad racist, treating black immigration as worse than Arab ones, the Spanish dislike you all anyway, you'll always be Moors to them.
@szymon940
@szymon940 3 года назад
@@toade1583 what the hell? He just said that you can legally expel Moroccans back to Morocco but people coming from countries like Congo cannot be expelled, because they can legally apply for refuge
@psammiad
@psammiad 3 года назад
On behalf of all English people, I'd like to apologise to Spanish viewers for Jack's pispronunciation 😫 *wince*
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@ducovanderwoude6971
@ducovanderwoude6971 3 года назад
At least we can all understand what he means,because it's written out.
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 3 года назад
It's not the pronunciation of the Spanish names that got to me, I mean that you can excuse. It's the pronunciation of the ostensibly English ones. xD
@lvi8957
@lvi8957 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭 I am dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@helliswar
@helliswar 2 года назад
Its mlilia in moroccan accent
@MaxTheLazyCat
@MaxTheLazyCat 3 года назад
It's fine to have migrants who legally get access to the EU and who have background checks to see if they're fine. But when small cities like melilla and ceuta exceed their threshold its not hard to see why they have to push out the majority of migrants
@maxpuente6291
@maxpuente6291 3 года назад
Great video as usual! Just think sth should be said about pronunciation of names: Ceuta: Theh-oo-tah Melilla: Meh-li-yah And Mauritania was a mess😂
@maxpuente6291
@maxpuente6291 3 года назад
@El Dimos Karam I’m a Spaniard who speaks Spanish natively and these are their official names in Spanish bro what are you even saying
@ktdoty9921
@ktdoty9921 3 года назад
@El Dimos Karam I mean even in a latino accent it'd be say-oo-tah & may-lee-shah/ may-lee-jah/may-lee-yah, in the video the guy jyst pronounced every thing sooo British lol. Meh-lih-lah and soo-tah 😂
@maxpuente6291
@maxpuente6291 3 года назад
@El Dimos Karam yea guess what, names change, and I don’t think you call Morocco by its Berber name, even tho berbers are the original people of Morocco so go off
@Demostravius
@Demostravius 3 года назад
They are being pronounced in English not Spanish. Mauritania was just totally wrong, but that is how the two cities are called in English.
@ktdoty9921
@ktdoty9921 3 года назад
@El Dimos Karam I was taking about accents Welton spanish from Latin America
@jorge6207
@jorge6207 3 года назад
I'm Portuguese and I approve of this video. I will start mispronouncing every 'spanish' city's name.
@wookie2222
@wookie2222 3 года назад
I'm German and pronouncing probably every place name in Europe that is not a German name wrong. But still, not as wrong as TLDR. XD
@peterfireflylund
@peterfireflylund 3 года назад
@@wookie2222 I pronounce it Breslau... 1) it is correct, 2) it pisses off the Poles...
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@noorschoices977
@noorschoices977 3 года назад
It is not fair that the Europeans plunder the wealth of Africa and exploit their countries and then the Africans do not immigrate to their countries, leave their countries so that they do not immigrate to your countries
@vgjl1824
@vgjl1824 3 года назад
@@wookie2222 We in spain hate germany
@Cross3DG
@Cross3DG 3 года назад
Pro-tip: the double L in Spanish is pronounced like a Y.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@anna3046
@anna3046 3 года назад
He spoke in English! He pronounce names in his own language! Get over it!
@CallieMasters5000
@CallieMasters5000 3 года назад
Yep, he goofed. I almost choked on my tor-till-a when I heard that. Also I think it's More-a-tania, not Ma-rish-iana.
@eris9062
@eris9062 3 года назад
@@anna3046 The thing is, the place is in Spanish, not English, and therefore they should respect their grammatical rules.
@amyfinlayson2762
@amyfinlayson2762 3 года назад
@@anna3046 don’t tell me you’re one of those people that pronounces tortilla “tortila”
@rickybojangles162
@rickybojangles162 3 года назад
Of course Spain was in the right. They're entitled to protect their borders and the European Union shouldn't be subject to blackmail. Morocco should lose any EU funding if they carry on with this nonsense.
@ktayba8303
@ktayba8303 3 года назад
Morocco has the right to claim its old lands back from imperialistic spain
@juanramontorresano2932
@juanramontorresano2932 3 года назад
Ceuta and Melilla had never been from Marocco. Never. It was Spain centuries before Marocco even existed buddy.
@rickybojangles162
@rickybojangles162 3 года назад
@@ktayba8303 they've been Spain's territories for hundreds of years. That's good enough for me and is good enough to comply with international law.
@ktayba8303
@ktayba8303 3 года назад
@@rickybojangles162 they have been morrocan BEFORE SPAIN EXISTED.
@ktayba8303
@ktayba8303 3 года назад
@@rickybojangles162 its geographical enough to be morrocan
@KrisSverige
@KrisSverige 3 года назад
"Moroccan Human Right's Minister" looks like an oxymoron.
@astrumespanol
@astrumespanol 3 года назад
Complaining about someone getting medical treatment and threatening conflict escalation. Yes, sounds about right
@Random-om8rq
@Random-om8rq 3 года назад
@@astrumespanol cry about it
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@TilmanBaumann
@TilmanBaumann 3 года назад
@@astrumespanol yep pretty tone deaf. But the false identity was pretty shady too
@abdelmounaimdaoudi8936
@abdelmounaimdaoudi8936 3 года назад
And you're a MORON for saying that..meanwhile racism against Spanish black people is on the rise.. They're protesting this now, check out the news bud. Looks like human rights in Spain is exemplary! Morocco on the other hand is welcoming Sub-Saharan Africans with open arms.
@alonbinyamin
@alonbinyamin 3 года назад
This is odd. Why would the EU or Spain leave the responsibility for guarding thier own borders to another country? Obviously a country should take ownership of its own borders.
@westonmatthews5501
@westonmatthews5501 3 года назад
Sadly, most Europeans believe that securing their borders is racist, which is why stuff like this happens all the time! 😜
@Quentin-vi4zi
@Quentin-vi4zi 3 года назад
The EU does secure it’s borders, but there are so many refugees in those places that when Morocco or Turkey let them go, an unstoppable wave of people arrive. The EU is however pouring billions into their own European border control so in 10 years time the EU probably will be better protected.
@westonmatthews5501
@westonmatthews5501 3 года назад
@@Quentin-vi4zi Though I do agree with you that the EU has taken some steps to secure its borders, I would never describe its borders as secure. With a yearly influx of almost a million migrants, hopefully it doesn’t take 10 years for them to get that border force up and running! Even then, a border force won’t be effective with loads of immigration lawyers waiting to pounce on any migrant who makes it in. Good luck!
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 3 года назад
@@westonmatthews5501 Simple way for Spain to fix this issue really, decolonise their holdings - the same way they want the UK to decolonise Gibraltar.
@westonmatthews5501
@westonmatthews5501 3 года назад
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Spain is very hypocritical on the Gibraltar issue, but it is hard to make the case that they need to give up their African cities that they have held since Medieval times. Additionally, conceding to Morocco would only encourage bad behavior and migrants can still cross into Spain via the Mediterranean. A serious country that could control its borders would simply not have these problems.
@Naruedyoh
@Naruedyoh 3 года назад
Nobody would call them "secret" precisely, at least not here in Spain
@FriedrichBarb
@FriedrichBarb 3 года назад
It’s secret and never mentioned by Spaniards conveniently when the debate about Gibraltar appears. As saying goes don’t throw rocks in glass houses
@undertone2472
@undertone2472 3 года назад
It's click bait. Most people especially non Europeans aren't educated on the Melilla and Ceuta territories.
@juanmola2000
@juanmola2000 3 года назад
@@FriedrichBarb You are saying it as if Gibraltar was a matter of life and death for Spaniards. Its politics dude, just like the in the UK, the vast majority of the population wouldnt give a crap in practise.
@FriedrichBarb
@FriedrichBarb 3 года назад
@@juanmola2000 Yea majority of Spaniards have much more important politics to worry about same with Brits, but there's still that minority of revanchist Nationalists who don't shut up about it, yet totally ignoring their own enclaves
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 3 года назад
I don’t know why anyone would consider them secret. It’s legitimate Spanish territory since the 15th Century and they well predate the creation of Morocco.
@danielsykes7558
@danielsykes7558 3 года назад
Interestingly, those cities have been Spanish for hundreds and hundreds of years, since the middle ages. It's like saying that Cicily should be "returned" to Tunisia because in the middle ages North African Nations held them. It's the Mediterranean. If we started doing that, we could very well end up ceding everything back to the ottoman empire or the Roman empire. Or Spain (visigothic kingdom) back to the Umayyad Caliphate. They aren't merely "European" outposts in Africa, they are Mediterranean cities with Mediterranean history.
@alejandrosotomartin9720
@alejandrosotomartin9720 3 года назад
It´s like a Turk telling to a Greek that Tessaloniki and Macedonia were once part of the Ottoman Empire and thus they should be given immediately to Turkey. Pure madness.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@samirhendri5937
@samirhendri5937 3 года назад
and also like if Falklands are Argentinian territory and Gibraltar is Spanish territory
@samirhendri5937
@samirhendri5937 3 года назад
Morocco just want back its land in Africa they didn't want Andalusia back
@evilmonkeyfromchriscloset1211
@evilmonkeyfromchriscloset1211 3 года назад
@@samirhendri5937 it's not their lands to begin with. The majority of population is Spanish and catholic. Would they be respected in Morocco? Moreover if Morocco is so righteous why can't it leave Western Sahara gor the people living there to finally decide for themselves.
@Yeosprings
@Yeosprings 3 года назад
It's interesting in some way when in the UK we complain about a few hundred every now and again trying to cross the English channel. Yet there must be thousands walking through countries like Spain,Greece & Turkey etc on a daily basis.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@dr.winner2516
@dr.winner2516 3 года назад
@LandBackDay Sept-30 Lol keyboard warrior spotted
@dr.winner2516
@dr.winner2516 3 года назад
@LandBackDay Sept-30 The majority in Canada is still in favor of immigration. Mad bro?
@corixasksoki2675
@corixasksoki2675 3 года назад
I'm happy that they do Spain is full of elder people and we need youth and at the end of the day borders were created by humans and war but the earth in reality doesn't have borders
@dr.winner2516
@dr.winner2516 3 года назад
@@corixasksoki2675 But the youth unemployment in Spain is very high, bringing more youth wouldn't just let the government raise more taxes
@mattherhorn290
@mattherhorn290 3 года назад
Morishiana? It‘s Mauritania…
@jake3736
@jake3736 3 года назад
That was hard to hear😅, like how do you fuck it up that bad
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@crazydude5714
@crazydude5714 3 года назад
"First time?" - Greece
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@cristinabene1842
@cristinabene1842 3 года назад
Support Spain from Romania 🇷🇴❤️🇪🇸
@alejandrosotomartin9720
@alejandrosotomartin9720 3 года назад
Thank you my Dacian partner. You deserve Moldova. Same flag, same language, same currency, same history.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@reaper7425
@reaper7425 3 года назад
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 good luck from Czechia
@alejandrosotomartin9720
@alejandrosotomartin9720 3 года назад
@@reaper7425 Only one advice for Chequia: Beware of the West. Our societies are dead or on the brink of collapse. USA has a fraudulent anti European and anti white government that stole the elections to Trump, UK is isolated and has not the influence they had in the past, Germany is an occupied and humiliated moribund country whose population is shrinking and brainwashed since childhood and forced to pay still war reparations to Israel, France is close to a Civil War because they accepted too much African migrants, and we in Spain we are too poor, old and irrelevant to be able to change anything even if we have more courage than the French or the Germans. Beware of the Western countries, we are dead. We cannot offer to you nothing but the mortal kiss of the old prostitute. Better look to the East. Friendly advice.
@noorschoices977
@noorschoices977 3 года назад
It is not fair that the Europeans plunder the wealth of Africa and exploit their countries and then the Africans do not immigrate to their countries, leave their countries so that they do not immigrate to your countries
@user-ks9bf9rd7n
@user-ks9bf9rd7n 3 года назад
HAHAHAHHA im dying at how he's saying Melilla
@raceris7309
@raceris7309 3 года назад
Also Mauritania
@gabrielhenschen9665
@gabrielhenschen9665 3 года назад
Mauritiana
@renatoe9648
@renatoe9648 3 года назад
Ceuta was even more painful
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@Fabii2000
@Fabii2000 3 года назад
3:59 I just love that in Spain they have the EU flag next to the Spanish flag for (nearly) all ministry [logos]! And btw the logo just looks cool. Much love to Spain 🇪🇸 ❤️🇪🇺
@sergior.
@sergior. 3 года назад
Much europeanist
@marcobonesi6794
@marcobonesi6794 3 года назад
It's compulsory for every member state
@nicolasmoreno9442
@nicolasmoreno9442 3 года назад
Spain is one of the most europeanist states in the EU and has been for a long time, EU's money injections tend to have such an effect.;)
@Fabii2000
@Fabii2000 3 года назад
@@marcobonesi6794 it isn’t. France, Germany and Austria don’t do this
@marcobonesi6794
@marcobonesi6794 3 года назад
@@Fabii2000 no it is. In fact the member states that refuse receive sanctions.
@NAYRUthunder99
@NAYRUthunder99 3 года назад
Calling Ceuta and Melilla "secret Spanish cities in Africa" is like calling the Falkland "secret British isles in South America". Edit: for those who don't know how to read, I mean that they are not "secret" in any sense of the word.
@FilipeSilva1
@FilipeSilva1 3 года назад
That's a terrible comparaison. Argentina actually hás a good claim, Morocco doesn't
@JimRFF
@JimRFF 3 года назад
Well, to be fair, I'm an American and I'm at least aware of the existence of the Falklands and that a short war between the UK and Argentina left behind rather bitter memories and political tension over the area; I'm also vaguely aware of the separatist movement in Western Sahara/Morocco, but only that there is one, not any of the political nuances; and before this video, I had never once heard of Ceuta or Melilla. So at the very least, they're somewhat more obscure to someone with a limited geographical awareness of the world as a whole and the Mediterranean region in particular (and for what it's worth, I imagine I'm on the upper side of the bell curve when it comes to Americans and geo-political awareness that the rest of the world actually exists too)... But yeah, "not widely known" isn't really the same thing as "secret," which implies some kind of deliberate cover-up haha
@yeout4386
@yeout4386 3 года назад
@@FilipeSilva1 argentina does not have a good claim the brittish where the first permanent settelers and the Falkland islands where brittish before argentina was a country the falklands war was used by the dictator at the time as a distraction
@paxiio5914
@paxiio5914 3 года назад
@@FilipeSilva1 No Argentina doesn't have a claim to be honest
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 2 года назад
Secret to 99.9% of Brits. I worked in Gibraltar one summer, first time I had heard of them. Curiously at that time the Gib border was shut, but you could sail over to Ceuta.
@maximilianbeyer5642
@maximilianbeyer5642 3 года назад
Interesting pronounciation of Mauritania
@And.r.ew.90
@And.r.ew.90 3 года назад
And Melilla
@benfarmer-webb1016
@benfarmer-webb1016 3 года назад
And Ceuta
@JimCullen
@JimCullen 3 года назад
You mean Mauritiania? 😂
@RoScFan
@RoScFan 3 года назад
and the dumb way they pronounce liechtenstein.... leech-tenshtain... lol
@Demostravius
@Demostravius 3 года назад
@@And.r.ew.90 That's how it's pronounced in English.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 3 года назад
Wow, I didn’t now Mauritania is supposed to be pronounced Mauritiana.
@johno1530
@johno1530 3 года назад
it’s not lol
@markfoster2033
@markfoster2033 3 года назад
I thought he'd invented a new country!
@alinobunaga
@alinobunaga 3 года назад
He totally butchered the name,the T should be pronounced as a T not a C. Says a lot about this channel
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@Evemeister12
@Evemeister12 3 года назад
Really? I always thought it was pronounced Mauritania.
@XMysticHerox
@XMysticHerox 3 года назад
Secret? Hardly. They have been in the news quite a few times during the refugee crisis too.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@jake3736
@jake3736 3 года назад
They've been European cities for the bare majority of their life since the Roman Empire. There should be no dispute over them. If Morocco wants them they can build their own cities as Poland built Gydnia to compete with Danzig
@juanmola2000
@juanmola2000 3 года назад
@@anash7 I mean, I dont think you can call that situation colonialism. Would you tell the people living there that all of a sudden they are a part of a country outside of the EU, without a real democracy, no respect for human rights and no social programs, in addition to imposing a religion that the majority of them do not follow? You also have to add that they are full part of Spain and not an overseas territory like Gibraltar or Puerto Rico. Those cities were also conquered before Morocco was a thing, and if Gibraltar being British for 300 years doesnt want to join Spain, what can you expect from those cities being iberian for 500 to 600? Ceuta was conquered before Granada, the claim just makes no sense.
@Venus03
@Venus03 3 года назад
But Poland took over Danzig afterwards 🤔
@ikad5229
@ikad5229 3 года назад
@@juanmola2000 In addition to that, Ceuta has always been controlled by the Peninsula, with the exception of the Almohad and Almoravid period (200-300 years), since their conquest by the Romans. It was controlled from Hispania, then by the Visigoths, then the Caliphate of Córdoba and the Taifas...
@Mikineitor
@Mikineitor 3 года назад
@@anash7 Ceuta and Melilla predate the colonial era for hundreds of years. They are not colonial possessions. Decolonization, on the other hand is a process to give people living in former colonies right to choose what to do. I find it hard to believe ceutans and meilillans would choose to lose personal freedom, economic power and the identity they've had over centuries just because you believe they are a colony.
@mcfusiak5916
@mcfusiak5916 3 года назад
@@Venus03 because Gdańsk is polish city and has been german for barely 150 years? population in 1939 was german because of intensified germanisation and expulsion of poles after annexxing Gdańsk into prussia in 1792(!!!). It was always rightfully polish. If you want Spain to give back their 2 cities in Africa to Morocco then I'd like Turkey to give back Constantinopole back to Greece. The dates of takover are similar(late 15th century) so I guess the city still belongs to Greece and Turkish people are the colonisers in Istanbul.
@rboulkhi
@rboulkhi 3 года назад
I'm not finishing watching if you're gonna cut Morocco from its Sahara...
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor 3 года назад
Truth hurts you?
@issam4737
@issam4737 3 года назад
@@_utahraptor except we're actually own it in real life lmao
@rboulkhi
@rboulkhi 3 года назад
@@_utahraptor I think it hurts you more than it does me. What you don't know is I can be there if I want... I'm a citizen of the Kingdom whose land it is.
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor 3 года назад
@@rboulkhi occupied by
@rboulkhi
@rboulkhi 3 года назад
@@_utahraptor on whose convenience?
@wiseoldwizard
@wiseoldwizard 3 года назад
For a Spanish person hearing him pronouncing Ceuta and Melilla is like hearing someone pronouncing London like *Lead-in*
@delgermuruntsagaankhuu6951
@delgermuruntsagaankhuu6951 3 года назад
This is depressing, morocco is clearly in the wrong here with the deliberate manipulation of thousands of people that are struggling for their own gains here. Shit man this is gonna have such a bad ripple effect into the future
@qwertywillbecool
@qwertywillbecool 3 года назад
Spain is in the wrong, Ceuta and Melilla are colonial relics.
@JorgeGomez-nd4ce
@JorgeGomez-nd4ce 3 года назад
@@qwertywillbecool not exactly. The problem here is that both cities have been part from Castille even before that Spain or Morocco existed as former countries. Specifically from the late XV century. Also people from Ceuta and Melilla are assimilated and dont have an independent movement or identify themselves as moroccans.
@nikolaevkatesla3823
@nikolaevkatesla3823 3 года назад
@@qwertywillbecool and they are not colonies as Gibraltar as they are considered 100% part of Spain with no difference from someone that may live in Madrid. They are free to vote in the elections and all of that
@emilio1659
@emilio1659 3 года назад
@@qwertywillbecool the population there is spanish
@meneither3834
@meneither3834 3 года назад
@@qwertywillbecool do not put the North African countries in the same context as the subsaharan colonized countries. North African have been players in European politics for a long time. Often in an offensive position. They don't get to play the victim cards.
@WowUrFcknHxC
@WowUrFcknHxC 3 года назад
What? People don't know Ceuta and Melilla are Spanish cities? Not just territories, but fully parts of Spain.
@paxiio5914
@paxiio5914 3 года назад
@RoastWorthy And? They are inhabited by Spanish people get over it
@WowUrFcknHxC
@WowUrFcknHxC 3 года назад
@RoastWorthy but they want to be part of Spain, even the non Spanish inhabitants want to be part of Spain.
@WowUrFcknHxC
@WowUrFcknHxC 3 года назад
@RoastWorthy but sometimes they do.
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 года назад
While Morocco's motives might be questionable, is it their duty to control who leaves Morocco? Countries usually want to control who can come in but don't place as many restrictions on who can leave.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@themightycat7238
@themightycat7238 3 года назад
This, why get mad if they don't want to control who goes out, we should control who goes in
@LUN4RA
@LUN4RA 3 года назад
Because Spain and Morocco have an agreement or some shit like that, Morocco gets money for it
@Corfean
@Corfean 3 года назад
I totally agree with you in principle, but this case is different in 2 things: 1, morroco has an agreement to control the border in exchange for money and 2, the government has taken children from schools without their parents permission and sent them to Spain, which is inhumane to say the least
@alvarorubiodomech8327
@alvarorubiodomech8327 3 года назад
Yes is their duty because they are paid more than 100 millions each year for it.
@patu2175
@patu2175 2 года назад
I still can't believe that these videos are on the internet for free. Thank you TLDR News and bless you 🙏
@reheyesd8666
@reheyesd8666 3 года назад
If migration is so good then why is it Morocco and Turkey using it as a weapon against the EU?
@force1535
@force1535 3 года назад
Eu wants those immigrants who can contribute to the economy
@vitas75
@vitas75 3 года назад
@@force1535 all immigrants contribute to the economy. They come to EU for better work opportunities and safety, rather than to freeload.
@PedroGomes-mt3iz
@PedroGomes-mt3iz 3 года назад
@Force 15 The EU doesn’t know what is best for its members. Migration is certainly not one of them. They’re worried that a declining population will make subsidising retirements difficult. Well, news flash, the entire World is suffering from a demographic decline. Migration won’t solve the issue, and the disadvantages severely outweigh the benefits
@jeromeryan4550
@jeromeryan4550 3 года назад
@@vitas75 Not true. Some are net negatives. That's how Turkey and Morocco can blackmail the EU.
@vitas75
@vitas75 3 года назад
@@jeromeryan4550 well yes. The kids are. At least temporarily.
@yalassa1
@yalassa1 3 года назад
There're people living in Ceuta and Melilla, right? Did anyone consider asking them their opinion on this? That seems important.
@ryanlaird6447
@ryanlaird6447 3 года назад
Ask them what would you like an exta 10 thousand people living here
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
By definition people who live in place, live there because of the status they have. So you already know the result. But It just show the hypocrisy of Spain. They want Gibraltar but say nothing on their colonies.
@HF06
@HF06 3 года назад
@@freewal It's not a colony, it's an autonomous region.
@danielsancha6385
@danielsancha6385 3 года назад
@@freewal It is not a colony.
@Mikineitor
@Mikineitor 3 года назад
@@freewal gibraltar has been a bargaining chip between spain and the uk for centuries, whereas ceuta and melilla have been (blissfully for them) from whatever was going on around them for even longer. Ceuta and Melilla would fall to opression and religious extremism and general backwardness should they be given to morocco (which has never ruled over it), do not compare it with what might happen to gibraltar should the uk relinquish it.
@KhaalixD
@KhaalixD 3 года назад
Great video!
@riomnotv7239
@riomnotv7239 Год назад
Great video
@DiegoGarcia-en4sf
@DiegoGarcia-en4sf 3 года назад
You forgot to say that the Moroccan military said to the people that the borders were open and they guided the moroccans into Spain. Also, the situation in Ceuta and Melilla was horrible, all the establishment closed and people didn't go to the street. A city of 10.000 people looked like a desert
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@diegogarcia1546
@diegogarcia1546 3 года назад
hey DIego Garcia xD
@omineol9897
@omineol9897 2 года назад
ceuta is not spain
@diegogarcia1546
@diegogarcia1546 2 года назад
@@omineol9897 it is, xD
@droneerfguf
@droneerfguf 2 года назад
@@diegogarcia1546 cuántos tocayos
@rtwfreak2012
@rtwfreak2012 3 года назад
I do not understand, how someone can be considered a refugee when crossing a border from one safe country to another. I get that that is defined that way in international law, it just seems a stupid definition to me.
@LOLOsugoi
@LOLOsugoi 3 года назад
A refugee is someone who fled their country because it was unsafe for them. So they have a right to ask for asylum. But then there must be an investigation to be sure that they are indeed in danger in their country + they're from the country they say to be from
@BoojumFed
@BoojumFed 3 года назад
Refugee's aren't limited to seeking asylum in the first 'safe' country they come across. If they were then border countries would be immediately overwhelmed...
@christianwhittall5889
@christianwhittall5889 3 года назад
The refugees probably haven’t came from morocco. Morocco is a hard place to live in and refugees are likely moving through morocco to get to spain either because it’s richer or morocco don’t have the resources or willpower to help them
@safaa6599
@safaa6599 3 года назад
Wow who knew so many people had PhDs on politics and history of morocco
@null090909
@null090909 3 года назад
UK: "Gibraltar belongs to us!" Spain: "It's obviously a natural part of Spain" Morocco: "Melita and Ceuta are obviously a natural part of Morocco" Spain: "Those have been historically separated from Morocco for centuries" Catalonia: "Perdoni’m?!"
@Cervando
@Cervando 3 года назад
Except Morocco never existed when Spain occupied both Ceuta and Melilla and thus never owned it. In fact even before Spain took over, they had been occupied by non Africans far, far longer than they were in African hands. Meanwhile, the land between the Rock and La Linea was not part of the treaty. It was leant to the UK to build TEMPORARY field hospitals in order to cope with 2 separate plagues. However, despite the terms, the UK refused to hand them back and in a cowardly manner, took advantage of the Civil War to build the airport illegally.
@ayouberriouch6876
@ayouberriouch6876 3 года назад
@@Cervando the first moroccan kindgom go back to 1200 so what the fuck are you saying
@Cervando
@Cervando 3 года назад
@@ayouberriouch6876 It wasn't called Morocco was it?
@ayouberriouch6876
@ayouberriouch6876 3 года назад
@@Cervando a simple Google search will say that it's established a sovereign nation in 756 just because it called deference name doesn't mean it doesn't exist it will extremely stupid to say that Germany (known back then by prussa) the same can say about china india and many more
@Cervando
@Cervando 3 года назад
@@ayouberriouch6876The first so called 'Morrocan State' in 788 AD, was the Idrisid Dynasty, of South Asian, NOT African descent. Furthermore your examples are terrible, as Germany does not have the same borders as Prussia, and China has existed for over 2 millennia deriving it's name from the Qin dynasty that united it. Italy doesn't claim all Roman territories either, which would include both Ceuta and Melilla, who they captured off Carthage during the Punic wars and later the Byzantine Empire recaptured them again from Berber tribesmen. Whilst later on the the Umayyad Dynasty amongst several different Dynasties and Caliphates occupied the two cities, they were occupied for a much shorter time than Europeans had before them, let alone since.
@BaSsGaZ
@BaSsGaZ 3 года назад
2:58 Correction: the fight didn't resume. The Polisario wanted to make the world believe they were fighting. But there was no fight as Morocco did not end the ceasefire of 1991. Major networks noted that as well.
@cedeno7471
@cedeno7471 2 года назад
But the fact that Brahim Ghali is in Western Sahara and Flew from Western Sahara to Spain to get Medical Treatment is just funny. (Reality : Brahim Ghali flew from Tindouf, Algeria to Spain using an algerian issued fake passport under the name Mohamed Ben Battouche to get into spain) so basically this video is another pro-algeria propaganda video that's all!
@cedeno7471
@cedeno7471 2 года назад
And just to clarify, Western Sahara is a Moroccan a territory !!!!
@cedeno7471
@cedeno7471 2 года назад
Moroccan Spanish relations should resume ASAP !!! We need morocco and morocco needs us!
@jakubekch.3621
@jakubekch.3621 3 года назад
Spain minister casting a dragon Ball style attack made my evening
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@imaboisir7227
@imaboisir7227 Год назад
Need the timestamp
@toade1583
@toade1583 3 года назад
People aren't getting the main grievance for Morocco. Spain undermined Moroccan sovereignty by taking in a rebel leader in land Spain willingly gave to Morocco. This would be like Morocco supporting the Catalan independence movement, of course Spain would get upset. So because Spain basically supported their enemies, Morocco responded by hitting Spain where it hurts the most, migrants.
@burningphoenix6679
@burningphoenix6679 3 года назад
No they didn’t. They gave medical help to a guy with health issues. Nothing more.
@toade1583
@toade1583 3 года назад
@@burningphoenix6679 If an African countries have medical aid to Kim Jong Un or the Iranian, they would dragged through Western media, hell even for things like supporting Palestine, that's all fine and dandy until an Nelson Mandela supports a HAMAS leader and now that African country is bad so no giving medical help to a political opponent of a country you're supposed on good terms with is a dick move and if an African did the same with a enemy to Western nations, they would be seriously reprimanded, but because it's Spain, everyone moves on and acts like giving medical aid to the leader of a rebel group that has been fighting the Moroccan government for decades is somehow ok.
@ubuntu2551
@ubuntu2551 3 года назад
@@burningphoenix6679 that guy is a war criminal.
@xxintixx4638
@xxintixx4638 3 года назад
@@burningphoenix6679 what do you know about that guy? Just wtf you guys are just too innocent to realize what's going on or what
@GXSergio
@GXSergio 3 года назад
yeah secret, like 500 years uninterrupted sovereignty, and more than 2.000 years ago also part of Hispania, the predecessor of nowadays España/Hispania/Spain...
@jorge6207
@jorge6207 3 года назад
Today's 'Spain' is not a predecessor of Hispania. It's a copyright infringement on the part of Castille.
@GXSergio
@GXSergio 3 года назад
@@jorge6207 Hispania Romana vs Modern Hispania: Is Christian ✅ Speaks vulgar latin ✅ Same genetic pool ✅ Same Law code and principles ✅ Share lots of cultural traditions, like bullfighting ✅ Same denomination ✅ Share the same sovereign ✅ (yes the King of Spain is also the legitimate legal heir of the ancient Roman Empire) etc...
@jorge6207
@jorge6207 3 года назад
@@GXSergio There is no modern Hispania. There is the Iberian Peninsula. If you want to use a geographical term use this. Spain (as you think of it) is outdated and completely overtook by the modern kingdom having taken the name, when they are nothing more than a part of it. This is not EU4 or any kind of game and Gibbon died a long time ago.
@samirhendri5937
@samirhendri5937 3 года назад
forgot to mention some 250 years in umayyad an almohavids
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o 3 года назад
Clearly the solution is returning Ceuta to Portugal.
@abbofun9022
@abbofun9022 3 года назад
😂 doubt 🇵🇹 wants it. One big headache.
@alejandrosotomartin9720
@alejandrosotomartin9720 3 года назад
Even Portugal has more rights than Mordor rruecos. And Portu is a much more reliable neighbour than Mordor rroco.
@mimita97
@mimita97 3 года назад
Yeah keep dreaming ☺️
@malekaltayari3936
@malekaltayari3936 2 года назад
No it's better when we North Africans take the Iberian peninsula Andalusia ⚔️🇹🇳🇩🇿🇲🇦🇱🇾⚔️
@princeofsahara2996
@princeofsahara2996 3 года назад
morocco don t need spain, spain need morocco, it s time to get ceute, an mlelia back
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 3 года назад
Dude, they don't want to be Moroccan.
@aitanapalomanespardos7089
@aitanapalomanespardos7089 3 года назад
Who are you speaking for? We want to stay Spanish so let us be it.
@princeofsahara2996
@princeofsahara2996 3 года назад
@@mikicerise6250 black is black , I m prowed to be marocain , even If live in EU
@moredac2881
@moredac2881 3 года назад
Is there a reason Spain doesn’t guard the border themselves, instead of relying on Morocco?
@Darkjwater
@Darkjwater 3 года назад
Spain does guard the border, but the thing is, you cannot get nobody to enter if you are also inside. Therefore, they can jump the walls and run, and then, the spanish can do something, because spanish guards cannot patrol outside it's territory.
@botelladeagua4750
@botelladeagua4750 3 года назад
Cheap labour force for the EU
@Darkjwater
@Darkjwater 3 года назад
@@botelladeagua4750 cheap labour force for the burgoise and an influx of inmigration to make positive the long-time negative demographic development in some areas of Europe.*
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 3 года назад
Yes, politics. When Spanish border guards go to town on African migrants it causes a human rights scandal back home. If Moroccans do it then Spanish government can avoid the blame and say, "oh well, just Morocco being Morocco."
@GXSergio
@GXSergio 3 года назад
The hypocritical progressit government don't like to see on media how their officers beats the people tryng to get in. So they outsource the job to morocco, a country where beating people is like a sport for everybody, specially police.
@The2wanderers
@The2wanderers 2 года назад
I left this video confused. Why is Spain dependent on Morocco to secure its borders. That's not usually the direction these things work. Also, not individually assessing any asylum claims is horrendous. My wife practices refugee law, and the things people get sent back to are unconscionable, but not even giving a hearing is flat out illegal.
@eukarya_
@eukarya_ 2 года назад
Spain pays Morocco to keep the border secure, if Morocco doesn't do it then they aren't fulfilling their part of the deal, Spain has a reason to be pissed.
@The2wanderers
@The2wanderers 2 года назад
@@eukarya_ Thanks. The video didn't make that clear. But that still makes Morocco just an underperforming contractor, for which they should be fired. Being "pissed" still seems like the wrong reaction to have because ultimately, Spain opted to give up control of the situation, and seems to just not want to take responsibility for that choice.
@eukarya_
@eukarya_ 2 года назад
@@The2wanderers There's more nuance to this obviously, Morocco wasn't just an "underperforming benefactor" they deliberately opened the gates to Ceuta and instigated the migrants to cross (there's video evidence for this). It's a similar tactic to that employed by Turkey "give me things or I open the gates". There's also the problem that Morocco claims the citirs of Ceuta and Melilla as their own territory, which also plays a role on this.
@ignamarlo06papermode
@ignamarlo06papermode 3 года назад
The way you pronounced Melilla and Mauritania was god awful
@jamiekelly4663
@jamiekelly4663 3 года назад
Please do a video on Germany looking to abolish vetoes on foreign policy within the EU. Great video as always
@matrix0897
@matrix0897 3 года назад
Yes. The EU is in deadlock. What would be a future proof way of handling it? Without the means to avoid deadlocks no new entries are possible IMHO
@prkp7248
@prkp7248 3 года назад
@@matrix0897 and why should UE be bigger than today?
@cloodberst
@cloodberst 3 года назад
@@prkp7248 Why shouldn't it?
@johnsamuel1999
@johnsamuel1999 3 года назад
@@matrix0897 but new entries to the EU should be accepted by everyone, not just the majority countries
@prkp7248
@prkp7248 3 года назад
@@cloodberst even today number of nations in EU is too high to make fast and strong decisions. And I don't want to live in EU where countries couldn't resist some of the decision because veto would be removed.
@Tecmaster96
@Tecmaster96 3 года назад
It’s absolutely insane that migrants that have crossed into your country can’t be returned if you don’t want them, and you have to give them all years worth of court costs. Laws this insane hurt the principle of human rights because it’s just not… pragmatic. These people crossed illegally into a foreign land. It should be legal to send them back
@thepax6390
@thepax6390 3 года назад
Its a sign of weakness to migrants as well, people claim its a humanitarian gesture, but its not perceived as such in cultures, countries and areas with a history of strong, harsh goverment presence. To them its only *weakness* and weakness gets exploited, *every time* .
@retroanimemike
@retroanimemike 3 года назад
Fully agree wasn't aware there was such a law, in this situation it seems perfectly out of place. I guess the lesson here is never trust the other side to guard your mutual border.
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
No. Moroccans who have crossed the boarder are expelled immediately. In fact many of them crossed by themselves. The purpose of the invasion was just to send a message to Spain. Next time we can bet it will be subaharians, and Morocco have the right to refuse them.
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
@@retroanimemike in particular if you act badly with your partner. Yep.
@googane7755
@googane7755 3 года назад
Its not just that, its the use of state sanctioned illegal migration as a political weapon which is the problem here.
@mouskoutchou4386
@mouskoutchou4386 3 года назад
I stand with Spain 🚶🏻
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@alvarorubiodomech8327
@alvarorubiodomech8327 3 года назад
@Marilyn Monroe They are Spanish cities. They have belonged to Spain for more than 500 years. They are inhabited mostly by Spanish people. Why should Spain renounce to them?
@diegogonzalez9877
@diegogonzalez9877 3 года назад
@Marilyn Monroe The citizens of those African cities don't want to leave Spain. They're full Spanish citizens with the same rights and duties as anyone from the mainland and they're culturally much more aligned with Spain than Morroco. They aren't colonies any more than Hawaii or Corsica are colonies.
@alvarorubiodomech8327
@alvarorubiodomech8327 3 года назад
@Marilyn Monroe Should the Turks go back to east-Siberia, where they originally come from? Should all immigrants that colonize USA go back to where their ancestors come from because the Indians' ancestor go to America first?
@ZDavidH
@ZDavidH 3 года назад
@Marilyn Monroe so America belongs to the indigenous people, Australia too, Gibraltar is Spanish not UK, stfu and dont touch my balls because I have a lot, do a favor and stay in the pine box. Ooooh also the Sahara belongs to the Saharauis not Morocco ;) stfu and think.
@goncaloalves1756
@goncaloalves1756 3 года назад
Im portuguese, but Ceuta and Melilla are european territories, and as such all EU countries should side with Spain in this, it's a matter of stability, honor and values.
@eukarya_
@eukarya_ 3 года назад
As a Spaniard I'm always glad to see our fellow Iberians standing up for us. Thank you! Europe must stay strong in these times.
@oussamamarroqino2579
@oussamamarroqino2579 3 года назад
Little Portuguese fella is still butthurt that The moroccans killed your king and destroyed your empire
@goncaloalves1756
@goncaloalves1756 3 года назад
@@oussamamarroqino2579 1. No, that was centuries ago, we don't care, if anything, we joke about it. 2. Im not sure what you are talking about, the portuguese empire remained pretty much intact until 1821, when brazil became independent, and even then, we still had Angola, Mozambique, Goa, Timor-leste, (etc...) one could say that the portuguese empire only ended in 1999, with the transfer of Macau to China. 3. A lot moroccans, like yourself, seem to take a lot of pride in their ancestors having once defeated a portuguese king and his army, yet you forget that many years before that, they had their asses kicked out of Lisbon, Alentejo, and the Algarve by the portuguese, who later went on to conquer Ceuta, basically giving start to the age of portuguese discoveries and to what would later become the fairly large portuguese colonial empire. 4. I have nothing against Morocco, but Spanish borders are european borders, as such, other european countries cannot tolerate attempts by Morocco to disturbe them, it's pretty simple.
@iamthezoid1643
@iamthezoid1643 3 года назад
Spain's move was questionable but I can't blame them, also yes they have a right to hold onto and should hold onto those territories.
@Tiago.Rezende
@Tiago.Rezende 3 года назад
Ceuta alone has been european for a good 600+ years, Morocco has no claim to it. Y'all can always give it back to Portugal though, we wont complain 😉😉.
@comradeotaku2412
@comradeotaku2412 3 года назад
Okay coloniser
@vitas75
@vitas75 3 года назад
Spain's move was not questionable. It was agajnst every law and convention on human rights. Morocco should be punished, but not the people. Manhandling 5000 immigrants who look for a better future is just downright wrong.
@LewisWallin
@LewisWallin 3 года назад
@@comradeotaku2412 HOW is it colonisation? As stated above, those territories have been European for hundreds of years, they're inhabited by Europeans. That's like saying that Turkey needs to cede Turkish Thrace to Greece and Bulgaria simply because it's part of mainland Europe and not Asia.
@juanmola2000
@juanmola2000 3 года назад
@@Tiago.Rezende I dont think Portugal would want to deal with this headache 😂
@yorielcaraballo2987
@yorielcaraballo2987 3 года назад
Es interesante ver otros puntos de vista
@xShunsen
@xShunsen 3 года назад
What on earth is "Mauritiana"?
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@alvarogonzalezgambini7598
@alvarogonzalezgambini7598 3 года назад
The important fact here is that those cities, back then were pirates denn that were heavily financed by the ottomans to attack Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian cities in the coasts. Spain and Portugal proceded to destroy those fortress of pirates to prevent future attacks. Then both Portugal and Spain fortified those forts and made them cities, along with another two that belonged to Spain too, Oran and Mozalquivir, these two were returned to Tunisia. but Ceuta and Melilla remained Spanish because Spanish people lived there. People need to understand that those cities have always been linked to the Iberian peninsula since times of the Phoenicians, Visigoths, Vandals, Carthaginians Romans and Mozarabs, always connected to nowadays Spain. Morocco didn´t even exist when those cities were formed by Spain or Portugal so their claim is completely invalid.
@elite7329
@elite7329 3 года назад
People need to understand that those cities have been linked to Berber tribes and people even before the times of the Phoenicians, Visigoths, Vandals, Carthaginians, Romans and Mozarabs. Ceuta and Melilla are remnants of a racist European colonial past. The people of Morocco have much bigger claim to those places than any Spanish person does.
@juanjoniebles452
@juanjoniebles452 3 года назад
@@elite7329 That is absurd, it would be like the Greeks claiming Spain’s Mediterranean coast because there were Ancient Greek settlements there.
@javiersaneiro6412
@javiersaneiro6412 3 года назад
@@elite7329 All of these historical claims at the end are not what matters to determine at which country should belong to places like Ceuta, Melilla, or Gibraltar. Is not to Spain, Marrocco, or the UK to choose to decide that, because in those place there live real people, and those are the only ones who have the right to claim to which country they belong. So, if the citizens of Ceuta and Melilla want to be part of Spain then Marocco has no right to claim that territory against this people's wish, and the same happens with Gibraltar, if they want to be in the UK then Spain has no right to claim it as his.
@alvarogonzalezgambini7598
@alvarogonzalezgambini7598 3 года назад
@@elite7329 No, and No. When you have a hub of pirates that attack my land, kill my people and take them as slaves to another continent you don´t get to pull that argument. And second, Moroccans are not berbers, they are arabs. So there is no correlation. Have a nice day.
@sdfgalaico-lusitano5203
@sdfgalaico-lusitano5203 3 года назад
@@elite7329 Colonialism in the fifteenth century, that's a bit anachronistic don't you think?
@convecti0n
@convecti0n 3 года назад
“Muh-lil-uh”, “Soo-tah”… even “More-ih-shi-a-nah” (Mauritania). Great video, but your pronunciation of these place names could use some love 😊
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@vasilzahariev5741
@vasilzahariev5741 3 года назад
AT 2:19 Mauriciana instead of Mauritania lmao
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@Ateesh6782
@Ateesh6782 3 года назад
I watch almost all your videos to stay in tune with world events and appreciate all the work and time you put into them. One suggestion I would have is this: it would be sort of important to pronounce the names of the countries/cities etc. somewhat right. [suutah] for Ceuta is the British pronounciation, no problem there; [meleelah] is a borderline case-the British pronounciation is [meleeyah] and is stated on Wikipedia. But when you mentioned Mauritania, that was more of a guess than anything else. Your content is excellent, this is just a suggestion for improvement. Thanks!
@yuzk2
@yuzk2 3 года назад
Agreed, it makes otherwise very professional content feel a little less professional
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@doktorcool3740
@doktorcool3740 3 года назад
Six months of "Europe ignores Marocco completely - no trade, no support, no travel" should be enough to humble those Maroccan politicians who overrate their importance. Yes, it hits the people, but then maybe they elect better leaders next time.
@mimovil8730
@mimovil8730 3 года назад
The Moroccan King and his advisors, as well as the makhzen and the few selected elites that exist control Morocco. The Moroccan PM barely has any power when it comes to making consequential solutions. This is particularly relevant when it comes to foreign policy. Something to bear in mind.
@vitas75
@vitas75 3 года назад
Not happening. EU is only words, no action. We can see this ti e and time again including brexit and russia. As much as I am pro EU, i hate this aspect of it.
@jaimegil2176
@jaimegil2176 3 года назад
They don't elect their leaders in regards to foreign policy, the country is essentially an absolute monarchy and those who criticize that end up in jail, usually for life although the elites have been losing control in the last decades and part of the internal affairs are carried by an elected government and parliament(of course only with the approval of said elites and Monarchy)
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
@@mimovil8730 not true. The diplomacy and défense topics are under the executive powerr, meaning the Royal house. The Constituons of 2012 is verry clear. All other power are on the hands of a free elected gouvernement. European Union for instance completly validated true result of the Moroccans elections for the last 30 years. There is an opposition and alternance. Nope you are a saying billshit.
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
France is on the side of Morocco. Spain is divided and politically and economically weak right now. Morocco is supported by strong allies. United States is the number one. Your idea is a very bad idea. It will just push Morocco to China and Russia, and you will have a new proxy at 16km of Europe. Morocco is the best European partner in Africa and in this region. Europe can not afford to loose it.
@Orbirik
@Orbirik 3 года назад
you missed the core issue. The reason why Morocco is bold comes from economy (as always). Morocco is the top exporter of phosphates, which are necessary for modern farming. The US and France, who have strong and large farming industry, want to be friendly with Morocco for getting good deals. And that entails turning a blind eye or even acknowledging Morocco occupation on Western Sahara, despite unlawful under UN Law.
@MrPeanut656565
@MrPeanut656565 3 года назад
Both the US and France are supporting Morocco over Spain due to these economic and geopolitical reasons. France even voted against the european resolution condemning the unlawful military invasion by the Moroccan Army in the "Isla Perejil", disrupting the status quo. This lead to a military clash between Spain and Morocco in 2003. In addition, USA and Morocco performed a massive military exercise around the Canary Islands (another debated territory, which Exclusive Economic Zone Morocco is continually traspassing). In this exercise, several American and Moroccan fighters infringed Spanish Airspace without notifying air control. Such wonderful allies...
@steviefernandez88
@steviefernandez88 6 месяцев назад
Careful and correct pronunciation of names and titles shows respect.
@saurabhdang7307
@saurabhdang7307 3 года назад
Spain has right for soverginity
@wazy1852
@wazy1852 3 года назад
So does Morocco.
@samirhendri5937
@samirhendri5937 3 года назад
do you talk about catalonia?
@omineol9897
@omineol9897 2 года назад
same for catalonia
@Superbonnuit
@Superbonnuit 3 года назад
omg the pronunciation is killing me. I can't continue
@Amozmusicmaker
@Amozmusicmaker 3 года назад
"Mauritiana"
@deviationblue
@deviationblue 3 года назад
Yeahhhh same, super-bon-new-it
@lucaesposito6896
@lucaesposito6896 3 года назад
He really can't do a 4 minute research trying to emulate the right pronunciation, anytime he pronounce something Italian my ears bleed
@mayor4797
@mayor4797 3 года назад
just watch one of the ireland videos. "the island of island"
@jake3736
@jake3736 3 года назад
@@lucaesposito6896 fr like it doesn't have to be perfect but atleast get it in the ballpark😂
@mademedothis424
@mademedothis424 3 года назад
There were many ways I thought the attempt at pronouncing "Ceuta and Melilla" could go, and yet I was entirely unprepared for the mouth noises I was actually presented with. Huh.
@deviationblue
@deviationblue 3 года назад
Mauritania too
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@sezo3820
@sezo3820 3 года назад
My mother and grandmother were born in Melilla!
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@scottypacheco5574
@scottypacheco5574 3 года назад
For the love of God, next time you do a video on foreign places, Google how to pronounce them. It would be like a foreigner pronouncing "through" with a hard "G" sound. Painful for the ears.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@UTubeTulip
@UTubeTulip 3 года назад
Shouldn't it be up to Spain to protect their border?
@certaindeath7776
@certaindeath7776 3 года назад
spain is in schengen agreement. so spains outside borders to non eu countries are as well spains concern, as concern of whole eu
@UTubeTulip
@UTubeTulip 3 года назад
@@certaindeath7776all the more reason they shouldn't depend on Morocco to secure them
@maggie6100
@maggie6100 3 года назад
We protect our borders, there are videos about them in RU-vid But there are too many inmigrants and Human Rights don't let us send them back
@certaindeath7776
@certaindeath7776 3 года назад
if people really want it, there is no way u stop them. the most sad thing is that they come with a totally untrue vision of europe, and then when they are here, best they can get is somewhat slavery or beeing in social system and useless person like all a lot of people without perspective here. and whats even more sad, is, that that is often better then life where this people come from
@noahkirkpatrick3528
@noahkirkpatrick3528 3 года назад
The EU pays Morocco Millions of Euros every year to patrol the borders. They are supposed to stop migrants from reaching the fences. Spain protects the border from within, but an avalanche of thousands at once is impossible to hold back.
@spitfire7482
@spitfire7482 3 года назад
Morocco : relax the boarders EU : and I took that personally
@daniesmar
@daniesmar 3 года назад
Morroco was even paid to reinforce the border and now they have done this. And it is indeed personal because the morrocan government has admitted that it is because the Polisario front leader traveled to Spain to get medical attention.
@mindandbody7791
@mindandbody7791 3 года назад
@@daniesmar how much 100 millions euro, they spend much much more than that to stop those immigrants
@daniesmar
@daniesmar 3 года назад
@@mindandbody7791 well, it doesn't matter. They agreed to it. They also get a special diplomatic and economic status with the EU.
@mindandbody7791
@mindandbody7791 3 года назад
@@daniesmar, yes, but you can't host a wanted criminal with fake id who threatened Morocco security, and expecting Morocco to care about your security,i believe it's Hypocrisy when they sport 'liberation movement as they call it' in Morocco but they opress Catalonian movement at the same time, Morocco don't accept to be blackmail with sahara issue as well
@daniesmar
@daniesmar 3 года назад
@@mindandbody7791 but morroco is free to expell those migrants from morroco. Furthermore, they don't come from Spain. I don't see how does Spain blackmail morroco with the WS issue, but if it does, it's wrong too.
@UTubeTulip
@UTubeTulip 3 года назад
Love to hear Jack say tortilla
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
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@javiTests
@javiTests 3 года назад
Spaniard here. I'm sorry but I've been laughing every time I heard "Melila" 😂. It's OK but quite funny at the same time. The pronunciation (more or less) of "ll" is like the "J" in "Just" for example, so "lla" would sound like "dʒʌ".
@LoEMDubstep
@LoEMDubstep 3 года назад
¿Andaluz verdad? jejejejeje
@FriedrichBarb
@FriedrichBarb 3 года назад
Literally who cares, it’s the English accent, there is no “J” for “lla” in English, he is using his language Spaniards saying English cities 95% of them would say it incorrectly also, but this isn’t anyone’s fault it’s just how accents work. -_-
@javiTests
@javiTests 3 года назад
@@FriedrichBarb Yes, that's why I said that it was OK. If you want to learn it fine, if not, it's fine as well. We can understand what we mean, so that is what matters. But as a Spaniard living in the UK (of course my English accent is far from perfect), I like to learn how to speak properly so I guess I think other people people would like to do so as well, but maybe I'm totally wrong here...
@javiTests
@javiTests 3 года назад
@@LoEMDubstep 🙈 you got me!
@LoEMDubstep
@LoEMDubstep 3 года назад
@@javiTests pillao miarma. Yo diría meliya, no sé cuál es el fonema
@kubanik
@kubanik 3 года назад
Althought they are not part of the mainland, it’s wrong to call Ceuta and Melilla overseas territories. They are integral parts of the Spanish state just like any other area of Spain. They elect deputies to congress, are full citizens, etc. The relationship between Mainland Spain and these cities is VERY different from British overseas territories
@AtomicBoo
@AtomicBoo 2 года назад
Yup, it would be like calling hawaii an overseas territory, its a full on state (unlike Puerto rico, us virgin islands, guam, etc but thats a different story) ceuta and melilla are full on spanish cities!!!
@flappetyflippers
@flappetyflippers 3 года назад
lol the UK just like "excuse me" tbf that was my reaction
@EuanMcG
@EuanMcG 3 года назад
Love the channel but you should really look up the pronunciation of loads of these places/terms before recording
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
W•h•a•t•s•a•p•p • m•e • n•o•w • t•o • i•n•v•e•s•t • i•n • a•l•l • c•r•y•p•t•o • c•u•r•r•e•n•c•y. +•1•4•1•5•8•2•5•6•3.•7•8
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 3 года назад
Hopefully Spain and Morocco will be able to work something out that doesn't involve using thousands of people as pawns.
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
First the sovreignity of Morocco should be respected. But yes both part has interests to collaborate. No more backstab
@sabirsabir-mo1cs
@sabirsabir-mo1cs 3 года назад
Ceuta and Melilla are for Morocco And the Moroccan government provides the colonizer with water and electricity. This is crazy
@alejandrosotomartin9720
@alejandrosotomartin9720 3 года назад
But that is because you didn't go to school. Poor dumb moor.
@mrstarbuck9212
@mrstarbuck9212 3 года назад
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 Yes we are Moor and we are proud. We did two mistakes in history, when the Arabs sent us to Spain to fight for them, and when we built Spain.
@alejandrosotomartin9720
@alejandrosotomartin9720 3 года назад
@@mrstarbuck9212 1st thing is true. 2nd Definitely not..
@mrstarbuck9212
@mrstarbuck9212 3 года назад
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 Don't be ashamed of your history, we are neighbors for thousands of years and we know each others before the creation of the EU. You are not innocents and we are not innocents either.
@xxintixx4638
@xxintixx4638 3 года назад
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 facts as my g up here said don't be ashamed or somehow racist ;-;
@JG-my9mj
@JG-my9mj 3 года назад
I would love a tldr history channel
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 3 года назад
Malila and maurishaunia are my favourite places
@noelstr
@noelstr 3 года назад
Please just look up the pronounciation of those place names on google translate before recording… you can get a pretty good pronunciation approximation from that so it doesn’t sound so ridiculous
@nicolasmoreno9442
@nicolasmoreno9442 3 года назад
Although the historical facts presented in the clip are technically correct, they may be misleading. Ceuta was never Moroccan, it was conquered from the Benemerins by the Portuguese, hence its flag similar to Lisboa's. Saying they were moroccans would be akin to say Julius Caesar was italian. Meilla was an abandoned land because of conflicts between the Kingdoms of Fez and Tlemcen, when the Castilians arrived it was settled without violence. Gibraltar is much more British than this two enclaves are Moroccan.
@shelleyscloud3651
@shelleyscloud3651 3 года назад
TLDR claim objectivity but their bias constantly leaks out.
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
So they were Moroccans before they were Portuguese and Spanish. Thank you for the confirmation. Morocco exist since 789. By the way, how Spain could claim Gibraltar, after signing the treaty of Utrecht giving the sovregnity of this territory to Great Britain and refuse than Morocco ask to retrieve its territory … whereas Morocco never signed any agreement recognising those territories I call it hypocrisy. Same for the referundum. No to Catalonia and Pais Basco. But yes for the Sahara ? ETA is a terrorist mouvement. But Polisario is a liberation mouvement ? Gibraltar is occupied. But not Ceuta and Melilia. Yeah Spain diplomacy is the definition of hypocrisy. This country is the most divided politically of Europe and I see why.
@AinaWarCrim
@AinaWarCrim 3 года назад
@@freewal I have to admit, that the politics of our country are full of hypocrisy, but yet that is what populism and nationalism does. And today, politics are more and more populist in most countries. Morocco, as we know it today, wasn't there yet, there were different kingdoms and dynasties. You can't say that it belongs to Morocco or that these cities are occupied, because today's Morocco didn't exist and it means that legally claiming those territories isn't going to work unless that country existed so long ago. Gibraltar wasn't occupied. Spanish independence movements don't really have an excuse to doing those things, as most of the reasons are just populist and nationlist ideologies making false claims about historical things (atleast the catalonian movement). Yet, Morocco occupied the Sahara even after there was an agreement to make a referendum, and then moved hundreds of thousands of moroccans to the Sahara, which would ruin everything. The saharaui people resisted to that. And it's just that. Morocco is making aggresive moves in the diplomatic world, and they should stop.
@freewal
@freewal 3 года назад
@@AinaWarCrim Morocco will continue to respond to every provocation made by Spain or any party. Moroccans society is poorer than Spain, it didn’t benefit of all the aids European Union gave to Spain to develop its economy, still Morocco is much more United than the Spanish people. And you know it. Playing with your partner on his back, is a terrible idea. The current gouvernement in Spain is a mess.
@lmlmd2714
@lmlmd2714 3 года назад
To be fair, they did say the Moroccan case is incredibly weak and that Morocco has never submitted any meaningful evidence to back up it's claim, which is pretty accurate.
@manny1085
@manny1085 3 года назад
Just fyi in spanish you pronounce the "ll" like in melilla sort of like a y so you would pronounce it "meliya".
@BCa-wk7gu
@BCa-wk7gu 3 года назад
They need to send all these people to the homes of Human Rights Watch employees and they can take care of them while their cases are waiting to be reviewed. Why would they mind if they are so concerned.
@picker2152
@picker2152 3 года назад
Should spain hold on going forward this territories? its like saying; should turkey hold on istanbul? continents it does not defines contries. Plus, spain had control in this cities in roman times with "hispania transfretana" and the "regnum gothorum", goth kindom of spain. There is not such discussion posible about how spanish this land are.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
W•h•a•t•s•a•p•p • m•e • n•o•w • t•o • i•n•v•e•s•t • i•n • a•l•l • c•r•y•p•t•o • c•u•r•r•.e•n•c•y. +•1•4•1•5•8•2•5•6•3•7•8
@denzelsmashsymptom4264
@denzelsmashsymptom4264 3 года назад
They took those cities after waging war. Furthermore those cities were lost to the Portuguese and then spanish enclaves but only after the fall of Portugal to the spanish crown, they took hold of both cities even though it was Morocco who defeated the Portuguese (Spain just took advantage of the situation) Morocco has since been trying to get the cities back diplomatically to avoid another bloody Iberian war.
@picker2152
@picker2152 3 года назад
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 i deeply respect your opinion (well, i respect every opinion), but your say it's not accurate. In 1640 (in the portuguese independence) the territory that we now as portugal pleed loyalty to there portuguese new king (juan IV) seperating themselfs from Felipe IV. every singel portuguese territory except ceuta, which they pleed loyalty to the spanish king (back then the population was mostly spanish). In that year the citizens of ceuta chose to be spanish and not portuguese. Thats way ceuta has the title of "noble, loyal and faithful" . in second hand, the morococan never keept in pece with ceuta. since then ocurd numerous battles, and very blody ones. ist apropiate to remeber the longest sige of the history, ocurd in ceuta, by muylay ismail, king of moroco, in 1694-1727. This dinasty lost (which is the antecesor of the actual king of moroco) lost this war and reconise the spanish soverinity of ceuta and melilla with the actual borders in the treaty of wad rass. A reconision that moroco dont wont to remember. But like i said, i respect your opinion, and the only opinion that matters its what the law says
@denzelsmashsymptom4264
@denzelsmashsymptom4264 3 года назад
@@picker2152 First of all I would like to say that this video is keeping many important facts hidden and is a baised opinion of someone who is clearly supporting Spain. I know very much about the siege, but such battles and wars are only natural. Spain would have done the same if some Andalucian city remained on Europe. The cities might be Spanish now and Portuguese before but part of a Moroccan dynastie and Sultanate at first, if Spain is refusing to negociate on the basis that the Morocco of today wasnt the holder of the enclaves because of government change well so are they: Spain back then was a different country with a different name under different rule . Furthermore, how can they blindely ask for Gibraltar and keep the cities, they are trying to completely monopolise the strait Now what I want to prove is that it is outerly hypocritical that Morocco has been such a good neighboor during many years, promoting economical exchange, signing mutual win-win agreements and sharing critical data on terrorist activities while Spain is back stabbing the country by accepting this separatist leader. Morocco has on multiple occasions denied meetings with spanish Catalan independence leaders but many of the viewers are ignorant of such good will treatment and blindly support Spain without knowing the facts since it is an EU contry.
@picker2152
@picker2152 3 года назад
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 i agrre with you in many things, and i respect your knowledge. But the diference beetwin gibraltar and ceuta its that gibraltar its involve in a proces of decolonisation by the UN and ceuta dont. thats way spain ask for gibraltar (witch i think its comletle unfair). Spain has a legal case on gibraltar and moroco dont have the same with ceuta. If moroco had a legal case to get ceuta they would ask for it in the UN. Way spain would negociate anything? would you negociate your house with pepole who dont have legal case for it? If morocco want it, needs to ask for it in the UN. But who knows, maybe there is things behind the scene that we dont now
@MaliciousDiscontent
@MaliciousDiscontent 3 года назад
Where is "Morrishiana"? I have a first class honours in Geography and Politics and live in London - let me work for you. The biggest cities in Mauritania are Nouakchott, Nouadhibou and Chinguetti :)
@aleiucamara1948
@aleiucamara1948 Год назад
Nice
@hipiticlivi7400
@hipiticlivi7400 3 года назад
Saying that Ceuta is in Africa like is in another world when you could go swimming from the peninsula to Ceuta.
@mozojjhy3300
@mozojjhy3300 3 года назад
shut up mamito😂
@loumcast
@loumcast 3 года назад
What Spain needs to do is electrified the border fence and let the migrants try to cross it. Great Britain has territories/colonies all over, including Gibraltar which it stole from the Spanish Kingdom, Spain has only Ceuta and Melilla, two cities/autonomous regions in northern Africa which were stablished long before Morocco came to be.
@themacso4157
@themacso4157 3 года назад
It would be better just if all of those colonial powers just leave those territories. Uk should not be in spain amd spain should not be in morocco. Unnecessary problems arise.
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor 3 года назад
@@themacso4157 ceuta and Melilla are Spanish Christian majority cities that have been like that for 5 centuries. They hit their own self administration and autonomy. And the people wanna be Spanish. Consider if they really are colonies
@themacso4157
@themacso4157 3 года назад
@@_utahraptor they really are. It's a time bomb. If not things are gonna get ugly...
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor 3 года назад
@@themacso4157 ok dude whatever u say but know Spain will defend its land...
@themacso4157
@themacso4157 3 года назад
@@_utahraptor logically something like that would happen
@jorgemanrique743
@jorgemanrique743 3 года назад
500 years being from Spain, secret xD.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
W•h•a•t•s•a•p.•p • m•e • n•o•w • t•o • i•n•v•e•s•t • i•n • a•l•l • c•r•y•p•t•o • c•u•r•r•e•n•c•y. +•1•4•1•5•8•2•5•6•3•7•8
@wheneggsdrop1701
@wheneggsdrop1701 3 года назад
When I saw the comments about how you said the names I thought it was slight but no they where not joking.
@rebelgusanos
@rebelgusanos 3 года назад
Yes
@JohnDoe-zc3fg
@JohnDoe-zc3fg 3 года назад
Both countries are supposed to have physical control of their respective sides of the border. How did Moroccan refugees get through the Spanish side of the border? Was it siesta?
@freewal
@freewal 2 года назад
Morocco is not the gendarme of Spain. Each country is responsible of its boarder. This is written in the International laws
@emib6599
@emib6599 3 года назад
Migrants crisis on european border, with the addition of disputed overseas territories.... so nothing new under the sun.
@sarahkancuaski1396
@sarahkancuaski1396 3 года назад
W•h•a•t•s•a•p•p • m•e • n•o•w • t•o • i•n•v•.e•s•t • i•n • a•l•l • c•r•y•p•t•o • c•u•r•r•e•n•c•y. +•1•4•1•5•8•2•5•6•3•7•8
@TheBadremo
@TheBadremo 3 года назад
Very soon a green March....on the 2 amazigh african moroccan enclaves... The game is over dear neighbors
@jacksontaylor5708
@jacksontaylor5708 3 года назад
TLDR History Channel? Yes.
@rnanni1048
@rnanni1048 3 года назад
What is the secret part about these city’s? Or am i to wel educated for this...
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