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Sparring Thai Dual Swords Versus Spear | HEMA and SE Asian Arts 

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Another friendly round between me and George. He is not very practiced with the spear since he is mainly a JKD/Kali practitioner but we were having fun just randomly going through weapons the other night. I am doing Krabi-Krabong which is the Thai weapon art. In this case, I have two Thai Dhabs, a traditional symbol of the Thai martial history.

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@rayongman
@rayongman 3 года назад
I'm Thai and i am a double sword trainer (Budtaisawan style). the guy in this vdo , his move is great!!! respect!!
@notfair3581
@notfair3581 3 года назад
i think so ,we should ajust them into the real situation that you can see a various opponent and style ,Never stick to original.
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@muayboran6111
@muayboran6111 2 года назад
Ancient thai don't use duel swords my man ใช้โล่คับ ดาบไทยโดนแรงกระแทกหลุดจากด้ามเเน่
@mrrhum3311
@mrrhum3311 2 года назад
@@muayboran6111 I've always been sceptical of the Thai two-sword system. A sword makes a rather poor off-hand weapon as compared to a shield or a shorter blade. The only other two-sword system I'm aware of is from Iberian vulgar fencing and it seems more like a kind of flashy exercise than a martially-sound system to me. Still, the two-sword krabikrabong is pretty well-established now, so I say go with it! BTW, daap or dap, not dhab.
@based_prophet
@based_prophet 2 года назад
Not he isn't he just used his feet right anyone can do it u can today if you don't skip around with the same leg forwards creates tomany openings n way tomany counters find the quickest route n when u see it attack in nature but with the speed of lightning n retract as so
@knight1506
@knight1506 5 лет назад
the guy with duel sword is so good against range disadvantage
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight 5 лет назад
Battles are fluid and that is a short spear. I have a video of myself using the same spear in a smaller area, against someone with a blade, for reference ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WyYHWS4E3V0.html Granted, the spear weirder in this video isn't very experienced with the weapon
@alexbokuto5353
@alexbokuto5353 3 года назад
@@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight in your video spear-fighter is most better than here
@orenges
@orenges 6 месяцев назад
as we ALL SHOULD be
@alessandrolizzio6338
@alessandrolizzio6338 3 месяца назад
Range isn't everything
@mpolodz7233
@mpolodz7233 2 года назад
Respect for the duel sword guy but It seems that the spear guy saw a spear the first time in his life shortly before making this video.
@celinreyes1983
@celinreyes1983 2 месяца назад
I agree, I don't question the skill of the double sword wielder, but the spear guy has poor footwork, and no ability to create openings. At the end of the video, the double sword guy invites an attack with a a wideopen guard. Against a skillful spear wielder,he wouldn't dare.
@stefan1977full
@stefan1977full 2 года назад
The one with the spear does not know the basic attack by which you reduce the distance instantly. The one with the spear uses only attacks through which the one with the swords can control the distance very easily.
@alessandrolizzio6338
@alessandrolizzio6338 3 месяца назад
The sliding trhust would not do any damage in a real fight (unless you hit the face but its pretty easy to dodge strikes to the head)
@krystofcisar469
@krystofcisar469 16 дней назад
@@alessandrolizzio6338 you ever got hit with sliding thrust or what? :D you can definitely put some wight behind sliding thrust, the slide is just to assure you gonna hit first and add weight after imapct.
@horizonblack
@horizonblack 2 года назад
There is a solid skill difference between these two fighters.
@lando1980
@lando1980 Год назад
I think this is the only video showing proper niten tech. The cross attack in the begining is superb. Bravo.
@joelanajao571
@joelanajao571 3 года назад
I think the guy with spear need to practice and learn the advantages of spear against sword
@di9465
@di9465 8 месяцев назад
The spear guy paid for the battle pass while the dual sword guy is a free to play player
@sam12149
@sam12149 3 года назад
I'm pretty envious of this. My country's sword art is pretty much gone, reduced to theatrical combat and fake masters.
@epic-zc3oo
@epic-zc3oo 3 года назад
chinese?
@sam12149
@sam12149 3 года назад
@@epic-zc3oo cambodian
@user-cs2xx7ts4h
@user-cs2xx7ts4h 3 года назад
Yo, neighbor country guy, I as a Thai ain't have no swords at home. They're quite rare even to our own people.
@taejo4975
@taejo4975 2 года назад
@@user-cs2xx7ts4h Yep you can only find it in place like Ayutthaya where people like recreating things
@renchi6989
@renchi6989 2 года назад
Kru Prang and Master Nu (Phitsanu) they both are encycopedia of krabi-krabong but not many people know about them ( may be not with kru prang cause he has big gym in bangkok) Master Nu he teaching in University and he also has RU-vid Chanel
@culturetoronto
@culturetoronto 2 года назад
inspiring stuff. gave me a ton of ideas. thank you.
@londiniumarmoury7037
@londiniumarmoury7037 4 года назад
Nice, it doesn't matter if he isn't good with a spear yet, key word being "yet." For everyone who has a problem with the spear user being a noob, think about it properly. Everyone has to start somewhere with a new weapon. If he doesn't fight as a noob he will never become a master. So noobs should be encouraged, we were all noobs once. Plus it also is good for martial artists to fight beginners, because we are all used to fighting other trained people, which is actually unrealistic to do allt he time. Because if you ever do get attacked with a weapon like a machete or sword, it most likely wont be from an experienced master fencer lol. The guy trying to rob your shop most likely isn't an expert, so you should train Vs all different skill level of opponents.
@matthewsteele5229
@matthewsteele5229 4 года назад
The problem isn’t that he’s a noob, it’s that he’s so much less competent than the swordsman and yet the video is depicting this as spear vs Thai swords. The weapons are being compared and yet the wielders are not equal in skill. It’s an unfair comparison
@londiniumarmoury7037
@londiniumarmoury7037 4 года назад
@@matthewsteele5229 Well it's true, we can all see the skill gap between them, so I don't think anybody would take this as a direct fair weapon comparison. We can mostly see this, not everything has to be a fair fight, there's nothing wrong with letting less skilled people use a weapon type and comparing how a better fighter does with a different weapon. I never got the impression they were saying "Look the sword beat the spear, therefore swords are better" I like seeing mismatched fights they tend to be fun to watch and participate in.
@Number-ze9up
@Number-ze9up 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F3-iCEoKuFQ.html
@LanChiaoPeng
@LanChiaoPeng 2 года назад
"Professionals are predictable, amateurs are dangerous."
@londiniumarmoury7037
@londiniumarmoury7037 2 года назад
@@LanChiaoPeng That's a pretty good saying, where is it from or did you make it up? it's somewhat true, sometimes a beginner can be more difficult to settle in with, as they are wild, with an experienced fighter, they will respect certain threats, where a noob might not be aware of the threat and do something stupid that can cause a double if you dont beware of the noobs wild swings.
@allorigintraining-garagego6820
@allorigintraining-garagego6820 2 года назад
This looks like a great sparring drill. Love the training weapons. Did you make them yourself or could you refer a website where you purchased them?
@smlyblkct
@smlyblkct 2 года назад
A pair of 50cm wooden stick would be great. Wrap them with some old clothes or a tire rubber and you ready to go. Make it from scratch 👌
@iansullivan9738
@iansullivan9738 3 года назад
It took me 30 minutes of searching youtube, but I finally found someone who knows how to fight double sword. Well done.
@sal_vulcano_maybe6873
@sal_vulcano_maybe6873 3 года назад
@@Aleks-dg9cx It's this video my guy. I really want to see this guy against an experienced polearm user (no offence to the one in the video)
@agarlicsorbet6482
@agarlicsorbet6482 3 года назад
That is just terrifying how dual sword guy charges towards the spear guy once the defense is breached.
@sheena1521
@sheena1521 3 месяца назад
This looks so fun.
@carltomacruz9138
@carltomacruz9138 2 года назад
Why is the spearman not using the spear like a spear?
@martinhenzl
@martinhenzl 10 дней назад
buckler on left hand holding the spear, dagger in right hand holding the spear - that's how we did it (just friends having fun, no martial art)
@sibsart2039
@sibsart2039 3 месяца назад
Great job, hard to get in against a spear.
@gabrieljohnson161
@gabrieljohnson161 3 года назад
If I was the spear guy and this is coming from being a complete noob who hasn’t held one before but would you widen your grip even though your fighting a dual swords user or whatever can’t you use the middle of the spear to block then come around with the back of the spear to disorient them then go in with a thrust straight to the heart? I don’t know the rules so I apologize if I’m wrong here
@robertheisenberg6867
@robertheisenberg6867 3 года назад
The Thai dual sword actually came from Mons and used in battle as the back line of the spear men. It because popular because it was anti spearmen weapon and widely use in police force until the end of Martini Henry.
@NattapolPhorueng
@NattapolPhorueng 3 года назад
Tai,Mon is acctually melt of Thai aka Siamese and MON people, Mon is one of Siamese not just only Tai, approx one thousand year live along together i'm not surprised, First Dynasty of Ayudhaya have a Mon blood as well most of traditional of Mon still exist in the Thai royal tradition such the consecrated water "Bhipat Sattaya" is acctually Mon tradition. this tradition appear since tanggo/ayothaya empire an still exist nowadays in Thailand. Mon is acctually people of central of south asia.
@shalomcollege6482
@shalomcollege6482 3 года назад
I hope the kid with spear has improved.
@heirihunziker
@heirihunziker 2 года назад
What company can one buy those training swords from? Are they made of nylon or some other synthetic material?
@californiacombativesclub202
@californiacombativesclub202 5 лет назад
This is savage dude!
@JohnsonPea986
@JohnsonPea986 2 года назад
Like I said, kids are cruel, Jack...and I'm very in touch with my inner child!
@krystofcisar469
@krystofcisar469 16 дней назад
I´d prefer 1 sword over 2 so you can grab and wrestle the spearman eventually :D but nice sparring, was cool to watch.
@akesubannarat
@akesubannarat 3 года назад
what if the sword guy had a bastard sword in one hand and an arming sword in the other?
@rayray6490
@rayray6490 5 дней назад
The double swords guy is very good but the spear guy is basically using a short spear which is slightly longer than a rifle-mounted bayonet
@jasoncashmore-everton3180
@jasoncashmore-everton3180 Год назад
where can i buy a training spear like the one the guy in this video is using?
@storiesofvalue
@storiesofvalue 3 года назад
where to buy that mask
@ToshiiTheBlack
@ToshiiTheBlack 3 года назад
That man with the spear is afraid. This is sad.
@soponsivilai865
@soponsivilai865 11 месяцев назад
สุดยอดครับ❤
@JadeBlades098
@JadeBlades098 3 месяца назад
After a quick internet search, it seems like the word “Dha/Dhab” just means “Sword”, and comes up with a lot of different weapons. Does anyone know a term specifically for these short blades?
@metalbasher820
@metalbasher820 2 года назад
Before criticizing the spearman skill, the biggest problem is his spear is too short for him. Even a novice can beat that dual-wield sword guy. Its not hard to point a spear at someone & utilized a spear length.
@datyeen
@datyeen 2 года назад
The problem is the guy using the dual swords is a much better martial artist. He knew exactly how to deal with a novice spearman.
@metalbasher820
@metalbasher820 2 года назад
@@datyeen yeah, dual wield guy is skillful but he wont enter spearman center easily if spearman has longer spear. Spear advantage is its reach, you need to utilize the reach advantage & not letting opponent get too near, just keep on attacking from distance & retreating when opponent try to get near, its not hard but only if he got longer spear
@gipsymelody1268
@gipsymelody1268 Год назад
dude dont eat that! :D yeah spear is pretty good but in this case dual wield with the off-hand defense sword is much better! still with a speak you can attack only straight... if the spear would be longer then the swords user would have bigger advantage... i mean only once he need parry the spear and instant win
@metalbasher820
@metalbasher820 Год назад
@@gipsymelody1268 I will retreat backward & keep on thrusting my spear but not too deep. Spear user will win unless dual wield have chain mail armour or using shield as off-hand. There is a reason why spear is dominant during feudal war
@gipsymelody1268
@gipsymelody1268 Год назад
@@metalbasher820 the reason it was cheap and easy to learn… 🧐 There is a reason why swords Still used in the wars… and why professional high educated soldiers used swords!
@wisono7857
@wisono7857 Год назад
0:19 how to getting killed in the battlefield : spearman edition
@bkstol818
@bkstol818 2 года назад
Peacekeeper dudes when "foward+A RT+RB"
@colehancock7567
@colehancock7567 5 месяцев назад
Why are the handles on his sword so long?
@nicholascotardo3795
@nicholascotardo3795 Год назад
someone can explain if what we see about krabi krabong is the real technique or is just something (relative new) for europeans? i explain: i study philipino eskrima, and about krabi i havent seen (never) some studies or tecniques similar to kali(entrance and so on) i always see the same kind of sequence and dance where seems like partners just make a coreography sequence without trying any entrance and so on..
@suckdijulimasustra524
@suckdijulimasustra524 10 месяцев назад
What is krabi krabong
@suckdijulimasustra524
@suckdijulimasustra524 10 месяцев назад
My father told me that krabong can defeat any kinds of weapon.(krabong made with wood look like batons)
@roberttate9821
@roberttate9821 2 года назад
Need a better spear man.your advantage is range.so when he advances you need to retreat.
@holyforce7065
@holyforce7065 2 года назад
From what i see, the guy with spear can actually puncture his opponent but he always hesitate because it can actually hurt his opponent
@miketan8190
@miketan8190 2 года назад
Yup. He seems to be hesitating. If the spear point is solid, it would be easy for his opponent to be impaled
@The_true_Joe_mama
@The_true_Joe_mama Год назад
no, he just isn't a good spearman
@kronos1794
@kronos1794 2 года назад
The skill gap was obvious and yet it wasn't a complete wash. Give the spear guy a month or 2 and that gap will be even smaller. Spears are just great weapons and when used properly are only really countered by other spears, single handed weapons with a shield, or dedicated range weapons.
@liluc3695
@liluc3695 3 года назад
I think dual swords is good against a spear because you can parry and attacl at the same time
@cypherusuh
@cypherusuh 2 года назад
Except an actual spearman could thrust someone on their stomach before they closed in. Even if it got parried, spearman, especially when using sparring weapon, could easily retract it back and pierce it again in very quick succession.
@dirkauditore8413
@dirkauditore8413 4 месяца назад
@@cypherusuh Spear fanboy
@jdjgg9398
@jdjgg9398 3 года назад
Me with my broom at home....
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight 3 года назад
Haha!
@munen-muso
@munen-muso 13 дней назад
Some people just make other people look better than they really are
@Sadoruro
@Sadoruro 2 года назад
WTF is the spear guy is doing with his spear ? XD "Me got pointy stick, so me going to hit with the other side." "But Bob... ! You're supposed to thrust it in your ennemy !" "Me going to smash it on his face".
@JBtheWeightlifter
@JBtheWeightlifter Год назад
Leo vs Shredder in the 1990s film
@gilgameshlfx7006
@gilgameshlfx7006 2 года назад
That's a pretty short spear.
@draugr905
@draugr905 2 года назад
LEGS!
@officekuroro
@officekuroro Месяц назад
How can the guy properly use his spear on you if you're not wearing any protective gear on your body? All he can safely do is wave it in the guy's face and wait for him to parry it.
@krystofcisar469
@krystofcisar469 16 дней назад
its safe spear )
@gargarbad6047
@gargarbad6047 2 года назад
the mat reminds me of PS1 graphic
@Ko-yi3kf
@Ko-yi3kf 2 года назад
Spear fight look don't kown how to use it
@humblebumble1328
@humblebumble1328 3 года назад
Does he even knew how to playba spear
@GabesaNinja
@GabesaNinja 2 года назад
Why not spin the spear when two swords starts coming close? Unless those bulky gloves keeps you from doing it. 😐🤔
@nightcorehades8092
@nightcorehades8092 3 года назад
This is why Chu Chulainn dies in every f*cking route
@castanedaesparzaemanuel7090
@castanedaesparzaemanuel7090 17 дней назад
That wasn't happen in Dr.Stone
@tonyzein
@tonyzein 5 лет назад
Nopeee, Spear guy is a noob, you gotta hide your range boy
@misterclownman1895
@misterclownman1895 4 года назад
i mean in sword vs spear, spear always get rekt
@risingSisyphus
@risingSisyphus 4 года назад
@@misterclownman1895 You probably couldn't be further from the truth.
@shalomcollege6482
@shalomcollege6482 3 года назад
@@misterclownman1895 ? I've never lost to a sword nor a great sword buddy want to test you theory?
@brandonkey181
@brandonkey181 3 года назад
@@misterclownman1895 you should refer to Lindybeige's Spear vs Sword video, in which spear dominates sword repetitively
@shalomcollege6482
@shalomcollege6482 3 года назад
@Yin Lin Every person who dueled me with duel weapons have failed miserably. Except this one indian dude he was something though that day I was using a halbert.
@renchi6989
@renchi6989 2 года назад
The thai sword guy is competition style, no circling the sword like traditional nor footwork. it's good to have this kind of training just to practice your skills and mental condition without focusing on wininng cause we have guns anyway. i my dojo we do light sparring with boken , bo and naginata sometime and it's quite challenging
@royalecrafts6252
@royalecrafts6252 Год назад
now without gloves and actual wooden heavy weapons
@EuNycolasRibeiro
@EuNycolasRibeiro 2 года назад
O da lança é um animal. O cara com lança precisa buscar sempre a distância do oponente e manter o oponente a distância. Falta habilidade no camarada da lança.
@wallacesousuke1433
@wallacesousuke1433 2 года назад
Ou ele provavelmente n quer machucar o outro rapaz
@theghosthero6173
@theghosthero6173 5 лет назад
What is HAMA
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight 5 лет назад
Historic Asian Martial Arts. I honestly didn't know what else to refer to it as, since it technically isn't HEMA haha
@theghosthero6173
@theghosthero6173 5 лет назад
@@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight the problem is that HAMA is the official name for historical AFRICAN martial art since like 2 or 3 years, so it's a bit confusing. I honestly don't know how to name east Asian martial art under one acronym.
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight 5 лет назад
Hmmm good call. I'll change the title. Maybe I'll Just call it "SE Asian Arts" or something like that
@TurulHEMA
@TurulHEMA 5 лет назад
@@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight HSEMA?
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight 5 лет назад
@@TurulHEMA THe problem is, even if a bunch of us white dudes start using it, the Thai and Vietnamese will just tell us to go fly a kite once they decide to name it for themselves. They are stubborn like that. I don't even bother competing in Asian sword tournaments for that reason. No chance they would let me win. Our training methods are already years ahead of what they are doing in country
@Hinata.Sakaguchi
@Hinata.Sakaguchi Год назад
If this was a real fight. He was already stabbed multiple times in long range.
@youtubeadsarecancer785
@youtubeadsarecancer785 2 года назад
double swords practitioner vs pleasant
@nghile1632
@nghile1632 Год назад
use spear like a sword???
@2DSaiMyoဝါသနာ
@2DSaiMyoဝါသနာ 10 месяцев назад
It is not easy to get close to a man with a spear in real fight, I guess
@jankramolis8658
@jankramolis8658 2 года назад
The guy with swords knows what he is doing, but the other guy with spear is sometimes weird and it's like he is holding it for the first time
@raideduela
@raideduela 3 года назад
If the best melee warriors were king of the world, thai would be the number one country
@mr.q337
@mr.q337 3 года назад
Er.... have you heard of the Roman or the Mongol empire? Their main unit are spear men behind shield wall, and cavalry with bow
@keps_ksk
@keps_ksk 18 дней назад
No disrespect to the sword user, but I find the fact the spear user being very underskilled and this video being titled "spear vs double sword" quiet misleading
@kingfighter2635
@kingfighter2635 3 года назад
0:13
@roosterfighter2480
@roosterfighter2480 2 года назад
Spear man looks like had no spear skill in right way.
@wraithwakasamyst4524
@wraithwakasamyst4524 3 года назад
He lucky Sissy ain't Gamaran
@hamachi1178
@hamachi1178 5 лет назад
am gona cry when i see my country martialart user do it like a kid play nooooooo TT
@nomanshigh3058
@nomanshigh3058 14 дней назад
Spear guy is amateur or being very nice. No way two butter knives does shit to someone with one day of spear training.
@diegomeringer3953
@diegomeringer3953 3 года назад
you have a spear not a sword
@kato_dsrdr
@kato_dsrdr Месяц назад
Really great stuff but I think the spear guy has a skill disadvantage.
@thepracticalsurveyor
@thepracticalsurveyor 6 месяцев назад
He is no spear fighter …….
@user-Doggo101
@user-Doggo101 3 года назад
The spearman dont knoe how to use a spear. Give that spear to a real shaolin monk
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight
@TheArmsmanHistoryTravelFight 3 года назад
I’ll do that when I find one
@renchi6989
@renchi6989 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wXAtf_F1yg4.html master nu
@tulosegaslimalama3487
@tulosegaslimalama3487 2 года назад
Whe u have a spaer is nonsense search the close combat just keep distance and hit
@barebius
@barebius Год назад
WTF is going on here? Does he even know what a spear is?
@jamesstarks7630
@jamesstarks7630 28 дней назад
Meh, spear guy didn’t really know what he was doing, he hardly used the spear at all.
@thegoon3088
@thegoon3088 3 года назад
The thing is, I've never sparred with a weapon in my entire life and I would do better than the spear user. I at least know for sure that I wouldn't turn my spear around and use it as a blunt wooden sword lmao
@troglodytezero1697
@troglodytezero1697 9 месяцев назад
It comes down to skill and technique, spear guy 0 skill, daul sword guy lv 1.
@YesthisisCharlie
@YesthisisCharlie 2 года назад
Nub spear. Watch and learn from spear guy at weaponism channel
@mpolodz7233
@mpolodz7233 2 года назад
Right! The spear guy at weaponist is a spear DEMON!
@turzakms8485
@turzakms8485 9 дней назад
He can't even use the spear properly.
@cypherusuh
@cypherusuh 2 года назад
I can't believe double sword could actually counter spear...
@metalbasher820
@metalbasher820 2 года назад
Nah. Even his spear is too short
@td3141
@td3141 2 года назад
That guy is not good with a spear.
@Daddy_Dani111
@Daddy_Dani111 Год назад
This is not a real VERSUS battle‼️ Both warrior's are untrained‼️Also in the first attack the spearman killed the swordsman, PLAY SLOWMO‼️💯
@handel1111
@handel1111 Месяц назад
that's why HEMA are only for larping nerds and dungeons and dragons fanbois
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
Noob spearman
@ibrahimshokry4084
@ibrahimshokry4084 5 месяцев назад
The spear man has ZERO SKILL, horrible, teach him how to use it first
@SayaBanjet
@SayaBanjet 2 года назад
The guy with the spear doesnt know how to use that weapon. The other guy know his stuff.
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