It's not the recoil that moves the selector, but the release of the trigger. They rotates on a common axis, and probably, in 35 years of overuse, the bit that took the selector in place loosened.
Most of the time when he ran out of ammo, the selector didn't move. I suspect that it's actually both. It might be that the selector can't move while the trigger is pulled and that last round while the trigger is being released is a big part of what's going on?
Sounds like something that can be fixed rather easily. At best it's just tightening a screw or nut and at worst it's bending a piece of metal back into position
@@benjaminshropshire2900On the mag dump at the end you can see that he lets the trigger go well after the gun settled. The amount of rotation there is purely due to the trigger being released.
It's neat that during the mag dump at the end of the video, the shells are coming out at nearly the same framerate as the camera, so they look like they're just kinda floating outside of the gun
I've always had a soft spot for the Spectre SMG. It's just so clever, compact and the 50 round quad-stack mag is super cool on its own. A shame about the dodgy selector lever, but I'm glad it didn't interfere with the mag dump. That was beautiful.
Wow, 2.6m subscribers, I was there when it was about 1000. Seeing the Spectre shot by Ian was more than worth a watch, proof that he is still making stuff that is just as organic and fun as it was back in those early days!
That's radical. I love how SMGs in the original Black Ops (including the Spectre) start in PDW form and the grip attachment unfolds the stock. Neat little detail they apparently never thought was worth the effort after that.
The selector seemed to want to reset after each trigger releases! So it was interesting to see the last full auto shot, that seemed to be fine untill the trigger was released and the selector moved abit forward! very interesting gun!
When I saw this notification on my phone, my brain went, "What time is it in the Arizona?" And "Our Lord and saviour clearly could not sleep?" LOL. Excellent content as always :-)
Considering the capacity and size I'm surprised these werent more popular with security and protection details. Seems it was only used to take French Frigates hostage!
Always liked the Spectre both from Goldeneye and from the book series Outlanders where its featured as the "Sin Eater" pistol for the main mooks of the bad guys. Very unique looking SMG with the top folding stock and cool to see it fired full auto like this.
I love learning about firearms that have a lesser-known background and unique features like the closed-bolt fire control system and metal top folding stock. Thanks for sharing this range session with us and giving us a glimpse into the world of the Spectre SMG.
I'm looking at that safety.... I don't think it's the recoil that's jostling it. That thing doesn't move a mill till Ian lets off the trigger, only then does it try to move back to safe.
I fired one back in the late 2000s, the one i fired run flawlessly, i have a feeling that the detent under the fire selector has worn to the point that the ball bearing is slipping out of the divot, as i remember the safety being really stiff on the one i tried (though it had been spray painted to a sand colour, apparently to make it more comfortable to put your face to it under the desert sun) so that would be my suspicion, though manners of it not being my gun had me hold my tongue and not suggest to the guy to sand down under the fire selector, as he didn't seem to have any issued with it feeling 'gummy' when you moved it. but i didnt want to be that guy who slags off someone's fancy toy. Edit, looking at the end of the vid, you can see that when the trigger is released the safety catch applies, im guessing its a worn part as speculated above, but while a sample size of one is statistically useless, might be why the guy who owned the one i shot didnt mind how stiff his selector was? just speculating here, cos this was a long time ago now
With this specific example. The Sites Spectre had not been a great commercial success, but had been selected by several security forces. It would had never been had it had such a problem.
prob the example as it was in a 'reference collection' aka their samples possibly. Also its prob been used a crapton last 35yrs...so a replacement OEM one would prob fix the problem.
@@neutronalchemist3241 I know the Swiss army bought a small number of them, and I think the Papal Guard had a few, but who else bought them? I've never been able to find specifics.
@@Balthorium Amazing 😳, you found one of the rarest machine guns in Reno at a gun show during the assault weapons ban for $700. It probably had 50rd mags too. I TOTALLY believe that .
I just watched Léon: The Professional a few days ago, and one of the drug dealers that Léon and Mathilda are trying to bust uses a Spectre to defend himself, before he gets killed by Léon with a hand grenade. Many people probably see the gun as a bit generic, but I always liked the design.
It's actually a misconception that the dude had one of these, what that scene was, was Leon remembering the sound of his own Spectre being charged, so when he heard another subgun being loaded, he knew what to expect.
I got the opportunity to shoot I believe the first one that was ever imported into the country. I was working at a gun shop when the representative came by to show us the gun. I did not have that problem with the selector switch, and the weapon did have an issue with some of the early ones with not wanting to fire when the magazine was fully loaded you had to short load the magazine by 3 to about five rounds. But that could have been the fact that the magazines we had were brand-spanking-new and hadn't quite achieved their first yield Point yet. I found it a fascinating weapon, but it did fire of it fast just like the one you're showing. It was quite a nice gun
The Spectre does not have a traditional safety switch; the defective switch is the semi/full selector. That lever switch behind it is a manual decocker which makes the gun function similar to the SIG P220 series of pistols. Also, the front sight post is adjustable for both elevation and windage. According to Armando Quazzo, SITES' export director at the time, they made a run of fixed-stock guns for the Pakistanis that was never paid for and hence not delivered. I've been looking for even a picture of that stock for decades.
I had a similar safety issue with my first Kel-Tec Sub 2000. It was a gen 1 in .40 SW, and every third or fourth shot it would knock the safety on from the recoil.
I am jealous once again. Australia has robbed me of all my fun tools, both short and long. The bunnies and roos are breeding in the millions, I was a force for good and a supplier of meat for the table, all because of one nutcase.
What an amazing design! the stock is great how it hinges on the rear site and comes down into the shoulder and the support that slides into it - not to mention how it all folds away too. Amazingly compact gun!!
a lot of people are saying its the trigger resetting the safety but i dont think so, when you fired it without the stock it didnt do it even a little. with the stock up to your shoulder it makes the bolt cycle faster because it doesnt push the gun so much, with no stock it bounces the gun a lot further making the forces on the bolt and saftey less
3:19 Best way to fire this particular gun, with the issue it has with the selector moving, might be to pull the trigger with your middle finger, and use your index finger to hold the selector in place.
I think it is not the recoil or the vibrations that make the safety go forwards, it is Ian's finger. The way he holds the gun and presses the trigger makes his finger make contact with the safety when he lets go of the trigger.
Another Raven Shield Six 3 gun in the bag. Working through all of them and think I have seen most, if not all, of them here, except the Groza. [Plus the SLR for real. And a few UK sniper, battlefield and competition rifles not in the game.]
Watching the slow motion video I think it’s the bolt hitting the barrel face that’s causing the vibration rather than it hitting the back of the receiver.
Compact, high capacity, decent accuracy.... I like it. I really do. Also, casket is just a perfect descriptor for a high capacity magazine. I know it comes down to the shape, but it has an excellent double meaning since it's supposed to help you fill more caskets more effectively.
Since i saw it on cod bo i loved it…and i think one is seen in “Leon the profesional”… just a crazy futuristic( for that time) gun…something like spas12…
7:20 The gun knew that it was on camera, and it would be remembered for this moment. I wonder if it's got a broken or worn out detent, or if all of them have this problem...
Oh wow, isn't this the "Klob" from Golden Eye's 007 on the Nintendo 64? ...I totally forgot about this nifty little pistol, thanks for the video Ian Duel-wielding them was hilarious
I always liked the pistol, I just wished they imported a semi only carbine like the sterling carbine seen in the original robocop, you remember the liquor store scene.
