I'm a proud owner of these pedals and i love everything about them, i personally think they are one of (if not the) best pedals on the market. Something a lot of you DON'T realize is that it really doesn't matter how much cash you drop on a pedal, in the end it comes down to how much you're willing to practice and improve your technique. So quit bitching about which is better, they all have their advantages, and go practice!!
I fell in love with the look of the Pearl Demon chain- that lasted for about a week- now I`m back on Speed Cobras again. Never gonna buy another expensive pedal again, sticking to Tama now
I agree with you over all- however, I must point out that Bozzio is an espeically melodic player (uses his kit as a sort of microcosm orchestra). Again, ultimately I agree, gotta give Portnoy credit, for sure
@EatingRottenFetuses trust me, one of the greatest features of this pedal is the chain. on a direct drive you can't get enough power to play untriggered unless you train this for months and years.
Maybe it's because I had the spring tension somewhat low but the Cobra Coil was bringing the footboard back faster than the beater, creating slack in the chain and causing a clunking/clicking feeling. And that's exactly why I thought the Coil is a bad idea. It would make way more sense on a direct drive pedal. I'm still going to experiment but I'll probably just remove the Coil. The Speed Cobra still feels really good without it anyway. I think the Cobra Coil is a pretty flawed idea.
@player836 If you like the Demon Drive feel I dunno if these will be for you. They're insanely powerful, I just didn't find them comfortable to play quick on, went with Demons in the end.
A friend of mine bought the dlb. speed cobra pedals but didn't like 'em....so he gave them to me to try for a week or so....Right away I noticed the quality of the workmanship...and as much as it pains me....it's probably a better made pedal than my DW 9000s. I went over them and made some adjustments but like him I just like the feel of my DW's better. Now I have to admit I'm not a metal drummer nor a speed guy...but I think if I had had them a bit more longer...I may have been talking trade!
@rockexpert I got my singles for $167 each. I bought them without having much knowledge on the pedal, just wanting something decent for the price. Before hand I had been using some crap pedals that came with a cheaper drum set that I bought because I've been sort of strapped for cash lately and after I hooked these babies up, I could immediately play way faster and more intricate stuff, like All That Remains. Well worth the money, and backed up by one of my favorite drummers Captain Bluebeard!
For the Price of just under 500 bucks one of the best longboard pedals. This Pedal amazed me very much. We use this pedal one a half year for heavy music, especialy for our band! First i was a little bit skeptical about the quality, but it passed the test perfectly. Nothing broken. Nothing wagly. What a pity that is not longer availably in this execution! For my opinion, demon drives or axis are much heavier and probably better processed than the speedcobra. Our Drummer`s startproblem was that he played much harder adjusted pedals (DW) before. The Speedcobra is very light running. Either you love it or you will hate it! But than you have to buy doubled priced Pedals who runs much harder and probably you will need much more feeling for harder playing and use much more power that is nonessential! But i think a good Drummer can play good on almost every pedal. For the future i will buy a high price pedal too! I wave between Demon Drive or DW 9000! All in all the Tama Speedcobra is a great pedal, who not need to hide in comparison to other ones.
Spoodermen Produktionz I've been searching for someone who can tell me about the 310 version cause I'm planning to pick it up... what else do you have to say about it?
@DreamTheater4life on a direct drive pedal the attack is...linear. with a chain it is different. as an example on the iron cobras, use a different glide (power glide etc) and you get different results because the chain accelerates faster at the end of the stroke. it is different, trust me.
@85Aheadstix ive had these pedals practiically since they came out. the spring on one of them just snapped one day :\ i put the other spring on it and it made the pedal feel so much better, but then again it just my preference
its not about the complexities..but how you play as a drummer...there are a lot factors to consider...imagine his prowess...yet so simple there is a magic in it...mature musicians would understand that...its more about music and less science...stop comparing..if you love music just play...pour your soulk...that's more than enough
@Astonmartin4444 i would say both a really good. but one is significantly cheaper. so thumbs up to SpeedCobra, although i've been a lifelong Pearl fan.
Never played any of this pro pedals, but in my opinion the Speed Cobra looks a lot cooler then the Axis. But that's just what i think, i haven't played them so...
@EatingRottenFetuses it would be different i would like to see how tama do it, they would deffenetly pull it off, but direct drive pedals just dont have the same feel as a chain, and tama's pedals are famous for there feel. you know what i mean? but yeah it would be sweet if they did it
@klick2destruct that's not true. on ANY pedal how much power you get out of it is based on how hard you step on it. thinking that a direct drive or a chain will change that is dumb. i've played direct drive pedals (demon drives, axis), and you can almost break a head with those if you wanted to
Haters gonna hate MP... He might have an attitude problem. But, so what? At least he's not as arrogant as some people in the industry. Point is, whether you love him or not, he's already a legend in Prog-rock. His accomplishments and accolades in and out of DT are something to be reckoned w/. Yeah right, guys like Thomas Lang, Donati, Mangini, Minemann(?), and Bozzio are extremely insane drummers. But, what MP has is something they all lack: Musicality and melodically on drums.
@85Aheadstix I see where your coming from, But i would trust portnoys opinion on these pedals, and go and get them, Because theve got to be good seeing as how much expierence he has had
I moved from regular power glide IC's to SC's. The SC's feel 25-30% lighter and quicker. There is no raised footboard design to interfere with sliding technique. It is simply a better pedal. And yes, it feels better to me than the overpriced and over hyped demon drive.
Read between the lines. It's not about making covers. It's about creating music. MP created about 40% of all DT songs since WD&DU. Any great drummer can play those song but can't execute new ones inside the studio. I'm not bashing Minnemann and Lang because they are also my heroes. But MP is in a different level.
@iviaverick52 i paid 650 for mine and i still dont think i would switch them for anything...i love the demon drives but i admit i still want to try these pedals out big time
+TheWitchOvAgnesi it helps with the pedal going up. so if you want to have your springs a little looser, you dont push down as hard but still get a good rebound with the cobra coil
@85Aheadstix the rev did no suck, sure he wasn't the best drummer and kinda overrated, but he was a great musician and you gotta respect that even though u didn't like his music
Like for example Polyrythms, paradiddling on hands and foots, Precision, Syncopation, Relative pitching, composition, and even singing. Then, I don´t know why other drummers like Marco Minnemann had to study and practice his songs for weeks, if this guy doesn´t have any skills, weird right?
DW's are good, but their main issue, and a big one, is how small they are. People like me, who have big feet really can't gt comfortable with DW's, especially when one ries to play really fast double bass. They just don't provide as much as you hope. I like DW, but not their pedals.
@Astonmartin4444 Id say Speed cobras, atleast you dont have to worry about that stupid overrated direct drive connection getting loose and wobbly, it starts squeaking aswell, and all those parts costs so much to repair.
@EatingRottenFetuses No way!, they get loose and squeak after a while and have no power, thats why Kollias and roddy use triggers. its all physics man,
@drummin4InTheShadows You serious??, it does like half the work for ya, try them for like 2 weeks and then go back to a regular pedal, and it'll feel like you have to lift you entire thigh every time!!, its quite exhausting!.
to study a song like dance of eternity is like to study 200 easy songs putted together, each part of that song is not complicated, but to memorize every changing time needs time.. thomas lang needs 2-3 days to learn that, but i don't think portnoy can learn a thomas lang song not even in 4-5 life times.. "stOrk - Changing Lanes" for example, has two completely different lines of drumming with feet and hands, so... if portnoy has skills why he can't play what mangini, donati, lang does?
Speed Cobra because Pearl charges too much just for their name. Tama makes awesome hardware for not ridiculous money and you're getting a real quality bit of kit. Pearl might make amazing drums, but their hardware is hardly too tier
@Astonmartin4444 Go with the demon drives they hold up at all my gigs for heavy music or light as they really help you get into the music!!!!!!!!!!You will not regret it.
Double singles, love my speed cobras. my only bitch, I don't have the legless speed cobra hihat that sits next to my left pedal. sad face... spent cash on pedals and sabians, Franken kit supreme, lmao. pedals are the best part