Trying a new mic set up with these last two videos and it has proven .... Difficult LOL. I apologize for the cracking in my voice! I hope you still enjoy this video :) Who plays Speed Cobras as well?!
@@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power OMG YES!!! you are in for a treat.. I found that just going from a pedal made in 2013 to a 2018 purchased model there was a world of difference!! and I bought the same pedal just the upgraded version!!! :O so hell ya, lemme know what pedal you decide to go with!
Don’t even worry man it’s not bad at all and honestly I want me some speed cobras hopefully this coming year I can get me some anyway enjoyed the video as always man I’ve been loving these vids you’ve been posting lately keep it up your killing it 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
The thing I like about Wyatt is that he comes across as a normal guy when talking about drumming and equipment. Wyatt also take input from others and doesn't pretend he knows everything. These are not always easy traits to find in someone as accomplished a player as Wyatt. I'm searching for my next pedal. I have a first gen Gibraltar direct drive (still in great condition), but never really liked it as it always felt a bit heavy & slow. I just purchased & returned the Yamaha FP9C. It was decent, but overpriced for what you get. I'm also disappointed with the short drive shafts in all the new pedals. I have an aftermarket Trick drive shaft which I bought specifically because I wanted something longer so I could put my slave pedal on the outside of my hi-hat pedal. The new pedals have all these fancy drive shafts that I can't take advantage of because they are so short. I might have to move my pedal in and modify my playing. It would be nice if manufacturers either made their drive shafts longer or at least allowed you to upgrade. I know I'm in the minority of players that even care about this. In any event, thanks for the videos Wyatt and rock on!
The best solution I know to avoid the pedal from moving is the velcro plate that we can screw underneath the Mapex Falcon. This, combined with the all rubber base, the spurs and the weight of the pedal, make it super stable on the floor.
Sergio Torrens I bought a 9000 Long board and a Speed Cobra. Tested them for a week and decided I preferred the action, feel and build of the 9000. I found I react better to a heavier feeling pedal action. I could make the action and feel of the 9000 lighter but it’s impossible to make the Speed Cobra heavier feeling. I might try a Dyna-Sync double.
@@Assimilator702 I agree. The Speed Cobra foot boards are super light making it hard to get good power behind the stroke. You actually have to work harder. I'm going to try to weigh down the footboard with a piece of metal underneath. If that doesn't work, I'm switching to 9000 double pedal.
my god you just know so much and have super informative videos, every single video ive seen. Big fan of these videos with an informative-style approach, as well as all three series of tutorials.
I brought the cheap 310 version to try the style of pedal and now I own the 910, although main double pedal is a customised PDP concept direct drive, I've upgraded many parts , linkage arm, beater's, springs, also fitted cobra coil springs beneath the foot board, its a brilliant pedal.
I keep seeing your videos pop up. This is the first one ive watched so far. This video is gold for me! I had no idea about the 3rd party triggera you could get. That's news to me. Thanks for the vid! Definitely subscribed!🎉
Brand new subscriber here, so forgive me if this has been covered previously. Have you considered Trick Pro 1 V longboard pedals? I own and have played the DW 5000's, 9000's and various Tama pedals to include Iron and Speed Cobras over my 40+ years of playing. However nothing compares to the Trick pedals IMO. Even the less expensive Dominators are incredible. In fact, I play a Trick Dominator double pedal when playing out. Both versions are insanely durable, crazy smooth, consistent and super easy to tweak. I've converted over to a direct drive player, but the transition was simple...and now Trick offers the chain versions if you prefer. Anyway, just my $.02. AWESOME videos!!!
Awesome video bro!!! I've played on all of them... I always go back to the iron cobra... tama just has some of the best built pedals on the market.. ..I recently bought this bad boy and fell in love with the way the were set up right out of the box... I have the high end pearl,dw,axis double pedals and in my opinion tama outperforms all of them. I gig 4 times a week . The only thing I've had to replace on my iron cobras have been the springs (twice) .... I highly recommend these speed cobras..... Definitely a bang for the buck!!!!
Velcro strips on the bottom is a life changer. I don’t have Velcro on the carpet either. The Velcro strips on the bottom of the pedal is enough and mixed with the spikes, they don’t budge
@@diamondkyle812 They're direct drive so I imagine they feel lighter and more responsive, but I hear unlike most direct drive pedals, they don't sacrifice power. Both are amazing so I guess it comes down to personal preference.
Thank you for the information. I am not sure what to get yet. There is SC, then Dyna Sync and there is Iron cobra Power glide. I guess the only way to know for sure is try them all out at a drum store and choose the right one.
I got little velcro strips from a dollar store that are sticky on one side and velcro on the other. It's like a roll of tape and you just cut however much you want and pull back the adhesive strip. It works really well and my pedals don't move. I just put it on the bottom of the heel plate.
I myself use Trick pro 1V bigfoot pedals. In use they are for around 12 years yet. Check those Pedals out. They are absolutely amazing. By far the best ones i've used. And i played a whole host of different brands. Trick stands on top hands dawn. The trigger system provided by Trick is 100% accurate, thought it's a laser based pedal trigger, with no possiblity of falsetriggering. Check out some videos by Kevin Paradis. He explains all features in great detail. Czarzie Kopyto are great pedals as well but many parts are more or less a direct copy of what Trick does for years. The most amazing feature, in my opinion, the Trick pedals are superior, over other pedals, is their compressionspring system. It improves your accuracy and dexterity big times. By the way it has to be mentioned, that when purchase a doublepedal you get two separate singlepedals. The only two thing you need to do are, unscrew the driveshaft between the two pedals and move the secondary beater to your left pedal. Thats it!
Hey Wyatt I messaged you a little while back. Slowly made some progress with my left leg (damaged through spine injury and six spine surgeries) so now finally went with a double pedal and I’m getting the Speed Cobra dbl pedal. My question is I’m thinking of upgrading the drive shaft with the trick or another company (still looking at reviews). I was wondering if you ever tried or considered trying an upgraded drive shaft?
Velcro really does work great, not used on the rug at all, the Velcro on the pedal just sticks to rug! Add gaf tape if needed. I like the look of the new regular iron codras too much to even try these. Great review man!
YOOOOOO the new Iron cobras look sweet ! I was literally JUST looking at them before I tabbed over to see this comment ! hahaha.. the beater on them too is the same design it looks like but is in all black... I NEED THAT SHIT! LOL!
@@WyattStav I need some cobra back in my life, I have beat the he'll out of the old ones, they can take some abuse! I always wonder about some 9000 (Dw) but cobras have won over my heart!
I have mapex falcon and just take the Base plate off and remove some screws. Take the rubber plate off the base and move everything over to turn it into two singles playing. Then right now
6:30 so from the website.... The baseplate has a new grip and a hinge called Oiles bearing hinge. It makes it to grip the floor harder and the footboard can't jiggle back and forth like many other pedals. Hopefully by the time you did this video, you found out why it isn't staying in place... Because I am pretty surprised it doesn't seem to grab the hoop and the left foot moves. I only need to adjust mine rarely. Probably because I moved it myself and it didn't get a carpet bite yet
Hi, I use one of these Speed Cobra for 2 years now (more or less), and I would say a couple of things: 1- the new hinge design is not really intended to give more power to the pedal, but to make the hinge more stable, preventing it from swivel from side to side after X time of use, like it happens on most pedals, and to give it more smoothness. Maybe these "smoothness" is why they say that it gives you more "sense of power", you know what I mean, the smoother the pedal is, the less effort you have to do... etc... Maybe this is not really appreciable on a brand new pedal, I guess we could see if it really works in some years of using it.... 2- as far as I know, the only difference between this new para-clamp II pro and the former one is that they added some rubber on it in order to protect your bass drum hoop and make the grip more stable. Maybe that's why if you don't tight it enough, these rubber could make it slightly slide. I don't really know, I never had that problem. Mine never slided like you say, it always keep in place. 3- regarding the issue with sliding slaves pedals, I've used velcro in other pedals and it always worked fine. Sometimes I've also attached the pedal to the hi hat stand, and perfect. But to be honest, with this Speed Cobra I never needed to do any of these things. I really love this pedal....
regarding the velcro: I do have the hook side on the underside of the pedal and it just grabs the carpet underneath, no need to affix the soft side on the carpet. Just left it out entirely...
I've had my low end iron cobras since i started to play double bass and now that im searching for my next pedals you've really helped me with my choice. Great video man!
Thanks so much! lemme know what pedal you decide to go with!! and whatever it is I really hope you enjoy the upgrade :D there is nothing really like getting a new piece of gear :O :O hahahaha
@@mopoucco2092 hey sorry i took long to respond. The speed cobras are amazing, bought them in February and so far I've had the best experience. Hit me up on instagram if you have any specific questions. "nikos.osfte"
I have a dyna sync it rocks left to right and the foot plate also walks out to the right away from me. Ive concluded since the clamp is on the right, it doesn't apply even force so during operation it vibrates loose and heel plate pushes to the right because wiggles loose on the left. I Can always feel this happening first at my beater,, the left will be harder to play then i look down and see the foot plate has walked out to the right so my left beater sits further away from the drum head, than my right beater.. And there is less materiel on the left side of the main pedal where it clamps to the drum. I believe this doesn't distribute the weight of the drum evenly into the ground. (or electric kick pad in my case) which causes that rocking motion from side to side.
8.54 i use broken sticks ' i chop the bottom grip section off and chuck away the broken tips I then gaffer tape two of these together on top of each other to make a little block the width of 2 x 5b vaters high Them gaffer it to the floor in front of my slave pedal And there you have it a pedal block to prevent sliding
Wyatt I have a question considering i have large foot what do you consider to be a better option the tama speed cobra or the Dw 9002? Because i don't know how large it's the footboard of the dw
Chain drive FTW! The big upside to using pedal mounted triggers is you no longer have to muffle your bass drum and can tune it to properly sound good acoustic. Personally I hated triggers until the pedal mounted ones came on market. I tried a few and decided on FootBlaster because i'm lazy and they work well and are compatible with most of the modules i have. My advice is read up on compatibility with modules before you decide. I've had no mechanical issues with any of the ones i've tried, they all did the job well.
I just got this pedal and put it on my Roland TD-25k. Unfortunately I can't get the pedal to unmount from the bass drum trigger... Fortunately I like it 😂... Any help about how to take it off would be really appreciated
Best pedals I’ve ever played. I’m definitly a chain guy and these are just perfect. They are so fast and smooth yet remain powerful and the throw of Tama pedals are like nothing else. Used to have dw 9002s and these destroy those for me personally and a lot cheaper.
Better heel hinge will likely not develop play in joint saving wasted energy down the road when there would be heel hinge play. Also trigger hammers on ekits I know are independently adjusted from the beater. So you adjust the trigger hammer to the plate with the beater touching the skin. Calibrating it, per se.
Hello bro, I really like your videos🔥 I need your help as long as you're a pro drummer If you were me which one would you choose? Pearl Double Pedals P-2052C Eliminator or Tama HP910LWN Speedbobra which is the same pedal you're taking about? I'm so confused honestly I have the Efnote 5 it's e-drums btw
Wyatt, I just discovered your channel recently while trying to learn Waking the Demon. I injured my peroneal nerve in my left foot while racing mx as a kid. I have 0 control of my left foots big toe up or down and after 22 years i have about 65% lift ability on left foot compared to right. Are there any pedals that would help with my foot issue? I want to play double bass efficiently!
Yeah I put the coarse side of the velcro on the bottom of my pedals and sticks to my carpet well... another thing I've done playing live, is to move the crash cymbals stand up against the left/secondary pedal as like a wedge and that seems to help out a lot. Question; do you think the 910's are worth double the money over the 310's? Looking to get a new pair and know you beat the hell out of them ( in a good way ) so I know they will last!
My bad i should have been more specific. In order to keep you pedal from moving you must minimize the amount of vibration. If you watch your bass drum when you kick it the drum will lurch up just slightly due to the force you apply to it by "kicking" it lol. But seriously, that little vibration done 10000 times in one death metal song, will cause in to walk away from you. So limit the movement of the bass drum by clamping it to a rack some how. You might need to drill some holes in your shell on the underside of the bass drum that accepts a tom mount, cymbal mount, a dog bone clamp, any sort of clamp will do. Then attack that to a drum rack. If you dont use a drum rack drill it into the floor with a mount to bass drum, clamp to floor mount. If you have nice floors, just put a peice of wood under your drum rug that is the size of your drum rug and drill into that.
The bearing should never come loose lol. I recently tried out the most recent rolling glides and wow do they suck. The shaft on the main pedal had some play.. Definitely shouldn't have plastic nuts for the springs. And the bass drum hoop clamp really does suck. Total swing and a miss for $550. Also, the speed cobras literally are a flagship pedal. It's at the top for their pedals. Most of the direct drives use mostly machined parts. That's why they're usually more expensive. And even the direct drives are getting cheaper. A $600 flagship pedal from a company that's known for making pedals definitely shouldn't have multiple issues like this.
Today I bought a “Blackout” Speed Cobra, mint condition, for 200$. It was a sort of impulse buy since it was literally never used and I could get it for 200 instead of 530$ new. However, I already own a Power Glide iron cobra, and as far as I can tell these two pedals are nearly the exact same with a different foot board (the Speed Cobra is slightly longer). I’m going to test the Speed cobra out over the next week or so, but I’m wondering if any of you folks have an opinion on which is better? I play fast tech metal so it will be used for speed and balance. But I never really had any issues with the power glide. It was 100% on the price, saving 340$ for a brand new pedal was hard to beat. The black out looks nifty, matched my drums better for sure, and I like longer footboard, but im not sure which one is actually better, buying them both new only has a cost of 30$ more for three speed cobra over the power glide.
Would you recommend this pedal for larger feet? I wear US size 13, I think you said you wear 10 or 11 in one of your other videos. Is there a different pedal you would recommend?
your foot size doesnt matter. never buy a pedal because you think a bigger pedal works for bigger feet. it depends on a lot of different factors and for some, the opposite is the truth. try them out.
Thanks for the breakdown. I’ve been looking into buying these for awhile. (More on that below.) Just want to point out that Trick double pedals can also be reconfigured. I had a set of Dominators I used as singles for my 2 kicks, but reconfigured into a double pedal for a single practice pad when I was away from my kit. The Pro1-V’s also convert the same way, with the same parts. Furthermore, DW pedals (5000 and up) have the swiveling spring, and have had that feature for years. Sold the Tricks and went back to my 5000 Accelerators (better feel for me). I’ve tried the Speed Cobras before, and really like the feel of a longboard with a heel plate. Gives me the point of reference I need when playing fast that I didn’t have with my Dominators. A friend of mine has been using Speed Cobras for years, just said the springs were a bit brittle (older version, so this may have been fixed) and that his remedy was to use regular Iron Cobra springs. Even with that, I still can’t wait to get my hands on a pair of them.
I just put 1 piece of velcro on the bottom of my slave pedal and that does the job,don't need it on the maine pedal cause the bass drum keeps it in place.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 different strokes for different folks I guess. We're so lucky to live in a world of really great options. Imagine being in the 60s/70s and having to use the shit they had to put up with back then.
@Bog Fish Lol DW pedals are heavy luggy trash with no way to adjust shit. The Dyna sync is fully adjustable. From the cam feel to the foot plate itself. I hate the inside mounted springs too. It makes zero sense for them to be there and chains are just so 2000. The Tama pedal designs are sleek and flawless and fit for anything from light jazz to death metal DW pedals are slow, clunky, heavy and out of date. Tama all way. DW are overly priced trash.
how come brother? you did not like the bigfoots? i am thinking about purchasing them soon and i'd like to have as much feedback as i can ,negative or positive. cheers from Greece.
@@NickTheDrumscum You got to try it. I moved on for a smoother/control pedal. I went to the speed cobra's. My problem with the Trick was, i couldn't feel it properly, less to no rebound, i was working way to much to be consistent/ in time. Axis
Hey man I had messaged you a while ago. I had many spinal surgeries and couldn’t do double bass. Well I am gonna try and attempt it. I don’t play insane stuff like you!! I’m more in a Sabbath styled band just want the double for some tasteful parts. So I may get this one. BUT that sliding issue would drive me insane. Is there a huge difference between this and the 310. Also we are recording so is this quiet enough? Right now I have a dw 9000 single which is awesome. If you recommend a mid priced chain driven double pedal other than this one or is this one good
Does the Tama 310 also have that pin motion at the springs just like what you pointed out ion the 910s?.. This is a nice channel quite detail review. Sub+1
For the velcro issue, any of those upholstery places you can get those rivots (used on jeans and or leather normally) and sort of plier thats used to attach the rivots.almost like stapling the valco to the drumcarpet and sticking the other side to the pedal if that makes sense
I’m super impressed with your vlog, I’m 62 been playing casually for many years I have pretty good foot speed but learned a different technique from you. Will be watching for more tips. Thanks keep up the great vlogs
@@WyattStav honestly really well. I just cleaned them and they still look brand new with a few scuffs but I love them! Axis really knows how to make a quality pedal!
I do velcro on the bottom of my pedals(Trick prov1 bigfoot), works like fuckin' gangbusters(the coarser the hooks, the better), even without the corresponding other half of the velcro on the carpet, which you won't have when you play a venue backline. It's important to regularly clean out the velcro as it will accumulate debris and carpet fibers over time, rendering the velcro useless. This method however, will not work on thick, shag carpeting and I found that out the hard way playing a gig at The Barbary in Philly, the left pedal absolutely would not stay put and might as well have been in the crowd after most songs, and even with a cinderblock in front of the kick, spikes down on the kick, the pedal would twist completely off the drum at times. We still killed it, but man that that situation was no bueno.
Also, there exists a product that connects your throne directly to your pedals called Phat Foot, essentially making the 3 individual units one solid unit. I've never tried these, so I can't really comment on their effectiveness or drawbacks. Might be worth a look, though.
Idk about him. But the reason ive always for for thinking about switching to two single kicks was because i thought maybe the arm to the double bass pedal takes away from some precision. I havent tried it yet though because i dont want to have to carry 2 bass drums haha
Wyatt, I love your channel. I actually just bought a Speed Cobra 910 and I think I'm going to love it, its just going to take some getting use too. However, the beaters that came with it has metal on opposite side of the beater head. I like playing bare foot and that metal really hurts the top of my foot. I like bouncing the beater off the top of my foot. Have you ever had this problem!? I think I need to find a beater with a softer back, so that its easier on my foot, rather then learning to not hit the top of my foot with the beater. I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks, Bob
Clamp your bass drum to a drum rack in some fashion. Or if you know exactly where you put your bass drum and don't want it to move, rig up some sort of sturdy clamp to your bass drum, then drill it into the floor.
Super interested to know your favorite fills and and some crazy freestyle drumming that you enjoy and some drum rhythms that you like to play most..? It’s been killing my curiosity to know some of your favorites
I know you bought the speed cobra already, but the DW9000 first gen, has the slave pedal ready to become its own kick pedal Incase you have two kick drums, plus it comes in a hard case, and the second gen, they took away this ability, and came in a moderate soft case. I think they should have left the 1st gen as is.
Thanks Wyatt. Yeah man, I think velcro should fit the bill. I have velcro on my Axis and DW's, and never even thought about pedal creepage. Axis has the industrial velcro on theirs, you know with the really stiff teeth and so once it's planted on the carpet, it's solid as a tank. That works great, but can be a bit much if I need to adjust the placement. Anyway I'm sure regular velcro would work fine too, you just may need to clean the teeth more regularly.
woah true! thanks for this reply!!! Right now I only own one pedal so when I go back and forth to and from my electric kit I have to swap the pedal over as well... would this be a pain in the ass with velcro you think?
Umm, it might be a little inconvenient but once your pedal placement is dialed in, just lay down some gaff to mark where they go, and you can drop them in place every time. As for the real question of moving them back and forth all the time, nah it wouldn't really add that much more work, though it may chew up the carpet a little bit, so there's that. If it ends up being a problem, just take the velcro off and you're back where you started. Pedal stability brings a lot of peace of mind though, so it's def worth a try.
Hey wyatt,first off,you are a beast.i just started watching your vids so i havnt been on board long but ive learned alot from you especally about double bass,now about my slave pedal,umm well i have the gibraltar 6711 db and i have my drums in a shed with old barn boards for the floor,kinda un even so i drilled holes in my base plate and drilled it into the floor along w my hat stand.unfortunately i ruined the connection from my towers to the plate!gibraltar was nice wnough to send me a new ine since i was way over charged for that one so its all good,i had tama speed cobra 201 version i think,had it a week before i figured out the berrings were shot,thats when i traded it in for this guy.cant say its great yet,my fav pedal is pearl demonator,i learned heel to on one of those like six yrs ago n it took me 3 months to get it down,ive been practicing in my shed for 10 months n i still have trouble not galliping,but one of tour last vids have helped me alot where u break it down and gave us some exercises to do so im getting it,again u a beast man!thank you
Different beaters, no cobra coil, the machining isn't as precise, and overall slightly lower quality parts, ie bearings. That is all I could tell in a side by side at the music store.
I've had the sliding problem when I first got this! Not too sure if yours is sliding due to the same reason, but at first I thought that even at the tightest I can turn clamp it to the base drum hoop, it still wasn't tight enough, and slipped off the bass drum during a 40 minute gig. That was shitty. Later I realised, I can actually adjust the round thing by tightening or loosening it, and that worked! I wished I could show you through pictures but I hope you got what I mean!
Ya man I know EXACTLY what you are referring too!! mine is as tight as it can get and I still am having a LITTLE... sway. It's not driving me nuts anymore tho haha so I don't really mind too much at this point.. It just really sucks to be half way through filming a cover and look down and notice my heal plate sliding out to the right.. Thanks for this comment ! :)
Wyatt Stav No problem at all! Just thought of giving back a little since I've learnt quite a lot from your content and love your videos! Hopefully the pedal stops doing that soon haha, I'd probably just velcro the pedal in that case! I bought a roll of velcro tape by the brand '3M', it comes in 2 separate rolls, 1 for the "hook" and one for the "loop". The tape side of the velcro strips are really strong, so it won't come off!
I use velcro on my pedals and super glue the velcro to the bottom of the pedal. That's all I use since I use an electric kit and need to velcro my kick drum
i use falcon pedals and for years i used camco pedal and i had trouble deciding what to upgrade to i didn't like the power glide (expensive mistake) i had to do a lot of reading before i felt confident in the falcon upgrade .
You know the one thing I like about the speed cobra is how long the board is. But the weight is too light for me which is why I went dw9000. I should of gotten the long board ones instead though The direct drive speed cobras are no joke though
EricParker Drums I went with the 9000 long boards myself after comparing it to the Speed Cobra. I just love the heavy feel of the 9000 pedals. I did go with the Speed Cobra Hihat stand. That thing is sweet and a nice chunk of change cheaper than the 9000 hihat stand.
I'm rocking 3 toms now on the Pearl icon rack 8x8 10x9 12x10 maple MCT. I play Tama iron cobra power glide900 now. I been watching your pedal videos! I'd like to save up and get trick direct drive Bigfoot.
I've been considering the Axis longboards with triggering. I wear size 13 so it's difficult to do heel to technique with my current Mapex direct drive pedals. They are great mostly. Just not if you want to do heel toe and have big feet. I have been doing a modified heel toe technique with them that has worked so far. I push my foot forward for a secondary kick. The pedals have velcro on the bottom. they don't seem to move. Though I've had to replace the beaters. The pad I use on the head wore the felt beaters down. Has anyone used both the speed cobras and the axis longboards? I'm already on my third set of double pedals.Hope my next is the last.
2 things: 1, sounds like youre doing the slide technique. 2: pro tip - put an old t-shirt around the bass drum practice pad, zip-tie it at the bottom and make sure it is taught on the surface of the pad. That will save the felt beaters and you still get good rebound.
I've had my pedal for about 6 months , one issue or my right foot plate has alot of side to side play which I hate, and I cant tight the springs as tight as I like the springs maxed out of these pedals aren't that tight and lastly the part where the shaft connects the metal is stripped a hit and makes it hard to attach the shaft
fair points true true.. If you want a tighter feel I would recommend you pick up some High Tension springs.. they will give you a much more aggressive feel :)
Sup dude ! How are you doing ? Hi from Brazil, btw ! Now a days I have a Mapex pedal that have the Velcro on the bottom of it, and actually it was a improvement, but not as I thought it was. The best shot is to attach the other side of the Velcro on the math or whatever your drum kit is on top. I know that's a old reply, but hope you fixed this problem, if so, tell me ! Congrats for all the awesome covers and tips and exercises and and and... See yah
