it is such an amazing sport and their producers/directors do it no justice at all. you could get a fiber optic cam weighing lass than a .14 ounces and strap it on the driver's help or anywhere. static cameras. actual cameras around starting line/finishing line. This is why baseball is amazing, you can tell what gum they are chewin.
too many people aren't in it for the cars but for the overpaid personalities driving them. That's why we'll never have what we want, starting with V10 engines.
They need more shots like these during the actual race. The quality of the cameras and camera people do such a disservice to the speed perception of F1.
agis43 Yeah in motocross there are a decent number of static camera angles and when it switches to those angles it really gives you a sense of just how fast those guys are going how much the pace is being pushed
@@agis43 Yes but the point of showing these races on tv is not to showcase how fast the cars are but to highlight the competition between drivers. It is a race after all and im sure the sponsors and fans are more interested in seeing how their team is faring in real time. I do agree however that they should feature more static camera video like this to keep the show even more interesting.
+AreGamingHD Yeah. Top Gear taught me that these F1 cars NEED to go at this speed in order for the wheels to grip properly. At lower speeds they lose traction much easier. Imagine that...
+steven w Yup, speed = downforce. But that isn't the main reason they need to go fast, they need to be hard on the acceleration and speed to keep temperature in the wheels and brakes, which are designed to operate at a certain heat level.
+Michael T it's not just formula 1 that this occurs in. a lot GT cars and all LMPs use carbon brakes as well. it's just an "operating temperature" like anything else mechanical lol. your cars engine runs much better at its peak temp than on cold start up. running carbon brakes is the same concept.
***** well.. any engine for that matter. well at least combustion engines anyway. but in the case of carbon brakes. carbon's optimum operating temperature is much higher than steel brake discs on our road cars. so you need more speed. which generates friction. (because the pads are touching the discs) friction as we know generates heat. heat in turn gives the brake it's temp needed to be effective.
@@neovenom9833 Ah, yes, that modern GT series where what looks like a 2010 Ford Focus hatch races against a 70s Porsche 911, what looks like a 914, what looks like a prototype and some Morgans or Caterhams. There's no way the left side is a GT series.
Themayseffect A whore can take much bigger cocks in their mouths than other general good fucks because of one thing....Practice. Now use the same theory.
Theres a lot of track days at spa and this is definitely one GT cars go through eau Rouge a LOT faster than this. But they are still nothing in comparison with F1
Several years ago i was fooled by the video, now I know a lot more about cars, and the title is complete BS, it's obviously a track day, they aren't pushing the cars to the limit, they are enjoying the time there, plus the variety of cars is another sign.
I raced sports cars in the 1960s and attended Formula 1 races as well and I have got to say that I simply can not believe the incredible skill needed to drive these Formula 1 machines!
It really puts it in perspective how fast F1 cars are. To think one of those GT cars would destroy even the fastest road cars, but they get pwned by an F1 beast!
+James Smith theres more to it than that, GT cars can still go beyond the speeds of F1 cars but the centre of gravity and weight distribution means that F1 cars can take corners much more faster than GT cars. Acceleration on an F1 car is clearly much better than GT cars but for sheer speed, most GT cars can surpass F1 cars
I think I've watched enough F1 to lose perspective on how fast they are actually going. I just kind of get used to the speed after a while. Can't wait to see the Belgian gp
I would call it more perspective shift. Try going 100 mph on a fast motorcycle for about 10 miles, then slow down to 55 mph. It literally seems like you can step off the bike and run alongside although of course you could not.
Triple P Productionz That's because of slicks, DRS, wider bodies and other accoutrements developed only allowed relatively recently by the rules. Put all those on a 2004 car, and it'll spank the current records.
I'm pretty sure that's literally what this is, I'm not buying that the video on the left is of GT cars at all. They look like road cars and it looks like a track day.
They generate some INSANE amount of downforce. Something like half a ton on top of the car's dry weight... Those things have more air pushing them down with more force than the wing of a Boeing 747 pushes up! *EDIT* I may have grossly underestimated the amount of downforce. The only proper figures I found were for the 2001 series and they were generating in the region of 1,400 - 1,700Kg of downforce. At the top end, that's nearly 2 tons..... O.O
77chonyc Yeah, Nikos is right, they can travel upside down but they don't need anywhere near top speed. They just need enough speed to generate about 700KGs of downforce (which is the car's own weight with a bit on top for some grip) And as halabi97 put, they were generating almost 3,000KGs at top speed last year
yup, tom hooked me.. season 2 haas crash....bananas, yeah he's fine, not like he works at an oil change place in korea or slid into a sewer.. 2395 a lease and a key julia, try it out Chomoes
One of my favorite vids, for many people, an F1 car is just another fast car since they always see F1 cars racing other F1 cars... Comparatives like these put things in perspective for those kind of people.
confuzler i hate to say it, and altho your argument is completely valid, 2 years ago or not. I'd like to adress that the F1 part has been editing so that distances would seem longer than they actually are. And I'm sure you are aware a longer distance in the same time equals a faster velocity. You can tell by the tree's appearing way further in the second picture. Now you might argue that the second camera was placed closer to the turn, we can safely say this isn't true because of the second piece of road to the right of the turn disappearing behind the fence at the same part on both videos. Meaning it was shot from the same perspective :)
Are you serious? The F1 footage was just taken from further back up the straight. The camera in both shots has been set so that the right hand side shows the end of the corner. That is why the bottom, left, and top sides of the shot are closer in on the left.
What I found interesting was the different line taken by the F1 drivers, they are far further left entering Eau Rouge, which I suppose helps to straight line the left/right kinks.
i fair to say f1 has its faults.. and some seasons have quite been boring. BUT at the end of the day its still Formula 1 and theres nothing faster around a track and nothing more amazing in terms of engineering.
Harold-Sweat-Head I know F1 cars maneuver better, I just always thought Indy car's were faster since on long straights Indy cars get up to 250+ where F1 cars get up to just over 200. Might just be how they are geared out.
I thunk both cars are designed for the circuits they race on. The straights in F1 tend to be short so they're braking for a bend before a higher speed can be reached, so there no point in designing them to do 250mph.
Harold-Sweat-Head Yeah, I think if they wanted they could set them up to reach well over 250, but in the end I think the comment "theres nothing faster around a track and nothing more amazing in terms of engineering." is still technically false.
I saw a video of Aryton Senna driving those older f1 cars. Absolutely insane how he's changing gears with one hand and trying to steer the car around a bend. Those guys were just built different. Completely fearless
I watched the 2019 pole laps from the Monaco circuit by F1 and F2 cars. And it makes you realise why there aren't a lot of F1 drivers. The F1 pole lap time was 10 seconds faster than the F2 time. Around Monaco, that is frighteningly fast.
It's not a comparison because the left side is basically a track day where normal people take their 100hp Opel Astra to the track to test which gear you're not going to go down to 50km/h up that hill.
As a kid I always imagined F1 cars to be 6 to 7ft long, since they were so sharp in corners, my brain just couldn't imagine them being as big as they are. This really gives you a whole new appreciation, even for the lower end teams
The footage on the left is not a GT race of any type - it's simply a track day. Watch the footage, there's a mixture of Nissan GTR, Radicals, Caterhams, Porsche 911s, even a Ford Focus!
Yep, what i was Thinking. Gt3 cars for example are much faster through here than what you see on the left. Also the lens on the left is wider, which exaggerates the speed in this comparison further than it would be with equal focal lengths.
MARIETTE David no. GT is a specific of race car limitations of balance of performance rules. GT does mean that but I’m the sense of how they used it meaning in the video title they were talking about class of cars: F1-open wheel, single seater, high downforce, high output vehicles vs GT: road car chassis, performance brakes, high output engine, big tires, big wings, closed cockpit and wheels. The cars presented as GT would be classified as stock, super stock, or modified stock.
No joke. According to the RU-vid video, in the 2012 Belgium Grand Prix they were doing 300+ even exiting the top of Raidillon. Absolutely amazing what downforce can do.
Great video! Incredible how much faster 'our' cars go through Eau Rouge. During a race weekend at the track you get that we make a lot more noise than other racing series, but this is an amazing visual comparison. If your interested in the technical aspects of F1, don't miss our video of a cutaway F1 race car!
In Formula 1, in the last Sunday of August, there’s a race in Circuit de Spa Francorchamps. (The word Spa came from this city) The height between the 2nd and 3rd corner, called Eau Rouge and Raidillon, is 30 meters. These cars go up that hill at 190mph and takes them less than 3 seconds to climb it.
But have you noticed after watching many times that the cars on the left aren't racing? There's a Ford focus, old porshes among the gt cars. It's just a track day.
I'm a huge F1 fan following in my fathers foot steps; I have only been to F1 races in Montreal as I live in Canada. I have used this video for the last 10 plus years when anyone puts F1 down. This vid has changed so so many of my friends & business partners opinions of F1. Its awesome when you don't have to say a single word to any skeptic's. Yep priceless 🤠
totally respect to all the F1 racer......from the first to the last of them.......just imagine how brave they are driving that fast.....without them the sport will not exist
This phenomenal demo also makes it a clear triumph for scientists, aerodynamicists and race car design engineers to create a machine that behaves like a laser guided missile when handled with precision by a talented pilot. We must never forget the technological innovation, mastery and evolution that goes on with these machines to interpret whatever ruling FIA comes up with, year after year.
I would hardly call this well done, the left isn't even a race, it's a bloody track day (the line of up cars varies wildly in ages with cars like an early 00's Ford focus racing at the oldest a 2009 Nissan GTR, also saw a Caterham which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed in any GT series, even mixed grid series and its clear some of the cars aren't being pushed to their limits, like the radical that started their turn in to the corner late and was going slow compared to what that car should be capable of)
F1 racing is basically taking a Go-kart design and feeding a ton of steroids. They drive actually very similar to a high end Go-kart granted with 10X the horsepower and top speed.
IlIIIllIlIllIlIlllII the way they grab the road is near identical to a go kart minus the sliding on turns due to a gokart weighting alot less so my statement was and still is correct. Whether it drives better isnt relevant as it acts similar to a gokart at high speed minus the skidding gokarts do at high speeds on turns
Its quite similar the f1 car basically if you strip it down as in take off the outer body its frame looks quite similar to a gokart granted its larger to support the f1 engine. F1 handles far better due to weight and far better shocks hence their abilities at 200 mph compared to a gokart smaller suspenion limiting to 80-100 mph
Bikes are a little bit faster in acceleration, probably after certain speed but need to drop a lot of speed in corners. I am guessing they will break hard during this segment.
Sicheng Hao Not really: F1 cars and moto GP hace similar mid-turn speeds. Where bikes loose lots of time (about 1+ sec. Per turn!) is during braking. It takes almist twice the diatance for a GP bike to slow down the same amount of a F1 car, thus even if the speed inside the corner is similar the bikes have start braking much earlier.
This is great but one on the left is clearly a track day. A Caterham and Focus ST in GT? lol. A side by side of two real races would be cool. GT1 and F1.
eşeğinz2 exactly. And to say stock even on the caterhams and Porsche’s is also inaccurate, stripped down race versions, weight a lot less, max powered, race suspension and slicks
As a kid I remember seeing a static camera angle in the legendary movie Le Mans with Steve McQueen, in the early ‘70s. That was the first time I actually realised the scary warp speed race cars were actually doing. This was the golden era of sports car racing when prototypes came of age and were faster than F1.
I can’t wait to see the real comparison between gt cars, The ones on the left (except for a few radicals and a saucer being held up by traffic) are regular road cars
I've played this circuit alot in Assetto Corsa VR, I always felt cool in that specific turn, going in the 5th gear pedal to the metal. But this, this is way cooler, they are so fucking fast
You should have the same lens when doing this kind of comparison. It’s obvious that the F1 angle is more wide angle which makes it look even more fast than it already is. Which of course accentuates the fact but is a bit deceptive.
