Wes, I enjoy your videos very much! They are very informative. I am a country girl at heart and find great pleasure in learning the different aspects of farm life. It seems to me that though it's one of the hardest jobs, it's rewards can be great. It seems to be a dying craft here in Arkansas and it saddens me. I hope one day to have a farm of my own and experience it all for myself!
I don't think most people realize how many hours farmers work. One of the reasons I left agriculture to chase a dream is 100 hours a week for low or no pay. Now that I am a professional photographer and photoshop has ruined professional photography I find myself working 100 hours a week for low or no pay. I am starting to wonder if I should go back to farming. Great video keep up the good work.
I was curious as to the outcome of the CNH Speedrower since we all knew the dealer would be out on TU. Glad they hauled it away and hope for your sake, CNH makes things right in your eyes. Don't be surprised however, if they don't. I know all too well about Corporate bottom lines and bean counters. And I totally agree with the logic of two wind rowers. When you have as much to mow as you do, it makes complete sense to have 2 machines going at once. You make hay when the sun shines and around these parts that could be a very limited time frame.
Your a lucky guy Wes you have a great operation you should be very proud of and you have great kids that your lucky enough to work with anybody who watches you knows that farming and your family are your life keep up the good work
I work for a CAT and AGCO dealership and the engines that AGCO uses have been pretty good and the parts availability is alright almost like Deere. The only thing I worn you with is wiring, AGCO does need to step it up with the electical systems cause we stay pretty busy replacing and doing updates on wiring harnesses.
Wes , i wish you the best of luck with your windrower , ! i enjoy your videos and as a fellow farmer i know just what your going through , i have had some of the same types of dealing with equipment companys .
If you still have an appreciable amount of hay to cut this season you should go to the JD dealer and ask them to bring a used 235 out and let you finish up with it. If it works out to be a good machine then talk with them about that machine or another when you have the hay up.
The krone big m is a great machine from what ive seen and heard but you have a valid point on our farm we have 2 windrowers both case and both the same model as you have
Bandy, I think you said your name is, you put out a very good video & I am subscribing. I feel for a person that is just trying to make it in this World & without a hassle from a Company that sold you a "Piece Of Goods" which only helped the Salesperson for his commission. These Companies really need to stand behind the products that they are promoting. I have been there & will still go there, making them tow the line to the enth degree if need be, & Lawyers, might be a good idea. Call it "Product did not perform as advertised". I am with you Bud! Kurt
I would think if JD was on the ball they would have a demo unit in your field like today. In the sales world " you snooze you loose". Hope you get your mower situation resolved once and for all. Hang in there, I know where you are coming from.
Just hopping on to say I am happy to hear that you'll have some closure (of some sort) on this POS machine you got stuck with. My only advice would be to make sure that any future video you should make mentioning this event include the words 'New Holland Speedrower 240' in them so that other farmers might search and find them so they to can understand the problems with this poorly designed piece of 'equipment'. Experience is something that needs to be shared and you have an excellent conduit of experience to help others now and in to the future.
Good move Wes going to 2 mowers ,the big M great machine but you need big paddocks to get the best out of it ,100 acres or more , which you don't seen to have where you are.Hope you do get a JD and something else to run together and see what performs the best.
I think I understand why farmers don't have extra money or a life now. Wes - I'm a few years older than you, 55, and have been a office puke for most of it. Started on working on aircraft there in NJ at McGuire and ended up being a software developer for over 30 years. I'd rather be out there on the farm where you are but I'd never be able to afford the costs! I admire you and really enjoy your vids, please keep them coming. Oh and why is divorce so expensive? Because it is WORTH it!
Hey Wes have you ever considered a Ford NewHolland Bi directional tractor with a 16 foot header in front ,and a 14 foot center swing behind? Then if the tractor goes down you can still use the center swing behind any other farm tractor and keep mowing grass.
Onelonelyfarmer, you need to look into a Macdon machine. Built in Canada. Up here, Macdon machines are everywhere. For road travel the new swathers turn the drivers seat 180 degrees (Much like a backhoe) and you drive it down the road backwards. Ive never driven one myself, but its supposed to be the answer.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the new John Deere models built by MacDon and rebranded, even the spin-around operator seat (MD calls it DualDirection) was listed on the last one I saw online. I think the 4995 was the last one actually built by Deere.
Fair play mate you deal with this issue very well ! Looking forward to you having two cutters and seeing feed back, jd need to get on board and cut you some slack on $.. finding time to film and edit on your day in the land is admirable. Ps. When season is done can we have some updates on previous posts model A the jd rebuild and maybe a workshop tidyup. ? Cheers wes
A Krone Easy Cut B 1000 (Butterfly) would fit the bill perfectly. This way you could double the width with one tractor which can be used for other things when not cutting. You can run it with a 200 HP tractor and be narrower than the self propelled units for those trips to distance fields.
After watching this I must recommend a 12 volt transfer pump for that diesel. It would save you a pile of time and you can do things like greasing while it is filling.
You can come up with money and I bet you handle more cash in a day than I'll ever see in my life. I'd also bet that most of that money goes right back to the farm and equipment. My Father in law has a dairy farm that just about pays for itself. He doesn't know another life though so he keeps running it. At the end of the day if you're doing what you love and it keeps food on the table and a roof over your head it's a blessing.
1 you need a 12volt pump, 2 the sisu motor is a valtra engine made in finnish with probably one of the best reps in europe. 3why dont you get a front mounted mower and swing over trailed so you can work from one side of the field to the other? Or tripples on an 8000 series jd.
Do they happen to make headers where the guard sides have hinges to flip them on top to reduce the width for transport like some tractor front mowers? I know it would be a pain to set up each time but couldn't you buy the biggest header and make a trailer for it like a combine (you would cover more ground quicker "3 in might not be a lot but X it by how many times you go up and down a field and I'll bet it will be a substantial number" and also it would be easier to drive on the road + less wheelies when you stop ;-) ) onelonleyfarmer Hope you'll have more luck with what replaces the 240, all the best Arwel
Good to see that pile is gone! It made my heart sink when you said you'd be alright with a different NH machine. After all the bs and the inexcusibly awful customer service, you'd STILL be ok with them?? I would flip them the bird and lay rubber in their parking lot! Not that it means too much, but there is alot of people on here pulling for you to buy a deere, myself included! We as americans have alot of things that we cant build for shit, but trucks, tractors, and firearms are 3 things we dominate! Do youtube and your country proud Wes! Buy green!
Not hating at all, Sir!... A bit jealous, yes, but in a good way! I enjoy your vids a lot, even though I'm just a city dude... Great respect for your hard work... Thanks for sharing!
Have you considered buying another Case and paying to have it rebuilt? 2008 Case for about $65K and pay $30K to rebuild it to original specs PLUS any mods you require..
You know they now make an electric version of that diesel pump...just saying. Three inches in some circles can be a big deal, ask your gf. lol. Enjoy your videos and appreciate the time and effort you put into them. I think NH is starting to realize your not going away, way to persevere.
Odd Question for ya, How much does that pump move per crank? I hope this mower saga works out for you, I really do. you dont need this stress in your life
My several guesses of the big news are. 1. 4960 got repainted 2. something is goin on with those bulldozers we saw a while back 3. you found a tractor to restore this winter 4. you are going to start a OLF online store!? long shot I know...
We’d have to sell lots of wheat and cattle to buy some of that high dollar equipment. I have friends who raise pure bred Angus, their bull sale brings in more money every year than I could make in ten years. I admire them and you cause ain’t nobody giving you this money, you earn it. I wanted to get lots of money the old-fashioned way, marry it. That didn’t work out either. :) All the best, sir.
Big News Coming? Let me take a guess.... Did the 4960 get all repainted and is about out of the shop? No vids or word about it for a spell now. I'm wondering if she's got a new coat of paint and shines now.
Let's see, one operator, one big m, or what - three operators, and three wind rowers (think that is the swath difference). Well, if you don't think you're ready, and have the spare operators.... Sorry Wes, I think your ready, but I'm not a farmer, I'm a trucker. Equipment isn't personal money, equipment is operating expense, business money. If anything, the value of the equipment could be used as a gauge of business strength, there are additional considerations, but at a glance. Glad you took your mind off the 240 for a bit, you seemed to be a little too involved in the difficulties, and I was starting to worry about your health. There are many facets to your operation, I know it's obstructing the biggest part, but your intelligent enough to get it resolved eventually. I'm not saying that new Holland shouldn't compensate you for lost productivity, but we need you to be fit enough to look after your younglings, and get the job done when you do get the equipment you need. I'm just asking, so don't take this as a challenge, but, is it really that much extra work to get a big head for the wind rower, and use a header trailer? I mean, once you setup the machine, it seems it shouldn't be too hard. I'm just thinking 15 ft to 20 ft is a bit of time knocking down grasses. And wouldn't it be easier going down the road? Perhaps you would want to consider one machine with a big head, and one with a small head, and see what you want to do when it's time to replace them again. Too bad I haven't heard of anyone making a wind rower that will either belly carry the head for transport, or that can extend, rotate, and retract the head under the belly without disconnecting the head. It would help road manners - lower center of gravity, and reduce road width. Oh well, maybe you'll rig up a belly carry system for one of yours once they prove not to be defective. Hoping for better times wes.
the BIG M is $500,000.00 i could buy 3 wind rowers for less than that i don't have to run all 3 but two is no problem 30ft on the ground with the BIG M and the same with 2 wind rowers. the difference is when it breaks the big m will put me out till the parts get in the wind rower will only slow me down because i will still have a spare to run with,
Yeah, I caught the half mil mention in the vid., As I said, i'm a trucker not a farmer, and it's your operation. I thought the M had a 45 or 60 foot swath, oh well... Your the one that will use it, and get others to use it. I just thank you for the video peak into the life.... There are all kinds of efficiencies, if that's what you think you need, then that's your business. Any chance of a onelonleyfarmer belly header carrier mod in the future?
onelonleyfarmer That would depend on where you hung it from, the weight would be the same, and depending on how much stuck off the front would determine weight distribution. I'm just thinking, you drop it on the ground, then drove over it, and picked it up... I would think it could work.... Maybe a secondary hitch mount, so you could just re-use the arms to carry it, just 90 degrees to operational.... May even be better, because you would only be modding the head, as opposed to the head and a secondary lift system to the power unit.... I don't have the measurements for the arms tho........... could help keep the back wheels planted in road travel too......
Wes, best of luck with NH. I hope they do you right. You work hard, you earn everything you have. Hopefully no one gets down on you for that. Also, there is nothing wrong with being married to your machines and farming. That is passion and love for farming which is fantastic. I would do the same if I divorced. Will be watching to see what happens. -B
onelonelyfarmer your videos have been very helpful! our h8080 has hone near 1800 hours now, we are in australia and cut 2-4 tonne to the acre hay and it has been a great machine, would love to hear your views on the old vs new disc headers, havent done much research on the the speedrower 260 yet, should we be looking for an remaining stock h8080 to move onto instead of the new machines
+onelonleyfarmer have you heard much about the new series of speedrowers from new holland?, here in australia we are always a year or so behind the U.S with machine releases, a lot of triple mowers here now but the h8080 is still running like a dream, nice and simple like your 2303 thats the best thing about them, the new speedrower 260 product vid looks like a nightmare.
....makes perfect sense.....always have plan B.....i.e. a second machine.......just give it a little more time...you'll have 2 machines flying down the rows......
after what you went and are going though with nh i wouldnt let them give me a 260/220 i'd go right to deere even with what they want for one keep the fleet green
My cousin in Finland doesn't run nothing but Massey's and he's had excellent luck with them. SISU means "Power" in Finnish! ;) Like you've previously mentioned parts would probably be the issue there.
Sisu is a Finnish word generally meaning determination, bravery, and resilience. However, the word is widely considered to lack a proper translation into any other language. Sisu is about taking action against the odds and displaying courage and resoluteness in the face of adversity. Deciding on a course of action and then sticking to that decision against repeated failures is Sisu. It is similar to equanimity, except the forbearance of Sisu has a grimmer quality of stress management than the latter. The noun Sisu is related to the adjective sisukas, one having the quality of Sisu." Straight from Wikipedia...I hope you're a Finnish speaker, because you just corrected a person that is. Also, fuel and oil filters isn't going to fix shit if you've actually broken or bent something on the machine.
Well the ball is now clearly at the foot of CNH BUT will they do the honourable thing to resolve the situation? I have severe doubts as I think they will wriggle and persist in trying to do the right thing. However they cannot totally ignore the power of the Internet on such matters.
No jaellousy or hate here, Wes. Allthough my line of work is completely different, i do know what you mean. And therefor i can't understand why some people like to judge without thinking, aboout people like us spending a lot of money on equiptement and such. Hope New Holland comes up with a suitable solution to this matter.
Hi Wes Thats good news on the speed rower, Really hoping it stays good news, if JD won't give a discount on the machine they have ,Get them to throw in a 12v transfer pump. I really felt sorry for you watchin you crank that thing for near 10 mins,over a season that's probably a few hours down time if you work it out just pumpin fuel in machines. My Valtra 2000 6400 has 8000 hrs on it's 4 cyl turbo Sisu motor now, never had any work apart from service and routine maintenance, and still goes like a smacked rat with loads a power. Thats the whole reason Massey bought Sisu / Valtra equipment out, when Perkins was sold to the pussy power company L.O.L. They needed something else good to pull the Masseys butt down the road! Regards Robert
awd3264 Hi thanks for the reply i wondered if anybody would pick up on that comment l.O.l. you probably won't ever hear it again. It was something i picked up from a shop i worked in here in Manitoba, A few guys ran cat motors, and were not really impressed with the 3208's in farm equipment. So they called them pussy power, or used to say there's a good reason there Lemon color also L.O.L. Regards Robert
Craig H yep even if the machine is a good one, the dealer system has been absolutely destroyed and it's embarrassing. So I am with you stay away at all cost even though old new Hollands are good having a good dealer is half of owning a piece of equipment. Every machine will break down and if it's hard to get parts fuck ut
What isn't expensive anymore? We just picked up 3 new diesel pickup trucks for our farm and spent $245K (That's with deals/discounts). Odds are 1-2 will have issues before any of our older trucks.
Hey Wes why don't you have an electric fuel pump in that truck makes fueling enjoyable even though you are getting one hell of an arm workout haha. I say just keep the case new holland gives you the difference in money between the 240 and your old case you know it's reliable and will get the job done go get a deere and run that and just be happy I really don't think you should take a first year new holland speed rower especially with what just happened
Part of it is THIS- when you have an electric fuel pump, you start filling and then try to multi task- like greasing bearings etcetera- and run fifty dollars of fuel onto the ground because you're not there cranking it in.
alooha found you by accident... it looked interesting.... i laugh.... i was wondering what that beast cost... the 240... i realize farming is not cheap, its expensive, you love it or else your be doing something else (maybe producing video content... but you are blanche, you are).... kudos.... stay cool.... that cab w/o windows that aren't designed to open... what the hell??? major design flaw, maybe you want fresh air + running a/c probably uses abit more fuel???? ((another issue of bad design/manufacture)) well... i'm watching a 9/13/14 video on 11/22/14.... looking forward to finding out the saga of the speedrower 240.... more hay, more hay!!!!! aloha!!!
Your talking about DEF arn't you? I think you can order Massey stuff w/o it needing DEF, I can down here in OK. Our governor said that is for Cal not OK so we don't need it.
Justin James i was looking at the hesston website and there is a DEF tank on the 9870 (the new tier 4 model). We have to use DEF in Nebraska, but some guys are chipping equipment to get by without it- the downside is that voids the warranty.
Hows that country western song go? Harvest time. Time to pay the loans down. Price of doing business is getting reliable gear that's up to the task at hand. Shame that NH is screwing the pooch here. Luck with them doing ya right!
