I believe I could listen to you two talk for days on end about rifles and shooting. You two are bringing up things I never considered that should help me be a better shooter. Thanks, Eric and Speedy for doing these videos and keep them coming.
Fire control and barrel.... everything else just holds them in place!!! That's golden knowledge!! Thanks Speedy and Eric these podcasts are awesome.... like having a Hummer Barrel for your ears!
I am totally a social shooter, but my physics and engineering background make me interested in the factors of precision. I always wanted to learn to reload and watching this channel over the last year and a half I have done just that. Eric has helped me focus on what matters and ignore what does not, keeping it as simple as possible while giving me some things to work on that offer precision gains.
Great conversation guys. I loved going to Benchrest matches with my folks when I was a kid. I had a joke dollar bet with Mac McMillian the day he shot his perfect group at Skunk Creek in 1973 (and I still maintain that it was perfect). I was always amazed by the depth of knowledge and attention to detail the serious competitors brought to the game. Dad had a great grasp on all of the variables, and did quite a bit of testing when he was breaking in a new gun and working up loads, but he never kept the detailed logs and data that many of the other guys religiously tracked and compiled. He flew by the seat of his pants to a large degree, and that was enough to keep him competitive and let him take the Grand Aggregate at the Nationals in '75, but never enough to keep him at the top of the leader board consistently. It would be fun to try to get back into it again, but I have neither the time, the money, nor the discipline to get serious about it.
Bro! Super bad ass knowledge and wisdom 🙌. Keep on educating the audience whom wich to be educated. I look forward to the day to speak to you in person. You are definitely a credit to your hobby. Speedy rocks and is phenomenal in his endeavors for what he has impacted this community with. God bless you and your loved ones 🙏💪🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 👍❤️
Very interesting video. As a former builder and competitor of rimfire BR rifles, I know very different, but the bolt work are ignition are critical. Most folks don't understand the amount of work involved to get it right. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was like "Deja vu all over again for and old retired guy". I agree with Speedy on 2 types of shooters, I never was a social shooter. After I retired, I attended a couple matches just to visit, but I never shot the match.. I visited and talked to folks.
I have a Winchester M70 action that was blueprinted. The new metal is too soft and tends to smear on the lugs of the bolt. It looks like the gunsmith welded it with a MIG rather than a TIG welder. Little things are difficult to see until you put it to work. With a 3 oz trigger, this smear can cause major issues in a competition. This was a rail gun I built in 2001.
REALLY, enjoy listening to both , eric and speedy g ,you can see the close friendship between them.very much like working on my projects, listening to them in the background. always pleasant .many thanks gentleman.👍
This is a great interview! Both Mike Walker and Tony Boyer are icons of rifles in our industry. Speedy was fortunate to be associated with them. Please consider interviewing Dave Gullo, a long range BPCR championship shooter and proprietor of Buffalo Arms Company. Another interesting interview would be Adam Weatherby, the third generation CEO of Weatherby and grandson of the iconic Roy Weatherby.
I remember buying a limsaver rubber harmonic tuner for my ruger M77 30-06. Just a hunting rifle, but it was all over the place, 3 inch at 100 yards. light weight barrel, I put that tuner on, move it up or down the barrel till the group tightened up. It worked pretty good. This was 20 years ago ish.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It wasn't to long ago that knowledge was a secret not to be shared for fear of someone beating them either on the range, on the lake or preparing a hunting site. After 35 yrs in the military, I retired and bought a Ruger American bolt action 22LR to participate in our clubs rimfire benchrest fun shoots. I now realize I have a lot of tweaking to do. If you have anything else to share about improvements that can be made to rimfire rifles out of the box, please do. Thanks again. I'm hooked.
Thank you again fellas. Got a few more little rid bits to add to my knowledge. I had came to all the same conclusions on tuners over the last 25 years. They work well if you know that you need to change them in differently conditions. I have not shot center fire in 20 years, but if I seat again I’ll have a tuner. Always have used them on rimfires.
That was amazing, as a club competition shooter I have just learned so much. I had never even considered free recoil v shoulder pressure for vertical dispersion. Gentlemen thank you so much for the knowledge. I'm sure this one VLOG will serve me well over my next comps in Australia. Again, thank you. David
Erik need more information about bolt blueprinting. Speedy gave the dimensions for the one end of the shroud but not the other. Would appreciate those details. Thanks Or better yet a video of you guy's machining the shroud.
Erik and Thomas thanks for being the best F-Class and Bench mentors on the internet! Please don't ever start a TV show! I constantly rewatch your RU-vid videos. Most of all thank you both for all you have done for the world of shooting!
Thinks for sharing the things you know . I never thought that so much could affect a gun in the way they shoot . But it all makes sense . When you think about it
Always find it interesting when people discuss things I had ideas about, or experience with, at the time when I shot comps, and now am hearing some confirmation of, or am hearing it explained in a way that I didn't quite put together completely at the time, some of the why's that people have sorted out, that I had suspicions about. It all adds up, helps clear the picture a bit here and there.
Awesome stuff! I just talked to Speedy last week. I was asking him if he had any secrets to how I could shoot better when the mirage was bad...lol Mirage is something that is hard for me to shoot consistent groups with.
Great discussion! Thumbing up, and hoping you continue the series. From the robotic manufacturers I worked with, accuracy is placement, repeatability is a location repeated, and precision is having both tuned up on the wanted target at he same time. You'll never get a robotics guy to commit to accuracy or precision. They will only talk repeatability. The others are up to you. You probably have talked in CpK in manufacturing processes.
Well, if you like me, who went and checked their firing pin/bolt after hearing this podcast well Erick and speedy, you just created enough work for yourself to last a lifetime for machining these things out everybody’s gonna want it done now
Erick I want to thank you for all of your work on your videos. I subscribed a month ago and have watched all of your videos I could find. Your videos with Speedy are awesome. I need to learn more about F class. I would like to try it. Thanks!
Very interesting, never thought about holding fixed and free recoil changing velosity. It makes sense the energy created is transfered in both direction if it is not absorbed in free recoil it must go somewhere.
Wow. Funny I'm watching this about the coil bind. I just had a issue with my M70 Winchester with lots of misfires and lots of flyers. It was this. 2 weeks out from an international hunt I'm pulling apart my rifles trying to mix and match springs. Even a new winchester sping bound. But i found one that worked and bingo accurate. Who makes springs for this?
Being a Industrial Process Instrument Guy. Precision is Repeatabilty. (Small Group Analogy.) Weigh scale example: 10 pound wieight on 2 different weigh scales. Scale # 1 reads 10.20, 9.90, 10.0, 10.10 and 9.85 Scale #2 Reads 9.71, 9.70, 9.70, 9.71 and 9,70 #1 is more accurate but #2 is more precise. When it come to calibration "If it is repeatable, it is adjustable to be both accurate and precise. (Accuracy Analogy is the position on target.)
Ralph Stewart. My wife was tutored by Ralph. She has the dies and barrel chambered for the 30 Stewart. Mike Stinnett set the BR record with the 30 Stewart round. 0.0077 inch group. Also, John Miers helped her get her Robertson stock which she built up with a Stick Stark’s modified drop port Panda action. 6BR.
I said the same thing Speedy said; specifically about two types of shooters. The social and the competitive. People didn't like that. But when you start second guessing relationships / careers / where you live regardless of family and friends because you want the prestige of being the top in the world... Yeah. There is a differenfce.
I have to say, this is more of the funniest videos I've seen in quite some time. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and a hippie at heart, but I don't have long hair anymore. Hearing Speed say he was a hippie type made me laugh...in California we have always said for years that Texas would be a great place if it wasn't for the Texans...LOL To us it always seemed that Texans didn't like hippies, but maybe that's cause we were from California. The outlaw types are obviously hippie types, though, so what do I know...I have to admit I fit your and Speedy's sterotype of owning a lathe and planning to chamber with it, never done it before. I have bolts and blanks for 4 x 700 style actions. However, I don't plan to shoot competition, I primarily plan to hunt. I have 3 x PTG bolts for the actions.
Isn't it funny how every generation has to RE-LEARN things that earlier generations had already learned. Maybe videos like this will be super helpful to future generations and shorten their learning curve. In areas of high humidity leaving a dirty barrel will shorten the life of that barrel for sure. Carbon and Copper build up in a steel barrel will eat the steel of the barrel when you introduce humidity. That green patina that develops inside the barrel is corrosion and it's going to start attacking your barrel
This is amazing. I'd give my baby toe to be able to learn from Speedy directly. I know that in a week I could attain an amount of knowledge that could take me 30 years otherwise. However, I am confused about one thing. In his tuner story with the two "crappy" shilen barrels he said they didn't shoot because their twist rate wasn't fast enough to stabilize his boat tail bullets but then said the tuners made them more accurate without any other changes. There's no way a tuner can affect bullet stability from insufficient rpm so this just doesn't make any sense to me. Could I get some clarification?
I bought a Browning a bolt years ago and it came with a tuner from the factory. I don't know why they still don't put them out My gun will shoot just under one inch at 200 yd and it's bone stock.
when Speedy mentions the "titanium" bushing in front of the spring , i think he meant more a "tungsten" bushing , the goal being to have more mass . My DS is modified like that with a tungsten bushing that was cut and drilled to match the FP .
If i won a championship, i'd tell you i use a hard steel brush on a drill to clean it, or that it's NEVER been cleaned, or that i use pure ammonia on a bronze brush every day. 🤣 "What's your winning secret?!" Bro i store my rifles under water...
I wonder how much something like this costs?? I believe what they are saying due to a rifle I probably screwed up by taking the firing mechanism apart and 'cleaning' it. After reassmbly, that rifle never shot straight again....never thought about what I might have messed up. It was a Mauser 98 action too....which I wanted to keep. Ended up trading for a LH Rem 700 chambered in 270.
Hello, You guys have talked about Rem 700 actions being used in competition rifles. Question: have Win model 70 actions ever used in competition, or are they considered not as good? Thanks
hello r,f... i have been saying that for years,the flat bottom of the recever to me makes WAYYY more sense! but we are liable to start a WAR with the 700 rem guys. that beeing said,,,i have 700's as well . my preference,will be the win -70 .
@@stephenbaker7499 I honestly don’t know if they use other designs of actions, that’s why I asked. Just curious that’s all. I love my controlled round feed design of the Win Mod 70. I believe this to be a Mouser style action from what I know about them. Maybe there are competition class shooting rifles based on the Mouser/ Win style action?
