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Something I did appreciate in this game, the Symbiote isn’t making Peter angry. Peter’s frustration is his own (and it’s justified, Kraven just popped outta nowhere and ruined everything), and the suit is helping him act on that frustration. And that, in turn, is corrupting it too. It sorta harkens to the original black suit, ya know?
If you pay close attention to dialogue you’ll notice harry “talking to his mother” while in treatment. It was the symbiote. I don’t have it all here but I can tell you Peter did not make the symbiote evil in this storyline as much as I actually like that idea. It was already planning on taking over the world, it just forgot what it’s purpose was UNTIL you touch the meteorite again and it remembers it coming down here, that it has a purpose, combine that with eventually getting on harry and it uses the fact it spoke to him in his mothers voice to manipulate him into finalizing its plan and “healing the world”. In comics venom was never inherently evil, it was mad at spiderman for rejecting it. Eventually being good. In this story venom is inherently evil, and it’s host isnt. So, it has to manipulate harry into thinking he’s doing the world a favor. He never even came to terms with the fact he’d ever fight Peter, by the time you’re at the final fight and he shows his face he’s confused and scared. Also, upset that the suit has taken control of his body completely, trying to destroy Peter and miles. Basically what I’m trying to explain is the symbiote is evil from the beginning, it just doesn’t remember exactly what it needs to do until after the second lizard encounter
I like how the symbiote is portrayed on Peter. He couldn’t take control of his emotions and was struggling against the symbiote from a physical standpoint and a mental standpoint. More and more he began to fight like a mindless berserker. When the story got to the Miles fight he was so manipulated he literally wasn’t even Peter anymore! But he’s such a badass with the suit on and Yuri put up a 10/10 performance!!!
Lets not forget that also the symbiote is easily controlled by the host emotions for example Carnage emotions changed the color of the symbiote to red.
Evil is a point of view. And from my point of view, forcibly taking control of other people's body and mind, making them aggressive to the point of being feral, covering the entire city in black goo, all that serms pretty evil.
@@rlacksgh9673In the first hour of the game, Miles himself tells us that Peter was angry and frustrated, just because he holds back all the time does not mean that he is a being of pure goodness who would never react in an aggressive way
@@rlacksgh9673 To play a little bit of devils advocate for my favorite villain/anti-hero in Marvel, Venom/Peter was getting aggressive, but they didn't start acting villainous until they touched the meteor and Connors mentioned destroying the symbiote, I feel like that was the straw that really sent it into overdrive as far as Peter/Venom's distrust and hostility to anyone that wasn't them.
@@rlacksgh9673that's not really "evil" though. All that is, is a biological creature following it's natural instinct. Just like we humans eating from the planet itself (plants, animals) it might be considered evil but we are following are instincts at the end of the day.
This wasn’t me wearing the suit, it was the suit wearing my body. It’s some kind of symbiote. “Still, what do we care. Sinister six goes down hard and Parker gets paid for the pics.” Spectacular Spider-Man
The symbiote isn't good or evil. When Peter was dying the symbiote chose him to save him. But at the same time, was unstable and turned Harry against him and his friends.
@@sh-tx1fdI'd argue it's smarter than an avg animal. much smarter. it knew emotions and manipulated them in its hosts. so it was willingly taking over the planet
Prior to this the symbiote attempted to latch on to Peter before he even got hurt. Most likely sensing he’s stronger than the average human and wanting a stronger host
@@CrazyAlfYThopefully they will add it in the next update because a lot of people are alr upset at that and reasonably so cuz it is so off putting with the white goop
@@TheShape45or a Spider’s Shadow storyline, with him rampaging through the city killing villains left and right ending with the tragic death of Miles or MJ at the hands of Peter
I mean, the main game pretty much says what would have happened. Peter would have taken on Venom’s monstrous form, and the symbiote would have used him to spread itself all over the world. It simply would have used his guilt complex rather than Harry’s messiah complex, but the result would have been the same.
Interestingly, Harry seems to be fine when he initially wore the suit. No mood swings or negative emotions until it bonded with Peter, and got way more aggressive when Peter touched the meteorite and Dr Connors said they need to destroy the symbiote. I'm wondering if Harry still would've become evil if neither of those situations occurred.
@@OverLorD768To be fair even in horror games it's kind of absurd how obnoxiously slow people are. I can at least forgive Isaac since he's wearing a metal bulky suit.
I wish the developers would've just made the Symbiote Spider-Man saga go on for just a little bit longer. Like, I really wish that Black Cat was a part of Peter's story in the Symbiote saga instead of basically being an Easter egg cameo for Miles. If Black Cat was a part of the Symbiote Spider-Man saga, she could've been a true foil for Mary Jane as Peter would've been able to adhere to Felica's more care-free morally ambiguous nature with the Symbiote greying all of Peter's actions and amplifying his aggression towards criminals. Since Cat would know this would eventually include herself, she could've been the one to suggest that Peter remove himself from the Symbiote's influences or something. It's not a perfect draft, and I know the developers were aiming for a certain time frame, but I do wish that saga went on for a bit longer.
I think the voice actor for black cats husband died of cancer while this game was being developed, and the fact that they managed to still include her in. Fun way is great.
I agree. That was kind of ok, too. Though in that universe, "the suit" as it was called, is actually more of a vampiric organism, that could physically eat its host.
@LethalProtector8000 Yeah that was weird I mean the suit as it was called like you said was made to sure cancer. So like here in the game was gonna cure Harry if his disease I did like that Idea the symbiote being a cure for diseases but felt like it being man made was a bit out of place. We know symbiotes can heal there host if injured so why not from illnesses too felt in the Ultimate universe it could have been an alien still but then Peter and Eddie's find out that it doesn't just heal you but try to take over it's host while doing so
@shadowspidey7327 Don't forget its funding also came from a company wanting to weaponize it. Which is probably where the enhanced strength comes from. The scientists also died as well. With the proper funding, scientists, and development, it would have been a medical marvel.
And this was peak asshole Peter he could have literally bitch smacked her for talking to him that way it shows just how powerful a mother can be when it comes to her baby
Im sorry but am i the only one who thinks there should have been way more evil spiderman??? like these clips were the best part of the game and yet its so short lived..
True, i wanted to see him make lethal attempts on villians lives and have miles be like 'dude, what the hell are you doing?!' maybe have police shooting at him, or better yet scenes like the black symbiote vs shocker meme. like very nearly cross the line of being a villian. this version was a bit PG
@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 While a bit more of Symbiote Spider-Man would have been better, it was mostly to introduce and foreshadow Venom, and how its influence over the more unhinged and resentful Harry Osborne would lead to chaos.
Symbiote increases aggression etc in correlation to the personality, trauma and goals of its host in this universe.Hence why Harry wanted to "heal" the world by making everyone a symbiote since it was bonded to him with the sole purpose of healing his cancer and deep down Peter wanted to be a better spiderman by any means necessary which was amplified by the symbiote to the point peter lost control.Basically removes any consideration for restraint and impulse control.If symbiote was outright evil and wanted to take over the world it would've just took the meteorite when Peter visited Dr Conners to find out what it was.
Let’s be honest, Mary Jane is the reason things fell apart with regards to Venom and… well everyone. Look at things from Venom’s perspective, it’s busy protecting it’s host, who’s exhausted and asleep, all of a sudden they’re being attacked by Miles who previously Venom assumed was it’s host’s friend and by proxy, it’s. So, trust is shaky now, Venom is starting to panic because it and Peter are now seemingly trapped, hence why Venom seemed at first more concerned with getting out of the tunnel then dealing with Mary Jane. Then, again from Venom’s perspective, MJ uses sound to start hurting them, so again its trust is breaking until MJ stops the drill thing from making that sound. Now at this point Venom is confused but is willing to to give MJ a chance, hence why the mask retracted, Venom assumed she actually was trying to help out and since Peter trusted her, it should too. Then Mary Jane used her taser and any trust fit held for her, little as it was, shattered and it once again went into full on survival/protection mode regardless of why she did it. What everyone did wrong when it came to Venom was assume it wasn’t intelligent enough to understand what was going on, hence why it became so vindictive and lashed out later on against everyone, it was, from its perspective, simply responding in kind to how it’s been treated.
FINALLY someone who understands how the symbiote works, sometimes it overwhelms me that everyone thinks that the symbiote is a being of pure evil, when in fact the situations that it lived and the people with whom it was related were what shaped his personality, literally the first thing the symbiote does when it sees that Peter is hurt is to protect him and heal him because it knows how much Harry loves Peter, but when he saw how bad Peter was (both physically and psychologically) he decided to stay with him to try to cure him, Peter feeling more free took out all his frustration and anger that he has been holding for years, which negatively influenced the symbiote making it aggressive.
Counterpoints. The Symbiote immediately tries bonding itself to Peter the moment it and Harry realize Peter is Spiderman. This clearly indicates that it's primary concern wasn't to "protect it's host" because it bonding to Peter would mean dooming Harry, it's current host. Later events clearly imply that the main reason it wanted to bond to Peter was because Peter's unique biology empowered it and allowed it to spread all over the city. The fact that it was able to influence Harry's dreams and masquerade itself as his mother to stoke his desire to "heal the world" also suggests an intelliigence with motives beyond "just protect host". So from the very beginning, we can infer that the Symbiote always intended to infect multiple hosts and spread over the Earth. You can argue that Harry influenced the Symbiote and not the other way around, but the last chapters of the game clearly establish that Harry is out of the driver's seat; he immediately realizes that what he's doing is wrong the moment the Symbiote loses it's influence over him. The Symbiote Invasion is clearly an idea the Symbiote had, not Harry. I don't think the Symbiote is pure evil but it's not this misunderstood entity that isn't malevolent or dangerous of treated kindly. It's a sentient virus. It's primary goal is to ensure it's survival. And the logical conclusion to ensure it's survival would be to obtain multiple hosts. It's as simple as that.
@@Birthday888 I haven't followed along with the whole "Knull" thing since that's a fairly recent inclusion I think, but it kinda goes back and forth on it depending on the universe it's in but the general canon is that the symbiote is benevolent and takes on the subconscious and conscious traits of whatever host it's attached to, both to keep it's host healthy and happy while reaching it's end-goal of complete synchronization, as for this universe specifically I feel like there's enough ambiguity regarding it's intentions and influences that lands Venom squarely in the center of interpretation. To me Venom/Peter was mostly fine until Venom reconnected with the meteorite/Knull hivemind and Connors mentioned removing it from Peter and destroying the symbiote, that put Venom in survival mode in my opinion, that and being exposed to Kraven's "hunting ground".
@@bubbajoe117 This still doesn't explain why the Symbiote attempted to bond with Peter immediately despite having Harry as it's current host if it's goal is only "complete synchonization". I don't think you can classify the Symbiote as "benevolent" at all due to those actions, though I can agree that it isn't necessarily (actively) malevolent. At least until it reconnects back with the hivemind. Like, turning MJ into Scream and then making her fight Pete was 100% just the Symbiote being petty towards Peter.
A beautiful game and story. For some reason I've been seeing people upset about what the game doesn't have instead of what the game does have. I appreciate it for what it is. 10/10 for me.
the problem was that peter held back when fighting thats why and if he went all out he would have killed Kraven. Tbh the poison was even stronger than the one scorpion had since kraven must have created a poison that peter hasnt made the antidote for@@oldschoolanime3398.
Sinister six ain't shit compared to Kraven. Peter taking the brunt of a few walls doesn't mean he'll survive a direct stab wound by Kraven who has been implied to be abnormal in strength.
Honestly, the ONLY gripe I have with this game is that Peter’s part in the story is significantly better than Miles’… at least from a writing perspective that is. Better drama, impact, tension, relationships, and so many epic moments. Miles is a great character but every time I play as him I just want to switch back to Peter in order to advance Peter’s side of the story :/ But after I finished the game… Half of me praises the game but half of me says it’s so obvious they nerfed Peter and made Miles stronger. It’s even more obvious that come the final act (Venom to the end), they tried so freaking hard to make Miles cooler than Peter and seem to be intending to use him to replace Peter (who’s significantly more interesting and complex). Peter literally said to Miles “Why would the city need me when it has you?”, trying to tell the audience that Miles is a better Spider-Man than Peter in almost every way. As a humongous Spider-Man fan, they totally disrespected Peter and it honestly ruined the game for me. Well, at least Super Mario Wonder is fantastic! The only thing I like as much as Spider-Man is the Super Mario franchise :D
I think his time will come because he is a Young Spiderman. I really liked that he was just an addition in this Game because its Peters story he should be the side Kick
Ofc. At the end of the day a "Spider Man" story is going to be Peter's story unless specifically stated (eg the Miles Morales game), because he is THE spiderman. Its like the Avengers films for example, despite all of them being there, it was very centred on Iron Man, because he is THE avenger, or Justice League with Superman.
I'm not gonna lie, I don't care for miles. I'm a Spider-Man fan, and to me that means PETER PARKER. Calling Miles Morales 'Spider-Man' is like calling Dick Grayson 'Batman' just because he puts on the costume a few times in the comics, yet no one does that for batman, so why does Peter always have to share the limelight in modern Spider-Man media? After all the constant shit Peter is been through, now he cant even be the sole Spider-Man? To me, Miles is a giant distraction from the main event, and it shows in the writing of this game, which is clearly focused ENTIRELY on Peter. Even Miles's game felt more like a DLC than a proper Spider-Man game. Don't get me wrong, Miles is a good character, but to me he will never be Spider-Man, no matter how hard Sony and Insomniac push him to be accepted.
Many people are saying Peter is weak in this game, he is not, there are couple of feats:- 1. Catching a debris while saving tombstone with Harry as agent venom. 2. Stopping roller coaster, single handled the track 💪 while holding the roller coaster with other hand until Harry came. ( Very good feat ). 3. Catching an armoured APC ( a crime during open gameplay) above his shoulder. 4. In Wraith side mission, he stopped the train momentum and got stucked, still he stopped it. But couldn't lift it off it because he was exhausted. ( Still one of the best feats ).
Wait who tf in their right mind think Peter is weak in this game? No way people actually think that. This is the strongest I’ve ever seen Peter in a long ass time.
people say Peter’s nerfed mainly because he doesn’t do everything by himself since Miles is around. So instead of going “Oh Miles is equal to Peter now” they go “Peter got nerfed to make Miles look better”
Honestly the hunters are indeed a challenge to be hold, and overtime they actually get on my nerves. But seeing a single hunter in this clip as Peter is shouting at them, with fear in both expression and in there breathing is making all the more satisfying how much they make i wanted that and more. 🥰
As much as we all love Bully Maguire for the memes, it was a huge failing of the movie that we spent so much time laughing at Peter's dark side. This game, like so many versions before it, has us uncomfortable and scared for Peter. He's horrible to his friends and utterly selfish, which I much prefer over...a jazz douche
The way Symbiote Spider-Man was portrayed in here is WAY better than how he was in Spider-Man 3. No dumb dance, no stupid stunt at a jazz club, and no Gwen Stacy in the way!
27:55 “WHERE IS SPIDERMAN!” -Random moronic hunter “Find him yours.. UGHHH” (sound of bones cracking) 😂 Brutal and hilarious Don’t f with Black Suit Spidey
No one gonna talk about or acknowledge the part about Peter sending MJ to voicemail and hearing the Symbiote telling him to kill Kraven? Either swinging or not swinging?
@angeltrujillo9835 to die an honorable death* Otherwise he'd just commit suicide. Which is a major plot point in Kravens Last Hunt. He can't beat Spider-Man, he can't be a better Spider-Man than Spider-Man, and he can't get Spider-Man to kill him, so he puts a bullet through his brain.
Fun fact: The angle of the suit making Peter angry wasn't introduced until the 90s cartoon. Initially the whole thing why Peter got upset while having the black suit in the comics was because when Peter would go to sleep the Symbiote would take control of his body and go out and swing around then return before he woke up therefore when he woke up every morning he would feel super exhausted and the more tired you feel the more cranky and antsy you'll start to become. So he wasn't necessarily having his personality changed to be more angry he was just irritated on how tired he was feeling and took it out on the people around him.