I like that in the Spectacular animated series and older comics, Peter isn't shown to be without negative traits. He's relatable because he sets himself to an ideal despite faltering from it now and then. Kinda like how a real person would set oneself to the ideals of Superman.
You forgot how Andrew Garfield Pete is and you couldn't really adapt that to the big screen not really. Spider-Man main traction is kids these days. It ain't sit well with them if Pete acting like an ass 24/7 and bitter.
@@whateverwhatever4476 I see your point but I half agree. Because Spider-man is a victim of stories being created for profits. He's like Mickey Mouse in the way how Mickey isn't allowed to have character/relationship based stories like Goofy and Donald because he needs that marketability. I don't want a character to be miserable 24/7. Just when it's justified and I want characters to work through those emotions.
And taking responsibility to help take care of his Aunt, learn from her, and never give up mentality. Can't wait for you to possibly get to Green Lantern in the future.
Which Green Lantern? I could see Hal, John, and Kyle easily, but it'd be interesting to view Guy Gardner's loudmouth, douchebag personality through a different lens, maybe in a similar way to the Lex Luthor video. We need to call out the examples of what not to do just as much as we lift up the examples of what to do. That way, we cut back on the ignorant, loud, and impatient *boys* following men like hateful, erratic and unstable, sexist Andre Tate, who is only a man in his pathetic little "Matrix". Oops, looks like I accidentally dropped some bars.
I feel like one other thing that makes spidey masculine is his tendency to take responsibility for literally everything, he will blame himself for things that happened to other people
That's true. Even for small things, some of us just feel a little guilty because of something we couldn't stop. Literally when I was a sophomore in high school, I was just chatting with my best friend on the bus, and I saw a girl getting beaten up by another girl. I don't know what happened, I just know I saw it unfold. The girl getting beat up had blood dripping from her nose. I also told one of my friends about it during lunch. I wish I could've helped her. My friend at lunch, she told me "you can't help everyone." Even if that is true, it doesn't change the fact that I felt guilty being unable to help.
I also appreciate how tender Peter is, you can see this in how he treats Aunt May, his love interests, his friends, and the peopme he saves. He genuinely cares about people and is upfront about it, never truly hiding his emotions. Others might see it as brash or immature, but I think it is a testament of how resilient he is with expressing himself regardless of consequences.
@@giyuutomioka6974 bro i feel you whole heartedly, I remember one time I was walking from my campus, I was behind this other girl with purple hair, as we were walking by the traffic lights she was stopped and attacked by some guy. I stood there, turned around and walked away, because I was scared and a coward. Now I dont know if she is still alive or dead
@@yamilemagubeni9834 dude, if you see something bad happen, do whatever you can. Don't let fear hold you back. But I know how you feel. Have you been able to check on her?
Dude, I accidentally found your channel while doing an X-Men deep dive on RU-vid and found your wolverine and masculinity video. I have loved every video since and even went back and watched your older videos. You have criminally low sub count but don’t worry we are behind you just keep up the good work.
I believe that healthy masculinity is beyond an spectrum, it's about being successfully on your way, if you're a good person being bulk, if you're a good person being skinny, more or less "inteligent", charismatic, so you have an healthy masculinity, you must be a good person, this is the key for a good representation of the masculinity And Spider-Man is objectively a good exemple of masculinity, he isn't violent, only when specially needed, he isn't bulked, but strong, he has charisma, he shares his feelings and emotions to the right people (other heroes, MJ, May) and hides them to the villains, but at the same time, helping the most cruel people when they need He is a good exemple of masculinity
"Is Spider-Man manly?" Who the fuck questions that? The world keeps beating him down, but he still gets his ass out of bed in the morning for grind as Peter Parker and Spider-Man. Balancing the two worlds to both make a living and to do good for his community. And he does it with a joke and a smile. If there isn't a bit where Pete is chugging down maple syrup with the Avengers and decalring "I am all that is man" then there is a huge missed opprutunity.
@@hello-gx6oi yeah actual stoicism is just keeping your thoughts and feelings in line with reality (which isn't even a solely "masculine" trait). Just repressing all of your emotions except anger is called being an asshole, not stoicism.
Masculinity isn't having big muscles, guns, or sleeping with women. Masculinity is responsibility. It's easy to raise a gun, but a true man is waking up in the morning for work and providing for your family
2 more Villains that Spider-man Studied under was Dr. Curt Connors (The Lizard) and Dr. Doom who, so far to my knowlege is only canonized in the 90s animated series, but seeing as he is canonically childhood friends with Johnny Storm and he actually knew Reed Richards since before the accident, its a possibility at least.
Spider Man is a good guy, he helps everybody and dose the best he can, his powers are part of him but don't define him, Peter would still do what he dose with or without them. Even his villains can respect him and at times admire him. Something I love about Spider-man and his jokes is that yes, he's scared at times, but he dose it to distract. Himself, the bad guys, the people caught in the crossfire, it draws the attention to him. One thing that has come up in the comics is when Spider man stops joking, that's when people get scared, not just the bystanders, but the villains too.
There is a reason why I enjoyed Spiderman. The sense of responsibility and learning from your actions. He represents masculinity by improving and growing. Peter could've lashed out or be an absolute jerk like he originally was in his origin story. But he became a mature person rather than becoming his own enemy like Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin or any other Spiderman Rogue. Unlike them, Spiderman knew life was going to make him suffer but he knew that he needed to become a hero to help others and not make the same mistakes again.
Another great video man. I remember when you were under a 1000 subs not too long ago and you’re almost up to 5k. Keep putting this positivity out there.
I suppose theirs a lot of Spider-Man has I've endured a lot of hardship, still am but i chose to swing myself above it, to not become bitter but to remain my excitable wholesome and still be welcome to others no matter how hard I get. You know i think Peter Parker & Rocky Balboa would be good friends.
These videos of what masculinity is are amazing. Love the different takes and how Peter’s version is relatable to the every day man who’s just trying to their part and be exemplary to their fellow humans. Hope to see a Gargoyles Goliath and Masculinity - what makes a man and what makes a monster
I like the fan series of Spider-Man called Peter’s web because that’s where I see him jacked and more masculine and not a jokey worm with high pitch voice
I'd like to see you do one for Thor and/or Iron Man. Also, I don't know if you're a fan (since you mentioned Guts from Berserk) but I'd love to see a video on Kenshiro from Hokuto No Ken. Speaking of, I like that you took note of Bruce Lee being an example of being athletic and strong without being bulky. 🙏
I'll definitely be doing vids on Iron Man and Thor sometime in the future. And Kenshiro has been suggested a lot, I just need to watch the anime lol. Also Bruce Lee is the GOAT.
@imranbulks Hokuto no Ken is great. It is/was the poster child to "Manliness" for a lot of people and for good reason. On a related note, Bruce Lee and Hokuto no Ken really got me into Martial Arts over the years so I owe a big debt to both for being the man I am now.
Hey, do you think you could make a video on ezio auditore from assassin's creed 2, brotherhood, and revelations? I think his views on masculinity would be interesting. Also, out of all of the characters you've made a video on, who would you say is your favorite masculinity video?
I'm afraid I haven't played any of the Assassin's Creed games so no. And to answer your second question: probably Wolverine. I love flawed and tragic characters.
@@imranbulks you could watch videos of the gameplay. And man, ezio is rightfully one of the greatest characters in assassin's creed. I'm pretty sure hes the only assassin to get his own trilogy.
I was one of the people who made the commentary that I didn't view him as an (objectively) masculine character. Regardless I this video is... Rather heartwarming in a sense. I genuinely wish I could believe it.
He takes good traits from a lot of the ppl in his life, especially characters like Aunt May, Gwen and MJ. But I don’t think the feminine influences on his personality are what defines him. Spider-man to me has always been way more Man than spider, I think Stan Lee also talked about that at length in tons of interviews and behind the scenes stuff over the years
I find it odd that you'd say spider-man is not necessarily seen as masculine by the public because of his physique. Its not too odd because i see what you mean, however the physique is such a broad factor when you start looking at other characters that share the same physical stature but not the same sentiment. Daredevil is seen in every aspect as masculine by everyone around him even though he is around the same height (5'10 vs 5'11) and weight (165 vs 185. . . . im talking about the 616 universe for both characters) another character in perspective to add into the mix is Nightwing from DC comica, who stands at between 5'10" & 5'11", as well as sitting right between the weights of the previous two (175lbs) depending on the iteration of when he was younger, Dick Grayson has gone from being campy & happy go lucky like in "batman the animated series" & "The Batman" to serious; rarely letting his emotions loose around everyone, but still a kid that knows how to smile at times, such as in "teen titans". In such restrospect, around Batman he was the happiest & goofiest guy in the room especially compared to Jason, Tim, and Damien amongst others. However amongst the titans, even around Raven (who intentionally reserved her emotions since they are tied heavily around her powers) , he seemed like the most mature and least goofy member, even around cyborg whom i assume (not infer) was older than him. Nightwing seems to hold the balance of each iteration of robin, but even then depending on who you ask, in his adulthood is seen much as masculine. Jason is 6ft 200 and an angry guy with a motorcycle and guns, people will see him instantly as masculine as a Punisher & ghost rider. However Superman is only seen as masculine when he dawns his red & blues as well as being addressed as Kal-el. When being clark kent, he isnt necessarily seen as masculine to the people around him, even at his size, but rather passive and ever so slightly timid to his co-workers, even though he is probably the buffest and tallest one there. Compare that to green arrow who shuffles between 5'10 & 6'2, but sits at 176lbs, seen as masculine & depending on iteration, Right under batman in demeanor. I dont think masculine has much to do with a physical look as much as other factors, and depending on who you ask, the idea of masculine vs who isnt changes. I wouldn't consider Peter Parker Maculine, but in so many aspects, he doesnt need to be "masculine". Hes broke, but one of, if not the, smartest man in the room. He cant keep a relationship, but scored black cat, gwen stacy, and Mary Jane amongst other women in his life. He has the power to literally be a superhero around the entire world, but choses to help New york solely, be it a supervillain, a cat in the tree, a robber at a corner store, or a kid who lost their balloon. He went from a boy who got his Powers before graduating high school to a guy basically every city of NY on his shoulders arguably beyond what other heroes in the area are doing. That counts a whole lot more than being seen as " masculine " in my book.
Read "Spider's Shadow" he let's the alien goo control him after his loved one is hurt. He goes on a freaking killing spree and tries to assimilate the world, Inguess the new video game got inspiration from that one.
I don't think that Spidey is masculine, it just doesn't fits with his character. He is just trying to survive, help everyone he can and not go fucking insane with shit that happening to him every day, it makes me stronger when I see what he's doing, at least for a moment.. And yea, bro, FUCK SONY. #fucksony
The problem is Deadpool is a comedic and chaotic character. Hard to talk about about his masculinity when he's making raunchy jokes half the time lol. As for Cable - maybe sometime in the future.
Ain’t no way you saying “twink” and showing Tom Holland on the screen every time bruv. Literally anytime he’s not wearing a shirt in those movies he looks carved tf out💀
I hate the narrative that Batman is like the stud but Spider-Man is the teen weeb. Like peters been shown to be at least almost as masculine and close to being a stud like Bruce.
Growing up I was timid, conflict averse and pretty "unmasculine" and being an adult I am still timid and conflict averse. I believe masculinity is the vague expectations we have towards men. Be it the bad and the toxic and the honorable and the hot. But also one's morals, maturity and emotional strength. It took me a long time to learn that the internal aspect of masculinity is just as important as the external.
I just don't understand how anyone can say that Spider-Man isn't masculine. Even before watching this video, he's always been a role model of mine. I guess that's the difference between a casual fan or a "normie", and a more invested fan who pays attention to several iterations of the character. Not to rant, but "Normies" are my least favorite kinds of people, you say Spider-Man, they think Tom Holland, Mr. Stark, Iron Man's little baby boy. Instead of the lonely, independent man who suffers endlessly, fails constantly, and gets back up, all while smiling and bullying the bullies. Thank you for this video.