Spider-Man Humbles Captain America 

Yeah, it might be more accurate to call this "Spider-man Surprises Captain America."

I mean that's pretty much who Cap is at that point...

When You think about it Cap went through a very similar situation Being stuck in Ice for him everyone get older and a lot happened in the meantime, he wish he could have been there though Here MJ is trapped in dimension where time flow faster, so what for Peter is very little for her it will be a lot more, just like for everyone not frozen like Steve Spider-Man fear what an unknown future just like Cap did

and yet people still underestimate him

Everyone forgets he has a secret super power. Its called "Face of the Company" and it grants Absolute Plot Armor. Peter could fight and beat The One Above All, without any difficulty.

@@TheLastSane1 That's Batman. I'm not saying Spiderman doesn't have plot armor, but his victories are usually due to his absolutely insane power set, skill and intelligence. Batman relies on plot armor in the DC world where COUNTLESS villains and heroes could speed blitz him before he could even activate a contingency plan. Spiderman has Superhuman strength, speed, agility, precognition to attacks around him and incredible versatility and intelligence. And if he's serious, his uses his physical ability tiers that he usually limits to be the friendly neighborhood spiderman. He is not even close to the strongest marvel hero, but one could argue he's the hardest to pin down. He has so few weaknesses.

@@TheLastSane1 Also, Peter could honestly use some plot armor. While DC constantly gives Batman as much W's as possible, Marvel keeps on giving Spider-Man as much L'S as possible in his life.

@@9751matt And yet he fought the Phoenix Five and actually beat two of them. Cosmically empowered Mutants and he no diffed them both.

Do Broken bones count?

@@lostindustries4961 nah he'd probably be pretty lucky if they did

he keeps getting screwed everywhere

Goddamnit man, at this point, WHY EVEN LET COMIC CHARACTERS HAVE LOVE INTERESTS??? Ugh! It’s so frustrating, nothing ever fucking lasts so ultimately there’s no point to doing shit like this and that at all.

@@KaijuKingTheRisen The reason that nothing lasts for comic book characters is the same reason nothing lasts for soap opera characters: because the one thing that does last is the story.

According to a spider god: "The fate of Peter Parker is to suffer." That's why every Peter has similar trauma or bad luck, but every Spiderman that's not Peter doesn't.

You know many who do? Lol.

They do. Gwen did. And MJ also did. The fact that writers fuck it up on purpose is another story

​@Xeno Drake with Gwen, are you talking about the Norman situation or is there another one

@@xenodrake4008 Thankfully they corrected that with Gwen because that was a whole other league of Fkd up

Spiderman could take a shit, forget to flush and end up a national criminal

@@Black_Knight_-BK- Dude can go to a bar and get filed for underage drinking

Spiderman could breathing and get charged for air corruption

He could pick up a penny and get charged with tax evasion

@@lilnub3017 dude can sleep naked and end up on the watch list of the entire planet

Surprising that both the most popular heroes in each company end up doing that uh? Is like that had some effect... althought to be fair with peter it is a lot less dramatic

I say Batman is Ironman.... They have mad genius skills funded by billions. Peter has powers regardless plus is a genius.

​@@PochoNieves bro have you taken a look at either of those characters, they couldnt be further from being the same theyre both j rich

Batman is the Batman of the MCU. You think silly things like universes and continuity mean a thing to Batman?

​@@adamb89 Well, Marvel Vs DC is a thing, and it is implied that the One Above All transcends the DCU and MCU and is the same character in both continuities, so this kind of checks out.

You know forget hydra forget doc ock we found a Spider-Man costume that isn’t even confirmed to be the real deal better make spider man enemy numero uno

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What was it the goblin said? "You know what people love more than a hero? To see a hero fail. Fall. Die trying. Despite everything you've done for them eventually they WILL hate you, why bother?"

these little plot quirks happen constantly in the comics, people just accept them now. it happens because the stories get rushed and by the time they realize the plot problems they are a couple issues down the line already. only solution at that point is to resolve it with some off the wall bizarre explanation or just ignore it hope people will forget about it, both of these happen constantly in the comics. it's also why movies can't really stay true to the comics. comics fans are used to just accepting or ignoring these kinds of plot issues, but they would never fly in movies.

Is because the writter needs a reason to ruin Spider-Man's life.

THATS literally what i was thinking

RIGH!!, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING

I know right? I saw the picture and I immediately started looking for this comment.

"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world"

Ikr

It’s so ass

Face injury and bruises

@@awsomesause Even before the bruises they still look messed up

I've never heard of this story arc, but I would bet money that's the artwork of John Romita Jr, AKA JRJR. I'd recognize his style anywhere. I honestly would read a Marvel title literally for no other reason than because he drew it. I don't even care what the character is, because he can do everyone. But yeah, he does like to draw scrapes and bruises and broken noses like that. You should see how that looks on more aggressive characters like Hulk, or Daredevil. There's a LOT of gritty texture.

How?

I mean, it's for the better, now he is with a fully supporting Black Cat.

who cares, Black Cat is much better anyway

@@mr.jultra4720 blavk cat dont tal to Peter for stupid of supirior

@@felipedelrioalvarez6335 what the fuck did you even type???

They fucked up Peter/MJ relationship so much that i don't want to see them together anymore, let Peter date silk or felicia and MJ date whatever she wants

You don't even know how long it took for it to happen. It wasn't instantly, dude.

@@griffinmckenzie7203 She still cheated. It isn't the same as "finding out" that Peter is dead.

@@acosilicon And how exactly is she supposed to formally break up with Peter? I'll wait.

@@griffinmckenzie7203 She shouldn't break up with him unless their relationship is shallow to begin with. Why bother sending him back and do that whole "sacrifice yourself" thing only to hook up with another guy?

True yes, but if they were to really fight. Captain wouldn’t stand a chance

@@asian_gaming2047 the MCU really ruined Spider-Man’s reputation IMO. The civil war scene had casuals thinking cap was stronger than Spider-Man for a while

This. Also does not help that this Run (current one) has been awful in showcasing Peter being immature Quite literally all he had to say to Cap here was “MJ is in trouble and I need ur help” Cap who has experience being in a different dimension would have helped him

@@nonameselected7250 He was also an inexperienced 15 year old who only had his powers for half a year prior.

@@confusedbakugo1373 I know that. I’m saying it put the idea that cap is physically stronger in most casual viewers’ heads.

They also dislike their fans too

That makes no sense, as well. If the brief time Peter spent in that universe was a week's time in his own world, then he should have had plenty of time to retrieve help and go back for them before they could build a serious relationship. Like, come on, the writers can't even maintain consistency with their own story?

@@Nyrufa No, I think it was that Peter and MJ were a week in that other universe, while virtually no time passed in their own.

@@Nyrufa peter only spend about a week or something in his universe, while mj spend "a long time" in that other universe

I do agree

I mean a human being can lift like 6000 lbs on a back press (world record tbf) but can't bench more than 1100. So yeah it makes sense that he could lift weight around 100 tons mostly due to the writers having n clue how much something should weigh.

This is backed up by when he beats down on kingpin for harming aunt may. its one of a handful of comics that proves he could kill anyone in his rouge's gallery if he really wanted to but just like you said "spiderman holds back alot"

@@TheLastSane1 what exactly is your point?

Spiderman can lift like hundreds of tonnes when serious. He had lifted a part of daily bugles estimated to range from hundreds of tonnes to a thousand tonnes.

@@wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457 because most writers don’t know what things weigh

Right?

these hoes aint loyal

That’s what I’m saying. She gave up on him lol. He’s fucking Spider-Man lol

no he didnt

@@excusemewhatthefook9035 youll never know

@@excusemewhatthefook9035 definitely did

The shield was already cracked. I don't remember what cracked the shield but it wasntSpidermann lol

The shield looks that way in the panel before Peter even touched it. Peter did not do that to the shield

no its more like the fact that shes moved on, cuz later in the comic u realise that they have a FULL FLEDGED family. Considering that about 10 mins in their OG dimension is a week or more in the other one, think about what a few days is. The time period to move on then marry then have kids its lots of years

@@AAslayer this wasn't an argument it was a statement mj is unloyal plain and simple dont try to justify modern bad comic writing because if this was an argument you lost by attempting to present ur side of it

sounds to me, MJ is the biggest slut one can be with, my man Spidey had to rush to get to her before she getting down with another dude lmao

Writing issue

Reminds me of the Girlsdop*rn meme. As soon as military guy has been sent off, girl gets to casting

probably bad writring. But also I guess its like a decade has passed and alone

repent to God

He almost did. When he rescued her, she tried to come back to him, but he refused and dropped her like a sack of worthless trash. Now he's fucking Black Cat, who's > MJ ever was. A true GIGACHAD.

Same.

remember...Gwen had two kids from Norman in "Sins Past" which i heard it was retconned...so should it count? i don't know

American comics don’t make sense, chronologically and canonically.

@@halfbee7886 What does it have to do with comics being American? lol

The whole self victim edgy thing they been doing with spider man is kinda lame to be real

They only did this to split pete and mj again because marvel editorial dont want peter to have a stable relationship

@@lejohn_e64 nah peter just got cursed with suffering by an eternal god

But that is pretty much every Hero in all of Marvel and DC. If Ironman went all out killskill he would have Stark Industrie up in action in no time making weapons that could kill gods easily. Pushing human technology to insane levels in a very short period of time. But he holds back. His suit is designed to be less lethal and more damage control and speciality against supervillains in a very non lethal way. Thor could litteraly turn earth into a ball of volcanoes. The hulk could let loose and would eventually kill everyone and everything on earth and then just head out into space to continue. . .

@@kenji214245 Yeah but they more often face bigger threats where they need to go all out so people are used to seeing their full strength. It's rare to see spiderman go against stuff he has to use his full strength on so it's easy to forget that Cap is really weak compared to Spidey. Spiderman is the local neighborhood hero after all.

@@MyName-Jeff In some comparisons yes the issue is that several authors keep changing spidermans and his enemies strenghts. ocotpus, croc, Goblin and some others are supposed to have one or several traits that put them on par with Spiderman. Green goblin being one of the worst since he has both the intellect, strenght and only somewhat slower on speed and reaction speed.

@@kenji214245 Yeah but thats another problem the is everywhere in comics which is part of what makes things tricky. So you kinda have to look at what the most popular versions are and the trends that appear in those and weigh that more heavily than versions that are less well known. Its more art than it is science figuring out the perception of a character.

Exactly, when Doc Ock was Spider-Man, he literally punched the S*** out of Scorpion’s jaw and broke it!

Not really lol. If cap was actually trying cap would easily go toe to toe with peter. Spiderman wouldnt be able to easily crush cap

​@@MK-jz6gm hah good one but I give you this Peter punched hulk with all of his might and not get his arms broken while doing it.

@@Red-mx9tx hah good one. Cap still whooped spidermans ass even while wearing the iron spider suit. Caps has abilities which spider man does not and his vast combat experience and abilities give him the edge. Cap is a better tactician and strategist than spiderman ever will be. Plus he also has a sixth sense to react to unknown attacks.

@@MK-jz6gm Guess who also has a sixth sense to react to unknown attacks? It's Spider-man's maybe third most recognizable trait, after the wall crawling and web slinging. Also, no. I'm sorry, but the super soldier serum does not come close to giving you the amount of strength, speed and dexterity that spider-man has, who can lift at minimum 10 tonnes. Using the MCU "fight" between Cap and Spidey as any form of reference point is hilarious. Peter has not used even a fraction of his real strength in the MCU yet.

@@YurgenGrimwood who used the MCU fight scene as a point of reference? Thank you for showing your lack of comic knowledge tho. I am referring the fight between cap and spiderman during the civil war storyline in the comics in which spiderman had his iron spider suit and was getting his ass kicked due to caps superior tactic, mental abilities and combat knower and abilities. Cap instinctively adepts to every fighting style and situation which gave him the edge. Cap had enough strength to spidermans attacks and has enough strength to hurt peter. Plus he is fast enough to keep up. Spiderman never hit cap until he used his robotic arms, which cap had no knowledge of and after that he was still kicking his ass. Also the sixth sense part regarded the fact that cap also has something similar to the spidey sense which also helps him kn fights. Comic caps bas strength is around 5-10 tons, he is also superhuman like spiderman. Also wrong, it gives cap enough dexterity and speed to keep up with spiderman. Plus his combat speed is just as fast as spidermans. Cap has acrobatic skills on spidermans level and fast enough reflexes to fight him. What gives cap the edge are his mental abilities that also got enhanced on superhuman level which is not the case with spiderman. Cap can think faster than spiderman and can use his brain more efficiently when it comes to combat, tactics and strategy especially in fights. Caps combat experience is miles aboves spidermans aswell, ranging up to +112 years.

I don't think Cap would believe he isn't a Skrull or something, and would just take him into custody for a few weeks. By then, MJ would be dead of old age, if nothing else.

@@calanon534 That's the part he *would* understand.

Well, taking in consideration that Cap doesnt have a lab, he's running out of time and he was trying to get access to Reed's lab so it has sense to explain to them about his plans to those 2 + Cap already told him it would take 1 day or 2 to fnish with the paperwork of what happened.

It really sucks that for so many years, Peter and MJ were ride or die but that guy who was behind the one more day storyline just absolutely hated their relationship and had decided that them being in a healthy adult relationship made him unrelatable

i don’t know if anyone else is brave enough to say this but 🤓🤓🤓💀

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@@yourmatetwo I'm not really offended because I was simply correcting a clickbait title

@@pacmiller7564 it wasn’t my intent to offend, i was just saying it for sh^ts n giggles

​​@@pacmiller7564 you say that like cap would even be able to stop him lmao. Cap didn't let him do anything

Cap can’t beat Spider-Man😂😂 miles killed him

The kid? 616 Spiderman hasn't been under 18 in several decades, and that was the brief period of time Cap could stand a chance against him if Peter was serious. Peter in his late 20s could absolutely decimate Steve and has several times.

Spider-Man if written properly no diffs Captain America. He's massively stronger and faster, has the Spider Sense and he's also way smarter.

​@latrellsheppard1563 he didn't though. Hydra Cap let him beat him down so that he can alter reality and even with all the PIS strength Miles had there, he still couldn't knock out Hydra Cap nor do any lasting damage. The only big name marvel hero who has packed Cap up is Iron Man with prep and Extremis enhancements... barely.

@@9751matt Age wise most people are kids to Cap

He actually has a few of those

@@pacmiller7564 yea unfortunately. It’s a shame. the character deserves better. The readers deserves better.

I just thought that when this finished. I don't like the recent Spider-Man issues... Idk.

I mean they have gotten better. Many times. Spider-man has so many damn stories, of course there’s gonna be a few duds

@@HonerableG unfortunately 95% of the Spider-Man stories are total garbage

I thought it’s John Romita Jr?

@@BrandonNielsen87 oh crap you're right sorry bout that

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A good number of them. Not all of them, by any means, but a good number of them, yeah. Check out Ryan North's run on Squirrel Girl for something refreshingly different.

Paul doesn't need to hear all of this he's a trained professional

At least Peter has a living family member

@Yasuke at least caps uncle didn't get shoot and need motivation to be a super hero

Bro is malding over a comic book character. Grow up kid

@@WhatABeautifulDuwangChew bro doesn't even realize we're both being sarcastic oof

@@anubisrose560 I don’t see any appropriate place for sarcasm in this video. You can’t bring up the sarcasm card

Thank you that's what I said in my comment and now the Spiderman fanboys are mad for some reason.

@@pacmiller7564 that’s just how they are. They overreact when things like this happen and ignore what’s really going on

It's just bullying culture probably men thing by using their strength to dominate someone who is "bothering" them in their mind they justified by thinking of it as "humble someone who need it" the reader who can identified with those mindset feel validated thinking they are the cool guy when they see their hero does the same thing they do

@@knie1172 makes sense

🤨I see a black man not will smith

bro...

Yeah the entire plot was kinda dumb

@@pacmiller7564 Like why tf would Peter Parker bury his suit in the ground?

​@@PsychedelicShark. I swear. 😂 once the video came to an end, the first thought that came into my mind was "man... This is ass." and came to the comments. None of this made sense and Peter wasn't Peter.

@@PsychedelicShark. fact's but what's funnier is spiderman being the most wanted criminal in America lol magneto and red skull say hi 😂

@@HomellAlcautor Peter’s brain is literally non existent