Spider-Man & She Hulk Sue The Daily Bugle!! 

"Years of Slander?" "I resent that. Slander is spoken; in print it's libel," JJ from Sam Raimi's Spider-man.

As a retired court clerk, I loved this run o She Hulk and laughed out loud many times. It is, however, no less realistic than, say, "My Cousin Vinny," These stories will never be realistic because in real life, most of the time, court cases are really, really boring. And to portray a real court case would take a movie of about 20 hours or a comic arc of 24 issues. So, just like in "Perry Mason" we suspend disbelief and never bring up the inaccuracies. It's still lots of fun. And my favorite was the one you showed in the introduction: Superman accused of murder, where he takes the jury back in time. That could be a video in itself. And it is done seriously, or as seriously as the Silver Age can do anything.

There actually is a basis for the idea that Jonah's anti-Spidey stance is at least partially motivated by profit. There's an issue where he's accused of that and he responds with, "If a crusade will sell papers then J. Jonah Jameson will have a crusade." But he DOES also have an anti-vigilante stance.

2:04 "Slander is Spoken; In print, it's Liable"

I think the lawyer side of She-Hulk is so under-appreciated and underdeveloped. If they wanted to do a lawyer story arc, they should've talked and consulted an actual lawyer Like Legal Eagle. And instead of having multiple trials, the entire run should be at MOST 1 or 2 trails. It should be a big deal, have long-lasting implications like fight superhuman registration acts, or suing evil cooperation like Oscorp. I know that this is blasphemy to say but the superhero part shouldn't be an interesting part of that character. Especially when the universe is over-populated with superheroes (a handful are lawyers too)

As a black dude the "im black line" had me cracking up i won't lie lol

There is an issue of Superman's girlfriend Lois Lane where Lois is accused of killing Lana Lang and Superman is the Prosecutor and Batman is her Defense Attorney.

Peter Parker: Spider-Man wasn't trying to attack the city, he was trying to save it. That's slander. J. Jonah Jamison: It is not. I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel.

Better hope Batman doesn't sue over that signal. I think he has the money to bury spidey

Please make a playlist on Fictional Court Cases...

J. Jonah Jameson resents that you called it slander. "In print its Libel." [End scene]

"because he sure didn't save Uncle Ben, did he?" - It was 1963 but it's Peter so it's still too soon Sasha. Still too soon.

Peter isn't rich from the Webs book because Jonah ripped him off for it. Since Peter took the photos for the Bugle, the photos belonged to the Bugle. I can't help but think that was a little commentary about how Marvel treats their artists. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the story due to not being legally accurate. I love it because it's a funny way to view the Spidey/Jonah relationship. Oh well.

I often wondered why it was Matt Murdock that defended Bucky Barnes in his trial, and now I know.

The "it's because I'm black" line is so good, it's a piece of art all in itself.

"John's here because he's the first person that spiderman ever saved. Because he sure didn't save uncle Ben!" ooooooohhhhhh you didn't

The one thing I remember from the newspaper strip when I was a kid was an arc where Jameson published something clearly actionable, and Spidey looking into suing him. His lawyer told him that to file a suit or take the stand he'd have to reveal his actual legal identity. Thus Stan Lee shut down any pestering questions from fans. As for the suspension of disbelief...at some point creators are just playing volleyball without a net, or running with the basketball under their arm, or making a Star Trek movie. Even with comedy, if their not working with any actual rules, then they're not really solving any story problems, and I don't find it satisfying as storytelling.

When you said Dan Slott, I was like of course he would turn a She-Hulk issue into see how much I know about Spidey. When he wrote Spider-Man he was constantly flexing how much of Spidey's history he knows.

When you have a lawsuit and you need someone to someone to handle in the case. Who you gotta call? She-Hulk!!!! And Daredevil!!!

This video is a menace!

I love this run, it's one of the first comic books I've every read and made she - hulk one of my favourite characters!! Edit* the upside down sparing dumbing is actually the Amazing Android, who was working at she-hulks firm. He used a chalk board to communicate.

“Cause he sure didn’t save uncle Ben” Holy shit, that was so savage

I am not sure if this counts, but I seem to remember reading a comic where The Beyonder(yes, THAT Beyonder) hired Nelson and Murdock to find a way for him to legally take over the world. He even paid them with gold he recovered from the ocean. He claimed it was legally his under international marine salvage law. I am fairly sure this was a Daredevil comic, though the story was treated as something of a joke. It was resolved in that same issue.

20 year Law firm employee enjoying Sasha's repeated bouts with "That's no how this works. That's not how any of that works!"

If you're looking for more court comic stories: Who Killed Batman. Batman 291-294 and the best one is 293. The story is that Batman is dead and all the supervillains are claiming they killed him, so they hold a trial, listening to each villain's story to see who is guilty. Ra's is the judge and Two-Face is the prosecutor. There is a twist at the end, one you can definitely see coming but I'll still keep it a secret. This story also inspired the fan favorite episode of Batman Animated Series "Almost Got Him". But lets get to issue 293, the best one, where Lex Luthor kills both Batman and Superman in the most convoluted stupidest way possible and it's totally amazing. You should read it just for that. Love your stuff.

Your voice for Spider-Man makes him sound like a petulant child lol. Slott seems more interested in showing off his knowledge on the Spider-Man mythos than writing a realistic court case but still this issue sounds like a fun sketch which I don't mind.

There’s actually a comic about j Jonah Jameson adopts Spider-Man and in the end of the comic they become a team

I love trial comics, have you read the one where Punisher killed a cop "by mistake" and surrendered himself to be trialed? Great comic.

@9:51 (in 2020, backing away slowly from quip) Sasha, maybe as a follow-up pls cover the issue where Jennifer and Jameson's son have dinner for the first time with his dad and his new wife :)

Words from the great JK Simmons, “Slander is spoken, in print, it’s libel”

She-Hulk has brain and brawls what’s not to love.

Since THIS WAS the my favorite court case that I mentioned in the last video on a court topic, just because racist, sweating JJJ lol. Even though this wild for a real court case, but thisis the Marvel universe, and I expected LOOSE rules. At least both Peter and JJJ have made up since then ( Well, 15 years our time, but a few year canonwise, huh June 2004, Spider-Man 2 is out making bank) ("Bitter Betty" huh, with the hair and black top, more like a, I don't know, a "Nasty Natasha".)

"electro for assault with a battery" Done son

I'd heard of this story before, but I didn't realize it was a She-hulk issue. I legit thought it was in the main spider- man line.

5:44 Of DC Black Lightning from the Super Friends. LMAO Spider-Man will always be a Lone Wolf...ah...Spider.

That she hulk image at 0.53.....pure love at first sight

Please do a video on the sequel of Lois Lane marries Lex Luthor, which takes place in Superman's Girl Friend Lois Lane #46!

This was hilarious. You're legal frustration was great and legal facts accurate.

5:28 I think that's the awesome android also seen in 5:09. Why a robot would need a workout is another matter entirely.

Great video! You should do one about Jameson trying to sue Peter after his unmasking in Civil War. She-Hulk had just married Jameson’s son and if I recall, she offered to sue him, for the tech Tony gave him.

Slott's She-Hulk was fun and bounced between TV level court chaos and super action comedy. It used a lot of lesser known characters, added some nice new ones, and had a lot of meta-textual jokes. The law firm was a nod to the founding fathers of Marvel and used trades as court documents which was great. Edit: Webs was late 80s iirc. It was mentioned back during the Inferno tie in book as something new and yes, it did give him a good boost of income for the time then. So even with time slide, Webs would be 3 years old or more by the time of the story so the money would have slowed a lot.

You know during trials when the jury is polled? I was on a court case, I was a juror, when one of the other jurors changed her mind during the jury polling. She began sobbing and the amount of the award went up. This was in Asheville, North Carolina.

The 3 Senior Partners are Martin Goodman (1st Marvel Publisher) Stanley Martin Lieber (aka Stan 'The Man' Lee) Jacob Kurtzberg (aka Jack 'The King' Kirby) Their likenesses are even used in their single major appearance in Issue #11. Holliway and Book were both fictional...

Stops suddenly, “..Suspending..” BWAHAHA!!!! Aw man, I have to do that all the time.

Sasha I have finally figured out which marvel superhero you are your she-hulk, because your tough as hell, you started your own youtube channel and that takes guts and your probably one of the craziest RU-vidrs I know who knows comics like a boss and takes them super seriously and you made amazing quality youtube content!

It's always suprising to me when you do Spidey's line all pitched and nasally cuz I always read his lines with the 90's TAS voice. Yeah, the "Shocker!" Voice

The Spider-Mobile would be a great future video - how Marvel was asked to do it by a car company, how Gerry Conway thought it was a stupid idea, how quickly the vehicle was disposed of, and how it came back and tried to kill Spidey.

"Did you ever read a joke and get the impression that the rest of the story was structured around it?" Yes. In My Little Pony with the episode "28 Pranks Later". I wouldn't be surprised if the entire episode was written around the zombie movie parody during the final act because of the amount they needed to flanderize Rainbow Dash's insensitivity and love of pranks in order to justify the town's revenge prank.

She Hulk looking like a snack in the thumbnail...hold uuuup

Yo, I remember reading the Trial of Reed Richards! It was during Marvel's spoof event, "Assistant Editors' Month", so it started out silly, but got serious real fast

Sasha, if you're not aware of it, check out Law and the Multiverse. It's a blog that was written by a couple lawyers, dealing with the legalese of comic book and movie stuff just like this. They do go into Spider-Man's potential difficulties with appearing in court, masked.

That "Awooooo!" after John Jameson's testimony killed me.

The “Webs” book was a thing when I was a kid reading Spider-Man. It was “Marvels” before “Marvels.” It did provide a nice source of income for Peter. :) (ASM #304 from 1988)

I remember a time when Spidey was on a similar position as when he was asked how the court can know if he was the real deal and he did some acrobatics to prove it; the funny part, he was disguised as Daredevil but as the court was not able to prove otherwise the case had to continue assuming DD was his secret identity

Drinking game: Every time the suspension of disbelief has to be reinforced by saying "Suspending", take a shot.

Surprised 'Webs' is still in print though that price sounds like it is way discounted at this point. I forgot that book was a thing. Think last time I remembered it mentioned was the original Civil War with the unmasking of Spider-Man and realization it was an expensive book of selfies.

Also that “I’ll flash everybody” had me saying hol up what she say until she cleared it up

I've got this She-Hulk book. This was a fun story. I loved your voices for Spidey, Jonah, and Pug. 🙂

Lawsuits in fictional settings with fantastical elements are a lot of fun! I do wish they'd done a more serious take; maybe it should have been an Elseworlds story so ramifications from it can be ignored in the wider canon?

09:43 I will buy this issue alone just for that line! I actually thought that Miles Morales would be Spiderman and that would be like "BOOM" in your face, J. J. Jameson, in your face! lol

Goodman, Lieber and Kurtzberg are named for Martin Goodman (original publisher of Timely/Atlas/Marvel), Stanley Lieber (aka Stan Lee) and Jacob Kurtzberg (aka Jack Kirby). Holliway was the madey-uppy one.

I’ve never read a She Hulk issue, now I feel like I’m missing out on so, so much fun.

The fact you put your ALL into reading the story, makes this the coolest comic pg on youtube! Keep it up🥳

Your voice overs are killing me. KILLING! ME!

"This seems like a bit of a trial run" I see what you did there!

I am surprised the court didn't demand he remove his mask and reveal his secret identity! You would THINK the court would do that as a matter of course.

Sasha you are covering one of my favorite comics and have made my day. Thank you so much!!

Robbie Robertson's trial and prison time during the Tombstone arc in Spectacular is an all time favorite of mine. Lonnie&Robbie 4EVA!

Loved this run of She Hulk. Billobos art is awesomeness and most of it was silly but, enjoyable. It really could be an animated series.

In the Spider-Man movie where he is Spider-Man no more they also touched on the idea that Jonah actually likes, or at least respects Spider-Man. He starts to admit it and then Spider-Man comes in and grabs his suit back and the anti-spider sass is back on!

Dan Slott is a great idea man. As terrible as his Spider-Man run became, some of his stories are good ideas. For example, Spider-Verse is a good idea - bring in some alternate universe Spideys, give them a common threat, it would be fun. But the story we got made no sense, was terrible, and included so many alternate Spideys that the real Spidey became a supporting character in his own story. I agree with you that this story likely started from the "Because I'm black" line and he created the rest of the story to get there. This is a funny and pretty unoffensive Spidey story, so it works here. It was stories like this and his Spider-Man and Human Torch mini-series that got him the job writing Amazing Spider-Man. Unfortunately the readers quickly realized that Slott works better writing occasional Spidey stories instead of an continuing series.

I loved the Spidey Mobile back in the day. And finding out Peter Parker doesn't have a driver's license and being from California that totally shocked me.

Now to show a different side of things with Spidey and Jameson, look up issue 6 of the recent "Spectacular Spider-Man" run.

same run, but I like the one where she is on trial against the Time Variance Authority, it's even more silly but has some really touching moment for She-Hulk.

I loved that run! Really good and fun with the occasional bit of seriousness. Big fan

BBC Radio did Superman on Trial. It brought comic characters and real life writers and artists to the witness stand.

Peter actually did release his book in the spider-man comics its a compilation of pictures he's taken of Spider-Man

If you're going down the courtroom rabbit hole, PLEASE discuss that death march of Trail of the Flash story!!! I stopped reading that book early on, and never understood how it lasted as long as it did!!

Sasha girl I'm loving that wig I am in love with that hair mama. and by the way I'm glad that I saw you with your nice hair because I didn't even realize that they dropped me for my subscription. so I gladly renewed my subscription honey and I'm definitely a patreon again💋 keep up all the great work.

I love this. More of She-Hulk shenanigans!

When the narrative goes left " suspension of disbelief. Because Comics .......Nice👍🏾💯

Can you cover hellcat a.k.a. patsy walker in some way? I ended up learning about the character through Jessica Jones and bought a couple of her comic books and loved her more. I feel like her comic books have the same humor of the female flash and gwenpool and a pretty good action level that most marvel comics have.

11:56 "A bit of a trial run." I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

Dan Slott's run was the one that made She-Hulk one of my favourite superheroes.

Eh- it was OK. John Byrne did a great job with the humor in his She Hulk run though

"I'm suspending, suspending." 😂🤣

3:14 - Spidey that last one was beneath you and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Maybe the She-Hulk tv series will do a similar storyline. I kinda remember seeing an interview with Todd McFarlane where he mentioned he once had a similar idea to the "Because I'm black." joke with Spidey. IIRC, Spidey breaks up a mugging, the victim uses some racial slur about the muggers, Spidey gets mad and says something like "What makes you think I'm not black?"

I think Peter could incorporate an LLC (i.e. “Spider-Man LLC”) in Delaware without needing to publicly list the LLC’s membership. Sure, the government would know his identity, but likely they already do.

Spidey's declaration, "because I'm Black", I would expect to be a case killer, for Spidey. I mean there've been so many times that Spidey's costume (and body) have been damaged and Spider-Mans skin (colour) exposed, so many times hes grabbed a bite or a drink, and then there are the kisses, often upside-down... such a false claim should've been easily blasted, and I suspect public reaction would've been quick n' nasty. Even if he was "kidding." As always thank you so very much for your video. And you mentioned "trotting out" Spider-man... It's reminds me of something me and my comic loving friends (3 to 4 decades ago,) you to comment on; how whenever Marvel had a new hero, at some point in the first several issues, they'd have to face the Hulk, just to be "humbled."

I’d love to see this adapted into the upcoming She-Hulk TV Series.

Your right. This is so much a spidey story I remembered it a one. As to other court case comics only two come to mind, but I can't tell you which issue. Mary Jane on the jury of a crook whos defense is he was walking along when Spidey swung by, and heard cop sirens. Spidey then webbed him to a wall and stuck a bag of stolen money on him. And the Avengers. Gyrch is calling for legal sanctions against them. When news reports of a stone monster attacking the city interupts. Beast then breaks the leg off the defense table and hands it to Gyrich. Beast says you don't like how we do it? This monster is all yours.

I enjoyed this so much !!! You are brilliant !..

I hope we get the Dazzler/ Klaw murder case soon. I've really been interested in your take on the nuttiness that is dazzler.

Mark Twain has been quoted as saying “We laugh the hardest when we laugh at ourselves”. I think that is what this issue is about. Just a fun fantasy story in a medium that’s primarily fantasy. Not meant to be taken too seriously by fans. Much like the remake of the Green Lantern sells power rings story you reviewed recently. (I still think it would’ve been funnier if GL tried to “unmask” Grodd. That’s not a Gorilla, that’s a man ba-oops....) DC seemed to be enjoying a laugh at their own expense, and invited us along. If you think about it, Spiderman could sue that weasily Parker kid for royalties from his book. Trying the case would be the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham and Howe, the same firm that represents Lois Lane every time she needs a divorce. But then what Super Villan would show up for that? Still, I’d love to see a courtroom battle between Jennifer Walters and Matt Murdock. Or Jason Bard and Jean Lorring. But then nobody would have much fun...

This era of She-Hulk had a delightfully witty young adult novel THE SHE-HULK DIARIES by Marta Acosta. Well worth a look at.

This was actually one of my favourite stories when I was younger, I hope the show on Disney+ is this goofy :)

Spider-jerk, spider-jerk Does it all with a spider-smirk.

The funniest is that Spiderman didn't realize that Peter Parker would be liable too. As the one taking Spiderman's pics he was a witness of his own heroic acts, Peter Parker was aware that Jameson would lie but he kept selling the pics for profit.

I love your hair in this one! So good worth a rewatch!