Spider-Man: the Origin of Ultimate Venom!

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Still coping with high school, his night job, and his alter-ego as Spider-Man, Peter Parker reunities with his childhood friend Eddie Brock and discovers secrets that lie in their fathers' pasts, secrets that lead to the birth of Venom. Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #spiderman
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@comixproviderftw_02 6 лет назад

Never forget the Ultimate Spider-Man video game.

@matiasleon9657 6 лет назад

ComiXProvider FTW_02 i loved that game!

@Red-Rebel 6 лет назад

Ditto.

@thirdplanet4471 6 лет назад

ComiXProvider FTW_02 Best Spider-Man game

@SpiralSine6 6 лет назад

List of things to never forget: The Alamo Reach Aliens Vs. Predators (so that we never repeat the past) Ultimate Spider-Man: the video game Edit: oh and the Fifth of November

@comixproviderftw_02 6 лет назад

Nick Grimes Nice

@priceyyeti4058 6 лет назад

A new episode of Ultimate Spider-Man! You know what that means? Someone's gonna complain about not getting the next volume by next week.

@mylesgaddy8867 6 лет назад

PriceyYeti40 But I need it! *Slinks from behind garbage bin* I need my hit of Ultimate Spider-Man!

@Step43099 6 лет назад

Dude I've been waiting on this since i found their videos lol

@megamonmon 6 лет назад

That's great and all but when is the next back issues on ultimate Spider-Man. It's only been a couple of hours since the last one!

@AREJAYMOP 6 лет назад

Yeah, and it’s gonna be me

@ridge825 6 лет назад

PriceyYeti40 True shit 😂

@ItsMichaelReid 6 лет назад

Love how we have to explain VHS tapes now

@affordablehousing9116 6 лет назад

I feel old

@Tomatobasil-v9y 6 лет назад

ItsMichaelReid I feel like adults act like that a little to much I'm sixteen but I remember having and still a VCR with batman beyond on scarface godfather1-2 Rio grande Monty Python old roasts and many others. I mean I have a giant cardboard box filled with them. Maybe its just my circumstance but it feels like only kids under 12 wouldn't know what they were

@dead0ntime 6 лет назад

I think for kids born after 2005 they won’t remember it

@plain3089 5 лет назад

@@dead0ntime not really. Me, my brother, and most of my friends remember VHS tapes and were born after 2005

@arcadeassassin7176 4 года назад

you really don't. most people still know what a vhs tape is. just because something is obsolete doesn't mean everyone forgets what it is.

@karsten128 6 лет назад

Never realized how much The Spectacular Spider-man cartoon took from the Ultimate Spider-man book for the Eddie brock/Venom story

@davidj.medinag.6524 6 лет назад

Just the part of being childhood friends and their parents together actually, Ultimate Eddie and Spec Eddie are pretty different characthers.

@HQ_Default 5 лет назад

The Venom plotline was at its absolute best in Spectacular.

@MrCeratix 3 года назад

the "No Osbornes in this book!" confetti was a wonderful touch 😅

@Ike_of_pyke 6 лет назад

The ultimate spider-man cartoon was partially based off something that happened in this book series , namely Nick Fury says he wants to train Peter Parker using shield to become one of the greats. In the comic he explicitly says "But only after you hit 18 years old" in the cartoon its if nick didn't really care so he recruited and trained teens anyway.

@n-dingthericefarmer4386 2 года назад

They also used at least one story from the comics for an episode. The one where Logan and Peter switch bodies, though the original culprit from the comic story was Jean Grey, but the show opted to use what is either a z-list villain that no one cares about or someone they made up called Mesmero.

@misterclark2028 2 года назад

@@n-dingthericefarmer4386 Mermero is from the comics

@thatocarinaguy 6 лет назад

Note about the game and its ties to the comic: Silver Sable figures out Spider-Man's identity in the game, but when she later appears in the comic, she doesn't know him. So it doesn't exactly tie in, but it is still worth a play-through if you like Ultimate Spider-Man. Side-note: I always found it strange that the comic covers had him with the white spider symbol even though he didn't get it until much later.

@tjjordan4207 Год назад

I'm willing to bet that it was supposed to be canon at the time of it being made but became its own separate thing as opposed to being part of continuity, which is always bound to happen in comics and anything relating to it.

@jeremyjohnson9053 6 лет назад

"That's what it does, makes a long tongue and big ass fangs." - Ethan

@ItsMichaelReid 6 лет назад

I can't wait until they eventually do a Back issues on Ultimate Spider-Man's Clone Saga because it's so weird

@comixproviderftw_02 6 лет назад

Three things 1. Scarred Kaine Parker 2. Red Hairy Monster Mary Jane 3. Female Peter Clone AKA Jessica Drew

@TevyaSmolka 6 лет назад

its weird but really good

@TevyaSmolka 6 лет назад

i love ultimate jessica drew really underrated character in my opinion

@caitlinbrewer4843 6 лет назад

Nitro Vision still less weird than the 616 universe Clone Saga

@TevyaSmolka 6 лет назад

yup i can agree with that

@zerocray5219 3 года назад

Hey. I’m a Gen Z. But I remember VHS. My parents and grand parents used to use them. I used to watch Spongebob VHS tapes.

@Grievousish 6 лет назад

If I had one kryptonite to studying for exams, it's definitely Back Issues. But Kryptonite shall not beat me this day! To the Watch Later list with you.

@gregsanders61 6 лет назад

I doubt it. NOBODY CAN SAY NO TO BACK ISSUES! MwaHaHaHa!

@JazzDunn1 6 лет назад

I love how they think that the parkers died in the plane crash early on, when in actuality the hulks first appearance killed them, nick got some splaning to do

@josejeronimo4409 6 лет назад

Wait wasn't it explained in the clone saga that those were fake and implanted memories

@JazzDunn1 6 лет назад

I don't think so but I haven't read ultimate spiderman clone saga in a while

@FatSnorlax 6 лет назад

Hey it’s the Ultimate Spider-Man on the Ultimate channel featuring the most ultimate of hosts who make the most ultimate of comments commenting on the most ultimate of comics! It’s amazing! No wait that doesn’t sound right...

@andrewlewis2123 Год назад

Thank you Sal for giving context to 1) the Ultimate Spider-Man game, because I could never figure out if/where it fit into continuity, and 2) the book itself. As a teen reading this, I was really confused by a few of the 2000s Bendis kitchy dialogue lines, and moreso the weird timejump(s) and surreal moments when Pete has the black suit. Did NOT understand why he thought he saw Uncle Ben’s killer, why it jumped from night to day, or what the suit was actually doing to/for Pete and Eddie. And hey, after watching, I’m still not convinced Bendis really knew what was going on, but regardless, it’s a fun chapter full of beautiful art!

@sheevinit1490 6 лет назад

In the Ultimate Universe, May Parker was the sister of Mary Parker, so she is a blood relative of Peter. BUT in 616, Ben is Richard’s Brother. The change was unnecessary in my opinion.

@sheevinit1490 6 лет назад

Nitro Vision I know right.

@gregsanders61 6 лет назад

It probably was Bendis not knowing how they were related so he said "Screw it, this is how it is now."

@sheevinit1490 6 лет назад

Greg Sanders “Oh Bendis! Bendis doesn’t care! ‘Bout standard comics fare! He’s more concerned with Spider-Woman’s haaaairrr!”

@thahotkidd 6 лет назад

You're right but Ben was also still Richards brother so the idea was that Peter would be blood related to both of them and not just ben

@sheevinit1490 6 лет назад

thahotkidd Oh yeeeaah

@gilmerrobles548 6 лет назад

7:28 "Yay, No Osborn bangers or conspiracies"

@johnnyfive222 6 лет назад

And the Clone Saga is actually pretty damn good in this series.

@Evyscreations 6 лет назад

Matthew Kent I'm really looking forward to that arc.

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 6 лет назад

1:04:43 Ben saying that makes me think that when Peter goes to pick up a Volkswagen Beetle in the game, that's how we're introduced to the Ultimate George and his nagging wife.

@lefthand9672 6 лет назад

Just Some Guy with a Mustache what are you??

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 6 лет назад

Me? *turns around slowly* I'm just some guy with a mustache.

@dentonfilms8446 6 лет назад

I would love to see a joke where Ben clicks the link above his head and disappears for a couple seconds

@blacksawm1023 6 лет назад

Got the notification for this at the gym... I started watching having already biked 6 miles but I didn't stop until the video was over. This distracted me for 14 more miles lol. Love you guys

@jxshsears7913 6 лет назад

"That's what it does; just makes a big long tongue and long ass fangs." -Ethan

@tinysalad3357 6 лет назад

These Ultimate videos bring me so much nostalgia. When as a kid I was buying Ultimate Venom arc as an ongoing it was the hypest shit ever. Still this and Ultimate Clone Saga are my favorite stories from this run.

@redx-man8813 6 лет назад

Oh my god I just noticed you guys have my "Superman The Animated Series" toys I sent you in the background!!!!!! thank you and it looks so cool!!!!

@shiningnight12 6 лет назад

Ultimate venom is really cool cause it's like a fusion of anti-venom and venom. Its meant to be the cure for cancer which is what Eddie was dying of in the 616 and then he becomes venom. Fast forward to him becoming anti-venom and he now can cure anyone of any disease including himself....right before spider-verse happened lol. Note: I know anti-venom came out after this volume but it's still cool to see the seeds of what would become anti-venom in the 616.

@mikesetzer9379 Год назад

The Ultimate Spider-Man episodes are my favorite! I wasn’t even a Spider-Man fan until these. Best RU-vid channel.

@julianmitchell2186 3 года назад

Watching these more than anything has made me want to breakout, old "Back Issues" and reread all this again.

@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 6 лет назад

I really liked the art style of Peter's PTSD nightmares. Looked so plastic and CG-like...

@priceyyeti4058 6 лет назад

This was actually my first ever comic book. It still feels good to go back and read it every once and a while. That being said, didn't Ultimate Origin show Peter's parents were dead when he was a baby? Did Bendis not care for HIS OWN CONTINUITY?

@Chenso2099 6 лет назад

I think they were just unconscious and in the hospital. I’m not sure, don’t remember.

@priceyyeti4058 6 лет назад

Kevin Rivera I'm just going off what ComicsExplained said.

@Chenso2099 6 лет назад

PriceyYeti40 Well, I cant blame you. Bendis is Bendis. He likes to have lots of freeway with continuity. Just do a bit of research, that’s all.

@priceyyeti4058 6 лет назад

Kevin Rivera After doing your recommendation, I only found that they were severely injured, so I retract my earlier statement. Now I'm thinking how lucky they were to survive an encounter with the Hulk.

@Chenso2099 6 лет назад

PriceyYeti40 Yeah, true lol. Don’t know if you know this, but it was thanks to baby Peter that Hulk was able to stop it’s rampage. Found that pretty cool.

@NewPhoneWhoThis52 6 лет назад

Finally a Good Spider-Man story no clones !!

@NewPhoneWhoThis52 6 лет назад

Nitro Vision for now i enjoy

@Mr-Green0 5 лет назад

And that it made a Spider-Man game based on it.

@jarred1k579 4 года назад

True but they end up showing up The series tho 🤣

@FlameOfUdun96 6 лет назад

“It’s been 84 years...”

@NilFox 6 лет назад

You guys should do ComicPop Plays as a lets play channel. I know Tif did it a couple times but those were one off's, I'd love to see you guys do an episodic format where you play through the whole game. You three have good chemistry and I think that'd it'd work well as a Let's Play.

@Yungtacosss 6 лет назад

The Ultimate Spider-Man game was amazing!!! I had the special edition for PS2

@loki_l_1380 6 лет назад

Im proud that I've just turned 18 not that long ago and I remember using VHS tapes when I was younger.

@BrowncoatAllywang 6 лет назад

"Just throw all your problems into a smoke stack." - Peter Parker

@MeltMoonBeams 6 лет назад

In canon, ultimate spider-man's spider sense is waaaaaaay weaker than 616 spidey's. In ultimate, the spider sense barely warns peter of coming danger and is shown to be quite fallible. Regardless, great episode!

@walterHonwana 6 лет назад

Arham Hossain Everything is weaker in the Ultimate universe, professor X, wolverine's healing factor, Thor, Hulk, Dr. Strange, etc

@Darkon2050 6 лет назад

“Our fathers died to create me...and now...you will tooooo.”-Venom from Ultimate Spider-Man video game

@jessegonzalez6982 5 лет назад

Hey Sal I’m pretty sure the web formula that Peter develops was his dad’s basis for the Venom suit in the ultimate comics. In the first couple of issues Harry asked Peter what the formula on the chalk board was and pretty sure he says that it was a formula that his dad was working on for a long time. Peter believes it was for an adhesive but if you connect the dots everything Richard Parker was working towards was the suit

@gilmerrobles548 6 лет назад

The Confused Phycisit, The Hardcore Awesome, The Artistic Sorceror, and The Perfect Fatherly Politician, These are POPulation's greatest Heroes

@conradlecroy5821 6 лет назад

35:32 They’re never gonna get over the fact that Venom ate a skrull

@gar55rocks1 6 лет назад

I’m in love with this Ultimate Spider-Man storyline can’t wait for the next one! Awesome video as always guys

@DomovoiJr 6 лет назад

I love you all at ComicPop, and I want you to know that I love the Ultimate Spider-Man series with an actual burning passion. Thank you for still going with it.

@timcrone9577 6 лет назад

It's so funny watching you explain ancient technology like VHS, when I come from the generation that grew up knowing what VHS and a VCR is. My, how things have changed.

@ItsMattYoung 6 лет назад

I've gotta salute Sal (and his shorts) for the Budnick reference.

@jok86er 6 лет назад

Ultimate Spiderman is back. Cool

@SHADOWCONVOY62 6 лет назад

The moment Sal mentioned the green goblin chase missions I was having war flashbacks

@allendrake6960 4 года назад

*BURRRRRRN! ... BURRRRRN!* *_MOAR FIIIIIIRE!_* *GYEEHAHAHAA!*

@joshbaino3087 6 лет назад

You guys gotta do the entire series

@springsaber Месяц назад

That absolute Spider-Man joke aged like wine

@tyratooOP 3 года назад

To me I also feel they could have kept the alien/space element of the symbiote/Venom by maybe saying that their dads discovered a meteor that had these strange organisms/bacteria that mixed and acted strangely towards other microorganisms on earth and so the 2 tested on these organisms over and over again eventually mixing them with other compounds and elements eventually creating this black goop that essentially was alive and could seriously help people. But after doing what they do in the comic, they learn that through their prodding and testing, they essentially evolved the organisms far beyond what they were before into this symbiotic creature that eventually becomes this giant monster.

@TheGotenza 6 лет назад

Man Venom has a track record in the ultimate universe of discouraging people to be Spider-Man

@dead0ntime 6 лет назад

oh fuck yes, Ultimate Spider-Man! Love it when you do back issues on this series

@oatmat 6 лет назад

Sal I love when you do anything from the Ultimate Universe(This was the best "Ultimate Marvel" Back Issues yet!!), please do more Spidey, Ultimates and hopefully one day you could get into X-Men and Fantastic Four

@r.babylon2885 6 лет назад

Please have Ben read the Berserk manga so he can lead a Back Issues.

@feliperisseto9113 Год назад

I really like the possible mechanics of the suit, despite that they never explained to deep. Ironically, the symbiote actually does exactly what It is supposed to do: It consumes living cells and substitute them for Itself. It actually does better: It can make you super-human. The problem is that It is taking It to far. Because of a basic level of sentience and a insatiable hunger, instead of only devouring sick cells It ends up devouring It's host completely. The only reason Eddie doesn't die It's because he starts to eat other people to satiate the creature.

@63haha96 6 лет назад

Ultimate Spiderman the game got me into comics. When I got it the game came with an issue of the comic.

@TevyaSmolka 6 лет назад

Yay ultimate Spider-Man back issues I love it

@TevyaSmolka 6 лет назад

lol :)

@sheevinit1490 6 лет назад

New Ultimate Spider-Man Back Issues. But you can’t satisfy us, we still need Future’s End.

@SpiralSine6 6 лет назад

It’s confirmed to not happen, I’m sorry my dude.

@sheevinit1490 6 лет назад

Nick Grimes Yeah, I know, but people keep mentioning it and if you keep mentioning something...

@brandonprieto7539 6 лет назад

I was having a bad day until I saw this

@ToonGal12 6 лет назад

I just about had a heart attack when that confetti popped out at the 7:30 mark. XD Also, I don't care what Sal says---Ethan is OUR super scientist. :)

@macka9 6 лет назад

Well looks like im getting nothing done at work for the next hour

@kylelundy802 6 лет назад

Back issues really helps these rough days. Love you guys!

@kiko1935 3 года назад

Man I have really been enjoying these videos, you guys have the best chemistry, thanks doods

@Pugslee2000 4 года назад

Sal, you gotta add this to the ultimate Spider-Man playlist

@jonathanshaw9704 6 лет назад

WE’RE BACK BABY!!!!!

@Ike_of_pyke 6 лет назад

Jonathan Shaw see you in the next volume

@dn22pkkdd476 10 месяцев назад

Fun thing for anyone liked who this interpretation of Ultimate Venom. With The horror of the symbiote being this ungodly nightmare fuel being focused on. There is more of it out there. Just not in the pages of Ultimate Spider-Man. Somewhere in the Spider-Man 3 hype, Marvel commissioned Bendis and Bagley to do a tie-in comic for the movie. They set their story, right after the symbiote falls on Eddie in the church. The story is from the perspective of Eddie Brock, having to deal with this goopy, cold, abomination merging with him. god damn, does it expand on his inner monolog and it reads like a horror comic. It's worth checking out, even if you disliked the movie.

@joshuanelson6795 6 лет назад

This is probably my favorite ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN story arc.

@TheTheDontae 6 лет назад

In today episode Sal shows his age. He and the gang explains what’s a VHS

@FifthHorseman23 6 лет назад

I don't know if it's real, but Sal looks so freaking happy in that thumbnail that it warms my heart.

@cartoontyphoon5047 6 лет назад

How do you guys find better and better outro music every time?! I'm digging this new one.

@NellHypothesis 6 лет назад

Man I loved that Ultimate Spider-Man game as a kid

@Bx_Zo 6 лет назад

YESSS Ive been waiting for this lmaoo

@Ambitious419 5 лет назад

I wish that for the Venom movie they did the Ultimate Venom route with the Goo and did a hard R rating or Alien symbiote hard R but the movie that we got isn’t bad and I really love Venom (2018) it was awesome You can also Play Ultimate Spider-Man on the PS2

@Ambitious419 5 лет назад

Robert Kenny that’s true it was dumb to make Harry venom and it’s sad that Insomniacs Spider-Man games sequel that Harry is going to be Venom

@BurnedChiliMan 6 лет назад

I am addicted to Back Issues, it’s like a drug I can’t quit!

@danielavvollanum1917 3 года назад

"It would cure you from being shot"..... Super Science!

@hectordubon3487 6 лет назад

One of my favorite volumes ever!!!

@angel7661 6 лет назад

I thought the ultimate spiderman game was no longer canon cause bendis rewrote the story in comics.

@shieldssmith1943 6 лет назад

MORE of Ultimate Spiderman

@dn22pkkdd476 10 месяцев назад

37:05 making his way downtown, In a suit, He's such a brute, Now he's gravebound 🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹

@phyco9635 6 лет назад

The fact that you had to explain what a VHS is kinda...wow.

@davidmoore1127 6 лет назад

This series is the best. More ultimate Spider-Man

@gurgenthewise2308 Год назад

The game was actually adapted into the comics in volume 21, it’s a little different, but overall it’s the same story

@BigRedBird 7 месяцев назад

Personally I think the game did it better

@timhaakana5188 6 лет назад

I've never gotten a chance to read Ultimate Spider-Man but man it's amazing so far. I really need to pick it up!

@loki_l_1380 6 лет назад

I love ultimate spiderman, and this story arc was good but I'm honestly not a fan of the "human made" symbiote. I much prefer the alien origin.

@jonfrombuckland_3784 6 лет назад

Yess! I love Ultimate Spider-Man!

@nicksmyth4050 Год назад

I love that Uncle Ben has a Bob Dylan quote in his gravestone

@dakenscholz3585 6 лет назад

Always the chilliest outro music.

@HamzaBoujelouah 6 лет назад

Oh yes! Best birthday present yet!!!

@mavibaso 6 лет назад

7:52 i see what you did there..

@TheBronySpidermanFan 6 лет назад

I’ve been anticipating this video for so long! Thanks guys, you exceeded my expectations

@priceyyeti4058 4 года назад

2 years later and I've read Peer Gynt and The Wild Duck. Thank you, Sal, for validating my feelings that Ibsen is boring.

@Benm701 6 лет назад

HAPPY 80TH BIRTHDAY CLA.... Oh wait.

@alexcalderon3250 3 года назад

it’s the confetti for me 😂 🎉

@BigRedBird 3 года назад

Ultimate spiderman is also on xbox. You can play it on the 360 if you have an xbox 360 harddrive. It's an amazing game and is highly underrated

@IamKel-gf2ty 9 месяцев назад

They kinda integrated parts of this story into the spectacular Spider-Man tv show

@RedTailedSmeargle 6 лет назад

There's a PC version of that Ultimate Spiderman game (and a PS2 version). It really is a really good game to play, if you ever wanna dabble into it.

@flywheelshyster 6 лет назад

the THEY LIVE line! Another reason why I love this fuckin' show. and ben's mel brooks' movie quoting ability, goes without saying

@allendrake6960 5 лет назад

I'd like to think "Random Guy" was secretly a customer of The Tinkerer or some such, since he's a logical sort of explanation of how/where tech imitating Spider-man could've come from, plus he makes a few appearances later in the series, specifically leading up to the Death of Spider-man.

@JoshMunroe 4 года назад

43:55 We got smokestacks for clones! Smokestacks for genetic suits! Got a problem? Get a smokestack!

@tjjordan4207 Год назад

This volume in the series does reveal a problem I have with Bendis' writing. I love that he is more about padding out characters and scenes in order to make them more impactful and meaningful, but the guy isn't great at offering payoffs to what he sets up. In this volume, he sets up Eddie Broke and Venom. After that, nothing much else is done with the two characters. Same with Carnage, it's set up and then it's pretty much done for right away.

@NoBody-lj5xh 11 месяцев назад

I mean, they were payed off. The ending of this book is one of the most emotional in the series and the ending of Carnage's story is one of the most realistically depressing comic book endings I've ever read.

@tjjordan4207 11 месяцев назад

@@NoBody-lj5xh I get what you are saying, and while I agree to an extent, I still see a good number of it as lazy writing from Bendis. The dark and depressing stuff works well in certain parts, where the payoff is literally that there is no fulfillment or happy end. The end of the Venom arc for Peter is great and I like that there is no clear answer for Peter. That right there is a good payoff. Even for Eddie and Venom there is a good payoff in not knowing if he is still alive or not, which adds to the paranoia for Peter. But here is the issue, Bendis set up for a potential rewatch between Eddie/Vemon and Peter, and he literally did nothing with it. And it makes no sense that Eddie wouldn't come after Peter again, due to vengeance and hatred being part of his thing. I wouldn't mind if Eddie never appeared again and it's left to assume that maybe he is dead, putting us in Peter's shoes since not even he knows for sure. Because the appearance we get of him later is rather very forgettable and unnecessary.

@NoBody-lj5xh 11 месяцев назад

@@tjjordan4207 There's also the fact that Peter died like a month after this. And Venom did return as a villain for Miles right? I was under the impression that he ate his mom or some shit?

@bigmarquis5957 6 лет назад

YO dat beat at da end wuz MAD FAT fambo!

@tomtudorweaver1078 2 года назад

Whilst I haven't read a lot of Ultimate Spider-Man passed this point (so I don't know if they do the whole Symbiote weakness being sound) I think it maybe would've been clever if they established that when Spider-Man has the suit and fights the Shocker. I know he doesn't use sound waves, but his gauntlet weapons are pretty close to that (heck they could just be really loud), plus since we saw the suit was able to take a bullet earlier it would be surprising that the Shocker, the complete joke of a villain within this story ironically is the only one who managed to hurt Spider-Man when he had an even stronger suit.