This really is testament to how amazingly designed Lego is. I wonder but I can't help but think that you were likely getting quite close to the physical limits of the material in those last few tests
he definitely is. In one of the tests, when he stops it the gear spins the other way a little. That's from the axles twisting up under load, so when the load is removed they act like a spring and spin the gear the other direction
Im really impressed as well, but one of the problems i see. The tesla turbine was far too efficient because no material would hold together at Such high speeds. So i Wonder if he Will be able to break the sound barrier. Pls letme know what you guys think
At these speeds, balance is quite important. I would recommend using a silver/black sharpie instead of reflective tape to get rpm measurements. Also, that tachometer you are using will give inaccurate results if it's not held steady. Try attaching it to a stable platform instead of holding it in your hand.
@@rigdigwus Let's say the tape has a mass of 0.1g and has a center of gravity 1mm away from the rotation axis (since it's wrapped around the outside of the tube instead of being a point mass). 100,000 rpm converts to 10472 rad/s so the centripetal force on that piece of tape is (10472 rad/s)^2 * 0.0001 kg * 0.001 m = 10.97 N or 2.47 lbf. Assuming the rod it's spinning on is perfectly balanced, that means this piece of tape is constantly pulling that rod to one side with ~2.5 pounds of force at the tip. That's quite a lot of additional friction to overcome at the bearing interface, not to mention vibration.
Interesting tidbit… the fastest spinning object made by man is/was a tiny ball of silicon dioxide. Scientists got it spinning to 300 BILLION times per SECOND. Crazy.
At a guess a lot less than 1 HP lol. Whilst these motors offer great torque as they’re geared down once you add some gearing like here you realise just how weak they are! I guess it’s due to the power supply more than the actual motors themselves though! :)
Assuming you have a disk with a diameter of 10 cm, you would have to reach about 65000 RPM to break the speed of sound, that would be incredibly awesome.... Amazing video by the way, as always.
Hey there cheers! I really hope to achieve this! Unfortunately I don’t think the thing spinning can be Lego unless I use a Lego sticker lol :) I think it will have to be something ridiculously light! I’ll add some more motors and definitely try!
@@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines Yes, for the spinning thing I would also use something that is not lego, except maybe the lego stickers, that could also be a good idea. It is also important to use as few gears as possible to reduce friction, maybe arrange the motors differently, like the motors in the 1:1 Bugatti Chiron.
I had to use all those gears unfortunately! If I didn’t have 8 yellow input shafts the axles at the bottom would completely twist and break when using the 1:625 ratio. I filmed the assembly after the test and there still is a bit of twisting on those yellow axles(I’m not sure if you can see it on the video but one was bad) The amount of force/torque to move the 625 ratio overwhelms the axles! I’ve seen the Chiron build and I can only think it’s because they’re the PF L motors which have a lot less torque but spin faster. Also most of the gears are in play when the torque is extremely high so friction has little effect especially with the oil etc . However I realised the last 2 sets of gears at the top I could just use a single cog instead of doubling up as that would reduce friction there quite a bit :)
Man, this is some of the best Lego content out there. Always love it when a new Extreme Brick Machine video pops up. I wouldn't have thought it possible to get those kind of RPM, but if anyone was going to show it's possible, it would be you. Thanks for sharing Gaz 👍
The fact that it can go this fast, with what appears to be only official Lego pieces(unless you are using BuzzWiz motors) is incredible. If you want to go even further, you could mirror this and connect it to the other side. However, if you want to achieve speeds higher than this, you might need heat treated axles or metal axles.
mirroring would result in 2x the torque not 2x the speed. unless the motor torque is insufficient for achieving the required torque that the system needs to achieve the speed limit in which case mirroring would result in sufficient torque for every motor to spin at their maximum speed
@@joachimtheboss5326 The poor motors are seriously struggling for enough torque according to GazR, and the theoretical versus real RPM backs that up. Meanwhile everything else is struggling with too much torque lol. Damn cool just how ridiculously over the top the guy has gotten these things to perform.
I absolutely LOVE gear ratio and high rpm videos, especially with lego, just seeing how far the limits can be pushed. I wish there was a world record leaderboard for this kind of thing, "fastest rpm with lego" to promote competition and push the limit as high as possible. Edit: I'm so excited for trying to break the speed of sound with lego too!! That's such a cool idea
Hey there thank you so much I love doing this stuff too :) some competition would be great as well but I feel bad using all these motors if others haven’t got them! The speed of sound challenge maybe a step too far but I can’t wait to try!
I think a competition like that would eventually boil down to who has the best lube and most motors. but i guess you could do motor divs and focus on gear arrangements
That sounded like a dentist's drill towards the end. Not surprising, given those tend to spin at ludicrous speeds as well (seeming speeds in the 180K RPM range). While each mechanism does have a distinct sound due to its own setup, it does seem like speed overrides that past a point. Interesting.
Im more interested in taping an ant to the outer rim, getting it to go super sonic speeds then releasing it back into its colony if it survives lol, it would find walking at normal speed depressing and probably let off some kind of unique pheromone that would disrupt the entire colony, would be an interesting experiment
106,945 RPM’s is 1,782 Revolution per SECOND!!! That means on a standard 24 frames a second frame rate that gear makes almost 75 revolutions in between frames. 🤯🤯
I feel like having it built as a tower, all the wheels are pressing with their entire weight on the parts bellow them, resulting in high friction. Can you turn it horizontal? And use a high speed grease.
Hi, Everything free spun so smoothly and when you spun it fast the device actually lifts up due to the forces at play which takes any load off those bottom cogs. I totally understand where you’re coming from though but in person you would see :) you actually have to pin it down like I did with those two outer beams to stop it floating up! It’s weird lol I’ve done other tests with these devices sideways and the big problems is there’s more load on the axles going downwards into the beens which then creates serious friction welding! Check my other rpm test to see. I used silicone lub, also WD40 and 5w 30 engine oil which gave the best protection 😀
@@x3onz true, but you could continuously angle the propellers as they keep going faster. 100k RPM IS a bit much, but with a big enough prop, we can translate the kinetic energy along the blades as they counteract air resistance. The larger the rotor, the more momentum too, so we could see it fly upwards for a while.
I think the principle could be adapted to great effect. There nay sayers are just hung up on traditional propellers. A disk similar to a frisbee could be enhanced with some propeller like properties that could be tuned due high rpm. Or maybe something that employed less traditional flight mechanics like the coanda effect…
Hey Easton thank you as always! I enjoyed this one and I’m so glad people are watching a big portion of the video too! It still surprises me! But you had faith from the start lol :)
@@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines I knew you were going to blow up, I mean you had 1 thousand subs when I started watching your vids, and they where all amazing and so well done, I knew it was going to explode, and it definitely did, and will continue on, great job!
Thanks again :) I do like the way it’s progressively building up! Sometimes a viral video can do channels more harm than good weirdly. I’ve learnt recently it can be a bad thing having a lot of subscribers if only a small percentage watch regularly as they lower your click rate making it hard for any video to do well! When you originally said 100,000 subs I never believed it was possible in my wildest dreams so thank you :)
Wow those gears turned into a rocket there for a second! Thank goodness you where using lubricant otherwise I’d ont think the lego would’ve survived Can’t wait for the speed of sound project! Keep it up!😎👍👌
Haha imagine that! I am planning a 40 motor Truck soon! :) I think I’ve removed most now! I don’t get how normal comments can get spammed by RU-vid but not these!
Is it just me or does anyone also love the sound of the motors struggling? It sounds like some kind of an ICE in a train I don’t know where I got that comparison but it just sounds like it...
😀 I actually took some care this time! Eye protection etc! It was quite intimidating especially that old white wheel! The sound was deafening but it didn’t fully come across on the video :)
1:09 The nearest and the farthest gears do nothing as they are not connected "upstream". 6:19 Reaching the speed of sound at 102,465 rpm = 1700 rps it will take a disk with circumference of about 20 cm i.e. diameter of 6 cm. You might have already achieved that.
I believe the reason the hub dropped down on the Axle at max rpm was the centrifugal force was so great it caused the ID of the hub to expand outward losing grip on the Axle
All you would need is to add something with a radius of 4cm and the tips would be above Mach 1. For comparison the fan of a turbofan jet engine spins around 2000-3000rpm, even the turbopumps on the RL-10 rocket engine only spin at 40000rpm (it is expander cycle though so low mass flow means low speed pumps). Nonetheless. This is fast
The fastest RPM is 600 million and that is just mind blowing. 2013, scientists at the University of St. Andrews made headlines by propelling a tiny sphere to a record-breaking 600 million rpm (revolutions per minute). This new object out-spins that by a factor of 100.Sep 10, 2018
I think you may have won the Lego rpm war with this one Gaz. That was brilliant, dangerous, ground and Lego breaking all at the same time. Glad you had gloves on, and glad you made the video & uploaded so we can all see how much mad engineering went into it. Did you film then reverse it? 👍🍺🇬🇧.
I never thought of that Carl, I rebuilt it again lol. And cheers appreciate it! My only wish was the sound of the big white rim would have come across in the video! It was deafening! But it came across as the quietest!😀🍺
@@GazRsExtremeBrickMachines it was a sound I understood from my brushless kit. It's a sound that says power. How did the "bearing" surfaces stand up to the torque at the motor end, and the power at the top end? Yeah build something and then dismantle on film and everyone thinks You're even more of a genius builder! I need a beer, have been hooning and it's errrr, hard work! I saw a rev machine that Colin Furze did, that launches a tyre. I bet if you did they with Lego it would fire it miles 👍🍺🇬🇧
I’ll check that out Carl I did try the tyre launch but struggling to make a video of it. It was pretty crazy, it hit the wall and literally climbed up it! Then back down and half way up again with rubber left on the wall! Everything was in perfect order other than the last axle(every run damaged at 1:625) and I damaged the two beams holding it in place. Btw hooning? New to me! The more I do on RU-vid the more beers I need 🍺🍺😀
its funny how you can see the lego sawblades teeth bend down because of the centrifugal force. it really shows how fast this thing is going considering that’s a relatively thick piece of plastic
People asking Lego why they pour so much effort into quality control for a toy and Lego just points at this video. At least he realized the saw blade was a bad idea.
if GazR uses the lego technic rod connector at the top of the build to measure the rpms (like what he did in this video) to break the sound barrier, he would have to reach 770.00 MPH to do so. Using a RPM/MPH Calculation, he would have to hit an exact 647060 rpm to reach 770.00 MPH, given that the technic rod connector is an estimated 0.4 inches in diameter. Its possible. Just more gears.
At that RPM, I would be conducting the experiment behind a shield, safety glass, or at least safety goggles of some sort. The forces trying to rip the gears apart at that rotational speed are very large. A small flaw in the gear could cause it to literally explode.
1782 revolutions per second. That's fast. If the wheels on your car were spinning at this rate, you would be traveling at 10,497 mph. I referenced a tire with a standard height of 33 inches.
I would have thought the spinning force would have split the gear apart, but it held up. I remember splitting oranges by spinning them as a kid. All that juice moves to the outside and boom, it splatters everywhere. lol. Not a lot, but still had to clean up.
I do sometimes query why I seem to waste so much time pursuing trivia of late. The someone comes along and roundly clears my conscience completely thus removing all self-doubt...
