Agreed! It works pretty well for us. When the wood is finished, we move it inside out of the elements. Always appreciate your comments and you watching!
That’s an awesome splitter. It has one serious flaw, that awful screeching noise. I know you modified it to help minimize that, but for a piece of equipment like that the noise level is ridiculous. But I do think that’s one of the best splitters available right now. Nice content too.
Appreciate the kind words. Agreed, the screeching is pretty hard to deal with. I had it licked for a while, and it's only just recently returned. Will delve into finding the solution in an upcoming video. Thanks so much for watching!
Damn 20 mins for that much wood wowsers! If I didn't live in Savannah GA where we dont need firewood for anything short of cooking some pork I would invest in something like this.
20 mins for a 1/3 cord is great for 1 person operation, I have ruggedmade 737 and it's about 30 mins for 1/3 cord by myself, But when my coworker decides to help we can do 16 minute face cords. Awesome that a stacker is included, that's truly a time saver for sure Imagine how fast if you had a buddy loading rounds, and helping with the 1st off splits, , and another babysitting the bag, you guys would do2 cord an hr I bet
I like the way you think! Have a video planned in my head with 3 people, set up just the way you mentioned. Getting the help lined up seems to be the hard part these days. Really appreciate you watching!
Not too shabby! I like that you were looking for a real world time. Should help you calculate exactly what goes into producing a bag of wood. Hope you're ready for this cold spell. It has been so mild this year so far I haven't even fired the wood furnace. That is going to happen tomorrow morning for sure.
Not looking forward to the big freeze that’s coming. Always wreaks havoc on equipment. Hopefully short lived. But in the mean time, it’s been great for firewood business. Always appreciate you watching!
@@FoxfireProjects Actually, getting coal in your stocking for Christmas was not always a bad thing. In the 19th century, poor families considered it a blessing to find coal in their stockings - they could now heat their homes when they otherwise couldn't afford it. Weird, huh? Great video - what a cool machine. That must be such a back saver! How much does a rig like that cost, if I may ask? Is this for personal use, or do you sell firewood? (Sorry for the ?s - just stumbled upon your channel)
Another thing everyone needs to consider is the amount your gunna do in an hour will depend on how big you split the wood. If your splitting your firewood for mainley wood stoves for people who like bigger pieces you could probably do closer to 4 an hour and boiler wood I would guess 5-6. Half as many split cycles will largely increase volume producing
Exactly! This was a pretty normal “firewood” size split for us (4-5” or so). This machine usually sees a lot of pizza oven firewood (2” or so) and takes quite a bit more time for a face cord of that size wood. Could run through boiler wood super fast! Thanks so much for watching!
Exploring the Split Force 13/20T's capability in splitting a face cord of firewood showcases the machine's impressive speed and efficiency, setting a new standard in firewood processing.
This might be old news to you, but to save more time, you dont need to go the entire length of the log., just a few inches into the round, then back up to split another. By the time the partially split round gets knocked around enough in your conveyor, it will finish splitting itself. It all adds up to time/cost/fuel as you know. Also, for safety, we practice trying to handle the rounds without using our fingertips on the round. That way if your fingers ever contacted the wedge, you can have some time to pull your hand out before the fingers get chopped off. I say this as a man who has processed thousands of cords of orchard wood using conventional hydraulic splitters. Be safe
Appreciate the kind words. The wood I’m splitting in this video is White Oak. Terribly stringy all the way through. Wedge to the bottom is the only way. Just doesn’t pop like Ash or Maple, even when below freezing. Couldn’t agree more about keeping fingers out of harms way. Old habits die hard. Thanks for watching!
@@FoxfireProjects No worries, brother...That is a nice setup and "the fingertip rule" especially applies to a multifunctional splitter that distracts the initial task at hand, as you can relate. Have a good one!
Both the machine and your use of it are impressive. I was expecting this video to show a lot of oversized pieces taking up a lot of air volume, but was pleasantly surprised to see that all this wood is perfect for the wood stove.
Appreciate the kind words. We try to set ourselves apart with quality. Typically when filling these bags, we will stop for a moment at around 1/2 full and then again at 3/4, to shuffle any splits around in the bag that have made a pocket. Makes for a better standing, and fuller bag, assuring the customer gets what they're paying for. Thanks so much for watching!
Nate, that looks like a very generous face cord. I think wood sellers around here (MA) would call that a half cord! Very cool setup with that bag, looks like it has some advantages over IBC totes. Are they reusable?
Appreciate the kind words. We always make sure the customer is getting the amount advertised, or more. They are reusable, we've got several bags floating around the yard that have made over a dozen trips and still going strong. Thanks so much for watching!
@@FoxfireProjects it was a custom built splitter for commercial use in remote areas. built onto an old gooseneck trailer for mobility. wish i had some footage of it running
Excellent video. I’ve been fascinated by the foot pedal operation for the hydraulic cylinder. Is there any chance you could do a video that shows how they all works? My custom built splitter uses a normal autocycle valve and 90% of the time it doesn’t need to use the full stroke. I’d love to see how the foot pedal setup works.
Must be really quick with maple or anything other than stringy oak where you keep having to do the full cycle instead of just a little bump. I wonder if a wedge with a more aggressive shoulder would bust up that quercus a little sooner.
As well a person could weld a bracket and pushrod to actuate the ram with a belt high/hip pad if enough travel could be achieved. Thus humping the wood to pieces and save on calf leg strain. Prob easier on lower back
They sure do look like nifty bits of kit. I don't like the foot control - some people that just don't take enough notice of where their hands are! Very cool being able to take the machine to the wood so easily though
Still waiting to find out what a face cord is ! As a business here in tx you can only sell cords and half cords , some people sell ricks which is a 1/4 , but what is a face cord .
A face cord is a third of a full cord. 16” splits, 4’ tall by 8’ wide if racked. A rick, is another name for a face cord, and is not quarter of a cord, but a third. Thanks for watching!
It could easily be made more efficient: add 4 or 5 finger blades to the conveyor belt side of the main blade, add wall to hinder wood from dropping down to the place you were standing when operating, make blade movement continuous, and concentrate to fill new logs to be splitted. Maybe need a pusher arm to push logs certain amount forward when the blade is in upper position.
Appreciate the kind words. I am in the states, North Carolina, on the east coast. Split Force is the brand. It's a great machine, and suits my needs perfectly. Thanks so much for watching!
DO you find that the work table height needs to be a little higher? How tall are you and how tall is it? I'm looking to convert a splitter to a table top and table height is something i'm not sure of yet. Thank you
It could stand to be a few inches higher ideally. After many solid hours of splitting, my lower back is pretty tight. If I was building from scratch like you, I would definitely put it where it was most comfortable. I'm away from the wood lot for a few days for Christmas, but can get you exact measurements when I return. Appreciate you watching!
I always was taught a face cord is a stack pile of perfectly placed wood side by side in the dimensions being4 ft x 4 ft x 8 ft. By the wood being randomly dropped in a bag there is a lot of empty voided space that is left. Probably about 3/4 of a cord in reality. Always be careful when buying fire wood by the term cord, face cord, half cord and even pick up truck bed load always ask if wood in a truck is stacked or just thrown in. A long bed truck has a hard time even loading a hole cord due to the height. Most of the time a long bed will only get a little over 3/4 of a cord and a short bed is around half a cord and that is only if it’s stacked if just thrown in a long bed is a little over half a cord..always check multiple sellers in your area to confirm the amount and cost of wood before you buy. Also they will always say it’s seasoned already, take a moister meter with you and test the wood before you part with you money. A lot of sellers will let tree sit on ground for a month or 2 then split it and the wood will hardly even burn due to moisture level..
4' X 4' X 8' is a full cord not a face cord. A face cord is 1/3 of a full cord, 16" pieces stacked 4' X 8'. The bags are designed to hold a face cord loosely. Have stacked many of them to prove this is correct. Check out some of my other videos. Thanks for watching.
Great vid! I like the bag holder you made. Do you happen to have drawings for it? I've been using a forklift to hold the bags, but this would be much easier.
Appreciate your kind words. Don’t have any drawings for it. Glad to get you a few measurements though. Anything you’re looking for specifically? Thanks for watching!
Yes conveyor speed can be adjusted. Was set on 3 in this video, goes up to 10. I believe you can get a 4 way, but the manufacturer doesn’t recommend. Appreciate you watching!
The splitting end of the cylinder is not supported as it is with a normal horizontal splitter. It is less able to withstand sideways stresses. Am I right or wrong?
@@jakebredthauer5100 Correct. A 4 way wedge could put more side to side stress on the cylinder, causing issues. We tried 4 way wedges on the Powersplit and ended up removing them. Wasn’t a real time saver and the ability to precisely split suffered. Thanks for watching!
@@FoxfireProjects Have you noticed any problem drying that square wood your splitter produces compared to the triangular wood that other people's splitters produce? I am thinking it may possibly stack itself together too tightly or maybe it it is loose enough to get enough air.
Hello. This may be a silly question, but I would like to clarify it for myself. What are you wearing over your pants, what is this "cape"? What is the correct name for it? P.s. Excuse my English.
Not a silly question at all. These are chainsaw chaps, that protect from cuts when operating a chainsaw. I had cut the wood into rounds just before filming, and since it was a cold day, I kept them on while splitting. Thanks so much for watching!
Paid right around $19k USD for mine. That was back before the pandemic and supply chain/shipping issues. I'm sure like everything else, it's gone up now. Thanks so much for watching!
Do you wish splitter table was a little higher. You seem hunched over a little. How tall are you. I love the concept but looks like it was built for shorter folks. Foot petal travel seems excessive. I tried an eastonmade axis foot petal only needed to move maybe 2 inches.
The table could stand to be a few inches higher. I’m 6’, and after several hours I do feel it in my lower back. Had I known this when I ordered, I’m sure the manufacturer could’ve built to my specs. The foot pedal travel is all adjustable, I actually prefer the step on step off method. When some of the other guys run it, they prefer the stationary heel. Appreciate you watching!
I spoke with split force they wouldn't build it with a higher table. Also seem like foot petal is a little too far under the table. If you ran it up on blocks could foot petal be adjusted down? Interesting you like the step on and off instead of rocking heal. Great set up just afraid ergonomics are a tweak off. I'm 6' 2" with a gimpy hip currently running eastonmade 12-22 but no elevator.
@@markhowes126 Well that’s a bummer. I thought for sure that table height would be a simple adjustment during fabrication, especially if a deposit was made on the unit. I believe there is enough slack in the linkage to lower to the floor if on blocks. Will give it a shot in some future videos, as it’s the number one comment on these videos. May be a game changer, I’ve just never really noticed an issue. The foot pedal could easily be extended if desired, as it’s just basic square tubing. Thanks again for watching!
My concern with extending foot petal out from under table is then it must move further up and down for the same action to happen. Thanks so much for taking time to answer my questions.
@Mark Howes thank you for the info. If Splitforce won't make the table high, that's a deal breaker for me also. I am 6 ft, and I see Fox Fire is bent over . I forgot that...
Sweet set up! I recently bought a eastonmade 22 28 I love it but its impossible to move without a machine and it makes the biggest mess of crotch pieces and I end of with ridiculous amounts of waste. Your built in elevator and bag stand are amazing as well I miss my single head splitter. it was way slow but when the wedge pushes into the wood and not the wood into the wedge it makes all the difference
Appreciate the kind words. That 22-28 is a beast of a machine. We have a lot of customers that prefer small splits, the single wedge makes all the difference in making that type stuff. Thanks for watching!
Purchased these logs earlier this summer. In years past, we had great luck scrounging and bringing in our own logs. The recent building boom has gobbled up all the timber, and we are forced to buy loads to keep them from the lumber mills. One of the reasons we have had to raise firewood prices. Thanks so much for watching!
I paid around $20k usd for this setup. That was pre-covid, and prices have risen a bit since then. It works really well for my small operation. Appreciate you watching!
Dude! If you’re trying to break some kind of record, you definitely need a splitter that splits the log into eight or more pieces, not two. The overhead shot showed your method speeds things up a lot.
Not going for any records, just showing the speed of this machine. There’s many a machine that will put mine to shame. It works well for my small operation though. Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for the kind words. Price varies depending on the product. Anywhere from $100 for campfire wood, to more than $400 for specialty cooking wood such as Apple. Really appreciate you watching!
Around $19k usd. That was before the pandemic and shipping/supply chain issues. I’m sure like everything else these days it has gone up. Contact Mat at Empire Attachments for a quote; msavard@empireattachments.com Thanks so much for watching!
I paid just under $20k USD for mine. However that was a few years ago now, right at the start of the pandemic with all of the supply chain issues etc. I'm sure like everything else they've increased. Thanks for watching!
The conveyor chain as it drops off the return chute. A bit annoying after a full day of splitting, but the good far outweighs the bad. Thanks for watching!
I've got just under $20k USD in my Split Force. I purchased before the pandemic and like everything else, I'm sure they have gone up these days. It's a great machine and has really leveled up my firewood game. Thanks for watching!
Appreciate the heads up for sure. That being said I’d gladly load a truck if they’d send one. Have hundreds on my yard from deliveries over the years. Tried many times to send them back with no luck. Thanks for watching!
I purchased through Empire Attachments. Paid around $21k usd but that was just before the pandemic, so I’m sure like everything else prices have gone up. Thanks for watching!
It is just a bit low for my height (6'). I've found that scratching a bit of a depression in the ground, or putting a couple small splits under the rear tires adjusts the height to my perfect level. Appreciate you watching!
I sell to a lot of restaurants. This wood was for a pizza oven. They prefer small splits to be able to quickly regulate the heat when cooking. Thanks for watching!
I gave around $19k usd. However that was right at the beginning of the pandemic before all the supply chains and cost increases. I’m sure like everything else they’ve gone up. Thanks for watching!
Great video! I have the exact same splitter model just a much older version used and it works great ! Three major comments. 1) can show you photos of me in the hospital with eight staples in my head walking under the chute without a helmet just like you did. Knocked out onto the ground. 2) The guy I bought my machine from employee lost his thumb by not keeping his hands away from the top of the wood. This resulted in the $90,000 lawsuit against him. 3) The guy I bought it from recommended oil and chain on the conveyor, any motor oil, which I do regularly. That might make the machine a little more quieter. Be safer my friend…🫣Thanks!
I remember when my dad bought a log splitter I laughed and said what is that!I bet him i could split faster with an ax and I won.ISplitting wood will make you a man real quick then you get older ohhh i need a log splitter.😂😥😢
Can’t speak for everyone, but I know in my operation, time is money. The quicker I can split a face cord, the more profit margin I have when I sell it. Thanks for watching!
@@rat8356 All of my customers are informed that a face cord is a third of a full cord, single stack of 16” splits, 4’ high by 8’ wide. Have stacked many bags to verify this, check out some of my other videos.
@@FoxfireProjects thats cool..for me i just dont like 16'' wood..my stove will take up to 21-22''.. i like around 19'' or so because i can get more wood in the firebox and longer burn times..i use a firewood calculator or just do the math if the pieces are not 16''..i think the term facecord was born from the 16'' length..3 rows of 16'' is 48..i think a lot of ppl think you have to stack wood 4x4x8 to measure, when you can stack it anyway you like..i stack 1.5 cords in one long row to season..26'x 5'x 19'' which equals 1.5 cord
The majority of our customers are restaurants or homeowners using the wood recreationally, so 16" is the standard. There are so many misconceptions about firewood, it's tough to do business without someone calling you a crook these days. Can definitely see how bigger pieces work better for folks using it for heating. I love calculating it out, education is key. Good talking to you!
We supply a lot of restaurants with cooking wood. This was for a local pizza oven. Small splits allow quick and easy heat regulation. Appreciate you watching!
