I sent out a lot of 63 cards last week and I only put six in toploaders. The entire lot went for 12 bucks though. It depends. If they're all high value, maybe they should all be in toploaders, but shipping that many toploaders does get expensive.
Yea it was a direct sale via a platform, all card displayed in Toploaders when offered. I was pretty much only hoping the thicker Toploaders would be in them, it costs a lot of money for the thick one’s in comparison to the regular sized. Especially when you get into there being various sizes of thickness
Yea if I only paid $12 for 63 cards I would not expect any to be in Toploaders, if it’s packaged properly it should be fine, just gotta take the extra precautions if you do ship without Toploaders. Maybe even just one or two on the outside for extra protection even if it’s just ones that are unusable anymore, but even then wouldn’t be expected rather just happier with it
For me when i ship when people buy frol me on whatnot, if people buy 1 or 2 cards they are ALWAYS shipping in toploaders. If people buy many, to save on shipping weight and packaging i bookend 2 cards in toploaders and the cards in the middle of the tema bag arent not toploaded.
Yes that was the shipping method that was used here, I was not worried about the safety or protection of the cards. Just more or less bummed out because I saw every single card be presented in Toploaders, and offered amount of money thinking that the cards would be shipped the way they were presented to me, if not I would have offered lower.
People won't pay any more for shipping so for the sake of avoiding less selling or transactions sometimes it's what must be done. If someone buys enough for me to fit into a bubble mailer all toploaded then it's easier and faster to mail them toploaded, if not then I do what I mentioned befroe..because I DO know people don't want to pay MORE for the cards or for the shipping
@AdultArtsAndCraftssportscards yes, I have adapted the plain white envelope with tracking service quite plentiful so that’s now the only real time that I do send cards not in their Toploaders. It just ergonomically makes no sense for me to send them out in Toploaders it would take too long and also it would cause more issues for both me and the buyer, since the order of pwe for cards are ridiculed by some more easily than the ones in bubble mailers
The cards were presented to be in Toploaders, yea I wasn’t so much worried about the regular size Toploaders, those I have a good stockpile of. The random size thicker Toploaders add a lot of extra expenses that you need in order to actually sell and get the money you were expecting out of a bulk deal.
@@ruffasportscards I would reach out to seller and ask why he didn’t send what was shown in listing. If it was on eBay, I would request a refund that will cover the top loader cost. Unless description said cards may not ship in top loaders.
@johnnym415-rn3ct yea a partial refund would’ve been nice, it was a direct sale via discord, I did another deal with them so I’m hoping the second deal and this one just do better than what I was expecting. Not super worried about it, just wanted to have a call to action in the video
I just buy ultra toploaders in bulk, 1000 at a time. Most of the thicker cards are usually good in 60 point top loaders but sometimes you will need 100 point toploaders for the memorabilia cards and they are not super common so I usually will have around 50 extra toploaders for the thicker cards. It's rare you will need anything bigger unless you are opening really high end product.
Thank your for your comment, yes I am going to start having some stashed away. I I buy the regular sized Toploaders in bulk, just don’t see much reason to have the bulk purchase for the thicker Toploaders since I won’t be using so so many, but the shipping costs for such a small amount of Toploaders is what makes it cost ineffective to just purchase a small amount online.
@@ruffasportscards Might be worth waiting till Black Friday/Cyber Monday. When I first started buying bulk I went and bought the cheapest toploaders on eBay cause I figured they didn't all need to be the super clear ones that you get from Ultra Pro... Was a mistake, I recommend staying away from the cheapest bulk. I bought toploaders that were marketed for 35pt cards which is pretty much the standard for Ultra Pro regular toploaders... they ended up being more like 22pt toploaders which is great for Score cards but all of the other sets it was very difficult to fit the card in the toploader.
@@jarralcarr5793 I think after a certain point, if the card is presented in a toploader and I’m guessing a good majority you’ve bought the card has had a toploader to begin with, I wouldn’t recommend removing Toploaders unless if absolutely necessary. If you are shipping plain white envelope with tracking then yes I would say you could and should remove all the Toploaders when possible, a lot different when selling thick cards. Gotta get the margins up if removing Toploaders does enough to help save you on margins!
It’s from a paid discord server, there’s a link to join in my link tree in the description of the video. Or I’ll try to list it down below :) super nice for getting inventory and tons of people in it about 5,700+. Definitely a nice tool to use. linktr.ee/ruffasportscards
Make sure you read the rules if you do join :) they have an emphasis on maintaining the overall quality of the discord and are very serious about sticking to the rules
@FTBMAKO yes it’s under “lots-of-cards” typically they will be posted there, there are 50-under section also and 50-and-up also a whole bunch of different areas, you can post in “searching-for” and people will reach out to you with stuff they want to sell also. Or you can even just message people who have posted cards if they have more stuff they want to sell and work a bulk deal :)
Yes but I know what I’m getting into when I do that, all of these cards were displayed in Toploaders when I purchased them and this was how I got the mail day, I say numbers based off what I am presented and looking at and expect to be shipped. If not I would have definitely offered lower or cover the cost of the Toploaders.
I would always always always recommend to ship the thicker cards in the Toploaders when possible. If not card savers do the trick just fine. The cards were protected very much so with a toploader sandwich, protection of the cards wasn’t the issue I wasn’t even worried about them being damaged or anything the way they were packaged up. If I’m getting paid $120 I am most definitely not removing cards from Toploaders. On my whatnot streams every single card ships in a protective measure, e.g. Toploaders, card savers, one touch, slabs, ect. If they have bubble mailer with tracking shipping unless if I state otherwise. If I present a card in a toploader I am not removing that card from its toploader unless if they expect the cheapest shipping possible which is pwe w/ tracking services like standard envelope or first class mail letter for whatnot.
Yea the main point I was trying to get at was this was a direct sale, on a marketplace like Facebook would be. Buyer posted cards in Toploaders for sale, I offered X amount for the cards how they were photoed. If I would’ve seen them not in Toploaders I would’ve probably offered x-10 or x-15. I offered the amount of money I do because I anticipate: the cards to arrive as shown. I was mainly concerned about the thicker Toploaders and not the regular sized ones because I think we all have plenty of regular sized Toploaders but the thick ones I didn’t have any and then thus had to spend $25 on thick Toploaders making my cost $25 more, where the seller would’ve probably had been out maybe $1-2 more if they left only the thicker stock cards in Toploaders
I’ve sent hundreds of orders with no top loaders. If you buy a bulk lot from me of 20-30 cards for $10 you’re not getting top loaders bud lol. I’m not giving the shit away from free. 30 top loaders are $4/5. I put them in penny sleeves then in a team bag and then between two sheets of cardboard and they will be just fine when you get them.
It’s a lot different scenarios you are talking about here. My situation is spending $120 on cards and all those cards were presented in Toploaders. I have no worry or issue of sending the regular size cards without Toploaders. I think we can all agree we should all have a stockpile of those Toploaders, they are easily and readily available and we all use them so much as card collectors it doesn’t make much sense to not have them. If I purchased 20-30 cards for $10 I would NOT expect them to be shipped in Toploaders. If I’m spending $120 on a deal I kind of hope that the cards that are miscellaneous sizes of thickness would be shipped in their toploaders and not taken out for the person buying to figure out. I don’t care about the regular size Toploaders, again those are so easily and readily available, it’s still a bummer and something I wanted to bring up incase anyone ever wants to sell to me that finds my videos. If I expect to spend less money, I can offer more money. If I have to spend more money, I have to offer less money. That’s the point of this video. If I’m getting an absolute steal on a bulk deal of cards in the 20-30+ card range and not paying shipping on top of it. I am not going into the purchase thinking oh yea I’m gonna get all those cards in Toploaders. Even If they are thicker cards I would not expect that. When spending so much money, I kind of hope that they don’t remove cards from Toploaders, especially the thick ones.
Nice :) if you want to message me on Instagram then I’d be interested potentially in hearing what your asking price is. My Instagram is RuffaSportsCards
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If the people you are buying from should have a huge stock of random top loaders…shouldn’t you as well??🤔 not much of a point you are trying to make here 😂.
I don’t remove my thicker toploader cards when shipping them, I don’t remove as many cards as possible from Toploaders. There’s a difference when buying lots online and being presented cards.. especially thick cards.. in Toploaders and then not receiving 98% of them in Toploaders. I have no worry with the smaller Toploaders, those I have a stockpile of. The thicker Toploaders of random sizes, I did not have a stockpile of at the time of recording this. I was saying we should probably all have a stockpile of the regular size Toploaders at this point, those are easily available and make sense for all card collectors to have since a lot of the majority of cards can fit in this size. The thick Toploaders with random sizes you have absolutely no way of identifying what size you’ll need in the future, I would not expect everyone to have a stockpile of. It’s also extra costs, I say a number because every single card was presented a certain way in Toploaders.
Do you ship Ebay standard envelope? Do you ship in a top loader or a card saver? The majority, if not all, cards that you buy at shows are in top loaders of all different sizes, so why you bitchin’?????
All cards were shown to be in top loaders when I purchased them? If I say a number it’s because I expect the cards to be shipped the way I see them. When I get a card from a card show, it is being sent out in that toploader!?!? I don’t just happen to multiply the amount of Toploaders I have on hand because I purchase cards at a card show? I send every single card out that I can in a Toploader, if I’m not able to send it in a Toploader then yes I send it in a card saver. I don’t remove Toploaders to stockpile Toploaders. The only times that I ship with card savers are when selling on whatnot or if selling on eBay and the person purchases more than 2 cards. I think it’s a lot different when spending $40 and $120 on deals that were presented in Toploaders than if someone purchases with the cheapest shipping possible. Also the only real ones I was bummed about were the thicker Toploaders, because at the time of recording this I had literally none.
