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Springboks v Ireland Game 2 Preview - July Rugby Tests 2024 

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South Africa v Ireland July 2024 Match Preview: Lineups, Stats & Predictions
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South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Kwagga Smith, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert , 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Ox Nche
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Gerhard Steenekamp, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Salmaan Moerat, 20 RG Snyman, 21 Marco van Staden, 22 Grant Williams, 23 Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu
Ireland: 15 Jamie Osborne, 14 Calvin Nash, 13 Garry Ringrose, 12 Robbie Henshaw, 11 James Lowe, 10 Jack Crowley, 9 Conor Murray, 8 Caelan Doris (c), 7 Josh van der Flier, 6 Tadhg Beirne 5 James Ryan, 4 Joe McCarthy, 3 Tadhg Furlong, 2 Ronan Kelleher , 1 Andrew Porter
Replacements: 16 Rob Herring, 17 Cian Healy, 18 Finlay Bealham, 19 Ryan Baird, 20 Peter O’Mahony, 21 Caolin Blade, 22 Ciaran Frawley, 23 Stuart McCloskey
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@johndunbar3038
@johndunbar3038 22 дня назад
This channel and egg chasers are the best two rugby channels as the commentary is balanced unlike most of the other channels out there.
@feargalkelly3534
@feargalkelly3534 22 дня назад
Yeah my two favourites aswell. Consistent high level and unbiased analysis and better than most pundits
@brianbarbarich1401
@brianbarbarich1401 23 дня назад
Thank you TwoCentsRugby Let the best team win on Saturday. I am supporting the Springboks because I am South African. I would like a 2-0 win in the series. Cheers from Durban. Enjoy your day.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Cheers man yeah I'm hoping for a cracking game between two of the world's best!
@lizzyhanahoe4197
@lizzyhanahoe4197 23 дня назад
Ireland by 5, thanks for your analysis, again great stuff. Go Ireland ☘🇮🇪
@BaileyAlexis-e3o
@BaileyAlexis-e3o 23 дня назад
36-12 SA
@jasonwall5012
@jasonwall5012 21 день назад
​@@BaileyAlexis-e3o Delusional...
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 21 день назад
@@BaileyAlexis-e3olol. Why do SA fans always underestimate Ireland! 😂😂😂
@duanejonker3858
@duanejonker3858 23 дня назад
Thank you Two Cents for the beautiful program. I hope we get a 2-0 in the series. Good luck Ireland!🇿🇦🇿🇦
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Cheers man! Gonna be a massive test for both sides!
@hermancoetzee696
@hermancoetzee696 22 дня назад
SA 43 IR 17
@vegman9415
@vegman9415 22 дня назад
@@hermancoetzee696Jirre boet that’s a bit hectic
@theshmed
@theshmed 22 дня назад
Good luck from Ireland lad. Hopefully 1-1 on this end😊
@keithcoyne
@keithcoyne 21 день назад
​@maybe. But strong numbers. Hoping it's closer. hermancoetzee696
@johanschoeman869
@johanschoeman869 23 дня назад
I think this game is going to be interesting. I just hope the Boks are not complacent, not with the Irish. We need to be brutally clinical and stamp out authority, particularly in the scrums. I hope that we cottoned onto the dark arts of the Irish in the last game. Kudos to them for giving us uphill in the one department the Boks excel in. (at least in the first half). All in all it has been very nice having the Irish team and supporters here, nice folk. I sincerely hope the the All Blacks play a better game this weekend. The game i saw for them last week was not up to their usual immaculate standard of play. This game also promises to be epic. Well Two Cents, have a cold one on me and have a great rugby weekend. May the best teams win!
@randomlyfactual1943
@randomlyfactual1943 22 дня назад
Dude that second line: complacency. I've been worried about that all week. As much as I love the Boks and as much as they rise up for the big matches, you get the feeling that they always need a kick in the rear. I hope Rassie got them motivated and mad and gets them to be clinical.
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 21 день назад
Thanks Johan, the best team won alright.
@Alias-gy3tz
@Alias-gy3tz 23 дня назад
Did you see Victor Matfield's take down of JK on the Breakdown? That was epic 🤣
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Was that when he was a guest on the show? 😅
@Alias-gy3tz
@Alias-gy3tz 23 дня назад
@@TwoCentsRugby Yes! They commented on the punching bag in his office, to which he replied that he is going to put a photo of JK on the punching bag. It was funny :)
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Ah that's right! Bloody hilarious!
@71bootneck
@71bootneck 23 дня назад
Was too funny.
@mikescudder4621
@mikescudder4621 23 дня назад
Yeah that was funny.
@chrismcqueen5134
@chrismcqueen5134 23 дня назад
Remarkable that this is like the biggest injury "crisis" for ireland that i can remember for a long time. Still no where near as bad as some of the crises at other teams but shows how fit theyve been historically
@SmcdMcd-d2k
@SmcdMcd-d2k 23 дня назад
Yeah it is and I know it’s the end of a long season for everyone but they did contest a six nations and win and were in camp alongside URC so your right it’s does show how fit they are
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 21 день назад
Ireland doesn’t have the player pool and depth of most other top tier nations.
@theshmed
@theshmed 22 дня назад
Hopefully we’ll have the boks here in Ireland soon. Good luck to all playing. Should be a banger 🇮🇪🇿🇦🎉🎉
@chrismouton1985
@chrismouton1985 23 дня назад
This promises to be one hell of a game. I'm sure the Irish would like to finish strong and they are a tough bunch. I also think Rassie would've given the Boks a tongue lashing for their lack of execution at times and letting the Irish in at the last 10min. Gonna be some sore bodies come Sunday. Boks by 8.
@christiancatley4120
@christiancatley4120 23 дня назад
Great preview! Should be another good game Picking the Boks at home
@bernardswart2019
@bernardswart2019 23 дня назад
From what I can see, the last time Ireland lost two consecutive tests was February 2021, given that the NZ maori loss is not considered an official test by IRB? They've definitely been the form team in the last 3 years in World Rugby, if the Boks and the ABs get the job done on the weekend it would definitely feel like a shift in power between North and South. If either Ireland or England win their matches this weekend, they will leave the rsspective shores feeling the happier of the two drawing parties I reckon.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Ah wow yeah that's some record for Ireland isn't it - Rassie definitely wants 2-0
@bryanantolik9900
@bryanantolik9900 23 дня назад
SA NZ final I think showed the shift in power was never away from the south.
@HeeniKeke
@HeeniKeke 23 дня назад
Hoping for an Irish victory…great team!
@Alias-gy3tz
@Alias-gy3tz 23 дня назад
Hoping for an England victory... great team :)
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 23 дня назад
Thank you. And I hope that the All Blacks win-out t'morra and give the English the beating of the season. God bless NZ; the Greatest Rugby Nation In The World🏴‍☠☘
@feargalkelly3534
@feargalkelly3534 22 дня назад
Best of luck from Ireland will be cheering you on too!
@neilmontgomery3470
@neilmontgomery3470 23 дня назад
I like the look of the Irish team more this week. I think we will be better. Boks definitely favorites but I think Ireland played quite poorly last week for large sections of that game and they never do back to back poor games.
@davidwalker2402
@davidwalker2402 23 дня назад
All I can say is if SA lose this test it will and should feel like a series loss, considering all the advantages they have. Playing at home home crowd a pool of players 5 times the size of Irelands . Good luck and hopefully its a great test 🍀
@DizzyAstro
@DizzyAstro 23 дня назад
I think these two teams bring out the best in each other... I'd like to see a longer term relationship/rivalry. I'd love an Irish win this weekend, meaning all even for the series. Give both teams a good reason to meet up again.
@Smith-hl6ms
@Smith-hl6ms 22 дня назад
They cut lose only because ireland have terrible injury 5 of best team players that beat u 3 in a row in ireland .but the injury where dirty casey pundits aki etc deliberately to stop ireland and the try ireland got robbed of irish won that that game irish will some day not be so soft after all they where no 1 for years beat a. Lean albla is 2 1 in series and again year later so if u keep rubbing them up wrong way in future beware especially in ireland. Play clean win clean ranges from 🇪🇸 irish super supporter
@subbie5498
@subbie5498 22 дня назад
​@@Smith-hl6msthere's barely 4 injuries in the team
@davidwalker2402
@davidwalker2402 22 дня назад
@@subbie5498 Gibson park, Craig Casey , dan Sheehan , aki, Mack Hansen , Hugo Keenan , thats 6 first team players, there are 3 others but those are usually bench players.
@ceddie2762
@ceddie2762 22 дня назад
As a saffa I agree with you. That's why I think that the boks are aware of this and will not be complacent
@johnwagenhauser9835
@johnwagenhauser9835 23 дня назад
Great program as usual.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Cheers for taking the time mate!
@edpikestone6800
@edpikestone6800 23 дня назад
More McCloskey please Andy. Heart says Ireland, head says SA. Come on Ireland!!!
@alanhughes3070
@alanhughes3070 22 дня назад
Remember Sexton 😁 when he took over captaincy during a game with Raynal reffing “I know you don’t like me, but I’m captain now so you have to talk to me!” 😂😂 how to win friends and influence people 🙂 loved it!
@waynej3912
@waynej3912 23 дня назад
Great preview, looking forward to this one. Hoping Sacha gets more game time this week for the boks but unlikely
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
You and me both!
@randomlyfactual1943
@randomlyfactual1943 22 дня назад
Sacha will get the exact amount of game time that he needs. Yes, I want to see the kid blossom into the Sith Lord of a rugby player we all know he is going to be, but I'll trust Rassie's judgement with him.
@Jon-bk2yw
@Jon-bk2yw 23 дня назад
possibly could be a tactical move by Ireland to bulk up their backrow. bringing Peter on later in the game could work, hopefully ringrose will bring something in both attack and defence.huge game for both teams and their supporters
@RTS1980
@RTS1980 22 дня назад
5 3 split vs 6 2 split. That's about the odds
@ruanbezuidenhout6811
@ruanbezuidenhout6811 22 дня назад
Can't wait to go watch the game tomorrow! Just hoping the vibe will be as great.
@YOYOTh1s
@YOYOTh1s 23 дня назад
It's interesting that everyone was so gungho on praising the bombsquad. Sure, that penalty try scrum was a thing fo beauty, but I felt the quality of the game dipped significantly when the bombsquad came on. I really want to stay out of the referee debate. I really, really don't want to say anything about it.
@SmcdMcd-d2k
@SmcdMcd-d2k 23 дня назад
It’s not really a thing of beauty when you have a fresh set of six players . It’s not like those players had to endure the 70 mins previous
@YOYOTh1s
@YOYOTh1s 23 дня назад
​@@SmcdMcd-d2k It was a thing of beauty! If the Irish forwards was tired, then maybe the Irish management should've managed their substitutions better. Not that I think the fresh bench players would've been able to stand up to it much more better than the tired starters.
@SmcdMcd-d2k
@SmcdMcd-d2k 23 дня назад
@@YOYOTh1s oh my god 😅 mate the boks are known for this Tatic. It’s legal sure but it’s a huge advantage to bring that many on. Let’s be real
@YOYOTh1s
@YOYOTh1s 23 дня назад
@@SmcdMcd-d2k I don't get your complaint then. It is the Boks' winning strategy, it is within the laws of the game, and they are using it effectively. It is up to the opponents to find a way around it and Ireland, Porter in particular, is very good at cheesing the scrums to make it look like their opponents are doing illegal stuff. So the Boks did very well to make sure the Irish front row couldn't get any value out of the hit, and then absolutely dismantled them after. Which shows a lot of skill, strategy, and of course brute strength to get a positive result. That is how you win at professional sport and that is why it is a thing of beauty.
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 23 дня назад
Lowes try was good
@lizzyhanahoe4197
@lizzyhanahoe4197 23 дня назад
Ahh very interesting what you told us about Nigel Owen’s analysis of the use of the TMO after the James Lowe try. Then that is despicable that 1. It was used, and 2. That the Ref called for it. Water under the bridge now but ………………
@Hiltok
@Hiltok 22 дня назад
Even if Nigel Owens is right that the TMO should not have intervened, it was still the decision of the onfield ref to agree with him. I've seen more and more refs look at footage shown by the TMO and come to a different decision than the one the TMO suggested. The decision was ultimately the decision of Luke Pearce. My complaint about the TMO was that if he was good enough to spot Kelleher being just off his feet before his boot helped the ball back in a messy ruck, he should have been good enough to see Kolbe offside at the kick-off where he charged down Lowe's clearance kick. But that would have really embarrassed the onfield ref and AR's.
@lizzyhanahoe4197
@lizzyhanahoe4197 22 дня назад
@@Hiltok I agree, I really feel that the ref made some really really bad decisions, was he getting a “back hander” or was he nervous of the crowd, or just pro SA? I know SA will say he made bad ones for them also but the ones against the Irish team proved more damaging. Sorry but what are AR’s? I’m still learning 👍
@Faust_ZA
@Faust_ZA 23 дня назад
I also thought nigels input was interesting on whistle watch either someone at world rugby wasnt impressed and gave him the topics or nigel is trying his best to be on the fence with his analysis
@Hiltok
@Hiltok 22 дня назад
It was curious. I wonder if Nigel Owens would have criticized the TMO if he wasn't a fellow Welshman. I don't watch all of the Whistle Watch videos but I've never seen him be so blunt in repudiating a decision.
@johndcoffee632
@johndcoffee632 22 дня назад
He basically never goes against the status quo even in the most obvious of wrong decisions, that'll tell you how stupid he thought that decision
@TheCryptoSniper
@TheCryptoSniper 22 дня назад
Nigel Owens put NH before SH..
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 23 дня назад
Good luck Ireland and most importantly good luck caolin blade!
@PB22559
@PB22559 23 дня назад
Will he get gametime?
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 23 дня назад
@@PB22559 he has to. Murrays an OAP at this point. No way he'll last the whole 80. Probably 50-60 minutes if he doesn't get injured first.
@PB22559
@PB22559 23 дня назад
@@Natedawg38 Blade has no experience at this level. I wouldn't be surprised to see Murray play 60-70mins.
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 23 дня назад
@@PB22559 he's got caps. Don't be surprised if they target our scrum half, it worked wonders for them last week
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 21 день назад
@@Natedawg38Murray scored a try both games!
@guth6839
@guth6839 22 дня назад
Durban warmer than Loftus ball gets slippy and Boks going wide-wide could cost few turnovers Fancy Ringrose to intercept one or two and Bangor Banger to make some big hits and carries when he comes on
@FJM992
@FJM992 23 дня назад
Ben Shitehouse living up to his name again in that first match.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Yeah rugby fans don't agree on a lot, but dislike for him seems pretty universal 😅
@johncahalane7327
@johncahalane7327 23 дня назад
​@@TwoCentsRugbyThe biggest problem with Whitehouse is in Ireland we have seen way too much of him as a referee and TMO and for making serious blunders, even Nigel Owens has called this out in his podcast....there were hometown decisions here and the Boks complaining about the Irish scrum is a joke or Rassie shithousery again I suspect, let's hope the referee doesn't drop out at short notice like last week, Like Pierce I predict will never referee an Irish team again, he will be kept as far away from them ,can't win playing 17 men on the field...
@WH1SK3YJ4CK
@WH1SK3YJ4CK 23 дня назад
Saying Luke will never ref Ireland again is a bit of wishful thinking, they only have a handful of refs and it's not up to the irfu who gets the job
@Hiltok
@Hiltok 22 дня назад
@@WH1SK3YJ4CK Teams do get a bit of say in who refs them. Nic Berry hasn't reffed any SA tests since the Lions Tour, although he is good enough to be the on-field ref for this weekend's NZ v. England match. Likewise, it is unlikely that Mathieu Raynal will ever ref Australia again after the match between Australia and NZ in Melbourne in 2022.
@WH1SK3YJ4CK
@WH1SK3YJ4CK 22 дня назад
@@Hiltok if that's the case then happy fecking days lmao
@thinuspotgieter1535
@thinuspotgieter1535 22 дня назад
Thanks Two Cents, GREAT Channel!
@davidroseitg
@davidroseitg 22 дня назад
Marx pinched one with a player blocking the clear out on the ground with his legs in the air!
@Davidvx1468
@Davidvx1468 23 дня назад
I'm a saffa and I have a feeling Ireland will sneak this one, gonna be another tough game.
@paulcostello1807
@paulcostello1807 23 дня назад
I think Beirne at 6 is a master stroke. How long can Murray play at pace??? Will Kelleher stay fit.? This kind of has shades of the second test in New Zealand doesn't it
@AD-zcvnt
@AD-zcvnt 22 дня назад
​@@paulcostello1807I'm very much looking forward to blade behind a decent pack.
@michaelaldan4354
@michaelaldan4354 22 дня назад
Greets from Durban Mark, oh yes I'll be watching this...beer 'n barbie !....excuse the misspelling.....beers ofcourse
@SmilingJumpingSpider-gb8sc
@SmilingJumpingSpider-gb8sc 22 дня назад
Best show🎉🎉🎉🎉
@mitch2924
@mitch2924 23 дня назад
TB’s work has played an instant impact in the Boks.
@colmgeiran3476
@colmgeiran3476 22 дня назад
Girding our loins for the worst. Hoping for the best from Ringrose. Should bring something new to our game. Coybig!
@Faust_ZA
@Faust_ZA 23 дня назад
the 6 2 we have looks tasty i couldnt have asked for any other backs to be on the bench than grant and sacha
@jimmyobrien8738
@jimmyobrien8738 21 день назад
I predicted Ireland to win by a point or a draw get in there 💪
@joewhelan5018
@joewhelan5018 22 дня назад
You forgot to mention South Africa 's best players . .the Referee and the TMO. Great players
@donaldpinkus5284
@donaldpinkus5284 23 дня назад
The Boks let in too many tries.
@Krazymarmo
@Krazymarmo 23 дня назад
Kicking your goals is like eating your vitamins. You gotta do it. Isn't it?
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Yeah man hard to get away with poor kicking at test level aye
@Thatiscutebr0
@Thatiscutebr0 23 дня назад
Karl Dickson. Gonna be some interesting calls 🤔🤔🤔
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
That's always my vibe on him too!
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 23 дня назад
He does not have a good history with Ireland, that's for sure. He was the AR for the Champions Cup final that resulted in Sexton been banned before the RWC. He had made claims against Sexton that the Disciplinary panel rejected and were critical of his claims. He was also responsible as an AR (again) for the yellow card on Beirne in the Wales game in this years 6Ns where he basically bullied the Italian ref Piardi . Again as a AR he was involved in the Scotland game disallowing a try by Furlong where it was impossible for him to see from his position as a AR.He was also an AR in last weeks game with South Africa. Nonetheless, he was the ref for the France game in the 6Ns, which Ireland won.
@keithcoyne
@keithcoyne 21 день назад
Boom. 💥
@harry258
@harry258 22 дня назад
Look fair play to South Africa for winning last week but it was really disappointing that James lowes try was disallowed as you could argue it being legal and also kolbes try being in touch, I just hope we aren’t relying on TMOs to change the game.
@nicoldevilliers6102
@nicoldevilliers6102 22 дня назад
Sa always lacks the killer instinct. They are the better team, but will lose. But 3peat coming in. They are also evolving and building depth. Future looks bright
@khumphrey86
@khumphrey86 22 дня назад
I'm guessing that the "out passing and offloading" IRE, and the giving up more turnovers are related (Hat Tip @SquidgeRugby). That's your Tony Brown right there. Only committing one to the ruck leaves the Boks vulnerable to counter ruck, but leaves extra guys on their feet for passing/off-loading.
@jeramy576
@jeramy576 23 дня назад
I never have a great feeling when there's an english ref.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
My dad says the same about French refs 😅
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 23 дня назад
@@TwoCentsRugby That's interesting. I've always despaired when there is a French Ref. Not because I expect him/her to be biased against one team or the other but I expect him to be useless. In-consistent, lazy, wrong and generally a waste of space. But, only a fool couldn't notice that Wayne Barnes was always biased when reffing Irish games. My brothers and sisters used to ring me up before games and say "Did you see who is reffing it". He was so obviously anti-Irish. Maybe a Paddy $hagged his mother while his Dad was away keeping law and order in Northern Ireland in the 70s. But for whatever reason, he was a bigot and an absolute disgrace. And from what we could see last weekend, Pearse was just as biased. If Luke is reading this, well done young man, just remember that we have something that you no longer have, its called an Economy.
@Thatiscutebr0
@Thatiscutebr0 23 дня назад
@TwoCentsRugby I say the same when Mike (worse than Poite, Garces and Raynal) Adamson (or Shite Adamson) has the whistle
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
@Thatiscutebr0 yeah I try not to go in on refs, but Adamson I really don't think is up to standard sadly
@johncahalane7327
@johncahalane7327 23 дня назад
This English Referee is very quirky be on your guard both teams ,another bloody English referee ... odds of someone sent off here major
@CptRumcan
@CptRumcan 23 дня назад
Only the second time ever Karl Dickson wil ref a Boks game.
@evangelicalmasasa819
@evangelicalmasasa819 23 дня назад
Thanks for the preview Mark. It was confusing to hear that TMO is not meant for technical stuff even in the case that leads to a try...
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Yeah Nige seemed a little less light hearted than normal in that one - tone felt a bit different!
@Camcolito
@Camcolito 23 дня назад
Just think about what would happen if that was the standard. It would be an unwatchable TMO-fest reviewing every ruck to try find an infringement, and you know there are at least 3 at every one.
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 23 дня назад
When I watched his video and views I agreed with him, but he is easy to agree with because of his style and the way that you assume that he is right cos he is the best ever Rugby Ref. But... I wonder if perhaps he has a sub-conscious pro-NH bias. I'm no expert, but I'll be honest I kind of agreed with the refs decision that he played the play when he shouldn't have. As to whether the TMO should have been called in, I don't know. Nigel seemed to think that the ref should be much more subjective that I think he should be, the rules are the rules.
@eughrologh
@eughrologh 23 дня назад
The thing with the ruck one is that the ref is staring at it. In the replays he's more or less in the way looking at the ruck and ball. TMO is surely not meant to give a 2nd opinion but cover things the ref didn't see - unless the ref explicitly asks the TMO to review something they are concerned about.
@Blindside_Flanker
@Blindside_Flanker 23 дня назад
​They didn't have to try find it.. It was clear as day. I would rather that kind of infringement be checked cause it's cheating at the end of the day and we don't want teams focusing on training how to make technical "mistakes", that lead to tries and that they know they will get away with. Set a few examples to show that it won't be tolerated and then maybe ease off a little once the message is clear for all teams.
@mfp4136
@mfp4136 23 дня назад
Reckon Owen’s was bang on. TMO need to stay in their lane and the ref should’ve asked for a decision on try or no try for Kolbe try instead of any reason for not awarding the try
@sbok9481
@sbok9481 23 дня назад
Both Nigel and you are out of touch with reality. World Rugby has INSTRUCTED the TMO to be more involved. The TMO is doing his job I line with his job description l, the same way you do your day-job. On field try decisions have been part of rugby from the start of introducing TMO's. Change the rugby laws if you want it to be ref'ed differently. You only complain when on the receiving end.
@mfp4136
@mfp4136 23 дня назад
@@sbok9481 - hey!! settle down. Why so angry? Would you rather everyone had your opinion? If you listened to what Owen’s said, instead of just hearing it, you’d appreciate it’s his opinion on how it should be. TMOs shouldn’t call out technical infringements that the ref hasn’t asked to be reviewed. If that was the right way to go, why bother have on field refs.
@sbok9481
@sbok9481 23 дня назад
@@mfp4136 I am settled down, in fact I just gave you the facts in my previous message. I really don't understand why people would say that the referee "should or should not" have done something, yet, what he did was perfectly what the rugby laws asks him to do. So, Kolbe's try remains a legitimate try. Even World Rugby's reply to the Irish Report, where they questioned the same incident, was that it was a legitimate try, and the referee acted in the framework of the laws. If you want to change the way the referee handles situations, then change the laws.
@mfp4136
@mfp4136 23 дня назад
@@sbok9481 - your facts perhaps but your interpretation of my comment is wrong. 2 incidents, the 1st is the TMO calling back Lowe’s try for a technical infringement despite the ref not asking for a review. That shouldn’t be in the TMO’s remit. That’s all Owens said and I agree. TMOs shouldn’t have powers to interfere with the game on technical calls that have not been referred to the TMO for review. 2. In Kolbe’s try, the ref shouldn’t have said on field decision is a try, but rather asked the TMO to decide try or no try. In both instances there’s no suggestion that the rules of the game weren’t followed but rather mere opinions of someone who’s very knowledgeable on the laws and highly regarded in WR and me who just enjoys rugby and finds some of the laws debatable and refs decisions questionable. They’re just not your opinions. That’s okay mate, you can have your opinions. Even if it is wrong. But that’s just my opinion. Others may disagree and say you shouldn’t have an opinion, but I reckon is okay to allow the dull and the ignorant to speak. And don’t think I’m a sore loser because my team won. Yeah, another thing you were wrong about hey.
@sbok9481
@sbok9481 22 дня назад
@@mfp4136 Please search the article: RugbyPass, Ireland and Springboks agree to trial New TMO protocol in Pretoria. The same Ireland is now complaining about something they agreed on, prior to the series. You on the other hand, should do your research to understand what is happening in rugby, and don't just follow what others tell you. Nigel is out of touch of what's happening around him. Unfortunately, he must retire from commenting on games, as he can't keep up with changes.
@iansinclair7581
@iansinclair7581 23 дня назад
Re TMO intervention. Well what can I say. If you are Scottish you know fine well that Whitehouse does this against Scottish sides so I’m not a fan of this gentlemen.
@readesiun988
@readesiun988 23 дня назад
Yes he does, he thinks he should also be the ref and basically puts the ref in a very awkward position, by undermining them. It is disgraceful carry on
@brianmurray6287
@brianmurray6287 23 дня назад
Blade is a decent 9 some would say better than Casey
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Blade has been unlucky to play at a time when Ireland have so many good 9s for sure!
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 23 дня назад
Blade is very capable. Dying to see him on the pitch in durban.
@gezzarandom
@gezzarandom 23 дня назад
I’d have liked to see Stuart McCloskey getting a chance at 12 with Bundee out injured as he’s a natural inside centre. This’ll be a test of our squad depth, hopefully we can do it. 🤞
@revenant2979
@revenant2979 22 дня назад
Southern Hemesphere all the way. Unfortunately 🇹🇴 Tonga has lost to Italy but will always support the Ilanders. In SA the ABs play at 9 and rugby through the day to The Boks and Ireland at 17:00. Did not watch the ABs game but you just dont go to New Zealand and win a rugby game. For the first time ever I am in front of Two Cents on Superbru.😅 I think Razor do need time to adjust and so to the Springboks with a new running style of rugby. SA could have fielded two sides to play Ireland and Portugal. That first test for the All Blacks vs Springboks at Ellis Park will be the real test for the ABs.
@johnryan509
@johnryan509 23 дня назад
I've South Africa by 12, I'm sorry to say. I can't see us overcoming the injuries in South Africa and they look dead set on a clean sweep.
@adriaanhugo13
@adriaanhugo13 23 дня назад
Mark what camera do you use?
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Had to double check - it's a webcam - Logitech C920 - got it way back when the channel first monetized in 2018 - so it's going ok!
@adriaanhugo13
@adriaanhugo13 13 дней назад
@@TwoCentsRugbythanks mate
@iamhuman2867
@iamhuman2867 22 дня назад
Remember Ireland have 5 million people
@ceddie2762
@ceddie2762 22 дня назад
Why? SA has less than 5mil players. Well just under😂
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 21 день назад
7 million including N.I.
@Clarkgravel
@Clarkgravel 22 дня назад
Karl Dickson - we‘re fucked!
@patlynch6113
@patlynch6113 23 дня назад
Are you doing a watch party for this one mate
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
3am I might struggle mate!
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 23 дня назад
​@@TwoCentsRugbyjust stay up drinking mark. Problem solved.
@ndumisodatini3373
@ndumisodatini3373 23 дня назад
Matt Williams is just a clueless clown
@Jesus_is_Lord_316
@Jesus_is_Lord_316 22 дня назад
Wait a second - did Two Cents give his prediction??
@aaronmoore9417
@aaronmoore9417 23 дня назад
Strange call to leave out the captain O’Mahony. I understand how coaches often play horses for courses but you usually build that around a core group of players like the captain. Maybe all is not well?
@nepiahemopo1702
@nepiahemopo1702 23 дня назад
Do you sympatise?
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Farrell says O'Mahoney wasn't happy with being benched (I doubt any pro rugby player is) but is happy to do what's right for the team
@wihanjansevanrensburg436
@wihanjansevanrensburg436 23 дня назад
Being put on your ass by De Allende twice in two seconds will do that to anyone.😂
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
@wihanjansevanrensburg436 😂
@aaronmoore9417
@aaronmoore9417 23 дня назад
@@nepiahemopo1702 I do. He’s a real warrior O’Mahony
@Bobbydyland
@Bobbydyland 23 дня назад
I have to say, I was perplexed by Nigel Owen's intervention on this Whistle Watch video. He said that they try should have stood because playing the ball off the ground was "technical". But it directly lead to the try. Go back 2 years, where SA vs Wales, where SA had a try disallowed because Malcolm Marks didn't retreat from a box kick (but had no impact on the try being scored) and that was fine. But diving over the ball, securing it illegally leading to a try isn't something we should come back for? huh? If going off you feet to steal a ball isn't something to be called out then change the law to allow it. But right now it's illegal, so the try was invalid.
@Cpchurch87
@Cpchurch87 23 дня назад
I think the bigger issue is there was so much more going on at that ruck. Kelleher was neck rolled into the ball, he was perfectly legal before that, questionable entries from both sides, Aki possibly going off his feet. I think all us fans want is consistency, whatever the outcome. For the record, I don't think the try should have stood, but I do think Ireland were unlucky not to be given a penalty for the neck roll on Kelleher. It seemed to be the "most serious" of all the offences
@Bobbydyland
@Bobbydyland 23 дня назад
@@Cpchurch87 The Neck roll is contentious for me. A traditional neck roll is performed to clear out someone. It's used as a dangerous way to get an unfair advantage. Like a croc roll. But Kelleher puts his head though Le-Roux arms and pushes him off balance. He's clearing Le Roux out. It's not a straightforward neck roll, since he arguably did it to himself. Is a high tackle still a high tackle when the ball carrier bends over and dives at the knees of a tackler? No, it's not viewed that way. And I think this "neck roll" was the same.
@Cpchurch87
@Cpchurch87 23 дня назад
@@Bobbydyland I never usually watch his stuff, but TAS analytics has a video with the entire incident slowed down. Just watch the video and take an objective view yourself. For me it’s a clear neck roll. I’d be interested to hear your view after watching it
@Bobbydyland
@Bobbydyland 22 дня назад
@@Cpchurch87 I get why it looks like one to many people but I don't think it is one. Got to the time stamp below and use the . key to go forward frame-by-frame. Kellerher puts his head into Le-Roux arm-pit and pushes him off balance, making Le Roux grasp as he falls backwards (a reflex action). If Le roux arrived after Kellerher and pushed him off the ball using a grip around the neck, then yes. But that's not what happened here. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3IYZpHWATrE.html
@Cpchurch87
@Cpchurch87 22 дня назад
@Bobbydyland I guess it comes down to interpretation. For me, an arm around the neck is an arm around the neck. Good discussion though, thanks for the honest dialogue. Not for a second am I dismissing SA or their win. Fantastic team, and well worth the win. I guess I just want to see consistency. There were plenty of infringements from both sides at that ruck. That's the one that was called, and we live with that and move on. But world rugby have a serious issue in their hands as fans demand better standards, but also want a free flowing game! Tough one to balance
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 23 дня назад
Great preview Mark. I know that Karl Dickson is English but he can't be bad as Pearse from a fair play perspective. Pearse was a waste of space, frankly he was embarrassingly biased. He made Wayne Barnes look fair. Storm Beryl is causing Havoc in the Caribbean but there is a storm going to be un-leashed this weekend which will pummel the Bokkes. I expect Ireland to win by at least 10 points, they have a point to prove and are better than this SA side. James Ryan and Ringrose are going to mesmerize a very average SA side. Every action has a reaction and the reaction is going to be brutal this weekend for the poor South Africans. Normality will be restored on Saturday.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
I always find Dickson a bit of a loose cannon - like the hardest to predict. Be interesting to see how he goes with the whistle!
@jpfowlds5921
@jpfowlds5921 23 дня назад
I'm coming back to this comment after this weekends game. Can't wait for the boks to humble you ignorant Irish fans & pundits😂😂
@jpfowlds5921
@jpfowlds5921 23 дня назад
😂😂😂
@raymondhorn8041
@raymondhorn8041 23 дня назад
I want to come back to this comment
@paulcostello1807
@paulcostello1807 23 дня назад
You again what have I told you about posting when you are on the crackpipe. Ireland could possibly win but man oh man. South Africa one of the greatest teams
@joewhelan5018
@joewhelan5018 22 дня назад
The people who wonder why the game isn't flourishing in the likes of Wales and Australia would do well to call out the absolute thuggery of Snyman's blatant late tackle and follow through on Casey and the thugs that blamed the concussion on the hard ground
@Mr-Litch
@Mr-Litch 23 дня назад
So basically Nigel is saying that even the obvious must be over looked in the ruk🤔
@danemyburgh
@danemyburgh 23 дня назад
I'd go as far as to say Nigel is almost irrelevant now. The laws have changed a fair bit since he last reffed. Still the greatest ref ever, but we are in 2024 now.
@alexducasse830
@alexducasse830 23 дня назад
No I think it can be interpreted that we should allow TMO’s to expose what is essentially cheating - no other way of putting it.
@paulcostello1807
@paulcostello1807 23 дня назад
Things should not be reviewed and brought back further and further looking for an I fraction in order to cancel out a score. I'm not a soccer fan but soccer fans are complaining about VAR and saying that goals are getting cancelled out and that gamesmanship and shithousery are part and parcel of the game. Just another attempt to sanitise everything. I'm only talking about minor offences not gross foul play
@theborgster8497
@theborgster8497 23 дня назад
This Saffa is very nervous for the Irish backlash in this game.
@ianjacobs2998
@ianjacobs2998 23 дня назад
We are my friend, BUT optimistic 🙏.MY PREDICTION.... SPRINGBOKS WIN BY 15+😊
@user-zv7ns5ik6y
@user-zv7ns5ik6y 22 дня назад
SA with 14....
@hartseunnounou
@hartseunnounou 22 дня назад
Lekker bokke
@gramsdalebudsman2053
@gramsdalebudsman2053 23 дня назад
Hier kom die Bokke!!
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 22 дня назад
Kom julle seuns in groen ! COYBIG !!!!!!
@rugbyhub72
@rugbyhub72 23 дня назад
Love it! Going to be a Massive Game! Let us know what you make of the latest RugbyHub preview 🏉
@ianjacobs2998
@ianjacobs2998 23 дня назад
Two nil for the CHAMPIONS 🏆🏆🏆🏆 GO GET THEM BOKKE!!!🙏
@Irish780
@Irish780 23 дня назад
I'm sure you will such bad timing for Ireland to play they world champs
@RTS1980
@RTS1980 22 дня назад
I reckon scoreline will be decided by a penalty kick...
@kaos419
@kaos419 22 дня назад
Springboks should win game 2 at King's Park therefore series 2-0.
@keithcoyne
@keithcoyne 21 день назад
Well
@wouterswanepoel5753
@wouterswanepoel5753 22 дня назад
I hope this weekend's referee will take care of the Irish backrow's consistent offside play at the rucks and mauls. How come no other team's loosies have ever put so much pressure on Faf than the Irish last weekend? Because no team's backrow has ever been so consistently offside since the days of Richie McCaw. May the best team win! Cheers from Safferland chaps! 🇿🇦
@guth6839
@guth6839 22 дня назад
Ireland to win 24 - 19 Ireland win more turnovers Secure own line-out and challenge with Ryan on Boks throws. Better set piece Ireland forward pack this week Bomb will turn tide but Ireland over 80
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 21 день назад
Very close!
@Smith-hl6ms
@Smith-hl6ms 22 дня назад
With our five best players from deliberate foulsa what chance we hVe none ut we need to get to them we are as tough we beat them 3 from 4 e en in world up ireland beat them
@4evaavfc
@4evaavfc 23 дня назад
Boks are favorites, for sure, but will be entertaining.
@DarkstarMonday
@DarkstarMonday 23 дня назад
Come on boet, just put the Green and Gold on just one time for us…. Promise a Springbok don’t bite….hard 😂
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Haha underdog for the preview! Had me wearing England for that vid too, lol
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 23 дня назад
God damn you, I was supposed to be first....
@AntoniusMalan
@AntoniusMalan 23 дня назад
The first 2 comments look like spam. You technically are first
@JRits399
@JRits399 23 дня назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Indeed you are the first human mate - the others were bots
@khankake9576
@khankake9576 23 дня назад
You are, bot comments don't count.
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 23 дня назад
@@TwoCentsRugby Winner, winner chicken dinner !!!! Good on you Mark, I am probably a bit sad but I so love when I see the notifications for your new videos. And I have to say that I am probably a sore loser. After the World Cup Qtr final where Ireland was knocked out (again) by a great ABs team, and also after Leinster lost this years Champions Cup and Munster was knocked out of the URC, I honestly didn't want to watch any Rugby videos for the following week. Its bonkers but I needed time to "heal". Sport is such a great mirror of real life, we all have good days and bad days. I am living for the U20 games at the moment and of course this weekends big senior games. Could England beat the ABs ? Could Ireland beat the Bokkes ? Could Wales win a game ? (!) Not sure if you are following the U20 World Cup but there are some juicy semi-final games on this weekend. My prediction is another Ireland v. France final. But, I would love to see Ireland win the final against the sublime ABs. Just to confirm, am I still the first ?
@harry258
@harry258 22 дня назад
Don’t worry South African fans, Irish people don’t agree with anything Matt Williams says, may the best team win !!
@user-rr7xz4vi4i
@user-rr7xz4vi4i 23 дня назад
Great video mate. Btw have you heard about Ireland banning south Africans with visas to travel for free 😅I may be getting the details a bit mixed but it's something to look into as it's absolutely mental😅😅
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Yeah I seem to remember it's a coincidence (something about the EU) - but the timing is hilarious
@johncahalane7327
@johncahalane7327 23 дня назад
It's a new EU 🇪🇺 directive because Ireland is the only English speaking country inside the EU 🇪🇺 migration from South Africa is much larger from there than most African countries except Nigeria 🇳🇬, who by the way have taken up rugby in Ireland, we just banned XL Bully Dogs too but it has nothing to do with Saffa fans...coming to Ireland either.
@Analytical2000
@Analytical2000 23 дня назад
Somehow or other, I don't think the Irish government are very big rugby supporters. Looking at which sports they prioritize funding should address that concern. Irish migration policy is that of the EU, meaning it is also the same for France and Italy. The reason I suspect for the change with that policy is due to the number of South Africans wishing to leave South Africa for economic reasons. It is somewhat funny that South Africans are leaving South Africa in their droves to the EU , especially as South Africa is one of the World's wealthiest nations, a member of the G20 and of BRICS and yet they can't support their own people.
@johncahalane7327
@johncahalane7327 23 дня назад
@@Analytical2000 The problem is the same too with immigrants from Brazil and India, was flying back from Lisbon to Dublin almost everyone around me was coming from Brazil heading back to work in Ireland after a family visit
@jackdarby8904
@jackdarby8904 22 дня назад
Boks by 8
@stevenenslin7259
@stevenenslin7259 23 дня назад
Springboks need to go there and stamp there authority as world number 1 and world champions. The Springboks were experimenting at Loftus,by playing a game like the ABs,dnot think they will do the same in Durban they will revert back to there game on Saturday, Springboks by 15.
@afikiletokwe9938
@afikiletokwe9938 23 дня назад
Willie will probably play his 100th test against the All Blacks.
@mrwelshmun
@mrwelshmun 23 дня назад
Wheres mack hansen these days?
@paulcostello1807
@paulcostello1807 23 дня назад
Almost back from a serious shoulder injury I think he had surgery
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 21 день назад
@@paulcostello1807Didn’t he just have one before that? Or came back and got injured again?
@johndcoffee632
@johndcoffee632 22 дня назад
Please ignore Matt Williams, everyone in Ireland has been ignoring him for years.
@user-rb3bb7mi3u
@user-rb3bb7mi3u 23 дня назад
Boks all the way
@creekyknee
@creekyknee 21 день назад
Easy.
@subbie5498
@subbie5498 22 дня назад
rsa 69 ire 68
@David-fw2bt
@David-fw2bt 23 дня назад
Boks by 20+
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Rassie would take that I reckon!
@dirkbotha3733
@dirkbotha3733 23 дня назад
Just remember that World Rugby has a trial going on, with expanding the TMO involvement. SA and Ireland approved the trial, that World Rugby requested.
@Smith-hl6ms
@Smith-hl6ms 22 дня назад
That not true for start don't make sense at all seen the ref would be running here there for opinions daft
@tristanmaclennan2989
@tristanmaclennan2989 23 дня назад
SA bye 14
@PhillipDawson10
@PhillipDawson10 23 дня назад
I do not always agree with the bomb squad coming on like that. It has a great visual and probably some psychological part to play, but someone like Kolisi and Kwagga was playing well and think needed more game time. Plus it put us in a difficult siutation if we did get some forward injury, as just over half the game was still to play. So a bit of gamble there by Rassie. Would rather have seen Sacha come on earlier and save Pollard for Durban, and get him some extra practice time to sorting out that kicking :-) Let's hope that the quality goes up this week, as they the same team now should have had some time to gel a bit more.
@garethnaude1175
@garethnaude1175 22 дня назад
To say the TMO shouldn’t have come in for a technical call on that Ireland try… who decides that? If the TMO is instructed to review everything in the build up to a try (as instructed for this series), and he spots something, does Nigel really expect him to say: “I spotted what I believe is an infringement and I need the ref to see it, but it’s kinda technical so let’s just skip it.” Seriously????
@johndcoffee632
@johndcoffee632 22 дня назад
So tired of having discussions about refs after games, it's been years of terrible reffing and world rugby does literally nothing about it.
@AntoniusMalan
@AntoniusMalan 23 дня назад
Time to give the Irish some green envy. There is only one Green and Gold! Its the green with the gold🥇
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
There's an Aussie rugby podcast called Green and Gold Rugby too 😅
@AntoniusMalan
@AntoniusMalan 23 дня назад
@@TwoCentsRugby thats blasphemous. 🤐
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
😂
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 23 дня назад
There's SA arrogance fer yous. Cheers for that ; penn kons😊👍
@kristian762
@kristian762 23 дня назад
​@@TwoCentsRugbyplajorism! But ja I was gonna say the Aussies consider themselves to be green and gold too. Although it's more gold and green... in any case, they need to re identify, take some tips from California and transition to simply gold. Or orange.
@greywolf187
@greywolf187 21 день назад
lol
@JRits399
@JRits399 23 дня назад
Boks wining this one for sure.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Unchanged side looking tough!
@KernowekTim
@KernowekTim 23 дня назад
I see us losin' t'morra, but we'll never give up, make excuses after, be smug, arrogant, sly, or stop smilin' an' 'avin craic. And if, by chance, we do win, we will remain true to that😎 🏴‍☠☘
@sdv917
@sdv917 23 дня назад
Don't underestimate the Springboks.
@TwoCentsRugby
@TwoCentsRugby 23 дня назад
Lol I remember this one from last week!
@sdv917
@sdv917 23 дня назад
@@TwoCentsRugby cheers bru enjoy the rugby this weekend!
@Irish780
@Irish780 23 дня назад
Ahhh look Ireland too tired and big guys missing no chance
@someonelastname8175
@someonelastname8175 23 дня назад
that score flattered Ireland, SA made plenty of mistakes as well. SA should take it by 2 scores.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 22 дня назад
Ireland gifted 2 tries and missed kicks. Still only lost by 7.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 21 день назад
😅
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