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SQL or NoSQL? MySQL vs MongoDB? Which database is better? Which one should you use?
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@windar2390
@windar2390 5 лет назад
0:36 SQL 9:00 NoSQL 13:13 Differences
@annyrose4218
@annyrose4218 4 года назад
Thank you for this.
@mohamedjolti572
@mohamedjolti572 4 года назад
this course how to create the same web applcation using node js mongo db and php mysql: www.udemy.com/course/node-js-mongodb-vs-php-mysql-build-the-same-web-application/
@Wenutz
@Wenutz 4 года назад
Not all heros wear capes!
@floatingsaint8493
@floatingsaint8493 4 года назад
U know this is the only useful🙂 comment in the whole comment section
@EduardoSDiaz
@EduardoSDiaz 4 года назад
Thanks bro!
@aleksas_codebook
@aleksas_codebook 3 года назад
I dont think I will ever be grateful enough for Maximilian. This man single-handedly taught me everything from HTML, CSS and basic JavaScript, all the way to Vue and React, Node.js, databases and REST API. Thanks to you I got a highly paying job, and can make anything that comes to my mind. Thank you sir from the bottom of my heart. :)
@rodrigo-xy2cg
@rodrigo-xy2cg 4 года назад
A key concept in this comparative analysis is consistency of information. - SQL (Relational Databases): a good design (scheme and constraints defined correctly and transactions are used properly) allows the database engine to guarantee consistency based on that design. - NoSQL: lower consistency of information (it is a responsibility of the developer to ensure consistency... some time this could be very difficult).
@jamesduncanlinch6322
@jamesduncanlinch6322 3 года назад
Yes that is key, and was not mentioned
@suyuro_
@suyuro_ 6 лет назад
God bless this "vs" videos they are so good.
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
I'm very happy to hear that, thank you so much!
@nicolasazoidis9064
@nicolasazoidis9064 5 лет назад
Man you knowledge base is beyond human scope...really. When i first started learning programming there where many times i coulnd't get you, after learning programming there a lot of times i realize how many miles ahead you are. RESPECT.
@scvscades
@scvscades 3 года назад
Thank you for this! I've been tasked to build a DB, but wasn't sure which type to go with. I tried using MongoDB and I can see where it has it's advantages. After watching this though, an SQL DB is better for our needs.
@mikatu
@mikatu Год назад
The rule is always, when in doubt go for SQL.
@MrAnonimR
@MrAnonimR 4 года назад
Hi, thank you for putting the effort and time to explain in such understandable way the differences between SQL and NoSQL. I appreciate your effort ! Good Luck!
@akmalatkhamov8760
@akmalatkhamov8760 5 лет назад
Tremendous explanation. I have spent 3 days reading tons of information about differences between SQL and NoSQL, and have understood less than I expected, but this video made everything straightforward. Thanks to the author! Great work!
@academind
@academind 5 лет назад
Happy to read that the video helped to make things clearer, thank you Akmal!
@Relsig89
@Relsig89 4 года назад
Horizontally scaling SQL isn't very difficult but it requires a backend to do some extra work behind the scenes (which isn't terribly hard to program). Implemented properly and under certain conditions it can be slightly faster than NoSQL. You can use Schemas with NoSQL, see tools like Mongoose. Mongoose also makes relations very easy with the populate function. If the data isn't likely to change frequently it would still be better to just nest the data you need and update it as needed for speed though. So SQL horizontal scaling: possible but more difficult than NoSQL. NoSQL: Schema-optional with reverse-compatible changes via some well documented apis Aside from those excellent video
@bnmvbn654
@bnmvbn654 6 лет назад
This is hands down the most concise and relatable explanation of a SQL-like database vs a NoSQL-like database I have ever seen. Random tips: -A good intro to SQL is reading Chapter 2 of the official PostgreSql manual. -As a frontend dev, it's easier to "pick up" NoSQL. Since NoSQL is literally a folder of JSON files that you can search(query) through. -But, it's easy to dig yourself into a hole if you duplicate your data in several locations and then need to update that same piece of data. -You can also hurt yourself when your not consistent with your property names. For example "first name" can be found as "f_name" or "firstName" in your NoSQL database -Just be careful, and very consistent when using NoSQL. For total beginners, I recommend to go with SQL and then migrate to NoSQL if needed. Think of SQL-databases as a really powerful sportbike motorcycle with really good training wheels. It's safe and you probably won't outride the bike.
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot for your wonderful feedback and for providing the additional resources, I really appreciate both :)
@janina_1412_
@janina_1412_ 4 года назад
Thank you for the great explanation! I've been looking up a lot of information about databases and this is by far the best and most helpful video!
@krookCricbuzz
@krookCricbuzz 4 года назад
More Mongo Db ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U2QUb0gDkKQ.html
@fabriziodutto7508
@fabriziodutto7508 3 года назад
There are special commands so called "choins" @8:31 :-) I really love this german accent! Thank you for this comparison, very interesting and complete.
@osvaldoguzman3115
@osvaldoguzman3115 5 лет назад
Another important thing to consider for SQL databases is the amount of time conceptualizing a SQL database takes. For an effective SQL db you need a proper ERR Diagram and schema that takes into consideration a ton of user interactions. One wrong step at the conceptualization phase and your whole relational system breaks. Similarly, the modification anomalies that may come from NoSQL can break your db, but to a more manageable extent IMO. When agile development reigns king, quick development with short conceptualizing phases means your better off with NoSQL despite the downside to writing-heavy applications. What do you all think?
@colinlee789
@colinlee789 3 года назад
This is the most clear explanation of SQL and NoSQL on RU-vid.
@oubrioko
@oubrioko 5 лет назад
Horizontal scaling (also called _scaling-out_ ) is challenging and can be inherently inefficient with a _shared-nothing_ SQL database like MySQL, as mentioned in the video. However, there *are* indeed _shared-storage_ SQL databases that are designed to dynamically scale-out (horizontal scale) seamlessly. This is accomplished by replicating the database _structure_ on each server node, but with virtual programmatic pointers in each table, rather than the actual rows (records) of data themselves. These pointers point to corresponding table structures on distributed Storage Area Networks (SANs) that contain the actual rows of table data. Given this complexity, an enterprise-grade dynamically scalable shared-storage SQL database solution like Oracle 18c is very expensive to acquire, implement, administer and support. During the mid-2000s, Larry Ellison used to love to brag about the horizontal scaling capability of Oracle's shared-storage SQL offerings verses IBM's DB2 shared-nothing SQL database.
@communitycollegegenius9684
@communitycollegegenius9684 2 года назад
I learned a lot from this video. I am now prepared for the conference call and will drop some wertical scaling on them.
@grantharmer7110
@grantharmer7110 5 лет назад
Great video. One of the other key things SQL databases tend to have over NoSQ databases are transactions. i.e. ACID (Atomicity, Consistency, Isolation, Durability) support. But, there is an argument that, if you structure your NoSQL documents well, ACID is not needed
@shutterradio
@shutterradio 4 года назад
Brilliant explanation! I have a feeling that I can learn anything by watching your courses!
@mbramante
@mbramante 4 года назад
I really like this video with one singular exception. When discussing relational databases at 1:48 minutes into this video the narrator says: "The database we typically use is a relational database that means we have a database which works with certain assumptions". No other mention or explanation is given for this. Also there is never a mention of NoSQL databases working "with certain assumptions". I've designed/modeled and built relational databases for 19 years. I base every relational database design on one thing: Rigorous due diligence in requirements discovery and analysis. This means: 1) Requirements 2) All the requirements 3) Nothing but the requirements The one thing I NEVER base my relational designs on is "assumptions". No good relational database design should ever be based on assumptions.
@gregborbonus4122
@gregborbonus4122 4 года назад
The assumptions being made are within the database architecture. Such as assuming every user has a product id(for building out keys and references) so when you act on those relations, SQL engine expects corresponding data in other table(foreign keys as an example)
@desertpillar5286
@desertpillar5286 4 года назад
Thanks for a great general comparison... I know this is old, but thought I'd mention one thing that I think is overlooked in this video although technically correct. Specifically regarding relations and schema consistency. While you are correct in saying that it is not directly supported in Mongo, this responsibility is instead handed over to the ORM layer. Typically, at least in Rails with Active Record, you add all the schema enforcements and relational requirements in that layer instead. By doing that you eliminate most of the downsides you mention regarding data consistency. One other key feature that I think should be mentioned too is that you can create much more advanced data structures in the documents themselves. This is a very simple example, but lets say you wanted to quickly wanted to know which users ordered a specific product. One way to solve that would be to have an array of user_ids on the product collection which essentially acts as a has_many relationship. When displaying products you could easily describe how many users bought this product and even show if friends of the user bought the product (provided you have a collection for that data too). Maybe a stupid example, but hopefully you get the idea. I would say that the biggest downside to using mongo is if you have a lot of requirements to run group by queries. Although it is possible in mongo with aggregations, it is not as straight forward. For me, unless I'm writing a banking application, I would select mongo for every web application I would build. :)
@cancer10in
@cancer10in 6 лет назад
You have explained it very nicely Max. Cheers!
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
That's really great to read Soubhik, thank you very much!
@mza1409
@mza1409 6 лет назад
Will this video get a sequel?😂
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
I see what you did there :D
@filcondrat
@filcondrat 6 лет назад
web witticism development
@6884
@6884 6 лет назад
where is the NUCLEAR BAN button here??
@colinmaharaj
@colinmaharaj 6 лет назад
I will JOIN you there in that QUERY.
@jded1346
@jded1346 5 лет назад
NoSequel :)
@TheRFracer
@TheRFracer 2 года назад
Your ability to teach, explain things is absolutly awesome. Im watching a lot of diffrent famous IT youtubers but your content is gold and definitly the best. You probably created more IT devs than any university of the world ;)
@academind
@academind 2 года назад
That's awesome to hear, really means a lot to me! Thank you so much! :)
@Nikolaik7777
@Nikolaik7777 4 года назад
In terms of RDBMS a "relation" actually means a table (because it stores rows of "related data" - that is structured records vs just a bunch of values). What he calls "relations" are properly called "foreign key constraints".
@dariolimatola386
@dariolimatola386 4 года назад
Thank you! I was just about to write it
@mcdonaldsonechendu5644
@mcdonaldsonechendu5644 2 года назад
Definitely needed this! I've hear NoSQL was faster than SQL, so it seemed very attractive. But most of my projects rely on the integrity of the data shared across different Models. This video has persuaded me to stick with SQL lol. The fact that updating one NoSQL Collection has no affect on linked Collections is a big downside. Thanks 👌👌
@gabe4338
@gabe4338 Год назад
The thing is: You need a place where your relation rules live. In a sql database this is (in my experience) both: There are some relations in the db but they get ignored more and more, because they are difficult to manage and so more and more of the rules just live in the (hopefully single!) backend that reads and writes from the db. In NoSql you just keep everything in the code. But yes: Mongo is not the solution to everything, you still need to make a good concept. But if you're not doing waterfall, your schema will definetly change over time and this is a lot easier with mongo.
@mysterria_com
@mysterria_com 5 лет назад
It's actually not about SQL vs NoSQL but relational vs non-relational. SQL databases come with a lot of constraint and behaviors (triggers) and if your data is highly relational, you will have an advantage using SQL databases maintaining your data structural integrity. On the other hand NoSQL databases are very restricted in relational integrity enforcement tools, but they are faster, easier to operate and learn and are very convenient for specific tasks. In general, use relational database if you're not sure which type of DB to go with. It might require some extra planning but won't lead you to data integrity issues and migration to NonSQL will be mush easier. At the point you face the need of sharding you will surely be well aware of what type of DB you need and how to shard your data well. So I'd not worry about scaling at this point.
@researchandbuild1751
@researchandbuild1751 4 года назад
NoSQL is just a serialized dictionary for lazy programmers that would rather write schema in code than come up with table structures and normalize them...
@gregkrakow872
@gregkrakow872 4 года назад
I have used both SQL and NoSQL databases for decades and favored NoSQL until about 10 years ago when I discovered the incredible power of data analysis using SQL. I found that hundreds of lines of complex Python code manipulating data tables could be reduced into a few simple lines of SQL joins and aggregations.
@PetarLuketina
@PetarLuketina 6 лет назад
Wow, this is a great information. As a beginning SQL learner, I got a good chunk of knowledge from your video. Thank you!
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
That's really cool to read Petar, thank you very much for your great feedback!
@AlamKhan-yt9wd
@AlamKhan-yt9wd 4 года назад
Thank you soooooooooooooooo much. Finally understand, it's not necessary to use MySql with PHP & MongoDB with NodeJS. Both the database has difference perspective depending on the scaling, reading/ writing, updating & relation factors.
@raulbarriga7416
@raulbarriga7416 2 года назад
Good thing I found this video, and from a web developer/full stack RU-vidr. Needed to see which sql to choose to learn.
@yunli1333
@yunli1333 5 лет назад
19:00 summary is pretty solid.
@samislam2746
@samislam2746 2 года назад
13:00 you can save the user id in the user field of the orders collection, and when you query the orders collection, you populate the user field. this way the data does not get duplicated, it works just like a relation
@JohnWeland
@JohnWeland 6 лет назад
We use an SQL database at work specifically PostgreSQL. Our "rules" for our schema all tables need a primary key as a sequence that is either called seq or id. If that tables p_key is not referenced in another table we call it seq if another table does use it, its called id so a user table would have a column id, then on the table referencing there would be a sequence and a column called user_id. All of out many to many tables we call tablename_xref (xref for cross-reference) so just looking at the database it makes a ton of sense. we also add control columns on every table prefixed with ctl we have an insert user, insert time, update user, update time the times are stored as dttm (time with timezone). any anytime a user inserts data or updates data its reflected in the control columns.
@mobassirshamim3947
@mobassirshamim3947 6 лет назад
👍🏻
@tomazkoritnik4072
@tomazkoritnik4072 6 лет назад
Namig them seq or id doesn't make any sense. First, you're using two names for the same thing: object identification. Second, when your table has seq and you have a need in the future to reference it, you need to change the code and schema. Third, goes together with first, you're mixing the concerns by putting higher structure information into entities and this is bad because it introduces coupling.
@guolunli1908
@guolunli1908 2 года назад
This is the best introduction to the difference between SQL v.s. NoSQL databases on RU-vid. No wonder why this video gets near 2M views.
@liquidpebbles
@liquidpebbles 5 лет назад
I tried to get into NoSQL and every time I did I basically ended up creating a system and imposing schemas and basically just making it a somewhat messy SQL style db.
@dewinchy
@dewinchy 4 года назад
Really thanks for sharing, now I finally understand the difference. Some hints: horizontal scaling for SQL is possible (at least for MySQL and Oracle), of course it's trickier than the vertical scaling. The use of the same colors for SQL/NoSQL and Horizontal/Vertical Scaling is a bit confusing.
@jamesduncanlinch6322
@jamesduncanlinch6322 3 года назад
Yes and more limited. For example oracle RAC depend on shared storage in some cases. Mongo is designed for clustering.
@goodvibesonly926
@goodvibesonly926 4 года назад
Great video 👍 Could you maybe have a part 2 of this that provide practical examples, eg. Pointing out a few tech companies that are using different type of DBMS and how do they store or work with their current data. For a fresh graduate like me that do not have industry experience, it will give some insights when searching for job roles
@samislam2746
@samislam2746 2 года назад
and talking the presentation of data and visualizing it (for us, developers), both nosql and sql data can be represented as tables with columns and rows, this makes it simpler for the eyes to see and read.
@vinny142
@vinny142 5 лет назад
"Which database is better? Which one should you use? " PostgreSQL. That has a JSONB type whic means you can store Json documents and query them, and it has all the required features of a database: transactions, replication etc. Plus it has a large number of free extensions that enable you to connect it to mysql or oracle or even an XML or CSV file as a data source. PostgreSQL exlipses the abilities of MySQL, really, and it's also free.
@bakatoroi
@bakatoroi 5 лет назад
What would you say are the major advantages of PostreSQL over MariaDB/MySQL? I'm just starting researching about them and just comparing their DATE fields makes me believe PostreSQL is much better but I'd love it if you could share more info.
@oida10000
@oida10000 5 лет назад
@@bakatoroi postgresSQL supports recursive querys and nosql features.
@barronanderson382
@barronanderson382 5 лет назад
PostgreSQL is a RDBMS and as such does not scale horizontal. If you require the performance of 10,000 concurrent servers you need a solution which scales horizontally. PostgreSQL is a nice RDBMS solution, I am not knocking it.
@cruisniq
@cruisniq 5 лет назад
It really does depend on your line of work as to which type of database to use. In my line of work, 95% of the time you would use a no-SQL type such as Elasticsearch. But, as he mentioned, something like an order database, you would be better off using either SQL or an hybrid approach.
@TheDragonlove1
@TheDragonlove1 6 лет назад
Relations = Tables (Product Table) Relationship = Relationship (One to One) Relation != Relationship that's the db language as we learnt it from our teachers
@theopeterbroers819
@theopeterbroers819 4 года назад
This video disregards any and all relational theory. SQL is not the same language as Sequel. Both languages are interfaces to the database, not the thing itself. What do tables (correctly: relations) have to do with containers? Containers are like waste baskets. Tables are linked to each other through constraints, not "tables" through "relations". Rows or records are remnants from earlier database models, like Codasyl. We say tuples now. And I could only make it to 5:40. Better info here (I just googled this site): www.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/sql/Relational_Database_Design.html
@LifeIsGood1992
@LifeIsGood1992 5 лет назад
Thank you , To make it short : if you want more data customization use sql , and if you will do an archive-ish data (read and write a lot with rare update )use no sql
@snnwstt
@snnwstt 5 лет назад
Well, even for archive, who forbid to use a different field name, or attribute key name and doing so, as example, miss the criminal records of a multi-recidivist because these records were archived under another field name? What good is such an "archive" ?
@kbor8491
@kbor8491 5 лет назад
It means "not only sql" (= noSql,) but not NO sql at all
@TheInfi
@TheInfi 4 года назад
@-.- Cat or just Mongoose, if JavaScript.
@MarkKevinBesingaWebDev
@MarkKevinBesingaWebDev 3 года назад
dynamodb has some structure so its not only.
@matteodalmasso8915
@matteodalmasso8915 5 лет назад
Your video let people easily understand this kind of stuff that is not easy at all. My compliment for the clarity of your communication, well-done video! If you allow me, I just don't "agree" about the word "impossible" in horizontal scaling an RDMS. Modern relational DB can have good, fast and efficient horizontal scaling as well (Multitenant with shards, connection routing based and read/write routing base for example) when used with some cluster manager like Galera or MaxScale. I agree that is not an easy implementation and can have some deadly pitfalls such as high costs, set up complexity, weak schema design.
@gregborbonus4122
@gregborbonus4122 4 года назад
Great video. I would add that with federated tables, json queries and so on, SQL is quite capable of doing everything you mentioned in a noSQL setup, but the cost is overhead. Ive never seen an instance where I couldn't horizontally scale an SQL database. Can you provide any examples of this?
@bobslave7063
@bobslave7063 2 года назад
Greenplum DB
@rprantoine
@rprantoine 3 года назад
Great video! Thanks for it. I would change the colors on the slide about horizontal/vertical scaling though. They are the same as when comparing SQL and NoSQL, and could lead to confusion, letting people assume Horizontal Scaling = SQL and Vertical Scaling = NoSQL
@smanihwr
@smanihwr 6 лет назад
Thanks for this video Max!! Comparison slide was more helpful.
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
Thanks for your nice and helpful feedback!
@CodeSbyAniz
@CodeSbyAniz 4 года назад
I have watched a BUNCH of videos on this subject and this was the best one by far. THANK YOU!
@jonathanaina4940
@jonathanaina4940 5 лет назад
Good video, but sounds like you are a pro NoSQL. However the disadvantages of SQL stated are not entirely true as scalable distributed framework becomes more developed. With the structure and reliability of MySQL and the high scalability of Hadoop and performance improvement offered by both worlds, what you get is a powerful Relational, very reliable, less messy database. NoSQL is great but I just hope the looseness doesn't over complicate an already complicated ecosystem. Some of the relatively poor designs of the Internet is still causing a lot of problem currently. Overall "All Models are wrong, but some are useful"
@EqualConnectCoach
@EqualConnectCoach 5 лет назад
Agreed
@gregorymoore2877
@gregorymoore2877 Месяц назад
For somebody who is "pro NoSQL" he sure made SQL sound like the clear winner for most things.
@markololic8967
@markololic8967 2 года назад
I've watched a handful of videos explaining this and this was by far the best, great video.
@whatsap6851
@whatsap6851 2 года назад
Helpline📲📥⬆️ Questions can come in⬆️
@Женя-р8ц3й
@Женя-р8ц3й 4 года назад
thank you man!!! You are the best in this theme!
@Loppy2345
@Loppy2345 4 года назад
This is one of the few "VS" questions that really is useful, it comes up all the time in job interviews.
@billsantamaria1
@billsantamaria1 3 года назад
I like most of the description here since I was trying to better understand the NoSQL standpoint. However, I do want to point out that not all SQL implementations are limited on horizontal scaling. Oracle DB since 10g (and better since 11g) has the ability to RAC scale horizontally and keep the data synched between nodes (servers). You do have to properly design the data distribution for such a setup, but when properly designed there is little to no limitations on scale.
@CaptainSuperX
@CaptainSuperX 5 лет назад
A very important difference that is not mentioned in this video is transaction.
@KeyhanHadjari
@KeyhanHadjari 4 года назад
Mongo supports transactions from version 4.
@thabo5799
@thabo5799 4 года назад
@@KeyhanHadjari It does, but only for one object... still pretty bad.
@ritsukasa
@ritsukasa 4 года назад
exactly, very important, omited completely.
@neilbradley100
@neilbradley100 4 года назад
@@thabo5799 MarkLogic has supported multi-document ACID transcations since version 1 (it is now at version 10), and this is indeed still very unusual in NoSQL databases
@arbdistress5592
@arbdistress5592 3 года назад
Yes To me single object transaction is simply no transaction.. it is just atomic document "save". Transaction is two or more changes they are either all done or nothing done.
@dust2dust61
@dust2dust61 4 года назад
Just amazing, the way you described both of those database system, really saved me a tons of time surfing through out the internet and reading tons of materials. Thank you so much.
@bartlomiej-bak
@bartlomiej-bak 6 лет назад
And one more comment about scaling. Horizontal scaling is possible in SQL world. Many servers offers 'replication', MS SQL Server offers also linked servers and so on. MySQL offers Clusters. So saying that in sql world only vertical scaling is possible is not 100% correct. Performance of the queries can be improved by indexes but also sql servers optimizes queries to be the most efficient. Also mysql offers few engines, eg. myisam with very limited functionality but very fast, and innodb which can be very strict and safe, but reduces performance. Additional question is which kind of database will require more hardware resources sooner, sql keeping just one entity of the data, or nosql storing same data multiple times ? ;)
@FrostSpike
@FrostSpike 6 лет назад
Massively Parallel Processing (MPP) databases too especially for OLAP/Data Warehousing use cases; Teradata, EMC/Greenplum, AWS RedShift, (the database formerly known as) Microsoft Parallel Data Warehouse, Exasol, and Oracle Exadata (at least to some extent with push down filter parallelism in the storage arrays).
@bartlomiej-bak
@bartlomiej-bak 6 лет назад
hehe, good answer, but I think we are talking about different level ;) You mentioned about very advanced solutions, which are very expensive as well. That video, imho, was more for beginners than for senior database architects :) but, you are 100% right, we can also mention about IBM DB2 which is/was, I don't know if that db is still maintain or not, object oriented database, RDBMS of course.
@hoaaahtube
@hoaaahtube 6 лет назад
I strongly agree with this. Horizontal scalling in SQL world is possible, and not too difficult to implement. This videos have said it, vertical scalling have limitations, so developer often use replication as a solution to boost performance. In some case horizontal scalling are cheaper than vertical scalling.
@BW022
@BW022 6 лет назад
Horizontal scaling on a SQL database is also possible merely through switching databases or hardware. You can easily start off with housing it inside something like XML or dBase using ADO for a simply desktop or low-traffic web application. Then switch out the database to say MySQL. Then MS SQL Server. Then move it onto an 8 core monster with 64GB of RAM and RAID'd SSDs. All this before you need to look at clustering.
@johnmadsen37
@johnmadsen37 6 лет назад
Bartłomiej Bąk yeah. I had just finished writing this guy is a fucking idiot.
@felipemedina2279
@felipemedina2279 4 года назад
Great! This content helped me a lot to decide wich db I have to learn now. Thank you bro, hugs from Brazil
@maxnaiir
@maxnaiir 6 лет назад
just was wondering about this topic and bam!!! the notification, sql vs nosql.. .. thanx max
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
Guess that was kind of the right timing for you then, so cool to read that :)
@akramchebli
@akramchebli 3 года назад
My school paper just got a bit smarter because of you. Thanks!
@ConsulthinkProgrammer
@ConsulthinkProgrammer 3 года назад
Try this for some additional reference ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-enUGXYMk6C8.html
@vionel3493
@vionel3493 5 лет назад
Well people, just don't be confused with this incorrect description of SQL horizontal scaling possibilities, it explained here completely wrong. SQL scaling very good and not hard at all last several years, just use correct DB for your purpose.
@snnwstt
@snnwstt 5 лет назад
Indeed. And furthermore, the presenter forgot about VIEWS, in SQL, which can act like a collection (the data seems already merged, and it is quite fast since it is done through indexing) in addition to be eventually dynamic too (if a value change in a table implied by the view, refreshing the record will automatically update the view). I fail to see how a NoSQL approach can index your stuff. It looks to me like having to find "who" has the telephone number 123-4567 when all I have is a phone book on paper, where the phone numbers are listed in order of the owner (from A to Z). I would have to walk through all the entries, one by one?
@EqualConnectCoach
@EqualConnectCoach 5 лет назад
If u want add column in Deb then have to stop ur process then only can add but this doesn't applicable for nosql
@vionel3493
@vionel3493 5 лет назад
This doesn't relate to what I said above about scaling.
@MaqsoodAlamShafiq
@MaqsoodAlamShafiq 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing a very elaborated comparison of SQL vs NoSQL. At 19:46 of the video you mention we can face issues if DB becomes really really big. I have a some questions here: 1- What are the issues and which DBMS is favored? 2- Can you give an idea in terms of Gigabytes or number of records where we start thinking its becoming really really big? 3- Which one is easier for writing code for CRUD ops ?
@brunocarvalho5578
@brunocarvalho5578 6 лет назад
Thank you! Helped me alot! I was struggling to decide which one I would use in my project because I don't knew these core differences and concepts. (I really enjoy and understand most of what you teach and that's the reason why I bought some of your courses, even that english it's not my first language)
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot for your awesome feedback Bruno, happy to read that the video was helpful for you! Thanks a lot also for your support, great to have you on board here and on Udemy :)
@prabalhalder2692
@prabalhalder2692 5 лет назад
Excellent video for people planning to move from SQL to No-SQL world. Concise and to-the-point comparison.
@academind
@academind 5 лет назад
Thank you very much Prabal!
@khalidelgazzar
@khalidelgazzar 5 лет назад
Thank you very much Max for explaining deep topics in simple and easy way
@mohamedjolti572
@mohamedjolti572 4 года назад
this course how to create the same web applcation using node js mongo db and php mysql: www.udemy.com/course/node-js-mongodb-vs-php-mysql-build-the-same-web-application/
@leathernluv
@leathernluv 4 года назад
SELECT location FROM places WHERE name = Waldo Joking aside, here's a summary from a retail perspective: SQL: user/supply tables that are fluid. NOSQL: order/purchase data that are concrete history Your app pulls up the purchaser/supplier from SQL (change in addy, change of name, change in credit), and then the complete exchange history from NOSQL.
@jeffersonribeiro1669
@jeffersonribeiro1669 6 лет назад
Off topic: I did the Complete React Course from this amazing dude and its great!
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
Thank you for your support here and on Udemy Jefferson! It really makes me happy to read that you enjoyed the React course :)
@lardosian
@lardosian 5 лет назад
The burger builder course? I have to get around to that as well. The way packages change so much these days does this cause any issues. Im sure Max has this covered though.
@degraphe8824
@degraphe8824 4 года назад
That course started off my coding career and got me lots of jobs Thank you Academind!!!!!!!!
@antonkarpovich4201
@antonkarpovich4201 3 года назад
Just an amazing explanation! Thank you for such a wide and comprehensive comparison.
@RickoDeSea
@RickoDeSea 5 лет назад
I struggled to learn database until this tutorial. Thanks alot.
@RsnRom
@RsnRom 3 года назад
That is impressive and very clear explained. Even I am not native English speaker, I have understood everything. Would like to see more from you
@vangxbg
@vangxbg 5 лет назад
amazing. I finally understand now.
@TorBruheim
@TorBruheim 5 лет назад
I will remind you that a SQL database is a term, not just a language. A SQL database is a database engine created to perform queries from tables. Today we have: 1) Tables only. These tables can me hooked up from different engines. 2) Tables + the engine The engine itself must be ready for relational bindings between tables, and ready to perform queries from all the tables.
@mijmijrm
@mijmijrm 5 лет назад
how about comparison in terms of clarity, reliability, maintainability of code for the two types of db? (my gut says the flexibility of nosql implies more sophisticated/complex code implies reduced clarity, greater likelihood of bugs, etc .. but .. my gut is not a reliable source of info.)
@snnwstt
@snnwstt 5 лет назад
NoSQL sounds like a big unstructured Excel spreadsheet where anyone can dump anything into a new row, inserted anywhere.
@Eddy-ly2ml
@Eddy-ly2ml 3 года назад
2 years later from this video update and its super nice to hear all this information!
@MrDevianceh
@MrDevianceh 6 лет назад
Now do Graph databases like Neo4j or Multi-model databases like ArangoDB
@pandabrain
@pandabrain 3 года назад
I like the nosql example for orders. It shows how nosql can easily retain historical data. When a product is changed, then a customer who ordered in the past, didn't actually buy the updated product. The order still shows the product how it was at the time of ordering.
@hahmadzai23
@hahmadzai23 5 лет назад
Appreciate the breakdown!
@bensmith6987
@bensmith6987 3 года назад
Quite clear and smooth explanations. Much appreciated. Looking into taking your MongoDB course in the near future.
@shin202j
@shin202j 5 лет назад
like your clear pronunciation
@MrAt0g
@MrAt0g 5 лет назад
Good explanation. It's worth mentioning that retrieving the price of products within an order by a relation is not desirable - the product price can change, while the price in the of an existing order line item should not
@supa1009
@supa1009 5 лет назад
wow, this was an amazing tutorial. Thank you very much sir!
@zeocamo
@zeocamo 4 года назад
schema-less is best here, if the field is not there it is the same as null in the other world, but without a schema the database is easy to update when you get a new version of you program
@wildrap9804
@wildrap9804 4 года назад
For complicated ERD, use SQL, For a simple database, use NoSQL (Firebase, MongoDB, etc..)
@fy7589
@fy7589 6 лет назад
You can sure use NoSQL for storing different kinds of data and use structured links to that data with using SQL. Or you can just add a text field to store json format inside the SQL database to make it act like NoSQL. I'd suggest using SQL with Text fields to store jason format data with many multiple and each different sub fields to access. It is just easier and you won't need two database installations taxing your hardware.
@tuneup6
@tuneup6 6 лет назад
I can tell you as a data analyst not organizing your data should be a punishable crime. Websites gather lots of data which is important to the business it is supporting. Without proper organization there is no practical way to use the information in any databases you create as reliable business tools. I work very hard every day just gathering haphazardly stored data into hopefully meaningful reporting with mixed results. Please whatever data storage technology you choose please consider how that data can be retrieved and used to inform the underlying business. This should not be an afterthought but it almost always is.
@UnderappreciatedTechies
@UnderappreciatedTechies 5 лет назад
As is often stated, the unwashed will accept "garbage in, gospel out". They expect the data expert to perform magic and miracles.
@farwanqv
@farwanqv 5 лет назад
I can totally relate to your situation.
@elspethstetson-gumper2666
@elspethstetson-gumper2666 5 лет назад
Good rule of thumb for coders - write your code as if the next person that has to support it is a homicidal maniac who knows where you live.
@joinCENAtion
@joinCENAtion 5 лет назад
I am working my way through your Udemy course for MongoDB and it is amazing and I am learning a lot and really enjoying it
@northshorepx
@northshorepx 5 лет назад
@Chris09 what kind of things did you learn?
@bartlomiej-bak
@bartlomiej-bak 6 лет назад
Maybe I'm wrong but I think few things needs to be clarified, or at least discussed ;) 1. In SQL world 'relation' it's a synonym of 'table', connection between tables is called 'relationship', so all 'relations' from the video are 'relationships'. 2. Typical sql server like mysql, mariadb or so does not allow many-to-many relationships; That one shown in 5:09 is not many-to-many, there are two relationships one-to-many. Some languages, eg. C# or Java, allows to manage many-to-many relationships, but there are not done on sql server side.
@richardpaulhall
@richardpaulhall 6 лет назад
No. The two regular tables connected by a relationship table is a man-to-many rerlationship. You can have a group ordering a product or a bunch of products
@bartlomiej-bak
@bartlomiej-bak 6 лет назад
That's a bit academic talking. Imho, for sql server there are two one-to-many relationships. In the same way you can say that mysql/mariadb can store xml or objects. Of course it can, if you serialize them into string. MySQL knows `text` type but it has nothing common with xml support. MS SQL Server or postgresql have support for xml. There is a special type for it. Another example, GIS coordinates. Postgresql has special types for it. In mariadb you can store those coordinates as well. Again, as serialized array or bunch of columns, but is it 'support' for GIS things in mariadb? imho, it's not. You can handle it from application, not db server.
@benouattara6249
@benouattara6249 5 лет назад
that is simple: you write in sql then create an api that load from sql then write in Nosql and finally only read from nosql
@hiryuimajin
@hiryuimajin 5 лет назад
or on an excel then concatenate to write as a nosql
@itskittyme
@itskittyme 4 года назад
You convinced me: I'm going to stick to SQL.
@SkiNNyPoNNy
@SkiNNyPoNNy 4 года назад
Why?
@alexisnarvaez
@alexisnarvaez 4 года назад
​@@SkiNNyPoNNy Good reasons metioned here: www.wix.engineering/post/scaling-to-100m-mysql-is-a-better-nosql
@tno2007
@tno2007 4 года назад
SQL databases is simpler to work with, but it does not mean its optimized for huge data storage and retrieval. The world's largest data stores (banks, hospitals etc) is stored in NoSQL databases. Also, NoSQL technology is nothing new, it was used before SQL databases were invented.
@slapmyfunkybass
@slapmyfunkybass 4 года назад
@@tno2007 Who are you kidding? The world’s largest data stores certainly don’t use NoSql, in fact it’s the opposite, it’s based on a very strict schema set up, virtually preventing any form of error data input. They certainly would not use NoSql and neither would it be recommended. Databases have been around since the 70’s, before computers made their way into the office, most large corporations still use Oracle.
@eduardoaranda4379
@eduardoaranda4379 3 года назад
Yeah. You can always have a redis cache
@rbelatamas
@rbelatamas 4 года назад
Really, really, good, clear description!!! Thank you so much!
@saidheeraj1760
@saidheeraj1760 4 года назад
Didn't expect to get this with one video. You did it man. Keep going ✌️
@nikitaantonenko3287
@nikitaantonenko3287 5 лет назад
Thank you so much!) Great explanation))
@exact-itacademy1282
@exact-itacademy1282 5 лет назад
This video is great. I like it. I 'm using mysql for 5 years now and when I heard for the first time about nosql, I didn't actually understand the way it wa structured, today I found out with this very video. thanks
@academind
@academind 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot for this great feedback Mukinayi, happy to read that the video was helpful for you!
@michalg4431
@michalg4431 3 года назад
School or no school?
@TheMaxie07
@TheMaxie07 4 года назад
It's so unfair dislike/thumb-down this resourceful video. Its 2020 and its so valid..Thank you.
@jonnyjazzz
@jonnyjazzz 4 года назад
Hey! I recognize your voice from my React Udemy course! Great job, sir! I highly recommend his courses on Udemy!
@academind
@academind 4 года назад
Happy to read that Jonny, thanks a lot for your great feedback!
@freefireflow286
@freefireflow286 4 года назад
@@academind Name of the course. I mean react one
@arieltabuzojr2434
@arieltabuzojr2434 4 года назад
True I tried other Courses but Academind Courses are worth the buck because they're really building real projects with the courses.
@mailtochung
@mailtochung 5 лет назад
This video explains the basic difference, there are few points I want to add: 1. NoSQL is more intuitive in real life. Think about a patient filling up a form in a clinic. SQL needs to break the data down into few tables, set all the columns and check all the types to process it. but NOSQL just save the whole document into the collection. It can be a complicated structure with array and nested obj in the document. This is the idea of row based vs document based. I found that I have saved lots of time of dealing with the database structure in SQL. That makes my development more effective. But of course, you need to know what you are doing or you will mess it up. 2. A major factor of choosing is what language you use in your service layer. If you use Node.JS (this is the most famouse one now), very high chance you will choose NoSQL becuase it just work so great together. The data you store and the object you process in Node is exactly the same (JSON)! This just save lots of conversion and mapping work. 3. Most of the people using MongoDB will define a schema on top of it, so that schema-less selling points just go away. But it is still a lot easier to modify the schema. You don't need ALTER statement to alter the table. That's save lots of hassle in deploying a new version. 4. The more experience I get with NoSQL, the more I realise how much it can replace SQL. It looks messy and you won't feel good in the beginning. But it's just the other way of organizing your data. You will have less relationship, and your relation join will be happening in the service layer. But if you are doing highly transaction application (Like a bank or payment stuff), you should still use SQL. The way you can open transaction, commit it, or roll back. You can never do this so well in NOSQL because of it's nature of lacking relationships across documents and collections.
@woshikakadong
@woshikakadong 5 лет назад
nice points, thank you
@annaphuong3260
@annaphuong3260 5 лет назад
thank you!
@joelmason6818
@joelmason6818 5 лет назад
If it were me, I would use the nosql approach but create my own relational structure. With various operations, you would either display some information or store some information. The function called for either purpose would be specifically curtailed to do the task efficiently, even across multiple collections. With this approach you get the speed and flexibility of a json based database, but you also get the regimentation necessary for succinct correlation. An alternative is the use of json strings within a SQL db. No reason whatsoever you ant store a json collection in a field within MySQL for instance.
@joelmason6818
@joelmason6818 5 лет назад
Take the roles example. No reason this can't be an array of roles within the user roll column consisting of 1 or many roles. SQL can use this just as effectively as a 1 to 1 comparison, but you kind of need to be a SQL expert to do it. Lol
@임창수-c7c
@임창수-c7c 6 лет назад
Database course plz
@academind
@academind 6 лет назад
No concrete plans to create one at the moment, but this might of course change in the future :)
@TheAkbar1000
@TheAkbar1000 5 лет назад
Thanks for the quick overview... I really needed that!
@prajwal2005
@prajwal2005 5 лет назад
Thank you! Just what I was searching for 🤸
@rcso2010
@rcso2010 4 года назад
Years ago I took a course of ObjectStore, it's like NoSQL where you store objects like in memory but in a object database.
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