Squaring The Circle (feat. James Grime) - Objectivity 171

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Dr James Grime joins us at The Royal Society to look at all manner of things from secret codes to fancy objects... More links below ↓↓↓
Featuring Dr James Grime speaking with Brady and Keith Moore.
Accompanying documents: www.bradyharanblog.com/blog/squaring-the-circle-the-documents
Squaring the circle: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CMP9a2J4Bqw.html
White Gloves of Destiny: bit.ly/White_Gloves
Check out Numberphile: ru-vid.com
Objectivity on Patreon: www.patreon.com/objectivity
Subscribe to Objectivity: bit.ly/Objectivity_Sub
Films by James Hennessy and Brady Haran
Royal Society website: bit.ly/Royal_Society
The Royal Society's own RU-vid channel: ru-vid.com
Facebook: ObjectivityVideos
Twitter: objectivity_vid
Patron thank you page: www.bradyharanblog.com/objectivity-patrons
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@ObjectivityVideos 6 лет назад

By popular demand, some accompanying documents can be found here: www.bradyharanblog.com/blog/squaring-the-circle-the-documents

@steffen5121 6 лет назад

Slimzie Maygen Haha. I've seen this "proof" before.

@steffen5121 6 лет назад

Objectivity. I would love to have a mathematician go over this "proof" (in these documents) on Numberphile. It surly would be a great educational video on how to do proper math. Thanks.

@X_Baron 6 лет назад

So, if things don't add up, just re-define the value of Pi to suit your needs and voilà.

@ffggddss 5 лет назад

@Slimzie Maygen "Change the value of Pi to suit your needs and the task is completed." Why didn't we think of that before? So we could just change the value of 3 if we need to. Or 10. Or 1. Why, there's a whole new mathematics out there!!! Fred

@O-Kyklop 5 лет назад

@Slimzie Maygen *Circumference of circle and the shortest edge length of the mentioned Kepler right triangle are both equal to 12.* Both equal to 12?! And where did you get that from ?

@WilliamLeeSims 6 лет назад

I haven't even watched the video yet, but we need a LOT MORE JAMES! Either on Numberphile or his own channel SingingBanana.

@pyrokinetikrlz 6 лет назад

MORE DR JAMEEEEES!

@ThreeBlackCatsInaAlley 5 лет назад

Yes we missing him? He haven't done on his channel. ...

@lunasophia9002 6 лет назад

To say Boole "influenced what we do now with computers" is something of a huge understatement. Boolean logic is at the very foundation of how digital computers function and there's absolutely no sign that it will change any time soon.

@pegy6384 6 лет назад

"The Bacon Cipher---the tastiest of all the ciphers." So nice to see Dr. Grime on here, and really lovely for Brady and Keith to pull out items that would be of special interest to him. :)

@seanleith5312 2 года назад

It's interesting though that "s" used to be written as "f" without the cross in the middle.

@SergeantShrimp1 6 лет назад

Numberphile video series "apparently quite good", what a humble brag haha

@slikrx 6 лет назад

Or would that be a brag humble?

@recklessroges 6 лет назад

But it is quite good, (so more a statement of fact than a humble brag.)

@Roescoe 6 лет назад

Best line.

@michaelgodfrey8807 6 лет назад

I actually love James Grime. I want him to talk to me about maths stuff all day

@MrDowntemp0 6 лет назад

I wish the supposed method of squaring the circle with that gizmo had been presented.

@xja85mac 6 лет назад

Maybe Keith couldn't find the letters...

@Bbonno 6 лет назад

Sounds like something they would do on Numberphile, and they definetely should. We are sort of left hanging here.

@nathangrant1824 6 лет назад

yes, i want to know too. a pretty box is not enough.

@AaronHollander314 6 лет назад

This guy is AWESOME! Calcutta in the mid 1800's. Imagine someone this motivated today. Charles Hudson (active 1825-1836) British civil servant based in India. The Calcutta Monthly Journal and General Register for 1836 notes a functionary of that name as ‘head uncovenanted assistant in the Office of the Civil Auditor.’ Hudson sent several letters and papers to Thomas Young at the Royal Society in the period 1825-1830 mainly on inventions and his business address is given as ‘at the Accountant General’s Office’ None of these papers were published, but are preserved in the archives as AP/12/11-13. Hudson published his ideas independently as A new and demonstrative solution of the geometric quadrature of the circle and of the geometric mean… by Charles Hudson, of Calcutta (Calcutta, printed by Andrew D'Souza, c.1831).

@HidekiShinichi 6 лет назад

wait few months and files of replica of it will be flying on thingiverse

@TheDatolo97 6 лет назад

7:04 In Italian we use the methaphor "squaring the circle" (quadratura del cerchio) to mean a perfect solution to a given problem

@pepebriguglio6125 6 лет назад

TheDatolo97 Interesting 👌👍 Different mentalities accentuate different aspects of the same matter 😉

@leopoldp 6 лет назад

The cypher at 4:30 spells : "bewareofthisbearrwhoissentasaspyoueryou"

@diegotejada55 6 лет назад

But there doesn't seem to be a "v" in the alphabet at the top, so I guess that it _is_ supposed to say "over" but they either just didn't use "v" back then or he just wanted to save some space

@TheAlps36 6 лет назад

I'm not a historian but I think u and v were still interchangeable in those days

@tokikg7534 6 лет назад

If I had to guess, using what someone said (u & v possibly being interchangeable) and the fact that phonetically arr is essentially the same as are (pirate speak lol) this becomes “Beware of this be are who is sent as a spy over you” I’m not to sure about the “this be are who” since it doesn’t make much sense (maybe it’s supposed to be something referencing the reader being a spy?) but the last part definitely makes sense.

@leopoldp 6 лет назад

I think this is : "Beware of this bear who is sent as a spy over you"

@ErikFromCanada 6 лет назад

"bearer" most likely, which is interesting as it would imply the person delivering the warning is also the subject of the warning! :P

@ZeedijkMike 6 лет назад

I could watch and listen to you guys for hours.

@ObjectivityVideos 6 лет назад

We have plenty more videos on the channel.

@AgentWaltonSimons 6 лет назад

"I've seen the Clangers" Yep, incontrovertible proof that the moon is inhabited. Although I can't recall the apollo astronauts commenting on the presence of a Soup Dragon at all.

@damianknight8064 6 лет назад

nasa cover up?

@AgentWaltonSimons 6 лет назад

Must Be!

@wierdalien1 6 лет назад

Clangers are the bomb. Got to love this Aussie-British channel.

@Twitchi 6 лет назад

PURPLE GLOVES OF POWER vs WHITE GLOVES OF DESTINY, has there been such a conflict!?!?!

@bilalbaig8586 6 лет назад

Top 10 anime fights of all time.

@rickyrico80 6 лет назад

All those S's written as F's makes me read that text with a Daffy Duck voice.

@JR-xv6mv 6 лет назад

You guys are simply awesome

@chrysshart 6 лет назад

Yay, I love Dr. Grime!

@shadyradwan261 6 лет назад

Keith and James, what a masterpiece. Good job, keep it up.

@EchoHeo 6 лет назад

Mah boy James Numero Prime

@sebastianmalton5967 6 лет назад

Can we get why he thought he had solved it?

@kourii 6 лет назад

That's what I was waiting for

@PinkChucky15 6 лет назад

This is so cool! And seeing you all together in this channel is awesome :-D

@ObjectivityVideos 6 лет назад

Thanks. Glad you liked it.

@michaelcollins966 6 лет назад

Boole, after whom ‘Boolean’ is named :O

@B3Band 6 лет назад

And the term "boolin" Yeet.

@shawlhuman4960 6 лет назад

Dr.Grime, happy to see you in this video!

@thomaskruszewski6052 4 года назад

This video is so cute. It makes my heart warm to see these guys just bonding over this stuff.

@Brightgalrs 6 лет назад

Crossover episode, how about that.

@ky-gp4sz 6 лет назад

I thought this was a numberphile video, and was confused because numberphile already did squaring the circle. Also, I’ve always wanted SingingBanana 🎤🍌 in an Objectivity video!

@whalep 6 лет назад

I love that you can see at 8:40 when Keith seems to make the connection between using As and Bs with binary!

@4trym 6 лет назад

James!!!! He's my favorite numberphile!

@AndrewRedroad 5 лет назад

I really don't understand why this show isn't more popular.

@O-Kyklop 5 лет назад

Exactly because of that, because it is a show and nothing more.

@kwantimusprime1149 6 лет назад

Great video.

@Bladavia 6 лет назад

YES finally !

@soranuareane 6 лет назад

So when can we expect an analysis of the quadrature of the circle "proof", Dr Grime? I'd love to see the logic involved and where the fallacy lies.

@carrottoponcrak 6 лет назад

Slimzie Maygen all work and no play makes jack a dull boy. all work and no play makes jack a dull boy

@zacharieetienne5784 6 лет назад

+Slimzie Maygen wtf

@zacharieetienne5784 6 лет назад

+Kaedenn Proof comes down to transcendentality of Pi. (See original numberphile video on that for why) And if you want a video breakdown of the proof that Pi is transcendental... Yeah trust me you don't. It may be a little bit too complicated for numberphile. Proving transcendentally is not easy. At all.

@JM-us3fr 6 лет назад

No I think he's wondering where the fallacy lies in this supposed proof.

@NothingXemnas 6 лет назад

Slimzie, I don't know which of you are wrong, but Grime talks about area, and you talk about perimeter. Maybe I lost something like "with same perimeter AND area".

@mikekuppen6256 6 лет назад

Ooo, Dr Grime!

@sam08g16 6 лет назад

James Grime is the best ever!

@everythingknife8763 10 дней назад

I love the coincidence that earlier this night, I was having a conversation with my wife on search engine's current lack of Boolean search terms.

@XanderNotZander 6 лет назад

Need an hour of Keith reading a story or documents, would be ultimate asmr

@AlexKing-tg9hl 4 года назад

Hey I came here for James but now I’m subscribed

@Jeroen_Ech 6 лет назад

Thought I clicked a numperphile video. Not dissapointed though.

@mariovaz4861 6 лет назад

I would deeply appreciate more of James Grime in Numberphile videos

@MegaAngelsgirl 6 лет назад

Fun...thanks everyone...love these

@ObjectivityVideos 6 лет назад

Great. Cheers for watching.

@GotWrackspurts 6 лет назад

I love james

@juliada8121 6 лет назад

Such a high density of coolness in this video

@hanniffydinn6019 6 лет назад

Presentation is everything

@jsd1982 6 лет назад

All those ſs remind me of my favorite underhanded Futurama joke, "That's just how we write our s's, you ſtupid ſhithead." (pronounced as if ſ was read as f)

@rtpoe 6 лет назад

Check out "Fad Eyed Fal" by Benny Hill.....

@ihathtelekinesis 6 лет назад

That object against the red background of the box would make a cool flag design.

@WilliamLeeSims 6 лет назад

Did Keith pick these books? Beautiful choices, as always.

@ObjectivityVideos 6 лет назад

Yes Keith suggested them based on a few tips about James’ interests.

@huda2170 5 лет назад

Objectivity does he know every book in the library?

@tofudish 6 лет назад

Now that James has been on Objectivity, we need to bring Cliff Stoll next. Anyone agreeing on this, too? :-)

@naota3k 6 лет назад

I'm not sure the internet could handle it. I wonder if TRS has any papers about non-Euclidean manifolds? Surely. ;)

@T3sl4 6 лет назад

The purple gloves of WAAAAAHHHHHHHH

@farpointgamingdirect 5 месяцев назад

I once had someone ask me if there was ever a book that made me cry. I said, "Trigonometry."😅

@Blackmore45 6 лет назад

Brady's hair in this video is weirdly perfect

@xGaLoSx 6 лет назад

Keith and James? Fml, this is heaven.

@Varksterable 6 лет назад

I've been watching this channel for a while now. Seen most videos at least twice. I love it. But something has just suddenly struck me about it. (Call me slow if you want.) No music. Now I've finally noticed it, I just have to comment on how much better that makes this channel IMO. So many popularization of [x] channels think that adding music (usually at completely unnecessary volume and badly mixed) make things more accessible and entertaining. You seem to have taken the approach that the _subject_ should be the interesting part. And you are completely right; it is. And with nothing to distract from it, the subject shines. The fact that it's taken me months to even notice there was no music possibly proves the point; it is _not_ needed if the content holds the viewers attention. GJ.

@FrontalBeep 6 лет назад

Did James already do a White Gloves of Destiny? I can't recall! Those are my favorite episodes, so I hope Brady manages to do as many as possible. I think it's an amazing way of showing the breadth and depth of the archive!

@diegotejada55 6 лет назад

Brady, you know you're the real star of Numberphile

@ChrisChoi123 6 лет назад

6:12 the moment brady realises someone has finally trumped in naming things

@orellaminx3530 5 лет назад

Audio so crisp it's making my ears quiver. Keith should do audio books.

@mooncowtube 6 лет назад

"The tastiest of all the cyphers" FTW

@nrellis666 6 лет назад

Coincidentally i was just watching James video on Squaring the Circle a few days ago

@XanderFenikkusu 6 лет назад

I really like Keith's ring!

@allanfloyd8103 6 лет назад

I love Brady trying to be objective about Numberphile... ;)

@GuanoLad 6 лет назад

I hope James has a White Gloves of Destiny coming too.

@ObjectivityVideos 6 лет назад

Maybe...

@ollebo 6 лет назад

James should get his own gloves. The marigolds of mathematics

@gejyspa 6 лет назад

Is this the same John Wilkins who created the Philosophical Language, one of the first constructed languages?

@robnorris4770 6 лет назад

Objectivity’s new graphic logo!

@BaronFeydRautha 5 лет назад

"Kieth, Whats in the box?" needs to be on a T Shirt now

@arsenelupin123 6 лет назад

19th century James!

@Rubrickety 6 лет назад

"...which apparently is quite good" is quite good. :-)

@Android480 6 лет назад

@xja85mac 6 лет назад

Is a "white gloves of destiny with James Grime" coming up?

@ProfRandom1618 6 лет назад

"What's in the box?!?!?!??!"

@verifiedpurchase3486 6 лет назад

Wow! You look great, Dr. Haran! Fitotron5000 for life! Love, Tim

@1996Pinocchio 6 лет назад

Keith has such a pleasant voice

@vexflorez6220 6 лет назад

0:59 y(olo)! even the old masters knew it

@TheyCallMeNewb 6 лет назад

Hierarchy of Glove confirmed!

@vojtechpikal183 6 лет назад

I want to see a numberfile video discussing the proof encompacted in that object.

@Froggeh92 6 лет назад

Yes but how does the pretty thing work Brady? The channel is made to satisfy curiosity and now im dying from it. Was this the goal? Cuz Well played.

@Froggeh92 6 лет назад

MichaelKingsfordGray i know you cant square a circle. Just wondering how it was "supposed" to work.

@sphakamisozondi Год назад

Learned about Boole in high school and the Boolean algebra that is used by computers

@GeurRueg 6 лет назад

If you grab a rope with both ends tied you can make any form and get the same area?

@mrmimeisfunny 6 лет назад

"star of the numberphile series" Tell that in front of Matt Parker, Tony Padilla, Tadashi Tokieda, Cliff Stoll, etc.

@kwantimusprime1149 6 лет назад

I'd like to learn more about Keith the librarian. How does one become a librarian for the Royal Society?

@frankharr9466 6 лет назад

It's GRIMES, the Singing Banana!

@ManicEngine 6 лет назад

John Wilkins shows up in the Baroque Cycle/Cryptonomicon books by Neal Stephenson, which might be what is tickling the back of James' mind...?

@shivanga13 7 месяцев назад

r + (1/9)r approximates the square root of ((L²)/2) Where the circumference of a circle with radius "r" approximates the perimeter of a square with side length "L". This is squaring the circle. Always approximates because of pi.

@StripeyType 6 лет назад

Indeed, in many programming languages, the basic data type to represent a true or false value is called... a *boolean* value

@diegotejada55 6 лет назад

The dots on the cypher say: "Beware of this bear r who is sent as a spy ouer you" ...huh, I just noticed that there's no "V" in the letters at the top, IDK if that's because they didn't use "v" back then or just to save some space, but I guess that is supposed to say "over"...and the extra "r" might just be a mistake, IDK Now that I think of it, the message is reminiscent of mccarthyism during the Cold War when Americans thought that Soviets (the bear is the national animal of Russia) were spying on them...except that this was made 250 years before so...interesting

@AgglomeratiProduzioni 6 лет назад

"The Earth may be a planet" ahahah

@Croxmata 6 лет назад

Nice T-Shirt you are wearing there, Brady.

@ObjectivityVideos 6 лет назад

Thanks. Golden ratio seeds!

@Croxmata 6 лет назад

The T-Shirt is the real Numberphile crossover.

@B3Band 6 лет назад

Everybody knows Vince McMahon invented the concept of squaring the circle.

@smaakjeks 6 лет назад

5:35 He was a real fan of P, this guy.

@jomama3465 4 года назад

At 1:09, isn't it that Thales was the first person to put up that kind of deduction(modus ponens)?

@jadenrodriguez7592 6 лет назад

6:05 He put Brad Pitt to shame with that delivery.

@EmilMacko 6 лет назад

1:50 *Chuckles mathematically*

@anubisu1024 6 лет назад

I found that old prints really have long S's (ſ). That's interesting.

@aopstoar4842 6 лет назад

Could you square it if you involved i? In another problem we saw dr Grime use i to jump in a sequence in the normal plane. Something with a cone where you went into i then back to the normal plane. Could it have been 2016?