Squier Roundup: A look at six Squier guitars from worst to first 

My first guitar, had it for 3 years, MIC, no issues, no wearing down, I just locked the trem because it's such a thin block I'm more concerned with tuning stability.

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "setup properly"? What does that entail?

I picked up a 2008 affinity for $100 at a yard sale, gave it a proper setup and it will out play my fender American standard

@@AndyWitmyer Most likely things like a correct action height, intonation, making sure the truss rod is well set up, etc. This could also go further in the fret leveling department/ rolling the fretboard. Small changes drastically bump up the quality, since even high end guitars start out with a rougher feel, however you pay for the man hours to make it play like butter.

Yea he lumps the bullet and the affinity together.. the Bullet retails for 250 dollars in my country, the Affinity 599 dollars. With a bit of work on fret ends and a good set up there's nothing wrong with the affinity. Change the pickups and challenge anyone to notice a difference Between that and a vastly more expensive strat! This video is only one person's opinion. Lol

You're right. He's was holding a bullet and criticising the affinity. The range goes Bullet then California then Affinity then Standard ... an Indonesian affinity (IC - Cort) is a decent lightweight unit that plays well and stays in tune - a great beginner guitar.

I got an Affinity J Bass 3 years ago & it’s still playing great. Smooth fret ends & the pick ups still sound decent. It was €300 with an amp, tuner & some other accessories. I’ve heard other people say they weren’t happy with their Affinities. Maybe I was just lucky!

Richard Dean agreed. I’ve got an Indonesian Affinity and made minor mods, American Fender hardware etc. and I’d put it up against anything in the $700 range. My luthier calls it a one in a thousand. Says I got lucky. Ok, cool. ✌️🎸

@@richarddean1810 classic vibe before standard.

Affinity series squiers are actually fairly decent for what they cost. The bullet strat models are fairly awful despite the bullet Telecasters and Mustangs being pretty decent for the price.

uhhh actually 1/25 on an in

fuck you , Which is 40 thousandths 🙄

More importantly the nut is about a millimeter narrower on the affinities too

yeah, it will burn well

@Steve Fitz they burn very well

Norman Byrne are all of the squire affinities the same. meaning if i get one from early 2000s would it be the same as the ones made today.

I have Afinity and is very good..the neck is very confortable..

@@moosetracks656 There is a site out there somewhere....which lists the Squier factories. If I remember...there are like 15 different factories that have made Squiers. Many times...it's the same 'ghost' company(like Cort)...but, they use their factories in different countries. Anyway...to answer your question....They are all slightly different and use different woods depending on availability.

Norman Byrne so the problem is, in 2016 squire moves all the manufacturing to Indonesia and everything got a huge bump in quality (bullet and affinity) I still recommend the affinity over the bullet even though the price jump the tuners on the bullet is just terrible everything else on all of them now are amazing

Chinese and Indonesian Squiers are good guitars out of the box. It doesn't hurt to do a set up, that's one of the ways they keep them affordable. From what I understand experienced players like them because their necks are comfortable. In my opinion the weakest part about them are the pots and switches. I'm a pretty big fan of the ceramic pick ups. I have a Chinese Squier Strat and my first upgrades are going to be bridge, but and tuners. Lastly the pots and switch and maybe the jack or Maybe nothing because I love it as is.

Heard that. Cant tell anything with 50 lbs of distortion on it

@@joe1969812 I agree. Review the guitar......Not the Amp.Just purchased a Bullet Tele, and played great right out of the box. No fret sprout, intonation spot on, Not sure I'll do any modding at all on it. Maybe locking tuners .

Rule #1, you get what you pay 4! Rule of thumb, go about the middle of the pack for decent quality and it's not too much more ca$h wise!

Do both - clean and crunchy with single coil AND positions 2 & 4 'hum-cancelling'.

@@dragan4658 idk id usually agree but sometimes just sometimes you can get really lucky with the cheap ones.

kitthevideoman i would immediately switch luthiers or don't share crystal meth/crack with your luthier before assessing guitars.you understand your statement is complete bullshit i hope?if you don't your going to be having quite a buffet of bullshit fed to you your entire life,don't be so gullible.

kitthevideoman To Kit: I have the same guitar, set up by "straight out of the box'; plays and sounds like a dream. Pickups great range and depth of tone. Telecaster/affinity/ China. Dont let anybody fool you, the chinese can make as good a guitar as anybody. Ditto the Squier affinity stratocaster in black sparkle with humbucker bridge pickup. If you want to pay a few more bucks for Seymour's designed p,ups - the Vintage modified 70,s strat is simply incredibleguitar. Like sound of P90,s? Grab the Telecustom 2 VM , and the Squier Classic Vibe 50

Yeah right, a 2x4 has better wod quality then a Squier Affinity.

+trillriff-axegrinder If you don't SEE and MEASURE something and DON'T HAVE PROOF, cease uninformed comments!

Lay off the acid dude, it's bad for your chops. Affinity Squiers are crap, I've played a metric crap load of them, and I've never found one that was on the level of a MIA,MIM, or MIJ instrument. And you had the Stone's guitar tech on hand to look at a Squier? I sense a load of bullshit, you're either a worthless troll, or a very misinformed person.

I agree...I learned on a Squier that I still have and play.

My first guitar was a squire affinity strat. I still play it regularly. The trem messes up the tuning but besides that I have no complaints

BeerAndBeards amen to that

BeerAndBeards Love my Butterscotch Tele.

Dave Walsh Isn't it one of the most outstanding guitars you've ever played???? I still can't believe that they're MIC!!!!!

Yeah he talks too much.

He hasn't a clue

I have an affinity ..beautiful guitar ..I don't agree with his opinion .

Nice !

I'm jealous. I owned an early 90's Japanese squire in my teens and like an idiot I parted with it! One of my biggest ever regrets! 😒

I've just bought a 93 silver series, and this things a serious bit of kit

dominque dudink I love mine too but it’s time to get a better guitar 😪

@@troyhall605 Have you decided which one? I am left hand beginner and I am thinking to buy the squier Affinity.

Some are better than others, I’m just learning and picked up a 2004 Affinity Strat for $60. It has beautifully finished frets and nice machine heads. It has crap pickups but those are easily swapped

If you have an Indonesian-made Affinity Strat, probably that’s why. They’re by far better than the Chinese ones from how we played it.

@@guardianobserver6593 get the made in Indonesia!

no,it isnt but because you own it you feel the need to defend your "poor choice" in guitars

He does!

so do I I paid 179 for a butternut tele I am always in awe of my tele. sound It is made in china. i do have a indonesia squire with a blender on it much better quality work on the neck. That is probably one of the few things he got right. Indonesia has a lot better quality.

trillrif axegrindor okay whatever

yes it's definitely the bullet that's the cheapest...

Those Indonesian Squires are good. I have a 2005 made there. I upgraded the pickups from Planet Waves. It sounds awesome now.

What’s the blues tone like on it

The one's I've tried have great action.

I have an Affinity Tele in Race Green. Plays brilliantly, sounds gorgeous (just like an american standard for instance) and weighs pretty light in my opinion. Worth the buck I must say!

John Kochen but you can overcome the risk of buying a lemon by purchasing in store after you’ve had a play with it. I’ve got a Squier Bass (10 year old Affinity serious Jazz Bass) that still plays like a dream since I brought it home. I played other Squiers and Fenders in the store and bought the one I liked best that I could afford. I have never regretted that purchase. He’ll I even have an 82 Hondo strat copy inherited from my dad that I would play in front of people without embarrassment, and that’s arguably one of the worst guitars ever built. So my point with regard to these cheaper instruments is, buy the instrument that you liked playing in the store rather than ordering online. You’ll avoid the lemons.

I just got an Affinity Tele Butter Scotch Blonde with a maple neck and satin finish. The old affinity might not have been good but now that it's 2018, they feel just like a MIM Tele. So if it's older maybe avoid that but everyone who has tried mine or has their own, never needed a set up. Stays in tune fairly well and it's 200 USD. Get them while you can. Make sure it has a gold logo and a black nut

The Stagemaster 7 string is an excellent guitar. Only the 7 string has specs that match the sound.

B.S.

ah you must be an american....

+1963strat or a child

Yes, i wanna hear the guitar, not the amp...unless it a amp review.

I agree with 200%, tou cant hear its natural tone. Thats why i hate most reviewers they all do heavy distortion

i agree! i bought the bullet hss limited ed as a second guitar and honestly it's a very fun guitar to play. It's comfortable and i like the action it has.

Thank you, I'll never let go of it no matter what. I bought the bullet new for$80 I been playing it for over 20years. I had it customized and I know the pick ups are weak, but I won't change them. The bullut squire is a great guitar, has everything, don't need all those ad on things and I like the wider neck, as long as it's smooth and has minimal neck relief. I love this guitar I need this guitar.

+SteelyGlow Good call. Your right. Fender is good abt this, I got one thru the mail and it was set up well. Intonation, action, frets, and pickup height done well. and everything was tighten down. But yeah most of lower priced stuff is practically falling apart out of the box. Well worth checking either way to see whats up or down on the instrument. I like that you mentioned it tho. Some easy fixes can make alot nicer guitar.

+Nick Wagner Once, I have seen a brand new Fender Stratocaster in a store that was not usable as it. The bridge was a mess.

I don't think it's so much about any notion of a "storage setup"...I suspect that if you were to play most of these instruments as they went thru the QC line, most folks would be surprised at just how wonderfully playable they are AT THAT POINT. There are several other factors to consider though - How long did a given instrument sit in a warehouse? How often was a given instrument shipped and re-shipped before it got to the store (or your door)? The fact of the matter here is that from the moment a guitar goes into it's shipping box at the factory to the time it reaches the shelves (or a customer's door), that guitar has already had an often brutal life! LOL! Those boxes at the factory get stacked on pallets and often stuffed away in a warehouse for a while (give or take whether they're needed to fill a particular order), then they get shuffled and re-stacked when they go out the door to a shipping facility where they may get knocked around on trucks, bumped around on planes and subjected to all sorts of temperature and humidity extremes. From there they may go into another warehouse for a while (such as with MF or AMS) where they wait for an order, only to be re-shipped again. In the case of brick and mortar stores, they often come out of the box and get immediately shoved up on a shelf where they may get beat on by every weekend wanker who walks past...yet people wonder why these instruments may be a bit wonkey when you pick them up, LOL! And none of that even includes the "green wood" factor...people forget that these instruments are -mass produced- and in a situation where a given company (say Fender) is running a really high production on a given month, the wood that goes into that instrument may or may not be completely dry (even though it's been thru a kiln). In the case of a brand new guitar, regardless of price or origin, I always suggest people give the instrument 6 months to a year for that new wood to really "settle in". That neck that seems to go wonky on an inexpensive guitar may simply be due to green'ish wood that's still very much in the drying process (which is also what causes so much "fret sprout" as well). In other words, it's not like these instruments receive the same kind of treatment as say, a Stradivarius violin being sold at a Christies auction. That all said, you are absolutely correct in that it is very much about "set up". Far too many people confuse the concept of a good setup with the quality of the instrument itself. I've never known whether this was simply a matter of ignorance or simply a way for people to rationalize their own preconceptions, however as I've said elsewhere many/most inexpensive instruments can play quite well with a decent setup (and a bit of work), however even a $4000 Custom Shop instrument will play like complete CRAP with a poor setup.

Buying an used guitar from a good store is the best deal you could do. I've bought my Jackson DK2M that way, came with 3-month warranty and all set up (keep in mind it's a Floyd Rose so it wouldn't come cheap) by the store owner who is a luthier. If you go to these smaller stores you'll get the best service for sure, even if it's not properly adjusted ask for it to be included, they'll most likely do it for you.

True but his argument is that the parents buying the guitar probably aren't going to know and the child probably won't either.

Why do you need so many of the same guitar? XD

@@Remu- Different pickups, different tuning, different playing styles, different hardware. Just because a strat is a strat doesn't mean they're all the same.

@@mitchell9937 Actually my comment came across a little wrong and I get your point. I just personally would rather get a Fender Player series with the same money it costs to buy 3 Affinities.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this (side note, when I typed "I'm not the only one" , he also said " I'm not the only one" in the video to. Frickin sweet huh?)

"I'll be right back" means one of three things: 1. I'm going for another beer. 2. I'm going to pee. 3. I'm putting in a couple of shifts at the meth lab.

I got the black edition 50s vibe strat and it's a great guitar

@@klr-canary7100 They truly are! I'm still jamming with it every day :p

Sound without reverb feels dead.

@@siddharthsharma8940 Its still the basis for all your added sound. How do we know how dead it is?

P*Funk facts

you arent very bright,are you?

I'm the same but I bought my affinity back in 1997 and never ever had a problem. I don't think it's fair to tar all affinity models with the same shitty brush. Maybe the UK got better shipments and America got the crap it deserves. lol

Hey now we designed the Strat after all lol My affinity also plays really nice too, I took some light steel wool to the back of the neck and it feels amazing

Lee Sanderson I bought one for 30 quid last week.. changed the strings from 9s to 10s....sounds amazing.....lot of guitar snobbery going on.

I, too, feel that snubbing the Affinity is hasty. Had a pair of 'em years back - I had one of each fretboard, - One was a 50th ann. with the gold plate on back of the headstock saying so, and the other a '96or'7, if memory serves, both were "Vintage", both were the white-gone-cream color, and with a simple "shampoo & set" they were both quite awesome and worthy instruments. Both were better playing guitars than my friend's "real" Strat, hands down!

Have the exact same one (same year, too). Bought an epiphone korina explorer to replace the strat but I keep going back to it, feels amazing.

"The guys at duncan told them this is how you do it" 😂

Inaccurate? The best reply for that is "you're inaccurate" lol. Such a blatent statement gets you a teenagers type reply! Greatly accurate video overall!

@@rageinfamous6921 lol 👍

Agree. Starting with the "minor" point that the reason it doesn't have Affinity on the headstock is because its a much cheaper Bullet.

This wanna be rock star doesn’t know what he’s talking about. IMO.

Bar Goldstein its also (if you change the switch tip, knobs and pickup covers to white or aged white) like david gilmours strat

Love mine with maple neck

I put vintage alnico in both ends and it is just tits. Alder body. This guy is out to lunch. He was mixed up about affinity and bullet badly

when did you bought it? and how do you feel after using it for a long time?

resington True. The Affinity series is actually a super useful platform for modding a guitar. If you want to build a partscaster, play with your spray cans or router, they are things to do it with. My Classic Vibe 50s strat is my favourite guitar, no ifs or buts. I just wish the trem was a better alloy.

resington He didn't actually show a Bullet in the video. It was an SE which is the step above the Affinities. So by rubbishing that one he took out the Affinities in the process. The reality is they are both good for the price. I went from a Bullet (modded to locking tuners) to a CV and frankly I got a better setup on the Indonesian Bullet than the CV. It was just the pickups and tuners that were tinny on the Bullet.

affinities fret wear is not shocking but not good either. Bullets are just bad to play and sound bad, you really like them??

Get a classic vibe

+Liam Arnold Genau

you have no feeling in your hands,you have a problem with hearing and you quite possibly are a total moron,this sums up your comment

I have the same one. I bought it brand new for Christmas in 1983. It's a JV three bolt.

Keith Clark . He probably changed to hss

***** Oh, I think they were better. I think Fender thought they were better, too, which is why they finally wrested the company from the grip of CBS. They knew they couldn't compete globally if CBS was in control.

I can totally agree with this. They are still fairly easy to find and worth the extra cash, because they are still much cheaper than the American made Fender's of today.

Nathaniel Smith so JV means japanese variant? also are the years too look for are 65 and 85 year models?

Ryanspashai Thanks for straighting this out.... I love those old Squier's.

***** When did squire use parts from fender USA? Like 1980 -83 by 1984 US negotiated with china' and stole our intellectual properties, i swear they make the best dope anywhere pipe dope

+José Silvestre It is true to some extent but NOT EVERYTHING is in the fingertips :)

+José Silvestre I saw Joe Satriani on a video playing a cheap strat guitar. He was tearing it up.After he got done he said it was REALLY hard playing on it. That is much of the difference. The ease of play. When you have to struggle to play it induces more fatigue and discouragement. And, wear on your finger tips. I actually have a cheapo "premier" strat copy. Everyone says it sounds good. And, it does. But.. it plays like CRAP. Really hard and I can tell that it doesn't put out exactly what I'm trying to make it do. I can make it sound good. But it is a lot of work.

+Eric Daniels You seem to be over-looking a few things. First and foremost, there's setup...sorry, but you just can't blame a cheap instrument for a poor setup (and particularly with a Strat, there's a lot more that goes into a good setup than most people realize). The fact is that you can have a $4000 Custom Shop instrument and it WILL play like crap with a poor setup...every time. Has NOTHING to do with how much the guitar cost. Regardless of your Satriani video, never make the mistake of confusing "setup" with "quality"...two VERY different things. And gee...what about string gauge? You want finger fatigue, trying playing a Strat with .013's on it the way Stevie Ray Vaughn used to. Yea...sounds great...absolute murder on the fingers! And what about the style of the instrument? Compare a $2000 Gibson ES-335 with even a $600 Fender MIM Standard Strat...even using the same gauge strings, most people will tell you the Strat is "easier to play" (although to someone who grew up with Gibsons, the Strat may feel "loose"). Certainly there are some differences in "tone"...most inexpensive guitars, particularly Strats, usually have crappy pickups and pot metal bridge saddles/trem blocks and such, but a few bucks at Guitar Fetish will usually fix that up in a jiff. Sorry dude, but I own and have played "cheap guitars" that play and sound like instruments costing hundreds, if not thousands of dollars more. Jose hit the nail smack dab on the head there...it's not the gear, it's the person using it. There's guys out there with the most expensive top shelf gear money can buy - who can't play a freakin' note. On the other hand, I've seen guys using the rattiest gear you can imagine, who can bring tears to your eyes because their playing is just THAT good.

I agree with you, but still there are certain instruments that fit you so well you can feel certain "mojo". Other instruments just don't give you that. I just traded a gorgeous mex strat because I didn't feel much when I was playing it. And it was objectively a great instrument, just not for me. As a kid I there was a teacher who would lend me his American Deluxe stratocaster for months at a time. I loved that guitar and I still haven't found one that makes me feel the way that guitar did. The closest is my currrent japanese 80's squier contemporary, which is like the video guy says, insanely good. The pickups were not but that is now taken care of. Edit. the other day I had the chance to try an Squier Tele affinity, I didn't like the neck quality at all, it was all edgy, badly finished and very thick. OTOH I love the Modern Player Thinline Tele. Someday.

Perhaps I'm just a bit more analytical than others, however I try to avoid ethereal notions such as "mojo". I will certainly agree that each and every guitar is certainly unique and has it's own personality and even "voice"...this is the nature of musical instruments in general, however a great deal of this is more about practical aspects of design than anything particularly enigmatic (or dogmatic for that matter). Neck profiles, body shape/weight, etc., are what contribute to that "feel". On that note, yes, I've owned guitars as well which I've sold or traded because they didn't particularly suite my own tastes. I once had a Korean made "Lite Ash" Strat...exceptionally well made instrument to say the least, however in this case the V neck, the copper trem block and the Duncan pickups all contributed to an instrument that I just didn't care for. That's not to say this instrument didn't have any "mojo", it simply wasn't an instrument that suited my own tastes and playing style. I can't speak much to the Affinity Tele you played, as much of that depends on where/when it was made and if it's an older instrument, how well it's been maintained. It should go without saying that lower priced instruments often don't receive the setups that even mid-priced instruments due...often they come out of the box and go right on the shelf. What's more is that the majority of people who buy such instrument really have little clue what a "fret dressing" is, so such instrument seldom go into a shop to have such issues properly addressed. Personally, I have an '09 Affinity Tele which I had picked up a few years back to use as something of an art project...while I'm not crazy about Teles in general, this Affinity, like most modern Squiers, is an exceptional instrument for the money. Conversely, I've played a number of American made Strats over the 30+ years I've been playing and personally - I just don't care for them. They're reasonably well built, however I've NEVER cared for the 2 point trems and the pickups on contemporary MIA's just suck in my not so humble opinion. They're also horribly over-priced for what you get...if you set your preconceptions aside and do an honest comparison between MIM's and MIA's, you don't get much at all for that MIA even though you're paying nearly twice the price. I'm not saying that all Squiers are great here...where MIM's and MIA's have always had a fair degree of consistency since their introduction, Squier can often be all over the board. I've also owned a pair of Korean made Squier Strats from the early 90's that honestly, wouldn't even constitute decent canoe paddles...low end laminate bodies, inferior hardware, horrible pickups, etc.. On the other hand, I also own a Japanese made Squire Strat...one of the infamous E-series...that's truly one of the finest instruments I've ever seen come from Fender. Short of CS, American Strats just aren't THAT good...quite literally some of the best workmanship I've ever seen. The problem is that instead of judging an instrument based on it's own individual merits, guitar "X" compared with guitar "Y", a lot of people have unjustified preconceptions regarding these instruments. Unfortunately, the Squire name still has a bit of a stigma attached to it, so many people don't really give them fair consideration. That said, again having played for over 30 years, I very much remember the budget instruments of the mid-80's...brands like Memphis, Lotus, Cort, Hondo, et. al., and I have to say that for similar comparative money, the contemporary CIC Squire Affinities and even some of the Bullets are simply superior instruments - FAR better than much of the firewood that came out in the days of yore! LOL! At the end of the day, it's really just a matter of perspective - the "best" guitar, regardless of price, color, options, country of origin, etc., is simply the guitar you enjoy playing. For myself, that's usually the early - mid-90's MIM's (after some tweaks)...your mileage may vary.

I totally agree. Strats are meant to be played clean and bright. The distortion here makes these guitars sound like any guitar. I finally bought a fender amp for my strat and it sounds perfect.

i played a deluxe for 5 minutes, then i chucked it in the bin

david young 😂

david young In the market for a strat under 400 What do you play?

@@jaxchiro Don't get a strat, buy a Gibson 339, can't go wrong with that guitar, great sound, great guitar, but get the nut changed to a graphite nut, to stop sticking. I have a Gibson 339, lovely sounding guitar dude,

Lucy, don't get a Deluxe, save your money and buy a decent guitar, Harley Benton Fusion II, FBB, nice Guitar, from THOMANN, around £389, i don't know where you are in the world, take a look at it, plays better than the delux strat. Have you set the delux strat on fire yet??, it burns very well.

Yeh, they burn well

They burn better

Good one. Lol

*starts video with epiphone les paul in hand* hears squier *why am I watching this video?*

Strat copy here

if you played for a week and have zero reference to what a good guitar is,a bullet will be awesome "to you and you alone". if you have played for a couple years and understand quality,desirable options,build quality and pickup selection you will throw a bullet out a moving cars window as fast as the window will roll down.

Same here. First guitar and I love it. I use D'Addario XLNY strings and it stays in tune quite well (I did lock down the trem). I recorded solo type stuff over a backing track in Bandlab website and it sounds fantastic. Perfect for me to work into solid intermediate level.

Bierce88 he doesnt play either type of guitar,how would he review them?

Epiphone and LTD have no corelation whatsoever.

N3ssaya he never said they did

Ace Frehley welcome to youtube. an ocean on know it all dicks who watch a single video and are now honorary youtube scholars. just dicks waving in the wind as far as the eye can see

The QC can be all over the map on chinese made fenders, or anything for that matter.

The Indonesian Squier's by Cort are great. Anything by Cort Indonesia is a great bargain most times. I got a slightly paint blemished (like a pinhead spot on the back) Bullet Tele for $90. Sounds like an American. Frets are a little sharp but nothing crazy. Put in a $40 Surf 90 and some 500k pots for $10 and it's done. Great guitar for $150 and I got to work on it myself to form a bond with it.

+knucklesprayer Epiphone's don't really have a series, just specific models. But in my opinion, most Epiphone models are really good in terms of built quality and are worth the money. However, I would probably stay away from the models that have the bolt on neck feature, like the Les Paul 100 or the SG 100.

Nathan Lam why?

+il Solano typical underground rehearsal room's devices ^^

Do u think the Indonesian classic vibe are better or worst than the previous Chinese one? Tks

@@MrAntpre Indonesian are better I have had Chinese ones Teles and Strats sold em all, but my indonesian ones are all keepers. The Bullets are great

José Silvestre yeah that same one was my first decent electric guitar. I had the bullet special. 1 volume and 1 humbucker

Affinity is CRAP dude, put it in the bin

Kramer baretta special is miles ahead of any squire strat

Dude I agree don't put it in the bin squire affinity series guitars are amazing not everyone can afford a Fender Stratocaster I have a Fender Squire Strat Affinity Series Sunburst 2003 model didn't get it off the internet and it sounds vintage to me my guitar is vintage a Strat is a Strat

and youtube's videos compression getting rid of sound quality

no,they dont.

W. Dearth all play the same but different look and feel

that's because he used the same shitty amp & settings. Mebbe he should invest in a GOOD AMP...

His sound sucks

***** Well you're right lol

***** same with cars....

Rick Finkelstein It must happen before sundown or we are shipping you off to military school ...