SS-Contract Walther PP and PPK Pistols

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Today, courtesy of Tom from Legacy Collectibles, we are taking a look at Walther PP and PPK pistols made specifically for the SS. These guns comprised several special contracts, distinct from general military and commercial production. They were not the only such special contracts, as such arrangements were also made for organizations like railway security and bank guards. Tracing back these specific guns has been done by a group of researchers using the archives preserved by the American and German armed forces.
If you would like more information or authentication of a Walther PP or PPK, Tom is happy to help (free of charge), and can be reached at info@legacy-collectibles.com .
To see more about Legacy, check out their RU-vid channel:
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The specific variations are:
PP Var 1: Non-P suffix slide, 997985 - 981212
PP Var 2: P Under serial, 124774P - 125168P
PP Var 3: External numbered slide, high polish. Crown-N proofs, 114343P - 157923P. Eagle-N proofs, 161757P - 162691P, 193484P - 194201P, 202786P - 204905P
PP Var 4: External numbered slide, military finish, 331xxxP - 333xxxP
PPK Var 1: Muzzle numbered. RZM-marked, 838769 - 841397. Non-RZM, 844936 - 990787, 1001262 - 1002477, 192083K - 192925K
PPK Var 2: K Under serial, 206019K - 234852K
PPK Var 3: External numbered slide, high polish, 242844K - 330358K
PPK Var 4: External numbered slide, military finish, 382985K - 426712K
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@ihcfn 4 года назад

Ian: If you don't collect these, this is some pretty esoteric information and I'm impressed that you're still watching Me: I watched a 20 minute video on hats

@ryan0U 4 года назад

I mean they were pretty cool hats.

@TheDougwoods 4 года назад

I like hearing Ian's voice before I go to sleep after working a 12 hour shift 😅. It's so soothing hearing him talk about guns, history, or anything really.

@ex0ne 4 года назад

@@TheDougwoods i can second that :)

@johncashwell1024 4 года назад

Ian's hat video was quite enjoyable. The 'star' of the one of the other channels I watch; TheHistoryGuy, who covers forgotten history, is a hat collector. He especially collects historical military hats, but like Ian also has a few other types as well. And he does a video on the history of a particular hat from time to time. Like Ian he also stays away from politics so it's a rather enjoyable channel. ForgottenWeapons is always the 1st one I go to each day, though.

@hoss2060 4 года назад

they were great hats

@frankkrunk 4 года назад

The Theuermann patent holsters were not meant to lift the gun, but rather the opposite, to drop the holster. The waist belt on SS uniforms (and indeed most clothes at the time) was placed really high, above the belly button. So if you had a pistol holster attached to this belt, you had to move your arm in a really unnatural and unergonomic way to draw your gun, almost moving your hand into your armpit. The Theuermann holster is designed so that when you pop the tab open, the weight of the gun pulls the entire holster down towards your hip and opens the cover flap. As you can see, the belt loops go all the way on the inside of the flap.

@TrainTracker911 4 года назад

Thanks for this information. Very much appreciated.

@juhokuusisto9339 4 года назад

Isn't the Bundeswehr using/has used those kind of holsters for their P1?

@littlearsehole75 4 года назад

WWII Urban Carry

@henrydaubresse9652 4 года назад

Absolutely! And the same design was used earlier for the P-38, but as far as I can find, only for police issue.

@ricardocorredouro8251 4 года назад

The Portuguese used the same design in the P1 holsters.

@mrkeogh 4 года назад

Gun Nerds: "Were all of these PPKs issued to the SS?" Nazi Bureaucracy: "Nein nein nein nein nein nein...K"

@sic308941 4 года назад

Glad u picked up on this as well

@silvershock019 4 года назад

I love the part where he says "838769 through nein nein nein"

@pokemaster123ism 4 года назад

Man, those guns are over 70 years old and they still look like they just rolled off the line

@myotherlifed9554 4 года назад

B.J. Blazkowicz I would guess that its because these werent used in combat as much as other small arms. Pistols arent really fired that often in combat and soldiers rarely roll in dirt with a pistol like they do with rifles and smgs.

@mcgyver8177 4 года назад

I've read that a LOT of these guns were 'presented', then placed in a desk drawer....and, that not ALL "nazis" goose stepped around Germany shooting people in the head.

@Tepid24 4 года назад

@@mcgyver8177 "That'd be a horrid waste of ammunition. We have bayonets for that!" -Oskar Dirlewanger (paraphrased)

@JohnDoe-ee6qs 4 года назад

These were in effect issued to SS police units, far behind the front lines

@GunsNGames1 4 года назад

Hey man, I'm sorry for what they did with the newest Wolfenstein games, that's pure shame.

@ChandlerThomasvoon100 4 года назад

Her on the first date: I like guys who aren’t afraid to show their nerdy side Me: did you know that there are subtle ways to distinguish Nazi SS issued Walther PPK/PP pistols from their civilian and military counter parts? Typical these can be distinguished by their magazines being serialized, but only if they fall into a certain serial number range. Typical there are two magazines, and some will be followed by a K (under or behind the number) indicating that they were latter production examples.

@tenhundredkills 4 года назад

If she's genuinely impressed, she's a keeper!

@TheRealChilly 4 года назад

@@tenhundredkills legit 50/50 chance.

@123apacino 4 года назад

*leaves because she thinks you are a nazi

@scratchy996 3 года назад

@@123apacino Nowadays if you show you know anything about the German ww2 military, you're labeled as a Nazi. Some American lefties want to ban words like "Panzer" or "Wehrmacht", because "they make Nazis sound cool"...

@W0DAN88 3 года назад

@@scratchy996 so people would need to say "My grandpa was ******man in the *********"?

@stephenb2276 4 года назад

Ian: and I'm impressed that you're still here watching. Me: Would watch Ian talk about pet rocks for 20min

@blackhorsecavalry 4 года назад

That video was hilarious.

@GhostKill88 4 года назад

This design is so cool. I remember being infatuated with these types of guns as a kid, and I blame people like James Bond lol.

@dwightehowell8179 4 года назад

I was a James Bond junkie and James always carried a Walther in I think .32.

@zachhoward9099 4 года назад

@@dwightehowell8179 wasn't his PPK a replacement for a Beretta?

@dwightehowell8179 4 года назад

@@zachhoward9099 He started off with a Beretta 418, changed to a Beretta M1934, then changed to the PPK.

@AshleyPomeroy 4 года назад

"7.62mm, delivery like a brick through a plate glass window. The American CIA swear by them". I always liked the way they specified it was the American CIA, because this was 1962 and the CIA was still relatively new.

@jayzenitram9621 4 года назад

@@dwightehowell8179 Was it Thunderball where they switch the gun on him and he tries to sneak out the beretta under the PPK box?

@MRtucnakCZE 4 года назад

Oh boy, imagine being an SS officer and getting your own Walther with serial 999,999 on it. I guess if you were the unlucky guy who had 999,998, you'd yell "NEIN!".

@bertbertmann5823 4 года назад

Come on, Ian, don‘t be shy! It‘s REICHS SICHERHEITS HAUPT AMT

@theblackbaron4119 4 года назад

TELEFONMAST!

@FakeSchrodingersCat 4 года назад

Or Department of Homeland Security

@brittakriep2938 4 года назад

schrodingers cat : Imperial (Reichs) Security (Sicherheits) Main/Head (Haupt) Office (Amt).

@peka2478 4 года назад

It's actually a pretty sight how the German of all those military stuff RU-vidrs gets better and better over the years, so I'm no longer afraid of how Ian would pronounce that xD

@brittakriep2938 4 года назад

The Black Baron : Warum müssen die Telefone gemästet werden?

@wapiti3750 4 года назад

Ian looks like a baked out 70s hippie. His appearance disguises his true status as a grand master of old firearms!

@STRAKAZulu 4 года назад

This is information I'm sure my late grandfather would have loved to get. He collected a lot of WWII-era German arms, armor, and papers. Kinda sad that it was all sold "at cost" when he passed.

@zachhoward9099 4 года назад

Oh my God that's so awful, I'm sorry about your grandfather passing and his collection which he probably spent years assembling, to go for 'at cost' is insane

@metigame1450 4 года назад

Well u suck

@widgren87 4 года назад

"If you don't collect these, this is some pretty esoteric information and I'm impressed that you're still watching"... Compared to watching some of Lindybeige's 1+ hour videos this is nothing ;-) Still Ian makes good content that is easy and entertaining to watch.

@jacoposilvestri543 4 года назад

i want a gun jesus-lindy crossover episode

@widgren87 4 года назад

@@jacoposilvestri543 If that ends up happening and it becomes a tank-video then folks, grab your snacks and your drinks for we will be here for a while :-)

@widgren87 4 года назад

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Same to you :-)

@jacoposilvestri543 4 года назад

@@widgren87 would be a good time :)))

@widgren87 4 года назад

@@jacoposilvestri543 Oh yes it would ;-)

@superbun277 4 года назад

Walther Factory Worker, circa 1944: "Ve are losing dis war, ve need to speed up pistol production!" Another worker: "I know! Ve shall serialise ze pistols in MORE places!"

@KenworthW900HG 4 года назад

*zis ;)

@mrorangethecat4256 4 года назад

That’s the funniest think I’ve heard all week

@mrorangethecat4256 4 года назад

*thing.... f’n autocorrect

@painmagnet1 4 года назад

I'm not a fluent German speaker but 4:17 made me spit out my coffee all over the screen.

@stevejohnson6593 4 года назад

it's always a giggle to read comments about spitting out liquids, at least before you feel the slight panic of the person realizing they spat on an electronic device d:

@goodlifeFOB 4 года назад

"I'm impressed you are still watching" You can make everything interesting Ian Besides, you never know when you are going to need to verify WW2 German SS pistols

@Archangelm127 4 года назад

You know it's German if it's meticulously in ordnung and thoroughly overcomplicated. ^_^

@dorseyharrington 4 года назад

Just finished watching this and rushed to check out my late 30's vintage PP. It scored 100% as an SS-ordered PP var 3: 144590 P on the slide, Crown-N proofs, 144590 P / 1 (two lines) on the spine of the non-finger rest magazine, and the magazine font matches the slide font. Sadly, my late 30's vintage PPK does not have the correct magazine, so lightning didn't strike twice.

@galenw2339 4 года назад

Ian, do you know how to say “no” in German? Ian: yes, 4:18

@MrNathanDS 4 года назад

There has to be so many people digging through grandpa’s stuff looking for a Walther, then listening to Ian real off serial numbers like they are lottery numbers.

@ZinkyStinky 4 года назад

In you listen to the background, they're testing out the new sniffing gun.

@LipAllen 4 года назад

I went through the comments just to see if anyone else noticed lol

@yourstonersensei1907 4 года назад

Its pissing me off sniffing is the number 1 thing I hate

@Kolajer 4 года назад

Suppressed, with subsonic ammo by the sound of it

@Seb-Storm 4 года назад

You new to the channel? Almost all his videos have the sniffing sound, you'll get used to it eventually lol

@joevidya 4 года назад

It's tape, they are boxing up things at the auction house.

@oberlandarmshainich9191 4 года назад

The second SS Holster is the exact same design like the Bundeswehr P1 holster. I carried this very often on guard.

@AgentTexes 4 года назад

I love adding to my esoteric knowledge. It makes it so I can spout random bullshit at any time for no reason whatsoever.

@CeltKnight 4 года назад

As I watched this video, I dug out my Dural framed, late war (rough finish) PPK. Hmm ... SS guns with the K-followed serial number are in the range of 426712K ... Mine is 428xxxK ... damn ... As Maxwell Smart would say, Missed it by Thaaaaaaaat much! Oh, well, great video as always with a ton of good info on rare varieties of one of my favorite pistols!

@fordfan3179 4 года назад

If I start watching one of your videos, I finish watching it. I like the no nonsense way you deliver the information. It all makes great fodder for debate with my friends and relatives who collect all types of firearms. I think the history buff part of me is what keeps me coming back also.

@stevejohnson6593 4 года назад

I feel that. I like to call it knowledge mongering d:

@hockeytownluv2012 4 года назад

In Russia we have Jesus Gun not Gun Jesus

@pjyost9565 4 года назад

Is there any record of who these guns contracted by the SS were actually issued to?

@ERRr-nw5yi 4 года назад

Great Video. I find it a bit interesting thought that you totally failed to mention the books written on the subject. The Red book SS Walther PP/PPK 1939-1944 written by Joachim Gortz & Dieter H. Marschall or the Black book SS Walther PP/PPK Identification & Documents written by Steven Stepan. These wonderful gentlemen spent loads of time on research of the very subject. And some would say that most of the information that we have today is because of the very works that they undertook. Sorry to sound negative but, a small shout out would have been respectful in my opinion.

@Taistelukalkkuna 4 года назад

0:38 Ian, you probably mean SD, not SA. =)

@tywinlannister8015 4 года назад

Well even after the night of the long knives the SA kept on existing though would never again be as prominent as it was pre-war.

@Taistelukalkkuna 4 года назад

@@tywinlannister8015 Yes, but my point was that SA was different organization than SS and RSHA. So, in this context it is error.

@tywinlannister8015 4 года назад

@@Taistelukalkkuna Not certain. After the SS became the main political army of the Reich, the SA became a rather uncertain structure which IIRC was attached to the SS.

@BBossman1 4 года назад

I have little to no interest in these pistols, but I watch the majority of these videos in their entirety simply because I prefer to know a "little" about a lot as opposed to a lot about little...

@Gregiorp 4 года назад

I never understood why the Germans felt the need to serialize everything. Lugers were somewhat understandable but why bother with mags?

@stevejohnson6593 4 года назад

the best thing I can think of is identifying a 'bad'/ broken magazine from a good one if there are no further indicators to that, but I am not certain that serializing is worth the trouble just for that 🤔

@Josh-hr5mc 4 года назад

I owned an interarms PPKS years ago. I swear it was moody on what ammo it wanted. Felt like the spring came off a tractor trailer and a 17 pound trigger pull. Other than that great looking old gun

@michaelcapobianco5627 4 года назад

that american made one was a piece of shit. turned it back in for the german made, love it .

@mcchickenvlogs 4 года назад

My Great Grandfather came back from Italy after working with Military Intelligence and he brought a Walther PP with him. He said he got it in a POW camp full of Germans and Italians.

@TheVillainInGlasses 4 года назад

Is that a PP in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

@yvindalexanderfrivold 4 года назад

i think that last holster is desgned to allow for western style quick draw when the holster is open. i have one for a walther p1 so i guess german police continued to use these holsters.

@MrCanyons 4 года назад

I dont collect these pistols.. but if you can some day make a video like this on bulgarian Ar-sf (aks74u) that would be amazing.. because in america the kits we got dont have serial numbers that were like the ones in bulgaria.... we have few that look similar and most that are totally not correct.. Anyways great video thanks love geek info!

@dr.williamlutherpierce8720 4 года назад

Iv been carrying a S&W ppk for almost 10 years and put thousands of rounds through it and have NEVER had an issue. The ppk is a near perfect design and i would never part with it.

@nickverbree 4 года назад

Ian is clearly a wizard. How did he convince me to watch a 16 minute video on serial numbers when I have no interest in German pistols, let alone SS stuff? Yet here I am, at the end of the video thinking "that was really cool."

@raysmith1630 3 года назад

I always find your deep dives into obscure details about equipment related to the SS very interesting. Thanks Ian. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.

@liampetersen7548 4 года назад

Favorite James bond gun

@jayzenitram9621 4 года назад

I'm pretty sure he was more partial to his .25 caliber Beretta until they made him "upgrade" to .32.

@princeofcupspoc9073 4 года назад

@@jayzenitram9621 ... because all the gun-nuts KNOW that you need at least .38 for stopping power. (Morons.)

@TheFanatical1 4 года назад

why the heck doesn't walther make PPK models that look like this anymore.

@ericn7677 4 года назад

Ian, l thank you for providing details on a LOT of firearms. I know that I will never own most of them but it's nice to know about them...just in case. :)

@redram5150 4 года назад

"Known serial numbers are 838769 thru nein nein nein nein nein nein." Sorry, Ian, I didn't know it was such a touchy subject

@magritteetmoncouteau 4 года назад

I just bought my first PPK today in Brussels! Greetings from Belgium

@worldtraveler930 4 года назад

"All knowledge is useful for knowledge is Power" Benjamin Franklin.

@bulldowozer5858 4 года назад

Ian, this is the seventh time, this week, you have shown Walther PP and PPK, in class!

@rich105759 4 года назад

I’m really enjoying the PP/PPK guns. I watch Legacy Collectibles channel too! Keep them coming

@01Chris02 4 года назад

4:10 Ian: "The number range for this first variation are 838768 through NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN" #germanactivated

@GunsNGames1 4 года назад

*Hans, get ze Walther*

@AROHTOO 4 года назад

I did Nazi all those PP's coming lolol

@HappisakVideos 4 года назад

ACHTUNG! Ov to ze coner vith you and think upon the sin of your joke! XD.

@wadejustanamerican1201 4 года назад

You definitely went through some serious research, thank you. Also, just got a t-shirt good quality.

@MeFee100 4 года назад

Many Chinese small businesses produced fake SS stamps, has left the chat

@Cliffdog01 4 года назад

I'm not really interested in the collecting side, but I am always interested in the arms race of Collector and Forgers and how the later combats the former. So I found the police versions and seeing how a stamp looks when it is not to the standard of Walther to be very interesting.

@mickdyer5310 4 года назад

Ian, If you did a video detailing 9 mm magazines from 72 to 88 for example, I would still watch. I like your presenting style, The more esoteric the Better.

@JunkyardBashSteve 4 года назад

Why is it so hard to find a PPK in 32 that doesn’t tout itself as a WW2 military piece? For a gun they made a million of it sure is hard to find one for less than $2k

@Marc83Aus 4 года назад

6:43 is that an eagle stamped onto the slide?

@ZekeAxel 4 года назад

The SS are like. "Hans, order some holsters. But make them black! We don't use brown. We are edgy."

@captainsternn7684 4 года назад

This is 007 James Bond's main weapon known as the "PP7" in Goldeneye 64, do you think the Walther PP & PPK would be a great choice of firearm for a Spy?

@Bauglir100 3 года назад

In the books, Bond originally used a Beretta Model 418, but a firearms expert contacted Ian Fleming complaining about the weapon of choice and suggested switching to a Walther PPK instead. The expert’s name was Boothroyd, which then became the real name of Q.

@_Rated_R 4 года назад

Who else giggled a little when Ian says, "PP(s)"? 🤭

@samiam619 4 года назад

Rated 'R' No, the rest of us are grownups.

@Maeyanie 4 года назад

Seems like it would be possible to forge one of these by finding a non-SS gun in the right serial range and stamping the number in the places it's missing. Would have to be done well to not be obvious, but might be worth the cost.

@paullytle1904 4 года назад

Well then you'd have to refinish it which would be a giveaway

@marpsr 4 года назад

Just got a brand new stainless PPK. Such a beautiful gun.

@williamsullivan9401 4 года назад

I had a stainless PPK/S- one extra round in the magazine. Very accurate with Winchester ball .380.

@send2georgie_S2G 4 года назад

I don’t collect these. I only watched the entire video bcos the content was very very well delivered! Great vid again Gun Jesus! ;)

@DreiPPP 4 года назад

You are the Bob Ross of gun. Mad respect!

@Tesserae 4 года назад

As a related aside, I would heartily recommend Philip Kerr's "Berlin Noir" police procedurals with Bernie Gunther, a detective in Kripo (Kriminalpolizei) in the 1930s. I enjoyed the first three books.

@wastedmymind5463 4 года назад

I learned something wo who... and I’ll never use this information

@amorembalming 4 года назад

Dreadful history of these weapons, but as objects, they are beautiful. Really eloquently explained and fascinating info. Thank you for making these videos, so many of us really appreciate your enthusiasm and knowledge.

@flypaper2222 4 года назад

surprisingly only one that you showed had a RZM marking since the SS had everything produced for them ether stamped RZM or had attached RZM paper tags.

@flypaper2222 4 года назад

@Q Anon EVERYTHING that was produced for the SS had to have a RZM tag or stamp, I've seen belts holsters with the RZM logal pressed into the eater. Smaller items like buttons had paper RZM tags . Every company that produced for the SS had a RZM number assigned to them and appeared on the tags

@stevenpham1961 4 года назад

Walther makes premo equipment!

@balrajsingh-zp4wq 4 года назад

ਸਤਿ ਸ਼ੀ੍ ਆਕਾਲ ਵੀਰੇ ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਤੇਰਾ ਇਹ ਸਭ ਦੁਰਲੱਭ ਇਤਿਹਾਸਕ ਹਥਿਆਰਾਂ ਦੀਆ ਵੀਡੀਓ ਲੲੀ ਅਤੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਲਈ ।

@MichaelRobertson-i8f 2 месяца назад

Being 74 years old and around firearms all my life I got an FFL for Curro and Relics back in 2011 and would buy guns in Guns International from Italy and Germany: I was able to get a Erma Luger in the 9mm short or 380 Auto along with Berettas Model 70s in 380-32-22 models some with target barrels , the Walther models were in 32 and the 380 or 9mm short. I had a friend that had a Walther 22 target pistol that was used in the Olympics back in 1930s towards the end of that Decade but he passed away and wasn’t able to get my hands on it. I was able to shoot on the Rocketdyne pistol team when I was 17-18 years old and was exposed to the guns of those Gentlemen and have aquired Hi Standard Supermatic , Colt Woodsman Match and a Gold Cup Colt 45 Automatic which was fine tuned by the Colt’s Custom Shop before it was sold. Back in the day S&W K-22 and K-38 along with the N frame 45LC and the 45ACP were being made. Growing up in the 60s Sears had guns made for them JCHiggens and Ted Williams were stamped on the gun. Singer sewing machine actually made some 1911 45 Automatic’s during the War.

@faeembrugh 4 года назад

RHSA (Reichssicherheitshauptamt) was an amalgamation of the Gestapo (secret police), Sicherheitsdienst (SD, the Nazi intelligence service, NOT the SA), Sicherheitspolizei (SiPo, the security police) and Kriminalpolizei (Kripo, the criminal investigation police).

@mickobrien3156 Месяц назад

Idea: Replace screws with Phillips-Head ... for fun... so some people think... ah-ha... it's a fake. Idk why I find that amusing.

@jonbeck5945 4 года назад

I always watch all your videos to the end. I still find the videos informative. Even if it isn’t something I’m into. Thanks again for all the hard work you put into these videos Ian!

@peterdeyanov5056 2 месяца назад

Hello, I am subscribed to both your channels - Forgotten weapons and Legacy Collectible. I've been watching a lot of videos on Walter pistols recently but haven't found an explanation or missed it, why do some Walter PP and PPK pistols have a 90 degree safety switch position, others only 60 degrees? If there is a video that explains this technical difference, please send me a link. In this video, on 4:15 - 4:35, there's those two type of pistols.

@nicholascheadle5871 Год назад

So for a "P after" serial within 144,343 P -204,905 P... That does not have a serialized magazine may not be an SS contract pistol? Interesting.

@theactualtsl 4 года назад

“This is some pretty esoteric weapons” *proceeds to call them PP pistols*

@criffermaclennan 4 года назад

Reichssicherheitshauptamt....RSHA

@jeffwise6398 Год назад

I have a mid-war PPK (Serial 322,xxx k). It does not have the serial number stamped on the slide. However, it does have a "d" stamped above the frame serial number. It is a "d" if you're looking at the serial numbers upside-up rather than upside-down. Does anyone know what this additional stamp might mean?

@geraldlinhofer7931 3 года назад

The police was integrated into the SS in NAZI-Germany, so all Walther pistols issued to the police form 1936 to 1945 where SS-contracted pistols.

@LtCmdrGordon 4 года назад

Ian, thank you again for once more taking the time to show the true historical value of firearms. As an advocate for the hobby, I am proud to direct people to your work. Especially with highly educated and museum level collectors/ collections.

@Pavia1525 4 года назад

I have a 1940 PPK and 1944 PP both Nazi police issue, both from Legacy Collectibles. Any plans to look at Nazi police (Eagle C or F stamped) pistols?

@BatCaveOz 4 года назад

It seems like these have a lot of opportunities for hard to disprove fakes. (stamp the magazine and maybe the slide)

@turbogerbil2935 4 года назад

OK, is there going to be a closed-book test after the lesson....?

@theblackbaron4119 4 года назад

Yes, bend over....

@shawnr771 4 года назад

Essay.

@saxandphone6440 4 года назад

I am buying a war production Walther PP; it's all black and has no finger rest on the magazine, but I plan on getting some nicer grips and mags for it in the future. I am constantly saving up to buy a second Luger (something really fancy) but new items keep popping up and my OCD keeps telling me I need to finish my collection of German guns from the world wars. First it was a P38 and now a PP... there goes the $3000 I would have had for an early Swiss Luger lol. Oh well, can't really complain that there is too much stuff to collect. :)

@SoredaSamurai 4 года назад

What’s the biggest PP made?

@JohnDoe-ee6qs 4 года назад

But what of the Waffen SS ?, I am of the opinion that they were issued weapons out of German military contracts

@sanguinemoon9201 4 года назад

In the early days of the SS-VT they had separate procurement for waffen ss compared to the heer (regular army). Later it got more mixed up and stuff was pulled from all over the wehrmacht

@jerryjohnsonii4181 4 года назад

Very interesting an thanks for showing these awesome Walther PP and PPK's , Gun Jesus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@kaylamarie8309 4 года назад

Hmm..I have a Walther PPK with black grips that my Dad brought back but it's apparently just a regular German army pistol. It's serial number starts 381 and ends with the k at the end. No serial numbers on the mag (and no extra finger groove just flat) It does have the Nazi eagle on it in a couple of places. The finish is black but not rough. Suits me that it's not SS and potentially used in executions/murders of innocent people. Cool old piece though, I wouldn't take anything for it..been in my family forever :-)

@M.M.83-U 4 года назад

I dont collect german gun, however I like esotheric information very much. Thank you!

@johnstacy7902 4 года назад

My dad had one he bough from his neighbor in 1960. Had it chrome plated and sold it later.. :(

@bertvdlast 4 года назад

And used by James Bond!

@FINNIUSORION 2 года назад

My buddy has a Walther he said was brought home during ww2. Said he didn't know anything else about it. One day he finally showed it to me lol. Right on the side it says licensed by Walther then some company name and new haven Connecticut.. or something like that. I will never ask him to help me identify anything.

@laencleardale 4 года назад

Great video, interesting stuff. Just getting nightmares of my time in the army and Joe having serialized magazines to track.

@SewerRatsarepeopletoo 4 года назад

Impeccably maintained - you should save yourself a word Ian and just say "German".

@hanktorrance6855 4 года назад

History is always fascinating, thanks for the explanation

@johnlindemulded7566 4 года назад

For those of us that do collect these guns, this was a great video. Thanks keep up the great work

@jimhickman6278 2 года назад

I have a pp serial number 87873 no sn on slide / sn only on frame. Can you give approx date made. It is 32 cal.

@TreyWait 4 года назад

This all seems fairly easy to fake. It's just a question of getting a gun in the right number range then serializing its magazine using the proper font. I guess its a question of whether price difference is worth all the effort.

@brucewelty7684 3 года назад

I have always pronounced the manufacturers name as you do, I believe we are both in error? Is not "valhter" a more accurate rendition?

@lxtechmangood9503 2 года назад

Talk about some serious research and number crunching to find which are ss versions. Goes to show not a thrown together episodes from this font of knowledge