SSC 2022 Top 32 - MkLeo (Byleth) Vs. Onin (Steve) Smash Ultimate Tournament 

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"Building up 55% anytime he just vaguely wins neutral" describes Steve perfectly.

Leo's luck of dodging all these Steve players finally ran out

before smash con: 'don't worry, Leo will have an answer.' during this match: Leo: 'i don't have an answer.'

Probably the worst we’ve seen Leo get beaten

POV: You're very concerned about why a top 32 match between mkleo and a steve suddenly showed up in your recommended

This will be the moment leo decides to never lose to Steve again

I was waiting for Leo to finally face a top Steve in the new meta. I knew it would be interesting but… damn.

I’m not shocked by the result but Leo losing THIS badly is crazy. He got mu checked so hard

Wow the commentators were AMAZING at laying out the importance of this match at the start there.

I'm surprised Leo lost, but not surprised he lost to a Steve. lol

I don’t understand why everyone is saying “Ban Steve.” Leo clearly lost to an Alex player.

Leo's Tweet: "Yeah steve carries but i also didnt play good lmao"

idk how I feel about how such a defensive character like steve able to casually up tilt and up air someone for 43-67% damage every time he get hit with with just one them when his character can cut off all other approaches like that.

This was the first time Mkleo has played against a top Steve, Onin played amazing and capitalised on Leo's unfamiliarity with the matchup

Ok so ... the meta in Japan has been adapted to much more than over here. We have proto banham beating acola in a best to 10. We have Zackray defeating Shuton's Steve in a last game last stock grand finals situation with Zackray using Joker. The players over here in NA have not played against top level Steve's yet to be able to adapt but honestly, once the match up has been learned and people learn counter picks steve won't be an issue in the future of smash...but hes definitely going to cause top players to evolve their gameplay and actually force people to evolve their adaptability too.... but honestly... when Japan comes to the next Smash Major... we will be witnessing major upsets!!!

dont worry guys steve is fine. its fine. its all a meme.

Damn I saw a 10 minute set and was like poor omin, but got damn a 3-0 against Leo sheeshhhh

Not a lot of people are mentioning that Leo’s Byleth seemed pretty rusty today and yesterday against fatality. It has been a while since he’s played Byleth in tourney.

The fact that Onin won so handedly just shows that if Acola did come to smash con there's a good chance we may have had a Steve ditto in grands

To be honest, this looked more like a matchup check than Steve being broken. We’ll see if Leo gets a rematch later and is able to adapt

Leo casually getting decimated 3-0

Uh oh… we’re in some serious trouble. I thought the best player in the world would have an answer for Steve, but this man got swept so hard, I swear I was watching MKLeo’s first day of Smash Ultimate

I’ve never seen Leo get bodied like this😬

5:32 Leo’s reaction is the perfect representation of fighting FP2 characters

Never ask a Steve player what their results were prior to Steve.

Congrats to Onin. I love to see the respect he showed Leo after he won-no cocky popoff. You know Onin’s heart was pounding after just 3-0’ing the GOAT this set. Something I’ve always loved about Leo is that he carries himself gracefully and shows respect to everyone he plays, win or lose. Cool to see Onin do the same

The only other person that has beaten Leo this hard is Kurama

Leo: being completely fucked up with Byleth Also Leo: yeah, I’m gonna keep playing him in game 3

Perhaps the most depressing set in Smash Ultimate's history. Hope it's a one-thing though, Leo admitted himself he didn't play too well, I guess he will adapt/improve in this matchup in the future.

Still don't understand. This guy is very very young. He comes from a little place in Michigan so he didn't have opportunities to play Steve offline. He come to SSC and DESTROY everyone at his first offline competitive attempt. He even 3-gamed and 3-stocked Leo. Is he the greatest talent of all time or Steve had an unrevealed potential still had to be showed?

Imagine getting the most stylish kill anyone’s ever gotten on MKLeo and then wastinf resource-building time to TAUNT ON MKLEO. Absolute chad.

Game 4 MkLeo : Leave Steve to me. Game 3 MkLeo : Yeah... about that...

I think the way Steve plays in this game is exactly how Minecraft is as a game where the limit of things you can do is completely up to your imagination and ability to pull it off, and so his skill cap just goes so much further beyond any other character in the entire game

Bro half of y’all ain’t watching the same game I am. Game one Leo was meeting this dude in the air and on the ground and taking center at the perfect moments but he continuously got out-hit-boxed. The few moments he wasn’t he was capitalizing like a monster but nah getting up tilted at 0-55 in 3-4 hits yea that’s just bad matchup right there clear as day huh

Steve has the best mixups in the game. Leo didn't know what to expect half the time. Because he has SO many options and is quite a defensive character, he practically calls every neutral interaction. It's up to the pros to analyze all of Steve's options and capitalize on them. Not an easy thing to do consistently.

I honestly can’t believe that everyone is saying Steve is overpowered. It’s probably because his weakness is a character no one ever plays…. Sonic. Sonic is too fast for Steve to be able to mine anything

Wow increíble increíble. Buen play por parte de Onin. Un talento de Steve bien logrado. Felicidades

Before watching: "An eleven minute best-of-5 set featuring MkLeo's Byleth? Must've been one hell of an ass beating!" After watching: *Well, **_someone_** definitely got their ass beat...*

I clicked on this video expecting Leo to lose. Top level Steve is broken, players will be forced to admit it.

2022-2023 if Steve doesn't get nerfed, which he probably unfortunately wont, I lowkey see a future where he is at the same level as Bayo in S4 for MK in Brawl. This character's base toolkit is already crazy and the ceiling is absolutely insane, so when he gets properly optimized I would not be surprised to see him get banned, and honestly, I'd rather that than the scene to start fading due to the existence of such a polarizing character. Still too early, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't afraid of what's to come

8:10 "He's definitely prepared for this match!" He woke up 40 minutes before they played, ate a crunchwrap supreme, and didn't even warm up LOL. What a beast.

What’s crazy about this set is that Acola would have made it look worse. Better player and he might know the Byleth matchup thanks to Rizeasu, who also lives in Kansai.

Leoがスティーブに壊されるのは辛いな

People gonna blame Steve but honestly Leo looks like he has literally no MU experience 💀. Like tons of other players had at least taken a game off Onin, some taking 2. You could say Steve is a problem but here I gotta put the blame on Leo. Being the best doesn’t mean being infallible 🤷‍♀️

Just remember: Izaw thought steve was one of the worst characters in the game 💀

Beating Leo at the start of top 32 is one thing. 3-0'ing Leo is another thing. 3 STOCKING Leo in the last game is fucking crazy.

Steve aerials frame data is crazy! Side b and Dair are so strong. Great fight

At the end there, Leo definitely held toward the blast zone out of frustration.

Oh hey, Onin won game one with one stock, game two with two stocks and game three with three stocks.

The easiest way to beat Mkleo: break the smash ultimate mechanic.

Onin played amazing. Game 1 was close, and game 3 he read Leo like a book. Hope to see more of him!

I’ve never seen Leo look this helpless ever. Knowing him though he’ll probably 3-0 Onin the next time they play.

Im telling everyone, Mii Gunner with stealth bomber and reflector is the counter to steve. Stealth bomber is a fast projectile that ignores walls. You can pressure steve the moment he tries to mine

props to Super Girl Kels on commentary for being unbiased and hyped for anything that happened on this set

正直に言うけどleoよりoninの方がニュートラルで勝ってるように感じる スティーブのキャラパワー以前にoninの人のうまさにびっくりしたしleoがこんなプレイするとは思わんかった

Man, I was so sure that Onin was going to win, great job to Leo for clutching it out in the end!

Steve definitely forces experienced players to use completely different strategies than usual.

I don't know what's so impressive about Onin's Steve. Maybe someone else can see it? He just minecarts or anvils out of disadvantage, prioritizes mining, and has his uptilt combos down. His gimmicks with TNT and anvil on blocks are also good. But he's not even doing any of the tricky gameplay acola does. I think this just shows how broken minecart and anvil are and the speed at which Steve collects resources is insane.

普通にLeoの対策不足感すごいけどoninめちゃくちゃ上手い

I thought all these comments were trolling but I'm shocked Leo actually lost that badly

Minecraft has no official Esport scene....this makes up for it.

The first minute the commentators are talking about how we finally get to see Leo handle Steve LMAO

steve has to be the most interesting character to watch at a high level

これに関してはleoもスティーブ対策してない 嫌いなんだろうな

People talk about Steve being broken, but the obvious elephant in the room I hear nobody talk about... why should characters be allowed to rack 50%+ damage from any combo? When this game was designed, it was designed with the intention of set damage per hit, but suddenly a tilt now deals 50% damage(if the player knows how to perform certain combos). Banning Steve won't solve the problem, he's a symptom of the problem. We either need seasonal patching(they stopped before there was ample enough time to assess the dlc characters) or we need to add an entirely new game mechanic that counters your opponent's move if you predict your opponent's next 2 moves(even if you're trapped in a combo).

Bro, onin used to play so savage here, i dont know what happened.

7:16 omg that is crazy.

I don't understand why Leo doesn't make more tactical character swaps when he has so many characters he can play well. Byleth is a great spacing character that's good against aggressive rush down type characters... why is he running him against steve? Feel's like Mythra rush down or Joker spacing with guns would be superior here. Edit: I swear I wrote this before watching him 3-0 the steve as mythra/pyra in top 12.

in a shonen when you want to show how powerful a character is, you show how easily destroys the previous top threat poor Leo

MKLeo's wake up call for Ludwig's invitational.

steve fans like seeing their character wins, but not considering how this character destroying smash scene with the most "hype" match ever

Leo looked off of his game this tournament I hope he can shake it off and come back stronger next tourney. That said, Onin was an absolute menace! Unbelievable performance throughout the whole tourney, csn't wait to see more!

OMG, Byleth's Nair doesn't do anything to Steve while he is in the minecart!

Feels like joker would be the answer here, big brother counter to attempt to break combos and reflect mine cart, guns for extra random damage and a way to force an approach, and movement cuz diamond attacks are fast but Steve is kinda slow. Maybe I’m wrong but

When I watched MkLeo face off against Acola it seemed like whenever he got killed when his opponent was high damage percentage, he always found a way to kill them without taking any hits to sort of set it back to square one. Very interesting.

これはLeoのスティーブ対策不足が大きいだろう

You all should watch "Sumabato" Acola vs Miya that is very very high level of course vs leo

I’m generally surprised that MKleo didn’t practice his matches against Steve considering the fact that Steve is a popular pick now and days and most even considered him a high tier character. Hopefully other top tier players learn how to deal with Steve.

Leo played this incorrectly in my opinion. I have seen a top level Japanese Byleth (cannot find the vod, it’s one of the 8 hour long Japanese streams) nearly beat Acola. The difference was the Byleth was spacing Byleth nair in ways Steve has a hard time punishing. Here it felt like Leo was throwing out nair without spacing well or having a plan for how to follow up. Leo also got hit by obvious minecarts, anvils, and TNT gimmicks that players more experienced in the matchup would know how to avoid. Leo’s fundamentals are always godlike, but in this instance you have to know the Steve matchup. That’s what I think at least.

It’s funny because all Mkleo has to do is just switch to Steve, but he won’t go that low using a cheese character 🥴

Twitter gonna be mad af

A 11 minutes set, what a destruction game for Le... Wait, what?!

Según seo siguiente : 1)Leo dice que fue un "mal día" esa vez... Creo que más o menos fue lo que quizo decir 2)Al parecer por que hubo un tiempo de solo combates online(por COVID) cuando Steve salió literalmente todos los top players, dijeron :"no tiene buena movilidad es lento" y concluyeron que es un mal personaje. Por lo tanto todo el mundo ignoro a Steve creyendo que era tan malo como decían los top players en aquel tiempo. 3)Ahora que regresaron los torneos offline ;algunas personas aparecen demostrando grandes usos de Steve ya dicen esta OP, es tier 0,etc. Y una parte de la comunidad quiere banerlo, pero en realidad la respuesta es de tener tiempo para que todo el mundo se acostumbre al personaje que ELLOS MISMO OLVIDARON CREYENDO QUE ERA MALO... o al menos la gran parte que no sabe la mitad de elementos que afectan en un Match

Damn, Acola was just the prelude I guess... I don't know why he wasn't mentioned by the commentators at the beginning, but that Japanese player was on another level. Leo can't allow himself to struggle so much against Steve. This is one of the worst losses I've watched, maybe on par with Frostbite against Prodigy/Kurama.

1年後には全部スティーブになるんだろうな

but if you close your eyes...

Everyone saying Steve is broken takes away from the amazing setups Onin used.

Leo getting destroyed in 10 minutes and getting 3 stocked will 3/0 should be the video tittle

And then Leo demolished Acola.

at least no pop-off. Steve players are not allowed to pop off.

This match honestly annoyed the hell out of me because Leo got 3-0d and 3 stocked 3rd game this easily. You got other top players trying their hardest to beat Leo and then you got Onin who casually 3-0s him. Good stuff to Onin but Steve's a menace lmao

The audience didn’t even pop off that hard lmao if it was any character other than Steve maybe they would

Onin looked fresh but leo looked like he didn't sleep last night

Steve fans to leo: learn the Match up

I gotta say, I'd be up for one last patch. MINOR nerf to Steve and one last round of buffs

Remember when Leo said “learn the match up”

People trolling around with the "learn the matchup" slogan have no idea how irrelevant it is when it comes to Leo losing this match

Leo was off the mark so often, not so much in terms of spacing but in terms of just going for options that wouldn't work for the situation. Onin knew what Leo wanted but not vice versa.

The whole concept of "running away, hiding behind walls, and safely mining resources" goes against Super Smash Bros. It would have been more fun if Steve's opponent dropped materials when hit, similar to Coin Battle in Melee. Slowing down his mining speed is another suggestion. Honestly though, it feels like Steve was forced into this game and the developers dug themselves into a hole. It's hard to make a cool character when his entire design revolves around passively collecting blocks and building defensive walls. He would need a complete rework for people to not hate him.