Any chance of a worldwide Top 25(ish) parks video? I see a ton of ones from just N.America, but you seem to be the most travelled/worldly enthusiast YTer who could best summarize them...Thx + keep up the awesome work and videography!
In my opinion, the comments on Stampidas roughness are a bit overstated these days,. While I wouldn't call it smooth, it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be. After the ride received the KumbaK trains in 2007 through to 2014, the ride was unbareable, especially as the new trains apparently tear up the track bad. Druing the off seasons from 2014 to 2017, it recieved major retracking work (partially by GCI, partially by another 3rd party company) and it improved the ride massively and cven know the ride receives retracking work every couple of years It's a bit better now that the park is actually taking a bit more care of it, but it's still a far cry from how it use to run with the PTCs.
I was asking you why did you explain in this review of Stampida the reasons the trim brake was added to the first drop during the ride's second season?
I have contradicting feelings with this ride. The layout is good, even with the slow second half but it is unbelievably rough, i went on it in 2019 and it was bearable, but in 2022 it was so rough that it just hurt. You could blame it on the trains, as they feature no padding, as if you were literally sitting on a bench (i mean the seats do kind of look like benches). I still remember all my 4 rides in 2022, 3 on the first day and 1 on the second day i was at the park, i remember going on the red side and even before the train went down the first drop you could already feel and see the train violently bounce on the track (thats at least what it seemed like on the train), the turns are by far the roughest sections of the ride on both sides. The blue side was not only way slower than the red one due to its layout, but it just hurt even more, even at the slow parts where it isnt going along side the red side, and specially since it usually goes on the tighter side on those turns. Luckily i did get my night ride on Stampida (red side) and somehow it felt less rough and a bit faster (probably due to the fact you literally cant see) so i did kind of like it. IMO i still think that the ride performs well with the trims (that i didnt even know existed until now), i dont even want to know how rough it would be without them to be honest. I don't think this ride needs to be converted into a hybrid, but some new trains and a full re-tracking would do the work for some time. (yes, i cant make a good comment, sorry).
@@CanobieCoaster I know im like half a year late but i re-rode it in 2023 twice and it was definitely more bearable and a bit faster, they also put money into Tomahawk which was also less rough and they also re-tracked a turn... oh yeah it's back open in case you know what happened by the way.
I always thought this would be an interesting ride to RMC but after hearing about the laterals in the opening year I think it would be cool if they gave it GCI titan track and removed the trims.
I wonder how much of this rides issues could be solved with Titan Track or Topper Track and getting rid of the Kumbak trains. As we know Kumbak trains can ruin a ride, just look at Python at Efteling. Its a shame this is John Wardley's only Wood Coaster (I'm not sure if Wicker Man counts) because all his other designed rides are great. It it a shame Alton Towers never took him up on the cross valley wooden coaster or the Wallace and Gromit one.
What if rmc offers a package deal with the park...they rmc all 3 coasters...stampedia and the family coaster...that way ya get a brand new modern thrill coaster with inversions...while its smaller neighbor stays tame like the original...idk if that's possible...but that would be a fantastic outcome for the park going forward....
@@CanobieCoaster given how's the tracks are intertwined, modifying one will require modifying the others. But honestly, the blame for the awful state of the ride is entirely on the crappy trains.
I thought this ride was actually pretty fun. I didn’t find it too rough and it had some alright airtime and laterals. But I still think they should RMC it
If I tell you, I like the first drop on Stampida at PortAventura. What would you say, Canobie Coaster? A) Glad you do. For me, it's solid. B) Glad you do. For me, I'm not a big fan of it. It's underwhelming. C) Glad you do. For me, it's good. D) Glad you do. For me, it's brutal.
There is a quote in this video that said: Stampida opened with PTC trains, but in 2007 it received the Kumbak trains it has run ever since. If I ask you: How do you compare the Kumbak trains to the old and usual PTC trains? Canobie Coaster would answer: I prefer...
What do you think about the trimmed drop of Stampida at Port Aventura, the trimmed drop of Hell Cat at Clementon Park, and the trimmed drop of Excalibur at Valleyfair?
Imagine going to Spain and ride again three rough coasters, Stampida at Port Aventura, Furius Baco at Port Aventura, and Coaster Express at Parque Warner Madrid, what would you think about the three in roughness?
Canobie Coaster would say: This wood coaster does a lot of things well. I love the racing element and this ride has some wonderful laterals. However, the ride has a few flaws: One, the pacing. You don't have enough speed to appreciate the second half. Two, the airtime. Not all the hills and drops had the airtime I expected, I presume this due to the trim. Three... A) the smoothness B) the roughness This can be mitigated by riding in the front, but it can be a major issue further back in the train, and the complication is you can't always pick your seat. I just wish I could have experienced this ride in its opening year. CCI layouts usually feel out of control and I imagine it had that characteristic before the trims were added. And it probably ran at its smoothest too.
Imagine a quote that says: But back to the first drop. It's a straight one. Usually these give airtime on CCI woodies, but the trim kicks before you get those negative Gs. You then rise upwards getting semi sustained airtime on the front. You carry through a low minimally banked turn with good speed, with laterals particularly on the blue side since the turn is tighter. But...
Canobie Coaster would say: The Kumbak trains have open sides U shaped lap bar restraints, the latter has similar padding too. The ride is thankfully far more accommodating than those Intamin creations. The one thing to watch out is that the lap bar wants to lower during the bumpy parts. Therefore, I recommend holding onto it once checked. Otherwise you could easily get stapled, which can be quite painful during the rough patches. The best seat on this coaster by far is, the back?
Imagine a quote that Canobie Coaster would say: Once dispatched, you hear angry western bulls stampeding. You pass through the transfer track and go to the 26 m tall lift hill. It's decently fast (and when two trains are running on each side you go fast, then slower, then fast again). To the right you see the twisted mess of track and structure, and you're accompanying with the two trains racing. At the top, you turn right and come face to face to the biggest issue with the coaster... A) The first drop is too shallow to offer any airtime B) The trim brake, halfway down the first drop each side has a trim brake that kicks in and slows you down
Your most jackhammering coaster is a steel coaster or a wooden coaster like Stampida, and where is your most jackhammering coaster located, and the manufacturer
Canobie Coaster would say: The double up is followed by a turnaround, getting another dose of strong laterals. This time, the red side is on the inside so the forces are a bit better on that side. Next is the double down. The first hump has no airtime, but you do get a great headchopper with some supports. The second hump gives... A) sustained floater airtime in the back B) weak ejector airtime in the back C) a little pop of airtime in the back
In your review of stampida at Port Aventura, why did you explain about why was the trim brake installed on the first drop in each side shortly after opening?
Which change or modification did you like less, when they received the kumbak trains for the 2007 season or when the trim brakes were added to the first drop one year after its inaugural season?
Stampida at Port Aventura Hell Cat at Clementon Park Hurler at Carowinds Hurler at Kings Dominion Thunder Run at Kentucky Kingdom Cyclone at Six Flags New England Mighty Canadian Minebuster at Canada's Wonderland Which other coasters you've ridden in the world could you have liked to ride in its original form or in its opening year, example, coasters with airtime?
How many other roller coasters you've ridden in the world do you wish you could have liked the ride in its original form or in its opening year? Examples:
Canobie Coaster would say: Stampida at PortAventura. This CCI racing wooden coaster has so much potential. The racing aspect is excellent, since the trains and tracks are next to each other for much of the course. The ride has a neat layout and follows a convoluted course. The low turns and turnarounds give some wonderful laterals and the hills on the first half give some airtime. If I ask you, Canobie Coaster: Do you like how Stampida feels in terms of forces, airtime and laterals? Canobie Coaster would say: I just wish I could have experienced this ride in... A) 2015 B) 2006 C) 2001 D) Its opening year E) A summer event in 2012
Canobie Coaster would say: These brakes were added as an aftermath of an accident in the ride's first year, but they were also added to reduce wear and tear on the structure. That would not be the first moment to happen on a wooden coaster, but it was a solution the park needed to make the ride more reliable. If the ride was as aggresive and intense as it was in its opening year, it would have been a bear to maintain, especially on those turns. In theory, that should help the ride run more smoothly. I say that because Stampida has a bit of a reputation as... A) a smooth ride B) a rough ride
I like the first drop on Stampida. I like it, it has a trim brake, but it feels like dropping down to the ground and I think it has some airtime. What do you think about the drop for you?
Canobie Coaster would say: Stampida opened with PTC trains, but in 2007 the ride received the Kumbak trains it has run with ever since. Not many wood coasters run with these trains. The only other example I know of is Rutschebanen at Bakken. Each train is comprised of 6 cars. Each car has 2 rows of 2, much like the usual trains. But the seats and restraints remind me of what you find on Intamin pre-fab wood coasters. You have open sides and a U shaped lap bar. And the latter has very similar padding too. The ride is thankfully far more acommodating than those Intamin creations. The one thing to watch out for is that the lap bar can lower throughout the ride, and it wants to during the bumpy parts. Therefore, I would recommend holding onto it once checked. Otherwise, you could easily get stapled, which can be...
What do you think about both Stampida, the CCI racing wooden coaster at Port Aventura and Thunderhawk, the Vekoma suspended looping coaster at Michigan's Adventure, in smoothness or roughness?
What would you prefer, a racing wooden coaster with some airtime in the first hills and a crawling finale, or a racing wooden coaster with correct airtime and force feelings in all hills, including the hill finale?
This leads into the second turnaround with another dose of strong laterals. This time, the red side is on the inside, so the forces are a bit better on that side. Next comes the double down. The first hump has no airtime, but you do get a great headchopper with some supports. The second hump...
Canobie Coaster, Stampida at Port Aventura was not in your video of 25 worst roller coasters in the world (2020). Why? And the coasters placed in that video...
And why did you explain in this video the reasons why the trim brakes were added to the first drop, if most people and review videos didn't know that history?
Stampida at Port Aventura Hell Cat at Clementon Park Hurler at Carowinds Thunder Run at Kentucky Kingdom Which other coasters you've ridden in the world could you have liked in its original form or its original opening year?
Which Thunder Run could you have liked to ride in its original form or in its opening year, Thunder Run at Canada's Wonderland or Thunder Run at Kentucky Kingdom?
Nice review, I feel similarly about Stampida. The dueling keeps the ride fun and there’s a few nice moments but overall it definitely feels like it is way past its prime. Out of the existing wooden coasters I’ve experienced this is one of only two that I want to see get RMC’d. I don’t care if they go the one track or dueling track route, but right now Stampida is only decent and probably isn’t going to get any better. RMC Stampida I think would be the best coaster at the park and would be an excellent use of what is a pretty large structure.
While this is far from the most intense coaster I rode at PortAventura, I thought it was enjoyable. I got a back-row ride, which helped. It really didn't feel that rough to me, even in the back. Comparing it to, for instance, my ride on Boulder Dash last fall, it's far, far smoother than that. My main criticism of Stampida is that it has no bins on the platform. Because PortAventura's locker system is such a pain to use, this can be a serious problem. Most of their other coasters have bins.
@@CanobieCoaster I noticed they had a display specifically out in front of this one warning not to carry loose items on the ride (with a collection of smashed lost objects they'd picked up).
Stampida has to be the roughest ride I've ever ridden. The lapbars were so painful on my legs. The ride could be so cool with more banking added to it and different trains. I'm actually glad this one has trims because the roughness in the turns was so bad on my legs. The ride looks amazing, but could be so much better if they did a good retrack (Titan or Gravity Group) and added Millenium Flyers.
maybe the slowness is due to you visitng in the colder months? i imagine in summer it would run faster or it might be the wheels because i've been on grand national at blackpool and it is slower with more track and it never slew down on my visit it felt like it was getting faster the longer it was
Maybe if they change the trains get gg or gci to retrack/reprofiled some bits and maybe remove the trains and tweak the wheels so they don’t loose as much speed it would be better?
