Star Citizen 4.0 - This Might Just Change EVERYTHING 

4.0 has now been delayed

Seems like the whole dev team was in fact working on the singleplayer campaign and the PU was being run by a skeleton crew and now they finally moved all the devs to the PU

So Beta release scheduled for early 2050?

Logically, if flying solo, you would keep the ship depressurised so no fires could break out, except maybe the cockpit, unless the seats will supply oxygen too.

15 years later: This might be happening sooner than we expected. 🤣

Star Citizen 5.0; the ULTIMATE in realism. If you die in game, the game will actually kill the player in RL. Releasing worldwide in 2744!

"This might change everything!".....every patch, every jesus tech, every citizencon....perpetually 2 years from release, every year.

I played the Pyro demo last year but on a single instance it performed like Stanton does today. The exciting part was participating in the server mesh tests. We jumped to Pyto and Stanton with 1 solar system per instance initially. The other test was we ran Stanton meshed across 2 instances and it worked ok, and they pushed an instance almost to 800 players before it died. I think instances will start in the 200-400 player range when we start the next tests as that was when it was most stable in the short testing they ran opened to wave 1 a couple months ago. I expect they will open it up to more waves and live on PTU longer because of how complex it is and the need to load test it.

I HATE Star Citizen's push to have people play together... If I have free time I play a game. Being forced to team up makes it a complicated scheduling task, this ruins the fun before even starting the "game:.. Then when you don't your are at a disadvantage. A MASSIVE buzz kill.

I feel sorry for the people who literally died of old age since this game was first announced. I hope I live long enough to see it myself, but I'm not so sure I will.

Still waiting for the single player campaign. Backed this.. 10 years ago?.. not going to touch it till the campaign is out (v1.0, not early access) and has good reviews. Im still hoping for the best!

As with all things Star Citizen: I believe it when i see/play it myself.

I just can't with these CIG fluff pieces. I remember when Roberts claimed 4.0 was coming in 2017. "Pushing forward," my arse. Every time there's a wave of supposedly new features it triggers a "refactor" of everything in the game, which doesn't actually mean "refactor", it means starting over because CIG management have no clue what they're doing. But I'm sure nonsense like this will trigger a healthy funding spike, so job done.

Second system SOONER than you expected Obsi....? After more than a decade I'd say it's a bit later than I expected

I don’t really care about jump points, I just want server meshing working. I’m kinda tired of shooting the same un-responsive AI.

If they delivered the entire, completed game tomorrow it would still be much, much later than expected.

"is planned" "is being worked on" "in polishing" Just two more years bro, trust us!

I left this game about a year ago…after 12 years I had enough. Until the latest patch. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but it feels like an actual game now. It’s incredible how far it’s actually come. I’m cautiously optimistic. EDIT: nope. I fell for it again. Was flying toward a salvaging site and my vulture just blew up…nothing happened, just boom. Went to go retrieve my shit and my ship, once again blew up leaving the hangar. I have to let this go. Fuckin’ heartbreaking.

Pretty sure it's going to happen sooner than I expected. I don't expect it till the mid 2050's.

With the amount of people pouring millions of dollars into the game every month. Financially, business-wise, logically, it makes sense to keep it in alpha and make progress as slow as possible for as long the money inflow keeps up. It’s quite literally a money-printer at the moment as long as they keep selling ships.

I might give it a look when it gets into a stable, playable state

It's 100's of years into future, yet they don't have an automated water sprinkler system installed in the ships?

Logged in, tried to do a bounty mission, rubberbband into the ship I'm trying to fight and we both explode, I lose all my equipment. This is basically how the game has ACTUALLY been, in practice, for the last several major patches across the last several years. A while ago it was invisible asteroids. I don't care about the next headline anymore. The most expensive game on earth can't be played because of how buggy and broken it is. Do y'all seriously think they can rescue the server tic-rate from its abysmal single-digit numbers? It gets lower with every patch. I doubt server meshing will really do fuck all.

realistically, Pyro is going to be a murder-hobo wasteland. Once the novelty wears off... I'm just hoping that server meshing saves this game, and that they put someone relatively intelligent in charge of balancing the economy around gameplay instead of marketing.

“Sooner than expected” 😂😂😂

I believe it when me shit turns purple

Tbh, with Star Citizen, 4.0/Pyro could release in 5 years and still be sooner than most people expected

Watch the features as they slowly get moved back. Again.

4.0? We're still missing half the features from 3.23!

Ya sure, we were supposed to get Pyro two years ago... but now its somehow "coming soon"? Oh yeah that makes perfect sense

Star Citizen is like Space Engine; beautiful and impressive, but a tech demo more than a game. Thing is, Space Engine is up front and honest about it.

World peace and hunger will be solved before Star Citizen is feature complete.

I don't even know what SC is any more. It's nothing like what I backed originally, and the more things that keep getting layered on make it less and less like it. I just wanted to take missions at the bar and fly around dogfighting and blowing other ships up.

Keep in mind server meshing v1 won’t have any of the dynamic features OA mentioned. It will be static not dynamic at first and may only be just for jumping from Stanton to Pyro or vice versa. If that’s the case then each system will still be on a single game server and won’t provide any performance increases. However, they tested multiple static server meshed server configurations including multiple meshed servers for a single star system so it’s possible SMv1 could come with performance increases, we just won’t know for sure until the elaborate on SM in 4.0.

I was told 4.0 releases Q4 2018 it never did and then every year after it was "next year" pyro so I' ll believe it when I see it

I fail to see how just throwing more content at a fundamentally feature-incomplete game "changes everything". It just expands the available content, but it doesn't fundamentally advance the game.

I truly want and hope to see SC completed. I want to play. Can't yet. It's been like Fusion Technology in real life. Always 20 years away.

At first solo players will be stuck in smaller ships, but they have talked about having hireable npcs for crew at a future point.

Remeber that "2 years away from being 2 years away" meme? Well SC has transcended it into "15 years away from being 15 years away".

Sooner? lol. We expected it at the end of 2022, 2023 and now 2024.... Bruh. Controller support has also been all but abandoned. I wish I could get my $200 back.

2 down, 98 to go!

Calling it now, 4.0 will NOT come this year. They will come up with an excuse and delay it

In early 2014, over 10 years ago, I began my relationship with Star Citizen. One of the main reasons I got involved in this relationship, spending several hundred dollars to purchase a few spaceships, and thoroughly enjoying the graphics and imagination that this project offered to its fans, was because it served as a driver for my imagination and my love for everything related to space. Another aspect of this relationship was the promise made by the project leaders that VR would also be integrated into the game. "Oh my God," I told myself, "this will be amazing!" As of today, after more than a decade, when every self-respecting game is also presented in VR, only Star Citizen lags behind and disappoints a large portion of its fans. Tell me, please, is there any game in the world today with more potential for VR than this one? Look at DCS, look at MSFS 2020, and soon MSFS 2024. What is happening with the leaders of this project? Surely, they see what is happening in the world today. A huge disappointment, missing out on an enormous potential for new customers. It's truly a shame.

I try to play , I buy ships as 200 euro but, after 2 days of playng I ask for rfund- I think is a scam.

After 10+ years of development we have finally got two systems to travel between. So by my estimation we should have the full 70 star systems as originally promised sometime within the next 340 years or so. I'm getting hyped guys

Change everything? Yea, SURE. LMAO. This is Star Citizen. How long has this been in development now? How little work have they actually done to make them game playable? Damn near nothing. It's a laughing stock. To this day you can't walk around a station without fear of falling through the floor. Controls are horrendous and not smooth and fluid at all. The most basic things that should exist in a game aren't there. Problems out the ass.

@ObsidianAnt: come on, mate. After all these years you still don't make the difference between what CIG plans and promises as opposed to what they deliver? And usuall y late.

I could give a shit about a new system. Make the game playable and not an absolute buggy mess, and then I might be interested.

Sir, its nice to see that you are covering SC. I know that you arent exactly the most enthusiastic about SC, but you arent blindly hating. Hope to see more SC updates in the future, it seems there will be a lot of stuff coming this year :)

as a lone wolf player you'll have to pilot an x-wing with a R2-D2 unit in it

The year is 2035, "star citizen 15.0: THIS MIGHT JUST CHANGE EVERYTHING", 3 billion dollars spent on development, you can now buy the latest ship pack for $200,000 but only if you bought the 25 previous one for 50,000 each, this game is absolutely neither a scam nor vaporware

when or if, it officially releases as a completed product, I will consider giving it a shot...until then, well its been in development a long long time...

What’s gets me that ppl don’t see.. what’s it going to take another 20 years to make

As much as some say that resources that were put into SQ42 was a hinderance to SC, I feel many forget that just about everything they created for it, can be ported into the SC MMO. Or the tech that was needed to create it. We're already starting to see some of it. This should include the working NPC crew members that are needed to operate the larger ships in SQ42. I imagine they would do the same in SC. An entire solar system is another big step for us. All the AI tech, and the tools to create interactable NPC's with possible cut scenes for us. We really didn't lose anything by them changing focus on sSQ42. We just haven't seen it come to the verse yet. Its much easier to test and polish in an enclosed single player environment. If they port it over to the MMO, and it breaks, than its likely a networking issue, and much easier to find and fix the problem.

Nothing in Star Citizen is sooner than expected. Everything is too late and should've been out yearsa go.

"It might just change everything" is what people are saying ever since there are patches for SC. It's really gotten old and it never is true. I played a bit yesterday and it is in just the same bad state it was two years ago. Lots of development, little evolution. But hey, the next patch might just change everything. It just wont change CIG or Chris Roberts.... And a species the has colonized half a galaxy that is not capable of building ship protection against solar burst is either not very plausible or just stupid.

It all sounds like a tech demo still. Where's all of the content? The game looks so empty.

This has got to be like the 25th “this update will change everything” video I’ve seen in the past 10 years of this game’s development

Lol what an absolute modern day scam. Fair play to the creators, have made millions on a never ending development game. Good business model. I've thought about starting a game this way on kick starter with a few friends, promise the world and lie about when it's gone to get done, just string it along for 2 or 3 decades and just put out pre alpha tech demos every now and then

This is how you do ship interior gameplay! Manning a large ship is half the fun of having a large ship. Glad we can finally see a game implement something like this. Every Elite fan saying that ship interiors couldn't provide meaningful gameplay was coping. A little imagination is all it takes.

Groovy! Every one wanted to be Scotty on Star Trek!? :D Solution for solo player fire outburst: In case of fire, shoot a hole in your ship windscreen! 👍🏻 Problem solved! (Putting your spacesuit helmet on beforehand highly recommended, but optional)

I'm feeling old.

They get on fixing everyting they broke with 3.23 before releasing pyro. Stanton should have all its gameplay loops working 100% without glitches before they add Pyro and its gameplay loops. Right now cargo is broken, minings broken, a fair bit of bunker missions are fully broken/unplayable as enemies do not spawn in (Orison Platforms). That's is just the very tip of the iceberg right now.

The plan is to discourage single players from flying large ships solo, for balance I think. The idea is that you can't just go out and buy a capital ship and wreck havoc. You need a crew, a plan, and resources to fly and defend that ship. It's a very different approach than other space games but I like the concept at least I know they said eventually they'll have NPCs that you can hire as crew if you just don't want to interact with other players or if schedules don't line up with your friends/org members or whatever. But who knows when or if that be put in.

Another thing I would point out is that SQ42 is by no means guaranteed to be GOTY 2025, and if there’s one thing Chris Roberts is good at, it’s marketing.

Correction: Star Citizen ALPHA 4.0. It's NOT the fourth release version.

This is very bizzare. I have watched Star Citizen videos for years. I will typically start binging, even while I am at work I listen. I even hit the last 24 hour filter to keep up to date. Yet not once has Obsidiant popped up. In fact I only found it through some other youtuber. The samething happens to my chann3l. I wonder what weird algorythme youtube has that does this to some and not others. So frusterating

I can confirm that server meshing works, as I was one of the first players to make the jump through the Stanton gate to Pyro a couple of months ago during the multi server meshed test. It was janky without the jump effects or sounds, but it worked and I seamlessly made the jump into Pyro without any loading screens, and went on to land on Pyro III (Bloom). I have no doubt that Pyro will be released before CitizenCon this year, with a load of 3.23.2 cargo testing and release upcoming alongside it, then the full 4.0 will be mostly about that new system above all. Those who doubt, prepare to be surprised.. the new system is coming.

A good way to balance the ship management mechanics for solo players without limiting their gameplay to the smallest ships would be AI companions, which could perform these tasks. However, given the rate at which SC development progresses, I don't believe this can be implemented if we're to expect a pre-2044 release.

Whilst we might see 4.0 in EPTU/PTU later this year, let's see what gets dropped from the roadmap first! Even if 4.0 makes the PU, it likely will be very rough. - Replication layer is a bit "dicky" at the moment - If left unresolved, I expect this to get worse with server meshing, where more game servers will be talking at the replication layer - Sometimes accepted missions take 10+ mins to actually show up in your accepted missions tab; On planetary / moon outposts, it has taken a couple of minutes for the buildings and other assets to show up half the time! - Also: 3,23 feature - No Persistent Hangars and/or Cargo Elevators in there yet. Let's have those in and working before getting 4.0!

ah dunno everybody says over the course of 10 years that everything might change. At the end never anything rly changed over the course of 10 years it never got faster or slower and game breaking bugs are a Standard for each patch . With this speed they surley will achieve something in 20 years that will be less buggy and stable to play . 3-5 Years is very unrealistical if you consider their previous development queue . Server Meshing will atleast proof that you can modifie a 15 year old engine and make it run huge online cloud tech servers.

it's fascinating how they are adding so many complex mechanics while having zero idea how it's actually going to play out. it's like the game doesn't have an expected gameplay loop where those mechanics would apply, they just exist.

"Happening sooner than many of us expected..." LOL.

All well and good with the fire tech and engineering tech. But like you say how do the solo players cope? Would be nice to see AI crew (even if just basic) for now to help out on multi crew ships. Not everyone has mates that also play this game sadly.

I was trying to remember why I'd written star citizen off given all the cool stuff you'd mentioned. Then you started talking about buying ship packages for money and I went "Oh yeah, that why".

So as far as I understand with the new hazards like fire and whatnot, ship that say they have a minimum crew will need that minimum crew count. So I'm feeling like it is a way to keep the ship matrix specs true at least for crew sizes.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this game for 10+ years, already.

From the last Jump Point Test, all the moons for Pyro V were in game and visitable. They just did not have the markers to quantum to the outposts, so we had to scan for them manually.

Is this like fusion technology? Always 'x-amount of years away'...

Nice! Gonna be a whole different game, by time I log into it again lol. Last sign in date? Sometime around Spring/ Summer, last year. Vowed I am not signing back in until I can finally, once and for all, save progress. Which means I will be signing into S42 before I ever sign into SC again. I can only play the "Insanity" bit so many times. Nobody plays a game to start over every time they log in again lol. And if Elite plays their cards right? I will never sign into SC again haha. Even though I threw down 1100.00 between 2015 and 2020, plus a GTX 980 PC that was SC worthy for when it would eventually release, which was supposed to have been a hell of a lot sooner, back when people were planning their SC rigs.

The game has come such a long way, I’m thankful for ED for introducing me to space games but SC is where I’ll be landing.

Im from the future letting you know its not happening.

playing it the passed few days on the free fly to see if i want to pay for it, although i like it, the missions are bugged. courier missions dont have the package i need to pick up, investigation mission i found the person updated like you are mean to, and nothing happened. in till these sorts of things are working i wont be playing.

Ai crewmembers will take care of the other stuff while you fly or even let them fly and take care of stuff. There are some videos explaining NPC crewmembers, @ObsidianAnt

Guess it will take another 10 years for the next star system to come.

What happened to all the ‘Im Fine With Waiting Until a Game is Done’ talk after Cyberpunk release 😄 but I’m perfectly fine with waiting as what SC devs are trying to accomplish is an enormous step forward for video games and server tech in general, too far ahead of it’s time really and so here we sit and wait while tech catches up, slowly…

If (and this is a big if) all of this is delivered on time, it will be two systems down, only forty-eight to go before full release.

we still have to get personal hangers and cargo elevators before 4.0, they are committing to Polaris being flyable at IAE and im so hopeful for them to keep their word. so far we have gotten everything they said we would from citcon with hangers and cargo being slightly delayed to a 3.23.x patch

The solar burst. Looks to me like it's a technical method to mask something. Maybe some sort of cache flush or tile loading. At this point it doesnt seem to be anything other than a solar system querk that just whites out the screen and maybe affords a moment to effectivly load something in. If thats an inventive way of masking some loading, then bravo to be honest. It'll be interesting to see its frequincy. I'm sure it'll have a pattern.

I tried to play SC five times in the last week, and every single time I couldnt get anywhere because of glitches. There's nothing to be excited about here.

When this game comes out is when I think it should be covered.

Multi-Crew needs to be a requirement for larger ships. This is a must. Must must must must. There are too many MMOs that have completely negated their own existence by providing absolutely no incentive for playing with other people.

I was getting ready for the tobii ad to drop :D

Great so another 1000 years before the next 98 star systems are introduced.

Sooner than we expected... I expected it in 2017 just like cig told me so no not really.

Humankind will be colonizing alien worlds and traveling faster than light, before star citizen will be released.

It’s become the spinal tap of the space genre.

When i see all the stuttering and timeouts and disconnects i see returning after a couple of years i have not that much ambition to explore pyro. I think Starship Simulator is a much better bet for the next few years. CIG can name it what they want. But sptepping forward so far happens I very small steps. They cook with water like all others do.

I want robots in the game that you can purchase and customize. They would serve as crew and security drones. It would depend on advanced AI though which I feel can be accomplished with the latest tech.

I’m not going to lie, the way they’ve panhandled for those ships over the years has been obscene, and ten years is taking the p*ss - but it does look amazing. I feel like I might actually buy this in a year or so.