Star Trails recorded in Australia and Arizona, USA. Stars are moving like in Mirror not upside down like they should on Globe. !!!All cardinal Directions. We don't know what is sky,stars, it cant have any effect on shape of Flat Earth.
I'm surprised that you went through all this effort but failed to compare the most important images, south hemisphere facing south (clockwise rotation) and north hemisphere facing north (ccw), where the opposite rotation of the two poles is made evident. It's the right footage edited in a less than ideal way. Anyway you proved the rotation of the globe. This and the fact that the stars we see are different from each position are great evidence of the globe. thanks.
@@erickedmondromanharris1549 He keeps saying perspective, yet seems to have no understanding about perspective. And at 2:24 he shows an illustration of how a dome would show two curves like that, while ignoring all the other problems that illustration gives his flat earth idea. Here are three obvious huge flaws: 1. According to the illustration, the northern star must be near the edge of the flat earth, yet when you stand near the northern pole, the northern star appears to be almost directly up. 2. According to the illustration, the southern pole stars can not be visible from anywhere, yet clearly they are. 3. According to the illustration, the southern stars can only be seen south of one side of the flat earth at a time. Yet in reality, people can see the same southern stars to the south from South-Africa, South-America and Australia at the same time. This is the problem when you create an add hawk explanation. It only explains one single aspect of a phenomena. As soon as you consider the other aspects of it, it falls apart. As for the glass bowl thing, no that's not how refraction works. It's difficult to explain exactly why he's got this add hawk explanation so wrong without being able to illustrate it for you, but like the previous example, this excuse falls apart as soon as you test it in any way. For example, the bowl idea should only create one curving pattern, not two. Also, this explanation directly contradicts the previous explanation. And then for the duplicate image in a curved mirror. Where do I even begin. The sky's a mirror now? What? And if this is the case, why can't we see the same stars duplicated from various points on earth? And this warped mirror sky idea again directly contradicts the previous two explanations. I don't know how a person can find any of these explanations satisfying.
Erick Edmond Roman Harris Haha. What lies? Yall say to use your senses and evidence and all that, this is clear evidence while yalls "proof" is some jacked up theories.
@@erickedmondromanharris1549 I know this is a 2 year old comment, but there’s no reason to lie doofus. If anything flat earthers are lying. Even if y’all were to be sent up into space and see Earth with your own eyes, y’all will still try to find some reason to claim a flat earth. Lying about Earth’s shape is so trivial, what’s the reason??? And don’t say to hide God because you all are trying to undermine God’s power.
Looking west: Arizona: C.Clockwise NSW: Clockwise Looking east: Arizona: C.Clockwise NSW: Clockwise Looking north: Arizona: C.Clockwise NSW: C.Clockwise This is because you are observing along the axis of rotation. Looking south: Arizona: Clockwise NSW: Clockwise Again, because it's being observed along axis of rotation.
At the equator the trails are straight overhead. Looking north or south from the equator the trails curve, until they reach their celestial poles. Hence, looking south they rotate as the sun does, low on the horizon looking south it is left to right/east to west. Looking north they go east to west, but it I right to left. Globe fact
this video documents perhaps the most unexplainable thing of nature for a flat earth model, and that's the southern celestial pole that can be seen from anywhere south of the Equator, unlike Polaris by the way. Flat Earth does not hold to basic astronomical observation.
Explaining what the sky does is different from the shape of the earth. If you try to use the sky to prove the shape of the earth, you lose. Just like we learn in school that boats go out of view because of the curve. Total lie. The sky is not our domain and is fundamentally unexplainable.
Proves that the celestial sphere moves and not the earth, and that it is within the earth as Gods Word says it is. Knowest thou THE ORDINANCES OF HEAVEN? CANST THOU SET THE DOMINION THEREOF IN THE EARTH? 2 And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, FROM GOING TO AND FRO IN THE EARTH, AND FROM WALKING UP AND DOWN IN IT. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great IN THE EARTH, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. To fetch about this form of speech hath thy servant Joab done this thing: and my lord is wise, according to the wisdom of an angel of God, to know all things that are IN THE EARTH. Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is IN THE HEAVEN AND IN THE EARTH is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all. And said, O LORD God of Israel, there is no God like thee IN THE HEAVEN, nor IN THE EARTH; which keepest Though the root thereof wax old IN THE EARTH, and the stock thereof die in the ground; etc etc etc
@Matthew Morycinski I dont think you want the answer because it is obvious that if the celestial sphere rotates within a concave earth it will be going in opposite directions at each pole
Margs oh he wants the answer, you just can't give it. Because a flat earth under a dome can't have two poles rotating opposite! Impossible. You can provide no model where a celestial sphere will show what is actually observed in both hemispheres at night
@@tvmystery261 : they don't leave the hemisphere. It's a different set of stars visible in the Northern and Southern hemisphere. At the equator, they appear to move directly across the sky... no circle.
Synopsis: The stars in the sky look exactly as we would expect on a rotating globe. Flat Earthers can't explain the southern stars based on their model.
I see that in the video taken from Australia, when looking North, the stars trail is CounterClockwise (for me is the opposite of the expected movement), and when looking to the East, West and South, the stars trail is Clockwise (as expected). In the video taken from Arizona, the stars trail is Clockwise, when looking South (for me is the opposite of the expected movement) and CounterClockwise when looking to the Esat, West, and North (as expected). It would be very interesting to take two videos of all the sky with a wide angle lens camera to cover 180 degrees of the sky: One video from the North Hemisphere and another one from the South Hemisfere.
If you were in an open enough area, you would see towards the north the stars "travel" c.clockwise and to the south they would travel Clockwise. The stars overhead would "travel" east to west from one horizon to the next. The view at 45° wouldn't be any different, would just matter which direction is being observed overall between north and south. Along the equator, looking on a 45° angle upwards and towards the east you would see the stars spread out over from the horizon overhead and then taper back into the horizon to the west.
Because the stars are a very very long way away. In 6 months we move 186 million miles from one side of the sun to the other. The nearest stars are 25 million million miles away.
@@brownsnake0400 the sky is moving, not the earth. We are in a containment field and the sky is a holography. No one has ever gone beyond the dome or Dyson shell or whatever barrier there is, therefore, no one has a clue what shape the earth is. All globe pictures of the earth are CGI (prove me wrong). We've had 80 years of "space travel" and not a single raw photo of the globe exists. Why? All the international space station people have to do (if there is such a place) is turn around and take a photo. That alone would discredit all FE arguments. But... That's never happened.
The opposite directions of both sides are very interesting. In my very low science knowledge I feel like the directions on nothern facing north and southern facing the south would be same on the globe. I like to know why
I was expecting this too, but we both were wrong.. take your phone, turn camera on, look up and start rotating whatever side you want, then look down rotating the same direction, you will see that images from up and down rotate opposite directions
Exactly. Do it with a globe to make it easiest. Rotate it west to east and stare at the north pole. Notice that it is spinning counter-clockwise. Now continue rotating the globe from west to east but stare at the south pole. Notice how it's now rotating clockwise... Also notice how, because the earth is rotating from west to east, the apparent motion of the stars is to go from east to west. It all makes perfect sense on the globe model. The FE model contends that the Zillion stars in the sky are all miraculously locked together, completing concentric circles of various sizes every 24 hours and never changing constellation.
@@erickedmondromanharris1549 U cant even show the true size of the sun as u never use filters. If that is so hard for u...watch the moon instead. It doesnt ever get smaller closer to the horizon
There are 2 different systems of stars, yep,, Film the stars at the equator looking straight up and you'll see,,its worth the trip and truly amazing if you film it in timelapse
what a dumbass hahaha they think this video is in the case of flatearthers and they dont know is the confirmation of a glob this proof wht a level of IQ the flatearther have
when i hear a flat earther trying to explain basically anything for reason im reminded of this clip. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OZeHq7J9aHM.html
not if the aether is moving opposite, starting at the point of circular area, divide into to centralised sections, with even area. diameter times sin 45 gives the halfway, area diameter.
To everyone living in the northern hemisphere, this is what we see in the southern hemisphere, stars rotating around the south pole. Satellite's, plane's at flight according to thier flight plan. If you had reson to investigate deeper. Southern lights following a solar wind burst. That was seen easily from the north island Auckland. There is no reason to have delusional issues here in the South. I am about to do star trails hopefully I will get a chance when down in south island.
Good job my boy, you just proved the stars revolve the other way around in the southern hemisphere around a different celestial pole, and so Earth cannot be flat. Well done ! Just check how the celestial sphere works and how is it completely charted and verifiable from anywhere around the world before using timelapses that disprove you to show everyone you just lack basic knowledge and visualisation skills.
not only that, but flat earthers claim that "there is no center of star rotations in south"!!!! they completely lie about south hemisfere, alllll, cos not many people live there and flat earth movement is north hemisfere movement
@@tvmystery261 Reading my comment, I apparently assumed you were a flerf, when you're not. Please accept my apologies, still a nice timelapse, a nail in the flerf coffin !
@@daddy3982 i was from 2014 , from beggining of movement, then i met dubay, and later 2016 i realised how weak are those proofs and fake, especially about south hemisphere. But im not solar system believer also. Both theories are misleading
I had a Australian flat earthers tell me that the stars prove its flat because of Polaris and I asked her when did she ever see Polaris in Australia and she asked what I meant 😂 told her to stop watching the stars on RU-vid and go look outside and try and find Polaris for me lol won't find it where we live lol
This is because you are looking in opposite directions. In each video, you are looking at the opposite circumpolar stars which have different constellations, nebulas, and galaxies. This phenomena further proves that we are on a sphere and it is spinning.
it is exactly flat... The west direction in flat earth for these two places is in the opposite. Where you look the sky in Australia west, the same direction on the sky for America is... east... Look at a flat earth map! All are correct !
The reason for the "mirror image" effect is simple; both long exposure POV's are looking north and south, respectively, yet the stars across both hemispheres still move along an *east to west* orientation! Derp. The very fact that *lines of longitude* in the southern skies *converge* in on a celestial pivot point (directly above the south terrestrial pole), as opposed to *diverging* radially out in a horizontal, omnidirectional clusterfuck smeared all over the 360 degree panorama proves earth's rotundity beyond all shadow of a doubt. Furthermore, the altitude of the south celestial pole from the horizon (and thus it's degrees from the local zenith) corresponds perfectly with the observer's *latitude.* The sky is a *celestial sphere* that can ONLY be accurately translated into a *star globe...* NOT a star "dome." Lmao!!
Just like to point out that if the earth was turning, you should see a lateral / horizontal time lapse due to earth's movement around the star ... that is 2 distinct movements not just rotation. Don't forget it's supposed to move at 66'000 miles an hour, during an 8 hour night that is 528'000 miles, that is 66.6 Earth's side by side. That it has to traverse and not just turn in a circle. Yet nothing you should have a horizontal timelapse sad face from the stars not a circle. It's showing you all that the Heliocentric model is wrong. Don't forget it's a fixed camera people.
Why do you ignore the fact that the stars are also moving in the same direction and relative speed as the earth does around the center of our galaxy, and the fact they are light years far away from us?
@jo kuiper you answered your own question 3 years ago. If the stars were moving at a similar rate of speed as the earth, we wouldn’t see any star trails. And if the earth was really moving as fast as “they” say, do you really think the stars would be in the same positions they were in 1000s if years ago? The heliocentric model is ballix. The earth is stationary.
@@dominotruth hey I I don’t believe in the heliocentric model, I’ve studied the flat earth model quite extensively. One of the reasons I’m on this video. How does the flat earth model explain the souther stars.? In every model I only see the northern ones
@@dominotruth : The stars are not precisely in the same position they were in 20K years ago... but the difference is just a few degrees. The distances we are from these stars is vast. It takes 4 years for light from the nearest star to reach us. It would take 100's of thousands of years to start noticing a significant change in the position of most stars. The star trails we see are not due to the motions of the stars. It is due to the rotation of the Earth. 1 light year is 6 trillion miles. The diameter of Earth's orbit around the sun is under 200 million miles. Most stars are 10 trillion to 80 trillion miles away. The motion of the Earth is barely a blip in the scale of things.
FLAT We would have different stars in summer and in winter if we rotate around Sun. We just dont know what is sky or stars. They look like in mirror....
So theres an option in professional photo editors that is called 'star swirl' Unless youre on the north or south pole the center of the stars will never be at the same center as the lens Gonna need better proof before I entertain your logic, my friend No harm intended :)
it's really just perspective and refraction... no big deal. Just hard to figure out in retrograde. Maybe film adjacent cities all around the world at once so refraction can carry around the sides and see where the stars go.
@@tvmystery261 I’m surprised you said you researched flat earth, and met Dubay. But you never got an answer on southern star rotation? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t30-YbayyXE.html
Watch FTFE, MCToon, and the ex flerfs are Rachie00000 and Ranty. Soon to be Jeranism and all other flerfs because of "the final experiment". Che k these channels
There is no 24 hours of day in South. Not in any country either, if there were in a South Pole a 24 hour sun day then there would in argentina and chile as well as new zeland and australia. It doesn't happen. It's a hoax.
@@erickedmondromanharris1549 You would need to go further south to experience 24 hours of daylight in the southern hemisphere. You can only experience 24 hours of daylight once you pass 66.5 degree of longitude EITHER SOUTH OR NORTH. The southern tip of South America is the closest but still only at roughly 57 degrees South. Antarctica is the only place in the southern hemisphere where you can experience 24 hours of daylight. I know you are probably afraid to try to journey to Antarctica cause its "really an ice wall that the government protects" or some dumb shit like that. But it does prove that earth must be a globe and not flat.
earth spin 2 side ??????????????????? These star trails would not be possible taking time lapse photography if the earth was spinning and orbiting. The earth is stationary. All stars and planets rotate in unison in around the North Star. They maintain their proportionate distances to each other as they rotate. They never get closer or further away to each other. This would not be possible get this picture because of parallax.
THANK YOU!!!!! This confirms what I have been looking into. I started looking at Stellarium Software to see if I could find mirrored similarities. I looked at Ursa Major in the northern hemisphere and if you mirror that image then rotate it 180 degrees there is a star cluster almost same shape and position, like if you looked into a spoon which you could say is a portion of a dome. Also the constellation Cassiopeia is in near the same spot as The Southern Cross. I took it further and made a SMALL model with stars at top and recorded reflection with my phone inside the dome on a lazy susan geo location shifter which answered the troll Gerard Frensons question on how can we see the same constellations when looking three different directions on the flat earth, he went totally cut and paste nuts in the comments LOL. Found you at jazla111 Thumbs Up And Subscribed :)
I started to think that way yes. When I checked the idea with Stellarium it confirmed it to me, then a further confirmation with the model I built. The model is in no way sophisticated but it shows at least how stars follow you around like if you could move from Australia to South Africa as if on a record player turntable, the curved reflective surface.mirrors the stars at your vantage point. Also (In the model) as you leave the stars still and move your geo location clockwise the stars rotation then in the reflection go anti clockwise and the stars position match up with stellarium as well. If you want links to the vids I'll drop them here :)
Exactly. I also did a video (I'm not saying it's correct or not) where I was checking out in a low end 3D program if I could morph Cassiopeia into The Southern Cross. I got it by changing the view angle a bit. It was just a matter of how the stars were arranged, I didn't get them perfect but it was a time consuming battle to get as far as I got..
No Fanfare yes because nothing says good science like, if you change this to that and stand over there it almost looks the same. Seriously, what’s wrong with believing in god AND accepting the earth in a globe.
If you compare the footage of looking north to looking south in Australia, there is something strange about the movement of the stars. It looks impossible the two different archs they are making, there is something not honest about your footage. The arch the stars are making looking north do not match the arch the stars are making looking south in Australia, what funny business are you doing here?
Thank you so much for this video. This has got to be the coolest video on youtube. This proves that the Earth is a globe. It's simply amazing! And the night sky is amazing. God's creation is amazing! Thank you so much!
@@seansmith6380 point of video is that alll directions are recorded, from australia and north america and compared. fact that you ask such a question, only proves that you didnt say video .
@@gameoforbits3783 yes, any astronemer can do as he pleases, you believe in Nasa, so that's what pleases you. Search for a youtube video called "stars are not what you think" it's not even 10 minutes long.
@@tvmystery261 It is not debunked. Globe earthers can't explain why the southern hemisphere is so much bigger than the notherm. You can't even explain phenomenon on earth let alone how the sky works. The sky is unknowable to us.
Its a pitty the only person who overstands this has been given the Job of stating he is the Messiah? This is the inverted world we live in? Theirs always a cost to information/Truth
We are in a Torus hologram folks . Two opposing vortices stacked one n top of the other . Its both flat and global at the same time just like the stars rotate clockwise country clockwise at her SAME TIME . In one single motion we get two opposite direction . Like when we walk for example , our arms and legs move in opposite directions . Our arms arm the upper vortex and the legs are the lower set .
*+mils* Seriously, think for just one second: All stars (both circumpolar and equatorial) move along an *east to west* orientation; they all move in the *exact same direction.* The only difference is that a) both hemispheres are quite literally *upside down* relative to one another, and b) the perspective (i.e. north or south POV) has changed. It's how we get the *Coriolis effect.*
the problem with these videos and images of theses star trails is they're not truly circling the way the camera presents them to be, the fisheye lens is warping the apparent star paths to appear circular to the camera.
So how we have the same effect in north and south celestial pole? If what are you claiming is true, we should have different star trails in north and south, considering that it's the same camera
Referring to your description, everything is upside down in the Southern Hemisphere. Star constellations, the moon, and the planets. You literally are proving a globe Earth with this. Stars shouldn’t move at all on a flat Earth.
i agree we can't infer the shape of the earth from the stars. however, the mirror explanation doesn't sit well with me. look up the astrolabe. it shows the main constellations on a flat rotating disc. It was used for at least 1500 years for navigation and science. Meaning, the stars above us, regardless of their APPARENT motions, could very well be flat and circular, rotating around a single point. Another excellent point I've heard very few people point out, is the video from Australia you're using shows several rotations in their timelapse, but in their picture, they only show a very short star trail. If you study closely, you can see the point of rotation is actually moving across the sky as well. This fits in with claims the southern pole stars can't be seen from all meridian lines at once.
Another point i forgot, the southern "hemisphere" has roughly 50% more constellations than the northern. This also fits a flat plane belief, since the inner circle has less area than the outer ring.
Actually there's another point as well. The book of Enoch, while i haven't read the whole thing myself, beautifully explains star motions. (see flat water's channels, he reads a lot of texts out loud) Enoch saw some stars going in and out of portals, and other stars which never set. That also could help explain. Southern stars may have portals, explaining how they appear only for a portion of the night for each meridian, while the northern stars, remaining above the horizon all night for every meridian, never set.
Actually, the vertical angles from any location of Earth to any star plotted on a sphere makes sense, it doesn't on a flat surface. For example, the angle to either celestial pole is equal to the observers latitude. Each degree of latitude represents 69 miles along the surface of the Earth as measured. This is a constant distance anywhere on Earth. Impossible on a flat plane.
the images are presented in a misleading way. What matters is that: *when you look North in the north, trail rotates counter clockwise.* *When you look to the south in the south, trail rotates clockwise.* That's why star trails prove the globe. Not to mention that you are seeing totally different stars in both places, which couldn't happen on a plain surface.
