Scotty was a true Hero. He covers one hand from frame shots because he lost fingers while landing in Normandy on D-Day. He was a pilot for the Canadians, and then an Artillery officer.
Scotty literally doesn't bat an eye, "Could takes weeks, Sir." Such a fun crew to watch in this movie. Definitely my favorite ST movie, can watch it over and over.
I'm just sorry that James Doohan never really got involved in reunions etc and refused to lend his name to various projects. Must say I liked Doohan in the role but Simon Pegg is just magic as the "new" Scotty...
It wouldnt be close to my favorite, but its clearly a cast that despite whatever personal differences they had (and there where many, it was a rowdy family at times, Takai and Shatner still loathe each other) had a lifetime of experience in their roles, and it really does show. If feels like watching a family.
@@logotrikes Magic? No, sir. Doohan WAS Scotty. The JJ Trek cast are good actors but don't hold a candle to what these legends did. At the end of the day Doohan inspired millions of future Engineers as much as DeForest Kelley inspired millions of future doctors, Uhura inspired millions of young black women including Mae Jamison etc. the new cast won't ever have that.
@@kendallrivers1119 Well, I agree with all of that Kendall. The only Star Trek movies we watch repeatedly are the first six with all the original actors, especially Numbers 1 and 4 which I can watch over and again. But, times do move on, and the ones with Simon Pegg and Chris Pine are certainly watchable.... I did read somewhere that when they were casting for an engineer, it was decided that the Scots had a long history of engineering and innovation at the start of the Industrial Revolution. So a Scottish engineer was the logical choice. The choice of James Doohan was probably less logical since he was a Canadian, but his Scots accent was excellent to my English ears, having been born less than 100 miles from the border with Scotland. I must ask some Scottish friends of ours how close Montgomery Scott came, but the Scottish accent varies every bit as much as the English accent and can change within 20 miles, as can the accent from whence I came. There's the posh accent of good breeding, and there's mine, the accent of the working class poor. Scotland same... His later performances in the movie franchise were better I felt. He had matured in years and was as ever, perfectly cast. I've read elsewhere of his inspiration to future engineers...
This is a very cleverly written scene when you think about it: the use of the phaser demonstration not only explains why the boots weren't vaporized to the audience, but also works as a humorous way to get other characters into the room for dialog involving them, rather than the lazier way of having them on the intercom which cuts down on their screen time.
Except that the ship is massive and it took both of them about ten seconds to walk there? It would have been better to have them speak via radio or screen and just cut back and forth between them in their locations and the kitchen
@@imcallingjapan2178 turns out that the Officers' Kitchen is right under the Bridge, 2 decks down. Assuming the other characters were on the Bridge (or in the Officer's Lounge or the Ready Room), the quick transit time is reasonable.
The only thing that seems unreal for me is Chekov not being aware of the alarm in case of use the phasers He is a very experienced officer from the starfleet, pretty sure he knows those regulations
Well if you think about it, the crew are Always eating; crew waking up, coming off-shift, meal break, etc. so the galley, and engineering, would have the most wear-and-tear for a given length on time.
@@jaredpelletier3157 IIRC, the Enterprise-A was a refit and rename of a previous Constitution class ship, already years if not decades in service like the “original” Enterprise. Some say it was the old USS Yorktown saved from decommissioning, Mr. Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise says it was the USS Ti-Ho, converted to a trans warp test ship.
@@VTX00128 and not nearly as upgraded right down to still having galleys it was good story telling making the ships different yet carrying the audience emotional attachment over
This movie is among my top favorites of Star Trek movies because it is a legitimately good murder mystery. Intrigue, betrayal, logical reasoning, plus the look on Ms. Backstabber Vulcan’s face when the boots were found with the ONE SINGLE GUY ON BOARD WHO COULDNT WEAR THEM.
In the TOS ''THE CORBOMITE MANUVER'' power was out in the galley and the coffee was cold so YEOMAN RAND took a phaser and zapped the coffee and coffee became hot as seen in later episode to heat rocks to keep warm as well in later episodes of TOS that was first seen in the ''THE ENEMY WITHIN''.
I know I'm late on this one, but....cut to a random ship's announcement: "The previously planned pancakes for tomorrow's breakfast will not be served due to vaporization of the cookpot."
Well, the dude’s gotta be overtired from being awake and investigating for so long. Never mind that his nerves are probably fried from all the tension in the air. You mean to tell me you’ve never said something dumb and uncharacteristic when exhausted?
@@TheDancingRomeo It does have a couple of glitches in the story. Sulu's Excelsior was added late in the script development. The Enterprise was the Federation ship that was suppose to detect the destruction of Praxis. When the Excelsior took the Enterprise's place, the plot point about the equipment used for detecting and cataloguing gaseous anomalies got confusing. if the Excelsior was on the mission to study gaseous anomalies, why did the Enterprise have the same equipment when they weren't on any such mission? The second glitch was how a multilingual communications officer with as many decades of experience as Uhura wouldn't know how to speak Klingon. I believe it was a very sore point with Nichelle Nichols. It would have been easy to make the scene work with a Klingon speaking Uhura and still include some decent humour in it.
@@Milnoc the second issue returns to the terrible joke telling that started with the voyage home. But the first issue had a scene cut where it was explained why Enterprise was doing that work. I wish the script as envisaged would have been kept but I'm glad the movie even got made.
@@MilnocI thought the same thing, but you have to keep in mind that they had been at war for a long time. It is a resource to explain that they were enemies and really knew little about each other. But above all it was a comic resource that worked quite well. As for the "Enterprise" mission, as already mentioned, there was a scene where they explained it. Anyway, there is no such thing as perfection in art and that includes cinema. Even great works of art have mistakes. Still the movie is very good.
On the other hand, the technology to detect unauthorized phaser fire must have been relatively new on this Enterprise. I don't remember anything like it on any of the episodes of the original series.
Chekov could have probably done it without setting the alarms off. Most of the senior crew probably knew a work around in fact. Valeris thought she was teaching him something new and demonstrating her ability when in actual fact it helped show her in a poor light.
+John Randall Banks mine too. Doohan's inflection was golden. Scotty had some of the best lines of the entire crew, and the movies really let him shine.
Me too. It’s amazing how well Nicholas Meyer wrote for this character, considering he was never a Star Trek fan, didn’t really watch many TOS episodes to catch up and yet every single line is so true to who Spock is. Same for Kirk and McCoy. This is why this one and Wrath of Khan were the best two movies with the original cast. Save the Whales is also pretty good, but it lacks that real space opera feel.
Always loved the look on Spocks face as Valeris is putting the phaser away after vaporizing the pot 😄 Kinda like "Damn, Lt.....not ENTIRELY necessary "
Yeah, and you can tell Spock's already begun to twig to it, that the show she's putting on is more than just ego. Valeris needs everyone to _see_ (including the audience) that _"No one can fire an unauthorized phaser aboard a starship,"_ because in service to the conspiracy, she has to do exactly that.
I've heard the original plan here was to use Saavik, but I feel Cattrall as Valeris sells better than Alley or Curtis did for Saavik the most important part of this role: the number-one student at all costs, the brittle ego of a young prodigy who's mistaken her talents for the maturity needed to make decisions of life and death.
@@mariajohnson-tanner2720 Seconded; what happened at the end of movie 3 and the beginning of movie 4 was enough for a complete spin-off story. I'm a bit surprised that no screenwriter has added THAT CHARACTER in any canonical storyline yet.
@@MegaZeta The reason they created Valeris is that the director didn't like Custis' stiff acting, Alley was unavailable, and he didn't want to recast the character a 3rd time.
I can hear the gravel in Spock's voice, and it's half an octave lower than it used to be. Nimoy's COPD was already making itself felt. R.I.P., Mr. Nimoy, you gave us all so much.
Agreed, still outstanding. I know im reading way too much in from the series thru the movies but, i love how he has made his Vulcan/Human half work in perfect harmony now. He would never had said in TOS that Logic isnt the end, only the beginning
Not terribly keen on Shatner as a person but he made a great Kirk. There is one person you hear about on StarTrek but never see. Captain Slog. Never saw the dude, not once...
William and Leonard, they were both very good, as were Kirk and Spock. The chemistry between the two was also good. They just complemented each other. Dr. McCoy also had great chemistry with the other two. Much of the success of Star Trek is thanks to its endearing characters and the great performances of the actors.
One point of the scene is that Chekov really _has_ aged out of his office. He has it by pure seniority and doesn't know what he should. Valeris has taken Chekov's old role as the brash young go-getter. She's rubbing his nose in it. But a big part of the plot is that the original crew's retirement is overdue. It's one last adventure.
I like all the classics, because they all have something special and different, but my two favorites were always "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" and this one. I never tire of seeing them.
Yes, the first responder to any unauthorized phaser firing *from the kitchen's armory* should always be the Communications Officer and Chief Engineer. Not to mention the highly experienced Security Chief needing to be explained how you can't just go around blasting phasers on a starship by a fresh face young officer.
RedFenril i Think that in TOS they based the colourful cubes on standard practice in many scifi novels that in the future we will eat proteincubes and various pills instead of real food, imagine how boring that would be.
@@KristerAndersson-nc8zo Ironically the plot of the first Dan Dare story (from 1950, no less) revolved around people rioting because they wanted real food and not vitamin blocks.
Interesting how the Phaser vaporized the pot but NOT the mashed potatoes inside. I wonder if it was because the mash probably had a very high amount of water and thus acted as an ablative layer that boiled off thus protecting the potatoes and whisk. Also, why the hell is there a phaser locker in the Galley? I mean I know this is from the war era of the federation, but can someone who is in the navy tell me, are there weapons lockers in or near galley's aboard ships?
No, weapons are stored in the armory and only specified members are allowed to have them. This of course is a fictional show and they wanted dramatic effect.
typically in a real navy ship the weapons are stored in an armory, but in Trek weapons lockers are found in most major compartments in case of boarding. In the Enterprise D and Voyager phaser rifles seem to be accessible with a code from many places- though the latter ship seems to be meant to be this way
Of course, he should have known. What this is, is an example of how writers like to SHOW their audience things, not just explain it in exposition. It's not that Chekov didn't know. The writers just had him ask a question that the movie audience might be asking themselves. Of course, the writers could have reversed the roles and had Valeris ask the question and have Chekov answer it. But then that might have brought up the question of why would a Vulcan not known the answer already.
The implication is that it's not a widely known fact. McCoy doesn't know either later in the film when he asks why the dead assassins weren't vaporized. The idea is supposed to be only someone who has done a lot of research on how to get away with something like this would know about it. This scenes payoff is when McCoy asks why the assassins weren't vaporized and Chekov responds that it would set off the alarm--implying whomever did this was knowledgeable about this obscure fact that thus far only Velaras seemed to know about.
All the Enterprise-A sets were deliberately modified to show the aging of the ship, it went through a lot between the end of 4 and 6, just as the characters grew a lot.
I think that was a choice by Nicholas Meyer. He wanted little things like that for the ship. Like he wanted tactile controls, like physical buttons and sliders, on the bridge, replacing the touch-panels from the last two movies.
I love the attention to detail here, the scuffs on the cabinets and the various pots and pans. Chekov's starting to look a bit tired now. he was walking a bit slowly and he looked at the apples, but didn't take one. It didn't take Uhurah and Scotty long to get to the galley. Scotty's not even out of breath. I wonder where they both were?
Enterprise protocol 101: if someone fires a phaser at high settings Uhura should first show up looking confused, then the Chief engineer follows shortly after with a question.
Love how RU-vid's auto generated subtitles claim Spock said without the boots they'd have floated off the Klingon transporter pants. That seems like a one way ticket to a disastrous accident. One brief moment of signal loss and you've transported your own bollocks off. Talk about a wardrobe malfunction.
I never realzised until now the goof they made when Spock tells Valeris to contact Starfleet he is looking at Uhura. But if look closely, I think he is saying Uhura but may have been dubbed over.
Always loved the detail of the wear and tear on the ship in this scene. Perhaps elluding to the fact that basic maintenance even on the Federation flagship was becoming lax on a ship soon to be mothballed.
Funny, since in just the prior movie it was a new ship that they were working the kinks out of. It was as if they were still using the ship that blew up at Alpha Ceti V.
@@kmarasin now friend you do have to realize that the Enterprise A probably did have her own five year mission so yeah she would of course have a little wear and tear here and there! 😊
@@mikegallant811Yes, there was at least three years between V and VI, as Sulu says at the start of the film that he's been Captain of Excelsior for three years.
I just thought.....they have had unsecured phaser locker......in the kitchen. Normally we see that the armory of weapons lockers are very much secured....and very much in their own sections.....
Hey I checked the Star Trek wiki after I posted that reply. They did have food synthesizers on starships in this era of Star Trek. I had forgotten about them. I guess the answer is they used both synthesized and non-synthesized food.
1:42 Spock's mouth says Commander Uhura, but apparently they changed it in ADR to Valeris. That's interesting and makes sense since Spock is looking at Uhura while giving the order. I guess they thought the exchange flowed better if he addressed Valeris.
yea, you never know when you might need a phaser in the kitchen. (no replicators yet?) and a senior officer not knowing that firing a phaser would cause an alarm? as too often, science fiction is only fun when you don't think too much about it.
In the entire movie Uhura is more or less ignored. Here, Spock does not respond to her question and he asks Valeris to inform Starfleet Command although Uhura is the communications officer
Uhura is the comms officer and Valeris the helmsman, but she is also being mentored by Spock, hence his order to her. The Enterprise is a bit strange in terms of rank and command structure as they have two Captains (Kirk and Spock), A Captain of Engineering (Scotty), one Lieutenant Commander, Uhura ) and McCoy holding a Commander rank alongside Chekov. It's a similar case on the Enterprise D, where Worf is usually the comms officer but Data or Wesley are often asked to contact other ships. In this case it's easier for Spock to order Valeris to contact Starfleet Command-and also gets her out of the room so he can talk to the more trusted officers.
Initially I wondered if it was really necessary to fire the phaser when she could have just explained it...but then really the next logical step would be testing if the phaser-alarm had been sabotaged, so...two birds, one stone!
I'm sure the kitchen staff loved her after that little stunt. It would be nice if Star Trek didn't treat enlisted personnel like scenery. But at least they're shown in the TOS films, unlike on television where they seem to not exist except for Miles O'Brien (who is inexplicably shown being referred to as 'Sir' by ensigns and lieutenants JG; no Chief in real life would ever tolerate such an insult).
***** Sorry but he's a Senior Chief Petty Officer as he mentions several times that he never went the typical Starfleet officer route and identifies with the enlisted under him. It's also why Dr. Bashir and Lt. Ezri both outrank him during some offworld episodes, but he is still a department head and hugely respected by the command staff.
***** He's explicitly stated to be a chief petty officer (E-7) or senior chief petty officer (E-8) on DS9, and in the later episode of TNG where he meets Worf's parents. But he wore the pips of a lieutenant in earlier seasons of TNG, and is called "sir" by ensigns and lieutenants JG even on DS9 (including Ensign Nog, despite previously chuckling that when Nog graduated from the Academy, O'Brien would have to call him sir). He also clearly has positions that one would expect to be filled by at least a lieutenant commander.
While this is likely a production error it can be explained by Miles being appointed Chief of Operations of DS9 as well as having new junior officers under him
@@SantomPh definitely not a production error, but I'd agree with the posting explanation, just like the commander of a ship is called Captain regardless of their actual rank.
best part of the fight is the aftermath when kirk beats him kirk: i was lucky that thing had knees Martia: that was not his *knee* . not everyone keeps their genitals in the same place, Captain.
Y'know it's a great joke where Uhura and Scotty both come running into the galley like they do, but from a military standpoint it kinda makes sense. The captain is not onboard, and thus Mr. Spock is in charge. Lt. Valeris sudden fires off an unauthorized phaser, causing an alarm to sound, and upon hearing that, the other ranking officers that are not in the galley, are the first to respond, as there's a very real chance that the highest ranking officer (Spock) could be hurt or even dead at that moment. Ergo as far as they know, they could be the acting captain. Plus like...everyone's on high alert due to the assassin's being (most likely) on board the ship, or so the characters would think at the time.
Love the easy and immediate access the kitchen staff has to a full complement of phasers. Just in case the Klingons try to steal the Enterprise's biscuits.
This scene always bugged me. Even when I saw it in the theater when I was 12. "No one can fire an unauthorized phaser aboard a Starship." What does that mean? Why would there be 'unauthorized' phasers lying around? Does it mean you have to get permission before firing a phaser? That seems extremely inefficient. Perhaps it's on the security personnel who are authorized to fire phasers but in that case, how does the security/alarm system know it's a security personnel firing the phaser and not a regular person? What happens if the ship is boarded and the crew has to take up arms? Is the alarm constantly going off? These are all thoughts I had while watching this scene unfold live as a 12-year old in the theater. This is why I can't watch movies.
Each phaser can have a unique ID transmitting wireless-ly. Unauthorized phasers are ones where they are flagged to set off the alarms if they are fired. Even by today's technology this is easily done. However, it's probably better to use the same tech to simply disable phasers, like a weapon safety. Security could be exempt from this, or may be able to arm phasers on the fly. On a red or yellow alert, all (or maybe some) safeties can be disengaged, and the weapons can be readily available. One step further, the crew can possibly wear a short range dongle or bracelet to help prevent enemy use. Of course, back when this movie was made, they did not really think about it. Cell phones, the internet and most wireless tech was in its infancy.
Nothing wrong with firing a phaser and setting off an alarm if you can prove a justified reason for doing so. The alarm merely alerts command that a phaser has been fired. The alarm, by itself, does not prohibit the use of a phaser. It just means you better be prepared to answer some questions when you do it.
0:26 Valeris took barely a second... 0:30 Granted it was dangerous, but the panic she caused. 0:32 ONLY the pot?! 1:07 A _specific_ alarm for phaser fire... 1:17 _"There's nothing wrong with the bloody thing!"_ >> _"Could take weeks, sir."_ (1:39)
Spock: If I know the captain, he is deep into planning his escape. Scene cuts to Kirk getting the ever living snot beat outta him. Yea, he's deep into planning how many pain killers to take later.
Chekov, in his role as both the Weapons Officer and Security Chief of the Enterprise-A, doesn't know that a phaser fired on a starship sounds an alarm. Likewise the alarm goes off and Uhura of all people shows up *before* security does with Scotty right behind, because the ship's communications officer and Chief Engineer are the ones who should be responding to a potential firefight on a ship.
Scotty missed the entire conversation about the assassins' boots, yet when he wandered into the room, he acted as if he'd been fully briefed. Continuity, folks!
If shields are down/inoperative, a hostile boarding party can beam anywhere on the ship. So there need to be weapons located throughout the ship to enable the crew to fight back.
I love the subtle eyebrow raise from Spock to see Valeris openly use a phaser to prove her point instead of simply stating Federation protocol. Means she might have violent tendencies so it was the first warning he had to suspect her, later on he wasn't just angry, he was disappointed.
This scene always bugged me for its gratuitous use of a firearm in close quarters just to prove a point that could easily be answered with a sentence. She should be court martialed for that stupidly dangerous stunt.
