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Star Trek TV Shows Ranked Worst to Best 

Rowan J Coleman
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Once again arbitrarily ranking something from Star Trek. Previously I gave my personal rankings for the Star Trek movies, now here are my rankings for the Star Trek TV shows.
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@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 3 года назад
Agree. “In the pale moonlight”, “yeah Demar what kind of people would do that”, Odo/Quark, Garak. A perfect blend of humor and darkness-a formula modern writers need to learn.
@jiveturkeylee
@jiveturkeylee 2 года назад
I absolutely love that episode...cheers my friend
@popculture70
@popculture70 3 года назад
TOS is such an important part of popular culture. Kirk and Spock are iconic genre-transcending characters. I keep going back to it to enjoy the uncynical freshness and goodness of it. It'll always be my number one sci fi show.
@strawberryrhubarbs
@strawberryrhubarbs 3 года назад
its just like saying which diamond shines brighter. They're all great shows!
@marcychan168
@marcychan168 3 года назад
I hear that!! 👍♥️🙏🕊
@nikolausmoll9201
@nikolausmoll9201 3 года назад
Sure, and the Ranking does not disrespect the achievements of TOS. The problem about comparisons and rankins is always, that only a few ranks seem to be "good". But actually, if I tell you which Twilight move I like most, it does not say anything about my opinion about these movies :P When we are talking about the series ranked here, we are talking about great shows. If we would talk about the cultural impact of the shows, the ranking would be different, sure.
@sharpaycutie2
@sharpaycutie2 2 года назад
Too many shows bank on vynism to add "interesting stories". Funny how evey murder killer and Terrorist is somehow sympathetic now...🤔
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 2 года назад
Plus, real science fiction authors wrote many of the episodes.
@purplepothos5794
@purplepothos5794 3 года назад
I can't believe you highlighted the exceptional supporting characters of DS9 and didn't even mention Morn.
@RowanJColeman
@RowanJColeman 3 года назад
Hasn't Morn already talked about himself enough though? You know how he is, total chatterbox.
@stephenhall2980
@stephenhall2980 3 года назад
Despite being a big fan of both shows,I only realised recently that morn is a tribute to norm from cheers.what a dumbass I am. Facepalm!
@Ma55ey
@Ma55ey 3 года назад
@@stephenhall2980 well I feel educated today :) now all I hear when I see him is going to be "MORN!!"
@Maplelust
@Maplelust 2 года назад
I know. what a crime.
@Copeharder00
@Copeharder00 2 года назад
Rules of Acquisition 286: When Morn leaves, it's all over.
@detectivesquirrel2621
@detectivesquirrel2621 3 года назад
The character arc of Nog is the example of great writing, the kind of writing that Harry Kim in Voyager never got.
@EpicConspiracy
@EpicConspiracy 3 года назад
To be fair. Harry has the greatest running joke in Star Trek history
@GeeVanderplas
@GeeVanderplas 3 года назад
It's amazing to think there's an episode like Paper Moon that only focuses on two recurring characters and hardly features the main cast. That would never happen in Voyager.
@EpicConspiracy
@EpicConspiracy 3 года назад
@@GeeVanderplas you must’ve not watched Pathfinder
@GeeVanderplas
@GeeVanderplas 3 года назад
@@EpicConspiracy which one was that again?
@EpicConspiracy
@EpicConspiracy 3 года назад
@@GeeVanderplas the episode focused on barclay and Troi when they first made contact with voyager. 90% of the episode was from characters barely shown on the series.
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 3 года назад
Deep Space Nine will always be my favourite for a Plain, Simple Reason..... Garak....
@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 3 года назад
And “in the pale moonlight”, and Quark/Odo...
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 3 года назад
@@Scottlp2 RIP Rene Auberjonois
@Browncoat66
@Browncoat66 3 года назад
Was any of it true, or was it all lies. Oh Doctor its all true. Even the lies? ESPECIALLY the lies! 🤣
@11viewer77
@11viewer77 3 года назад
DS9 is my favourite Star Trek show too 🙂👍
@Ma55ey
@Ma55ey 3 года назад
I still think he should have seduced Bashir..... you could see he wanted to...
@CoinOpTV
@CoinOpTV 3 года назад
been rewatching DS9 over the pandemic -- some pretty epic writing and acting almost finished with S6 - bring on Ezri!
@lordomacron3719
@lordomacron3719 3 года назад
watched ALL of Star Trek that Netflix has. aye Ezri was my fav Dax Jadzia was great but Ezri better suits my tastes
@lumensimus
@lumensimus 3 года назад
There's a lot of great Ezri content in the novels - _The Lives of Dax_ is a lot of fun, with a cool frame story surrounding episodes from each host, and her post-DS9 assignments are pretty exciting.
@Ma55ey
@Ma55ey 3 года назад
@@lordomacron3719 it's a shame to have lost Jadzia in the last season but I think Ezri picked up the mantle really well... she settled into her character instantly.. I guess that's because the writers took 2-3 seasons to really hone who Dax was.. so for a while terry really didn't know how to play her.. I love that Ezri wasn't an initiate, and didn't have the training to be joined.. and I'm glad that they played on that as much as they did and she didn't just automatically slot into jadzia's place in the show.. I found myself wondering if they had thought about making her a male character at some point.. I think that would have made the relationships with Worf Quark and Bashir more interesting lol...
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 года назад
@@Ma55ey It's also believable that she'd one day become a starship captain in the books since she's still a joined Trill and still a Dax, with all the experiences that come with it.
@Ma55ey
@Ma55ey 3 года назад
@@Xondar11223344 oh yea totally... it would have been good to watch her character develop more..
@Educatingben
@Educatingben 3 года назад
Of all the Star Trek series, Deep Space 9 was the one that I never watched. Because of your rankings and recommendation, I've just watch the pilot of DS9. I'll be watching all of the series and it's entirety. Thanks for what you do.
@kattcity
@kattcity 2 года назад
You will be glad you did ....When i 1st watched it I struggled a little to get through the 1st 2 years but by the end of 3rd year I was hooked and season 4 through 7 was the best I had ever seen. I freely admit that I teared up when i got to the end and felt like I was losing good friends.
@andrewverburg1805
@andrewverburg1805 2 года назад
Curious to know your thoughts now
@amberhon
@amberhon 3 года назад
Deep Space Nine ended up being the best written. I admit that I called it a Soap Opera in Space when it first came out! I wish I gave it a chance back then. TNG is the one I rewatch the most though.
@craigcutler6919
@craigcutler6919 3 года назад
It is a soap opera in space, it uses the same tropes. You like it because your biological reactions primes you to like those tropes.
@SunnyStarStuff
@SunnyStarStuff 2 года назад
I love that DS9 finally gets the appreciation & love, that I thought it deserved since it was broadcasted. I watched it when it originally aired & loved it since then 🖖
@lordomacron3719
@lordomacron3719 3 года назад
I think of Quark and Odo is the one if not the best(for me) example of the 'Best of Enemies' Relationship they are on opposite sides (most of the time) but each respects the other greatly(not that they would ever be caught saying that of course) and Garak stole every damn scene he was in and it was sublime
@realGBx64
@realGBx64 3 года назад
Deep space nine is pure Ron D Moore character writing magic. I’m happy Voyager took a different direction and Moore had to part ways with trek, so he could do BSG.
@AshPrimeDCFC
@AshPrimeDCFC 3 года назад
Dukat is the greatest villain in entertainment, not just Star Trek.
@sernoddicusthegallant6986
@sernoddicusthegallant6986 6 месяцев назад
Dukat isnt even the greatest villain in his own show. This comment was brought to you by the Wayoun Squad.
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 3 года назад
Hot Take: DS9 and B5's rivalry made both shows better. Hence Competition is good
@broganfreeman8958
@broganfreeman8958 3 года назад
So say the Shadows!
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 3 года назад
@@broganfreeman8958 I have seen through the lies of the Vorlons, I don’t fear the dark side as you do.
@broganfreeman8958
@broganfreeman8958 3 года назад
@Ancestor Empire - In Umbris Potestas Est!!! (Duh Duhhh... shady music!!!)
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 3 года назад
@@broganfreeman8958 *Stares in Phillip J Fry*
@broganfreeman8958
@broganfreeman8958 3 года назад
@Ancestor Empire - Yeah mate, I can go for the ol "Darth Jaa Jaa" take!
@crosseightyeight
@crosseightyeight 3 года назад
I definitely think DS9 had the best first episode. It wasn't nearly as cringey as TNG or VOY. TOS had a pretty good first episode, counting both pilots.
@bonghunezhou5051
@bonghunezhou5051 3 года назад
TOS's first episode is The Man Trap - if defined by airdate.
@FixtaFernback
@FixtaFernback 3 года назад
I thought Caretaker was an alright pilot. Better than Encounter at Farpoint.
@monkeymox2544
@monkeymox2544 3 года назад
I think ENT has the best first episode - TOS, TNG and VOY's first episodes were all as cringey as hell, DS9s was good but had some pretty bad acting in my opinion. ENT's was compelling, well produced, well written and well acted. Its just a shame they weren't able to carry that inertia into the rest of the first series.
@EricLinHsu
@EricLinHsu 3 года назад
Kira's shoulder pads are cringe
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 2 года назад
Voyager had a great pilot. Completely orignal Star Trek plot that set the series with so much new potential. Maquis combined with Starfleet in deep space far away from any of the familiar enemies like the klingons, cardassians, romulans, etc.
@sarahscott5305
@sarahscott5305 3 года назад
I really enjoyed this video! Completely disagreed with most of it, but hey, how boring would the world be if we all agreed?
@BeardFaceSuper
@BeardFaceSuper 3 года назад
It would probably be better though
@TheDrewThornton
@TheDrewThornton 3 года назад
I turned the video off and gave it a thumbs down the minute he said he wasnt going to rank any of the Kurtzman crap.
@BeardFaceSuper
@BeardFaceSuper 3 года назад
@@TheDrewThornton why?
@LasherTimora
@LasherTimora 3 года назад
@@BeardFaceSuper Because now he doesn't have an excuse to go on the usual "new trek bad" circle jirk.
@BeardFaceSuper
@BeardFaceSuper 3 года назад
@@LasherTimora Speaking the truth is a circle jerk?
@MercuryKnight5
@MercuryKnight5 3 года назад
TAS was the first Star Trek I ever saw, when I was eight. It wasn't until years later that I saw my first live action Trek, and even later when I actually got to watch TOS in it's entirety. TAS, for all it's flaws, fired my imagination and stoked my affection for the franchise.
@adamcraig9059
@adamcraig9059 3 года назад
As a big sci fi fan but quite a casual star trek dude I've really enjoyed these retrospective videos. Although I've seen most of what trek has to offer a lot of it has been out of sequence and disjointed. This whole series has made me want to go back and watch everything in order properly so thank you ❤
@michaellewis1545
@michaellewis1545 3 года назад
This tangentially related to the video. Out Discovery, Picard, and Lower Decks. I think Lower Decks has the most potential. I say this because with animation Lower Decks is only limited by the imagination of the design team. Also Lower Decks is much more of ensemble show so the show runners have more to work with. While Picard or Discovery live or die with their main characters.
@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 3 года назад
Out of curiosity are you under 30? 40? (I’m old). I tried watching lower decks and couldn’t get past the first literally 2 minutes. Does it get less grating?
@michaellewis1545
@michaellewis1545 3 года назад
@@Scottlp2 I am 33. Lower Deck is one of those shows that takes a couple of esposide to get going. I think episode three is when it starts to get good.
@ro_sado
@ro_sado 3 года назад
​@@Scottlp2 I hate watched the few first episodes (most jokes didn't land, annoying characters). But the last ~4 episodes felt like Trek for some reason - can't put my finger on it. I'm looking forward to S2 of Lower Decks, but don't care about the next season of Picard or Discovery. So that's my "recommendation."
@richardburke8566
@richardburke8566 3 года назад
Well I'm 60 and I thought lower decks was very good.
@Icybubba
@Icybubba 3 года назад
Of the new shows Strange New Worlds is the one Im most optimistic for, it seems like an actual Trek show
@gsr4535
@gsr4535 3 года назад
I liked Enterprise. Still do. I like the slightly lower tech, more character development approach.
@YogGroove
@YogGroove 3 года назад
It's good. Better than Voyager easily. And one could argue, better than TOS.
@AndrewD8Red
@AndrewD8Red 3 года назад
I remember back in 'aught-one when fans were complaining that it looked "too advanced" to be set before TOS. They probably complained that the Klingons didn't look like they did on TOS, too.
@jasonutty52
@jasonutty52 3 года назад
I really like that there are like a million scenes of the actors eating. Really screams realistic.
@solomongibsoniii4865
@solomongibsoniii4865 3 года назад
In my opinion, your ranking is spot on. I've been around to see the premier of every Star Trek series and have always, always considered DS9 to be the best of the sequels. Indeed one of the best two scifi shows produced in America (B5 being the other). Have been dismayed it hasn't received the amount of love and attention as TNG. Also interesting is VOY; it's true, the show goes down easy. While I've never considered it bold or challenging, with some of the blandest characters in ST history (Kim, Chakotay, Paris, Kes) I've found it easier to watch repeatedly than the much better TNG (which is a little too utopian and neatly wrapped). VOY seems, in structure and feel, to be a contemporization of 60s or 70s television; like watching old episodes of Bonanza, Twilight Zone, and the like.
@fstfrdy
@fstfrdy 2 года назад
Absolutely agree
@TheAdorkableRJ
@TheAdorkableRJ 3 года назад
Wow, this is EXACTLY the way I'd rank them all.
@BL-mf3jp
@BL-mf3jp 2 года назад
TOS is my favorite by far. It has the best premise, solid costumes, great matte painting backgrounds, fun plots, and that classic 60s feel.
@martinshelton9533
@martinshelton9533 3 года назад
DS9 and some of the best character development arcs in all the Star Trek Universe!
@thebricknerd8599
@thebricknerd8599 2 года назад
I find it really funny how they move in the animated series. They don't walk, they don't run, they do a wired middle thing. They even do it on the cover 😂
@regsays
@regsays 3 года назад
I wholeheartedly agree DS9 was always my favorite I love that it was dark I love that it took chances it seemed more real than the prime directive addled other shows. The relationship of Worf and Dax was amazing the bromance with Chief O'Brien and the doctor amazing. The introduction of section 31. I could go on and on and on for paragraphs of how special this show is
@TrekkieBrie
@TrekkieBrie 3 года назад
Oh man I love enterprise lol. That placement hurts just a little, but DS9 is by and far the best trek for me too.
@jiaconis
@jiaconis 2 года назад
I totally agree with you Brie!!
@coralinealgae
@coralinealgae 2 года назад
Agreed. Enterprise was on track to becoming the best Trek series. If it had gotten 7 seasons it could've run away with the top spot.
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 2 года назад
DS9 is boring
@TrekkieBrie
@TrekkieBrie 2 года назад
@@scottslotterbeck3796 that's nice
@jaypee9575
@jaypee9575 Год назад
Enterprise was great because of Trip and to a lesser extent T'Pol. The real problem was Archer. He was such a poorly written character, he single handedly ruined the experience for me.
@robkemp598
@robkemp598 3 года назад
Your family sounds awesome, my entire childhood was never getting to watch my geeky shows because I was outvoted by my younger 3 sisters
@ThePrincessrael
@ThePrincessrael 2 года назад
DS9 has been my favourite star trek ever since I first watched it and I'm super glad it's getting more recognition now than it did back then. I'm a sucker for well written characters and long running storylines and DS9 did it better than any of the others.
@detectivesquirrel2621
@detectivesquirrel2621 3 года назад
The only real problem with Next Gen was too many stories of the 1st season were just rehashed stories from the original series. Then some of the episodes of season 2 were reworked unused scripts for the failed Phase 2 project. But once it found its feet, found its own way it was great TV. But DS9 is in a class of its own, it is just sublime SciFi TV.
@RighteousBrother
@RighteousBrother 2 года назад
I've been bingeing your content recently, so thanks fella!
@imptv
@imptv 3 года назад
I think this is a solid ranking. For me, it's not about quantity of episodes, but overall quality, so I'd rank TOS over TNG. I've done my own rankings and I think 66% (52 of 78) of TOS episodes are must-watches vs 59% (105 of 178) of TNG. The TOS characters are iconic and the writers told groundbreaking stories that laid the roadmap for all the iterations of Trek that would follow. I think it's fair to wait on judging the newer series, but I would have been interested in knowing your current evaluation based on what we've gotten so far from Discovery, Picard, and Lower Decks. This is my current ranking. (I haven't watched The Animated Series yet.) 1. Deep Space Nine 2. The Original Series 3. The Next Generation 4. Lower Decks 5. Discovery 6. Voyager 7. Picard 8. Enterprise
@themushroom_dude
@themushroom_dude 2 года назад
TOS is just memorable, it's incredible how you can remenber what happens in the episode just by the title
@theonlymatthew.l
@theonlymatthew.l 3 года назад
I must admit, I was half looking forward to having a respectful argument with you about your rankings. Alas, my plans were foiled when I found that I agreed with your rankings 100%... 👍
@Sakrysta
@Sakrysta 3 года назад
I am completely okay with your ranking. My personal ranking would flip Voyager and TOS, but that's more to do with personal taste and familiarity than any disagreement about quality. Just discovered your channel and have been doing mini-binges. Love your content, and appreciate the work you obviously do in research and production. Well done!
@MrCarlzohn
@MrCarlzohn 3 года назад
Your ranking of DS9 warms my heart. It's still - to me - one of the best Sci-fi shows ever made. Possibly with the exception of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica or whatever the Expanse turns out to be. I would have maybe graded Enterprise a little higher, but otherwise I have no objections. Good stuff.
@Imbatmn57
@Imbatmn57 3 года назад
My favorites 1.enterprise/voyager 2.original series 3.deep space nine I liked deep space nine but i thought it needed more standalone episodes to break it up because i tend to loose interest if its a story episode one after another.
@corey2232
@corey2232 3 года назад
Before watching the video, my guesses are: 1. DS9 2. TNG 3. TOS 4. VOY 5. ENT 6. Animated Series At least that's my ranking ;) *EDIT:* WOW, I can't believe I got 100% the same as Rowan! You have great taste sir!
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 3 года назад
Voyager so often struck me as "Gilligan's Island in Space," with Harry Kim as Gilligan, Seven of Nine as Ginger, and Tuvok and the Doctor competing to be the Professor. That being said, "Blink of an Eye" is one of the best hours of television.
@aquamonkee
@aquamonkee 3 года назад
Never thought of it that way but fair enough. Would that make Chakotey the guest of the week who really didn't want to be around?
@CarvaxIV
@CarvaxIV 2 года назад
That and “The Void.” I rewatch those two constantly.
@LMoftheCoast
@LMoftheCoast 3 года назад
My own ranking: 1. DS9 2. TNG 3. TOS 4. VOY 5. ENT 6. TAS We’re I to add the new shows, it would be the same up to ENT, but after that it would be 6. DIS s2 7. TAS 8. LD 9. PIC 10. Rest of DIS
@natelay7244
@natelay7244 3 года назад
Great. Spot on. Love your insight into trek
@LrdDragnManifesto
@LrdDragnManifesto 3 года назад
I feel the exploration of the politics of the early federation members in season 4 of ENT was the best part of that show, and would of had a DS9 feel if given the chance the writers initially wanted for the series.
@coralinealgae
@coralinealgae 2 года назад
That was a fantastic part of the show. That said, the Vulcan ark that developed from the very first episode right through season 4 was the best part of the series. It started off infuriating a lot of fans with their bitter relationship, and evolved into the best Vulcan story in the entire series. Masterfully done. It encompassed a full societal development. Both human & Vulcan societies faced & overcame serious, but believable, hurdles.
@AssyTheNator
@AssyTheNator 3 года назад
Recently started watching Star Trek with TNG and I have to say I love it. After watching this I'll probably watch the original and Deep Space Nine in the future. Great content.
@hoplitethirtynine1487
@hoplitethirtynine1487 3 года назад
I feel TNG is the core of the franchise. It's the central point where everything leads to and evolves from. It represents the soul of Star Trek. And it's interesting that it usurped TOS. I do agree that DS9 is the best, although there was a lot of meh in the first two seasons. From season 3, it effectively had a 5 season story arc, which is unique in Star Trek. I feel that DS9 gives us a real feel for the size, diversity and strength of the Federation. I just finished Enterprise and I quite like it. I especially like how it gives us a glimpse into the early exploration and the formation of what would become the Federation. I'm a bit cold on Voyager because it feels detached from the other ST shows. As said, being away from Starfleet and the Federation makes it unique. But it also loses the connection with what I see most represents ST.
@killingragethrowback
@killingragethrowback 2 года назад
In VOY, we saw the a portion of the Federation when cut off from the rest of it. In TNG, we saw the Federation at it's absolute height. We witnessed the life of it's paragons. In DS9, we saw the Federation at it's lowest point. What you are in the Dark.
@RationalGamers
@RationalGamers 3 года назад
"'I'm leaving off nutrek" Everyone liked that
@MovieMagic515
@MovieMagic515 3 года назад
He left it out to ensure a fair expression of opinions. Why evaluate something still ongoing.
@Michael_ORourke
@Michael_ORourke 3 года назад
Imagine comparing only season one of TNG to all of TOS. TNG would fall short in every single way. Compare 7 seasons of TNG to TOS however, that's a different story.
@ma7mgte
@ma7mgte 3 года назад
They're all true. Especially the lies - Garak
@YadraVoat
@YadraVoat 3 года назад
I continue to find your appealing speaking style remarkable. 👍
@WhyNotAParadox
@WhyNotAParadox 3 года назад
I totally agree! I'm rewatching TNG now, and I hop back and forth from it to other shows in my streaming queue, but when I'm rewatching DS9, that is the ONLY show I'm watching. DS9's story is so rewarding to watch from start to finish! TNG (my early years) and Voyager (my teenage years) have a heavy dose of nostalgia and comfort for me.
@shawnleeguku
@shawnleeguku Год назад
Like almost everyone else I think I'd rank TAS higher, probably just under TOS, but otherwise I think my list would be identical to this one. I think every long-time fan of Star Trek who enjoys the TNG era ends up loving DS9 above all else. It's just so rich in character and lore, it gives us everything we want.
@sallgoodman2323
@sallgoodman2323 2 года назад
Cool Video. I recently rewatched TNG out of nostalgia, as it was the series my Dad and I watched every day after school and during supper. DS9 like you said was only viewed in bits and pieces at first, but I'm in a sci-fi trekkie kinda mood lately. I'm about to start season 2, thanks for sharing your list and thoughts.
@danielsimmich1858
@danielsimmich1858 3 года назад
I’m just astounded that your list is the exact same as mine. Looking forward to your characters ranked video where Luxwana is number 1 :P
@Bigdave203
@Bigdave203 2 года назад
Thanks for the ranking. I would generally agree with the list although I would swap DS9 and next Gen. I would actually agree with your analysis but the serialized nature of DS9 is a turnaround slight downer. I had the most fun watching it originally. It might be better critically but as a busy man who loves the old shows bur I may be able to watch two or three episodes a week. I don't wa nt to have to think about what happened; before. I want to go to something familiar and rewatch a show. I can do this with Next Generation Deep space 9 ended largely removed every thing. All the arcs came to a satisfactory conclusion. I respect your opinion I'm a casual viewer.. I also tend to watch sci-fi for the ideas and honestly the soap opera like elements tend at times to be slight turn off as well.
@TheJamieRamone
@TheJamieRamone 3 года назад
DS9 is the only series I've seen that ACTUALLY corresponds to the "space western" formula.
@leslauner5062
@leslauner5062 3 года назад
Try "Firefly" for another great space western.
@TheJamieRamone
@TheJamieRamone 3 года назад
@@leslauner5062 Been hearing bout that 1 quit a bit, I'll look into it.
@craigcutler6919
@craigcutler6919 3 года назад
And that is why people like it because it is basic, just like they are.
@AllenUry
@AllenUry 3 года назад
I would put TOS ahead of TNG for one simple reason: Sharper characters. Imagine a Kirk/Spock/McCoy/Scotty conversation...and remove all the character slugs. You would know by their language, attitude and cadence exactly who was saying what. Now try that same exercise with Picard/Ricker/Crusher/Data/LaForge. Much of the dialogue would be interchangeable. It's really easy for an impressionist to "do" Spock. Or McCoy. Or Scotty. And especially Kirk. (Due to Shatner's hammy performance technique.) But who can "do" Beverly Crusher? Or LaForge? Or Riker? Or even Data. Except for Patrick Stewart's "Engage," TNG offered no "catch-phrases" comparable to Spock's "Illogical" and "Fascinating," Scotty's "Aye, Capt'n" and "I'm givin' her all she's got!" or McCoy's, "Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a (fill in the blank)." That's great TV writing!
@EvilTheOne
@EvilTheOne 2 месяца назад
There are so many DS9 episodes where I cried because of how sad it was. And yet there are those where I cried because of how they depicted family, friendship and unity; 'Body Parts' is one such episode, as the crew and residents start bringing in everything he needs to continue running the bar...that's unexpectedly touching.
@ghauan
@ghauan 2 года назад
I'm always baffled that DS9 get so much praise. All though it does get better, I strugle with believing the acting from Sisko and some of the other main characters in the first couple of seasons.
@joshuakarp2586
@joshuakarp2586 Год назад
Love it! Ok, dumb question. I have the prior gen utopia with dragon cable. I’m still cool?
@LasherTimora
@LasherTimora 3 года назад
My list: 8. The Animated Series 7. Picard 6. Enterprise 5. Discovery 4. The Original Series 3. TNG 2. Voyager 1. Deep Space 9 TNG, Voyager and Deep Space 9 are very close, ask me a month from now and the order might be different. Not including Lower Decks as I have not watched and don't know enough about it. I haven't watched TAS either, but I know enough about it to rank it and to know that I don't want to watch it. Also, even though the order is like this, I like every single one of these shows, except TAS.
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth 3 года назад
I mostly agree with this list. The one exception is that I prefer Voyager over TOS. I realize it's controversial for a trekkie to say they don't like TOS, it just doesn't much appeal to me personally. The two main reasons I'd cite are that it's very much a product of the 60's and the franchise hadn't really figured itself out yet.
@CaseAgainstFaith1
@CaseAgainstFaith1 3 года назад
As far as the Animated Series, I agree that it is better than many people realize, yet, you have to put something at the bottom. So, sure, I’m basically okay with your order.
@DominatorHDX
@DominatorHDX 3 года назад
Could you also do a Star Wars movies ranking? (episodes I through IX) Or are you not into Star Wars? I like both 😉 PS: For me TNG and VOY share the number one spot!
@BeardFaceSuper
@BeardFaceSuper 3 года назад
Voyager isnt good though. I don't get the love for Voyager. There are good episodes and a few good characters, but there are far too many dull episodes and bad characters.
@LasherTimora
@LasherTimora 3 года назад
@@BeardFaceSuper I disagree. The only thing I'll agree with is that there are more bad episodes than in other series, but that's still a fairly low number overall. Also, Voyager doesn't have any episodes that I refuse to rewatch because of how bad they are, while TNG, for example, has two: Sub Rosa and Masks. The distribution of bad, meh and good characters isn't that much off compared to other shows, and I think Enterprise is the worst in that department.
@DominatorHDX
@DominatorHDX 3 года назад
@@LasherTimora Dont forget Shades of Gray. For Voyager the only episodes I don't really like are the holodeck Fair Haven ones
@LasherTimora
@LasherTimora 3 года назад
@@DominatorHDX You're right, forgot about Shades of Gray. The Fair Haven episodes are bad, but I can stomach them, I don't skip them. This did remind that there IS one episode of Voyager that I skip: 11:59. Though I didn't skip it every time, so not as bad as the mentioned TNG ones.
@DaiKaijyuu
@DaiKaijyuu Год назад
I'm not gonna lie, a part of my soul dissolved when The Animated series was ranked at the bottom. But I understand and respect why you would put it at the bottom, I just have huge nostalgia ties because I watched the fuck out of that show when I was a kid.
@DeaPeaJay
@DeaPeaJay 3 года назад
I think Enterprise’s biggest problem is that Archer was angry all the time. I never liked him as a captain.
@jaypee9575
@jaypee9575 Год назад
I definitely agree that Enterprise's biggest problem was Archer. The way they wrote his character destroyed Enterprise's potential as a series.
@GeoChild
@GeoChild 3 года назад
Great list! I challenge you to rank each Star Trek series season all together. I would rank Season 4 of Enterprise VERY high. 👍🏾
@AstroNerdBoy
@AstroNerdBoy 3 года назад
I had the same view as you about Enterprise. When I rewatched it, the series moved up to me. Voyager's problem is that they didn't have a plan to get the ship home. It would drive me nuts when Janeway would go, "Yeah, lets go explore Planet X 'cause 'reasons'." You are trying to get home. So other than those two series swapping slots, I agree with your list and such. Sisko is the best captain!
@LasherTimora
@LasherTimora 3 года назад
I never really understood this complaint. They're not trying to get home in time for dinner, so they don't have time to stop for an hour at the bar. Their voyage will take tens of years, and stopping for a few days when they find something interesting isn't that big a deal. Like she says, they are explorers after all.
@philadelphiawhovian5641
@philadelphiawhovian5641 Год назад
i have a hard time ranking Trek series, because each one has great qualities to it. like you said, i don't particularly dislike any of them, but i understand your ranking. ST Animated Series, i see why it's at the bottom of your list, but yeah, i like it a lot. it's fun and has some great stories to it. what can i say? i like the retro kid feel to it. Enterprise: like it a lot. Season one was a mixed bag, but it took me too long to get into, because i believed the negativity behind it. because it was so berated, it could never live down to the bad comments. so i was pleasantly surprised. Voyager - i've only seen the first three seasons. it had great concept and elements, and great stories. Janeway is great, and i liked Tuvok. still gotta see 7 of 9, and the Doctor is great too. but i see what you mean when it was played safe. i'm cool with it. gotta see the rest of it. TOS - Thank you for liking it! it often gets berated, because they can't get into the old style of it. but the stories and the characters are just stellar! TNG - It took me a while to get into it, because season 1 was terrible, but by the end, it lived up to the hype. the storytelling eventually went on to be great, and the characters grew on me. Gateway Trek? nice term. DS9 - Yeah it is awesome :D
@peterpayne2219
@peterpayne2219 Год назад
I am a casual fan, being a TOS lovers and dipping my tow into the other series. You give good logic for your decisions!
@SormonAusPol
@SormonAusPol 3 года назад
DS9 is arguably the most divisive of all the Treks even to this day. I unfortunately am one of the detractors. Strangely I started liking the show from the get go but over time grew to hate all the characters. The problem was they had flaws but the series didn't seem to properly address those flaws. It was the episode "For the Uniform" that really pissed me off when Sisco tried to commit genocide to capture Eddington and the episode plays it off like it was nothing. You can't get the main character to do something like that and have the audience still respect him as a hero. I couldn't bring myself to finish the series after that.
@apostolispouliakis7401
@apostolispouliakis7401 3 года назад
I'm glad to see that I am not the only one whose first proper start Trek experience from start to finish was Voyager
@stevenjlovelace
@stevenjlovelace 3 года назад
I disagreed with your movie rankings (especially Star Trek IV), but this was exactly the ranking I have of the shows, and for the same reasons.
@jaypee9575
@jaypee9575 Год назад
Pretty shocking that he put ST4 so low on his list.
@ross-carlson
@ross-carlson 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely nailed this one - DS9 is not only the best Trek but one of if not the best SciFi that's ever graced TV.
@AlmostEthical
@AlmostEthical 10 месяцев назад
I like the original series best because there's such a strong sense that Roddenberry had these ideas churning around in his head for many years. You can tell he was bursting to give them expression. For me, TOS best expresses Roddenberry's enthusiasm and the sense of wonder that so many of us feel about space.
@anthonyfrascella4598
@anthonyfrascella4598 3 года назад
No one will complain if your DS9 retrospective is 3+ hours.
@Synthacrat
@Synthacrat 11 месяцев назад
Voyager will always be my favorite. The 2 parter episodes I think made this show though.
@Danary80
@Danary80 3 года назад
Totally agree. DS9 was by far the best. And like you said, every time i re-watch it, i have to start from the beginning. It was the only Star Trek series i actually missed when it went off.
@plasticastronaut5761
@plasticastronaut5761 3 года назад
My two slips of latinum: 1. DS9 2. TNG 3. TOS 4. ENT 5. VOY 6. TAS
@sothatsdevintart2562
@sothatsdevintart2562 3 года назад
I think The Animated Series makes sense at the bottom, even though it’s pretty good, it’s severely limited by the animation of the time, it’s actually one of the few things I’d like to see get a remaster.
@scifiguy26
@scifiguy26 3 года назад
Agreed that would so cool to see the animated series remastered with new animation & CGI ship shots & somehow add Ensign Chekov 😁👍🏾
@strawberryrhubarbs
@strawberryrhubarbs 3 года назад
I'm with you on that, I think the clean simple animation styles would look awesome in HD but I've heard some of the production assets are no longer available. The master tapes for the entire musical score for example, were lost or destroyed. So it might be tough to do it.
@fabianmaryanowski2252
@fabianmaryanowski2252 3 года назад
What do you guys think about DS9? I know many (or some??) dont like the darker tone but i think its much more realistic with the best character arcs and maybe the best overall cast. I think its so great due to the darker theme. My pers. fav ST show by far(i like Babylon 5 a bit more to be honest but both are milestones in SciFi).
@MrPoster42
@MrPoster42 3 года назад
DS9 is as good as TNG. Arguably better as it's episodes are more consistently good. It's sad that it hasn't gotten the respect it deserves. Though that does seem to be changing a bit more recently.
@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 3 года назад
DS9 is the best ST: humor and darkness, “In the Pale Moonlight”, Garak, Odo/Quark..
@DaveWraptastic
@DaveWraptastic 3 года назад
I have a serious problem with how Sisko is basically a god, which is really weird and doesn't fit what I personally look for in a Star Trek show. However, there are so many great characters and episodes in it, it's probably my favorite or second favorite ST series.
@MrPoster42
@MrPoster42 3 года назад
@@DaveWraptastic The "wormhole aliens" are hardly the first godlike beings in ST. TOS, TNG, & Voyager all have them. Q is one of the most popular ST characters and he is basically a god.
@Novarcharesk
@Novarcharesk 3 года назад
@Trevor Rogert Both of what you said is just objectively false :P
@limberlad
@limberlad 3 года назад
I don't think I want to know what the device is that The Doctor is holding on the Voyager poster
@ScaryBaldMan
@ScaryBaldMan 3 года назад
For once I completely agree with your list! Good job!
@gordon1891
@gordon1891 3 года назад
I agree Voyager had so much potential to be where DS9 is in the list. There's some great episodes & some of my favourites in all Trek. It always bugged me that there was some brilliant story telling opportunities missed.
@sarahscott5305
@sarahscott5305 3 года назад
It was supposedly going to be set on a Romulan ship that ended up in Andromeda after being dragged there while pursuing a small Federation ship. I want to watch that show so bad, I just can't stand it!!!
@patstahl6849
@patstahl6849 2 года назад
Great video. I agree 100%. And thanks for leaving out New Trek. Not a fan of those myself, and I doubt they will ever come close to the 90s Trek I grew up with. But we all have to admit that even TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT all needed a couple of seasons to find their own identity.
@jameskillbot2867
@jameskillbot2867 3 года назад
As I keep rewatching through them my list has become and I’ll put the new shows in: DS9 TNG Enterprise TOS Lower Decks Discovery Voyager Picard Animated Series
@seanmcgrath3826
@seanmcgrath3826 3 года назад
I'd flip Enterprise with TNG, but otherwise I agree. Haven't seen the new shows yet though
@jameskillbot2867
@jameskillbot2867 3 года назад
Yeah at the time I didn’t like it as much, but it would be number 3 on my watch list if I was going through them all right now.
@BeardFaceSuper
@BeardFaceSuper 3 года назад
@@seanmcgrath3826 I disagree. Enterprise was getting good, but it got canceled and it fell apart at the end.
@craigcutler6919
@craigcutler6919 3 года назад
You put discovery above voyager... discovery is generic space series with star trek iconography even DS9 had more actual starfleet ideals and trek in it than discovery and DS9 had almost jumped the shark on those fronts.
@jameskillbot2867
@jameskillbot2867 3 года назад
@@craigcutler6919 I know but I honestly can’t rewatch voyager anymore despite it having better themes than discovery.
@MoonjumperReviews
@MoonjumperReviews 3 года назад
Oof - TAS at the bottom - you stabbed me in the heart with that one! I’m in a tiny category of Trekkies whose very first exposure to any Star Trek whatsoever was watching Filmation’s “Star Trek” (a.k.a. Star Trek: The Animated Series) when I was a little bouncing boy watching Saturday morning cartoons in the 1970’s - and I’ve been hooked on Star Trek ever since. I absolutely love TAS and can re-watch it countless times and never find it boring. But you put DS9 at the top, so you are “redeemed.” 😉 I’m a bit different (people tell me that quite a bit), but TNG and Voyager are actually the two series I rewatch the very least. I don’t hate them; they’re fine. To me, they were always just on my meh spectrum. Whereas if TOS, DS9, ENT, or TAS is on, I will re-watch whatever episode it is no matter how many times I’ve seen it-especially TOS. DS9 is the best, but The Original Series is my comfort food I will watch tirelessly. Nice video 👍
@spacemanspiff6332
@spacemanspiff6332 3 года назад
If they remade the original series with only the Shatner scenes there would be no noticable difference.
@WhoIsCalli
@WhoIsCalli 3 года назад
I’d definitely have to agree with your lists here. Although I have such a soft spot for Voyager - it had such great potential and I still really love watching it as I make up extra stuff ( Head canon I guess) to add to what’s on the screen 😁
@dougm2174
@dougm2174 3 года назад
Another great video. Normally I agree with you almost 100%, but this particular time I got to say I feel original the series should be in front of next generation.
@dyne313
@dyne313 3 года назад
Season's 1 and 2 of Enterprise is underrated. There aren't very many, if any, REALLY BAD episodes. And it still had some good ones.
@sarahscott5305
@sarahscott5305 3 года назад
I loved every season of Enterprise. Season one really felt like they were all out of their depth and I really liked that.
@AsianTheDomination
@AsianTheDomination 3 года назад
i think the first two seasons were the best. It captured traditional trek very well. That show had the best ethical dilemmas as well, although not as many as some of the other series.
@KayOSweaver
@KayOSweaver 3 года назад
Agreed. I didn't watch during the original run because of the bad reviews, but when I finally got around to it I really enjoyed it. Seeing the characters struggle with their place in a big galaxy that they don't know much about was really refreshing. It was kind of a bridge between a show like The Expanse and regular Star Trek. I wish Discovery had gone in a similar direction.
@Michael_ORourke
@Michael_ORourke 3 года назад
The first 2 seasons of ENT were more solid than TNG, DS9, or VOY first two imo. There were many genuinely good episodes and even the "okay" ones still had something to offer.
@AstroNerdBoy
@AstroNerdBoy 3 года назад
On second viewing, I agree that S1 and S2 of ENT weren't as bad as I remembered. I still hated the whole Temporal Cold War nonsense. However, on watching it the second time, I realized that I was frustrated that we weren't getting stories laying out the foundation of the Federation. Sure, there were the Vulcans and the Andorians, but I was kinda wanting to see Starfleet encounter more founding members of the Federation and lay that groundwork for how the Federation came to be. I had ZERO interest in some stupid, Temporal Cold War.
@mishapurser4439
@mishapurser4439 2 года назад
Yours is a really good ranking. My own would be: TNG, DS9, VOY, TOS, ENT, ANI. I don't know if TOS and ENT might switch places in the future though, and perhaps TNG and DS9.
@drwfigureadventures
@drwfigureadventures 2 года назад
What was different about season 2-3 theme on enterprise...?
@ivansnet
@ivansnet 3 года назад
Your ranking is by far the most accurate I've seen in RU-vid. 👍
@barachiel212
@barachiel212 3 года назад
Huh. Our rankings are identical. Awesome!
@stuffyouotterlistento1461
@stuffyouotterlistento1461 Год назад
TOS ≥ TNG > ENT ≥ DS9 > VOY Ranking DS9 that low is probably scandalous, but though I really like some aspects of the series, it has its issues. I'm not as enamored of most of the primary characters as in TOS or TNG (I think a lot of the characters in ENT were just plain miscast). I did enjoy the mini-arcs it had, but it never seemed to be able to fully commit to a big arc, nor properly shake the episodic roots of Star Trek. It didn't sell the politics the way Babylon 5 did, which made that show feel much more encompassing than just its primary location, and as a result, the space station setting of DS9 could seem a bit confining. And going back and rewatching DS9, I realized that I had been ranking it a bit too high on the basis of its ideas more than its actual execution. Meanwhile, I found ENT's 3rd season arc to be more compelling than any in DS9, feeling a lot more urgent and real. Maybe I'd rate DS9 more highly if Babylon 5 weren't around to show what a political space station show that really commits to its arcs looks like, but Babylon 5 does exist, and for as much as it can be cheesy and even cringy at times, overall, I think it easily bests DS9. Voyager is just a mess, and where DS9 couldn't fully commit to its arcs nor truly embrace its politics, Voyager completely botched its basic premise. There was so much it could've done with two rival factions, lost in an unfamiliar part of the galaxy, far from home, having to cooperate in order to just survive, but it almost immediately squandered all of its potential.
@3of19
@3of19 3 года назад
Who cut Linda Park’s face in half on the Enterprise poster?
@bemasaberwyn55
@bemasaberwyn55 3 года назад
I completely understand not adding current era Trek in this vid. My personal ranking is significantly different (and will piss SO many off). I'll preference it by saying I don't hate my lowest ranked(I at least watched all the series, as opposed to giving up on it like say, orrvile) the rest fall as they may 4. DS9 3. TOS/TAS 2. VGR/ENT 1. TNG
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 3 года назад
My ranking would be very similar, with two changes: 1. I regard TAS as Season 4 of TOS, so I wouldn't rank it separately. 2. I find the last two seasons of ENT strong enough to give it the edge over VOY.
@chaddelk3605
@chaddelk3605 3 года назад
I have always had a soft spot for Star Trek DS9 myself.
@paulhuhtala4541
@paulhuhtala4541 2 года назад
My list is the same. 100% agree about DS9, though I wish you'd mentioned Garak in supporting characters. He's probably the most important supporting character in all of Trek.
@kevinm1332
@kevinm1332 4 месяца назад
Nice seeing someone like DS9 as much as I do. People usually look at me crosseyed when I say how much I liked it.
@toddwalker4301
@toddwalker4301 2 года назад
Pretty safe list. I would say you ranking is the most popular.
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