While some of the information provided was interesting, most is fairly commonly known, at least amount SW fans, but the footage of the model making masters at work, building the practical models never gets old. Honestly I’d love to see a full in-depth documentary on the building of practical models, be it for Star Wars, or any other well done Sci fi shows, as while CGI can be amazing, IMO nothing beats a well done, practical model when it’s used, and filmed properly!
1:00 your first point is based on the mis belief that the term Star destroyer applies to ANY late republic or imperial era capitol ship The Venator class star destroyer is an entirely different ship from the Imperator class, later more colloquially simply called the “imperial” class The imperator class were first making appearances as the most advanced ship of the republic just a few weeks or months before order 66 There were also “miniature” versions of the class that were also used during the clone wars, and in some cases were used as heavier more powerful escorts to the venators than the smaller arquitens class seen in clone wars - that was the Victory class
@@turboflash_ in this case they’ve lumped all generalised “wedge shaped” craft together Kinda like saying a BMW or a Ford are the same family since the examples given are both sedans… Their use age of the term does have a certain logic, but is also inherently flawed in that regard There’s also the basis that the term “Star destroyers” didn’t necessarily app,y to vessels that would fit the classification of “destroyer” at least by real world earth naval guidelines
@@papalaz4444244 bearing in mind the first time this stuff was put to paper was Episode IV... these kind of ships were hunting down rebel ships such as Princess Leia's, running tiny "errands" to remote planets like Tatooine, and escorting the Death Star. They might have actually just accidentally wrote themselves into a corner and just hoped nobody would notice a tiny jargon gaffe---
@@MidwestAF2 I don't think so. The Prequels were mostly met with slight disappointment. Few people loved them. (Much of the fanbase is kids who grew up with them rather than the OT. ) I didn't hate the prequels, but I disliked certain aspects (midichlorians, calling Anakin "Annie", Making Boba Fett a clone..). Jar Jar wasn't divisive. Nearly everybody hated him! However, the Sequels were either loved or hated, not much middle ground. So I'd say both trilogies were "controversial", or "flawed" , but the Sequels are the truly "divisive" ones.
Cause it’s the cold truth, the prequels had an actual plan, easily laid out by the original trilogy, buttt the sequels absolutely didn’t and the higher ups meddling with the filmmakers killed any chance of high acclaim
5:20 I’d love to know the metrics they use to come up with those kinds of figures Cos first off, something that big…YOU BUILD IT IN ORBIT…then once it’s under power, you can use its own systems to hover in atmosphere But a transit from earth to Mars…they are clearly assuming “to send something that size mass and design with our current technology” The obvious detail is that the various parts used in universe to build such a ship are quite common…take building a car…you can quite easily and cheaply get mass items like fused and such… The more expensive things we’d struggle with are far easier to come across in bulk since they have the infrastructure long standing already
Not to forget that imperial admirals were permitted to customise their flagships within their own fleets, particularly notable example is grand admiral thrawns chimaera, which has the chimaera pattern on its ventral surface
Fun fact: emperor palpatine knew the cost of building the star destroyers would be expensive, so he reused the venator class cruiser from clone wars and every 1 year he would send them to a planet Bracca (scrap planet) and reuse some parts of the venator and put together a cheaper versions of the destroyers.
Great stream Jules. Lots of common knowledge for us in the know, but educational for my wife that's recently taken an interest in Star Wars and also helped me build our Sons Lego Star Destroyer 😂 👍
Who said anything about putting it in space? You do understand none of this is real, right? Jesus Christ guys, you must be real hits at parties. I'm not the one assigning real world values to fantasy science fiction spaceships here, so excuuuuuse me for using the closest real world figure I could think of to compare it to.
If I hear him say destroyer ship one more time... It's Star Destroyer. It's the name. Sure, it could be a destroyer class of ship, but nobody in the history of the franchise has ever referred to them as anything other than Star Destroyers. On top of that, the phrase destroyer ship isn't even what you'd call an Earth Navy destroyer. It's just wrong on every level.
I have the lego set that came with the escape pod, loved building that thing as a kid. It's missing more parts than I care to admit now but it still looks cool!
All that I know about the Star Destroyers is from both the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy. Since I never cared for the sequel trilogy the Star Destroyers existence in them doesn't matter to me.
I like how everyone keeps going on about the cost of building things like Star Destroyers and the two Death Stars, when, logically speaking, the Empire could (and, from what we know about them, more than likely did) just take the materials by force and employ slave labor to build them. Then again, I'm just a filthy casual when it comes to Star Wars, so I could be talking out of my exhaust port.
So, theoretically speaking, Elon Musk, (or even Bernard Arnault or Jeff Bezos, for example, at net worths most recently approximated to be upwards of 190, and up to 220 billion, each,) building one Imperial-Class Star Destroyer would quite literally be an expenditure that would, from their points of view, be pocket change. I mean, even one billion is such a staggeringly unimaginable number, it's really difficult to get one's head around. If you tried counting to a billion, counting at one number every second, starting with; "One", it would take you more than 30 years. Now, multiply that by a hundred and ninety, or even two hundred and twenty, and you begin to understand how incredibly, (ridiculously,) wealthy that really is. What else costs massive amounts of money? A standard F-14 "Tomcat" fighter? Approximately $38,000,000 One Nuclear powered Naval Aircraft Carrier? The nuclear-powered carrier; "USS Gerald R. Ford" (CVN 78) is expected to cost the US taxpayers approximately $12.8 billion dollars. (That's just in materials and labor. I/E; not including the cost of maintenance and service life, ecological footprint, etc.) Jeff Bezos, for example, could theoretically afford to purchase his own personal fleet of the most recent and technologically advanced American warships lol (if he were so inclined, of course,) and, it has recently been speculated that the World's very first Trillionaires will be whomever figures out the safest and most effective way to mine raw materials from asteroids. (Which are, surprisingly, in abundance in relative proximity to the Earth, located within the orbit of Jupiter, by the millions. So, thereby well within the current industry technology.) I mean, rare-Earth elements are only rare here, on Earth. There are plenty of giant, kilometer-plus sized asteroids out there that are primarily made up of heavy metals. Metallic asteroids are primarily iron and nickel, but can contain rare, (to us on Earth,) metals like platinum, gold, iridium, palladium, osmium, ruthenium and rhodium at concentrations several times higher than what is found here, on Earth. And, building structures in space is something we've had the technological and engineering experience and ability to do for decades now. If we didn't have to extract the raw materials here, on the surface, before blasting it into space, the low-Earth orbital environment would arguably already be populated with far more than a few hundred navigation, scientific, and telecommunications satellites and an international Space Station. So, given the right motivations, it's perfectly easy for one to to imagine a future in which a sufficiently wealthy individual, or more appropriately group, figuring out a way to procure the necessary resources and labor to make such a thing as a Star Destroyer possible. I don't know about anyone else, but that's not a future I'd be too disappointed about living in, myself. ✌
Guys, Imperial I-Class Star Destroyers are the Star Destoryers in a new hope, rogue one and Rebels, which have big X-like structure on top between the two spheres In the empire strikes back and the return of the jedi the model was changed and all Star Destroyers have a little bar between the spheres, these are Imperial II-Class Star Destroyers. (Reason: In the new hope they had three Models for the Star Destroyers and after the success they made six new models for the empire strikes back, which were a little different to the new hope-ones) Please don´t say Imperial I-Class and show the picture of an imperial II-Class (2:10 2:14 3:42 4:37) These are imperial I-Class (0:54 3:07 3:30 3:55 5:18 6:17)
Yeah I remember in empire at war the capital ships which would be the star destroyer for empire and mon calimari cruisers for the rebellion would absolutely wreak enemy frigates. Main weakness would be bomber types. Take out the shields, hangers and engines to prevent escape you could easily overwhelm a capital ship. But that just from empire at wars standpoint
Personal favourite tactic to wreck rebel fleets in the game, they send in overwhelming numbers of smaller ships, bombers and swings… Manually turn off the gravity well generator to allow them to attempt retreat into hyperspace which the rebel ai would do quite often, during the preparation to jump timer, enemy ships didn’t attack, stayed still, and took at least 2x-2.5x damage When the timer was about 1 second remaining, turn the generator back on, cancelling the timer, then turn back off…soon after the enemy ai would attempt another jump Repeat
Fun fact: the most popular and most copied disc in the sport of disc golf (think golf but with frisbee’s) is called? Star Destroyer. Star being the plastic blend. Destroyer being the model name.
I think you forgot one thing when you were talking about the cost there, Jules. This whole tale unfolds "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away". Key phrase there being, a long time ago. You take inflation into account, and it probably costs a lot more than that in today's dollars. I don't trust Forbes on this one either. For one thing, a galactic empire has far more resources at its disposal than one puny little planet, which would probably mean a much larger amount of currency in circulation, with a much greater value than any of ours. And for another, when most of the technology the super-ship uses doesn't exist on our world, who can actually predict how much it would cost if it did?
25.000 destroyers, basically accumulates to 15.900.000.000.000.000 dollars, that’s absolutely bonkers xD The Empire is filthy rich no doubt about it!! In addition, that’s just the cost for building the ships, crew, maintenance and every form of provision is not included in this hefty price tag…
lost me when you started talking about those godawful disney movie *edit* i kept listening in the background while i fed my dogs, roman generals were only called imperator by their troops after doing something big and important not as a granted title. oh and nice job using Lionel Noel Royer "Vercingetorix Throws down His Arms at the Feet of Julius Caesar" as a visual for the roman empire
less than $700 billion for a ISD isn't that bad, the ISS costed about 100-150 billion. so an ISD, for its power and size is financially not that bad in the context of being built on Earth.
I mean if 636 billion dollars was all it took to go faster than light, and get a cool war ship on top of that. I'm pretty sure it'd be worthy of the price.
Seriously? I’m in the US, and although I do watch a lot of “foreign” news networks, including GB News and the BBC, and while I’ve heard mention of the app, I’ve never seen a dollar figure attached to it. This actually relates to a serious concern I have about this whole Covid pandemic, that I’ve yet to see any serious coverage of. Over the last two years, we’ve heard a lot about bailout bills and such, but am I the only one whose noticed a complete lack of discussion about the costs of the countless billions of Covid tests, and hundreds of millions of vaccine doses that have been give? How much of each country’s wealth is being funneled into the pockets of big pharma, and despite the taxpayer footing much of the bill to develop the various vaccines, it’s their manufacturers that are getting truckloads of money for them, but how much, and from where? How much is each test, and vaccine dose, costing US taxpayers, and how does that compare to the other free nations of the world? Further, where are those funds coming from, are they including in these insanely huge multi trillion dollar spending packages, that are on top of the several trillions already spent each year, or are taxpayers from the various nations going to be hit with a monstrous bill at some point down the line? If all these tests, and vaccines, aren’t covered in the crazy amount of spending taking place under Biden, Pelosi and the democrats, than the USA as a nation is likely doomed, as the national debt will spike to levels never before even imagined! But of course, by that time, those politicians, from both parties, that sold us down the river will be retired from government services, and be getting truckloads of cash from the very companies they helped to loot and burn the US economy.
@@johnpatz8395 £37bn, the 2 year cost for Track and Trace is a hair’s width under $50bn at todays exchange. I don’t want to get political but it’s not the medical industry cashing in here (UK), it’s donors of the current government, all their posh school mates. They slapped NHS branding on the app, but it was a firm called serco. The app (and staff behind it, that’s masses of database and call centres) needed to be around 80% effective to work in reducing transmission but it never made half of that and was deemed to have made no difference. It’s been exploited for that but the government here have presided over one of the worst death tolls in the western world because their greed was such that they failed to take measures and want us all in work… the science is y the problem, it’s the elite. Very Star Wars! P.S. GB News is total BS, don’t believe a word of it…
@@AntoekneeDE Ironically, the best possible case is that they funneled billions to their buddies, as otherwise it’s simply the massive increase in the “surveillance state,” and one large enough to make the CCP rulers in China proud
Isn’t it weird how ‘Star Destroyers’ never destroy stars. The ‘Death Star’ only brings death to planets. ‘Starkiller base’ however, though much lambasted, actually kills stars. Something the trades descriptions act would very much like to take a look at.
Hey Jules, great vid and very informative although all the way through you kept calling it a 1 class star destroyer? Is this right? Did you mean I class star destroyer? As in ISD (Imperial Star Destroyer) as opposed to VSD (Victory Star Destroyer) or SSD (Super Star Destroyer). It's just I've never heard 1 class before. Thoroughly enjoyed the video mind.
Actually there were two different Star Destroyer models, the Imperial-I was seen in the opening shot of A New Hope, and the Imperial-II was a newer model built for Empire and after. The most obvious differences can be seen in the bridge modules. The turrets are different (8 dual on the I, vs 8 quad on the II), and the raised bits of armor have different shapes. This is why when Rogue One came out, fans were excited to see that the VFX artists recreated the older model from A New Hope, rather than going with the more common newer model from the later movies.
Why would it take 4T to get it off earth if it can just fly itself off, it’s not like you would need to launch it. We have seen star destroyers fly near the ground in at least one movie so it’s possible.
Technically 1 Imperial Credit is mire akin to 1.5US Dollar as per an analysis by the channel Generation Tech based on a comparison of costs for comparable real world items such as food and clothing.
if you see ONE, you might be fine--- just hope your community isn't secretly a rebel base! if you see an entire fleet of them... don't run, they can glass your entire planet so unless you can get into hyperspace before they get into position there is nowhere to go XD
wait...ISDs had an officer to enlisted ration of 1:2 ??? Am I getting that right, one officer for every two subordinate crew? any officer has no excuse to not know the names of their Tweedle Dee and Tweedle dum!
Thats not how you say imperator, and not what it is. The army declared their general, imperator. Where the general goes and requests a triumph. Which is effectively the end of their military career. :p
would cost $636 billion? That means we could have built at least two of these based on how much money the government wasted during COVID....such poor use of financial resources!
OMG Where do I start. 1st of all there isn't a Star Wars fan alive that isn't completely brain dead that hasn't heard of Venators. I mean, are you frigging serious. Second of all STOP calling them destroyer ships. They're either Star Destroyers or Imperial CRUISERS because they're Not destroyers. They are WAY too big to just be a destroyer. I've had this discussion with people for like ever now. Han even said so on the escape from Tatooine. Thirdly there is no way to calculate the cost of a Star Destroyer because all we ever see Is exterior shots and hallways. There's no way to calculate the price of specialized equipment on board.
All those "a star destroyer can do this and this to a planet" really don't hold up at all. It's mostly all from early text thrown in the RPG and was never very coherent.
$636 BILLION USD????? So.....in MUCH regards to that aspect, not MUCH of a change from the F-#% Lightning II, right??? With a price tag of over $80 Billion each
For as many times as you say "Impirial One-Class Star Destroyer," you ought to know that it's actually "Imperial I-Class (like eye) Star destroyer," as in "Imperial-Class Star Destroyer." -_-
The Supremacy was Snoke's ship from episode 8 that resembled a flying wing bomber. It was 60km wide and held within it a fleet of 8 additional standard Star Destroyers & squadrons of fighters. Vader's Executor flagship was "only" 19km long.
Well yes and no, the supremacy wasn't a star destroyer per sa, it was a star dreadnought, the largest standard star destroyer class during the galactic empire was the imperial 1-class, the overall longest star destroyer was the resurgent class that the first order used. Then there are the super star destroyers including the executor and eclipse which were crazy big
Interesting things, but the number of ISDs produced (inculding both ISD I. and II.) is seems a bit high thought. 25000 ISDs is too much to be built in such short time the Empire was in power. Lets say it was produced for 24 years. Coming from that it was introduced 18 years BBY and the Galactic Empire dissolved around 5 ABY, lets say their production is stopped at that time. So it means they produced at least 1050 ISDs every year. Almost 3/day! If really this would be the case, the Death Star wouldn't be needed. I know the galaxy is huge, but 25k ISDs is too much. I think its a plot mistake by the Canon creators, as if I remember correctly, first time, their numbers were mentioned in the original Thrawn trilogy (written by Timothy Zahn) by Captain Palleon. This number was brought into Canon. If you search for it, it will lead to "Star Wars: Uprising". It is a Canon Android game.. in my prespective hardly serious, so this 25000 seems an idle story to me. There would be a lot of plot holes arround it, like in the new Thrawn Trilogy, which is now Canon as well, meantiones that when the first deathstar was built, the Donium(the metal that imperial ships use as armor) price when to the skies. yeah, its huge, but it was started to built in 21 BBY, lets say the real work begun around 5 years before it was destroyed, still, why would its resource affect the galactic trade so much if they built around 5200 ISDs that time, not to mention every other vessels that were in production...
@@kentlangres2879 True, but I doubt that they were only building ISDs, and Mon Calamari stopped their production after their rebellion against the empire, plus just think about it, 250 000 ISDs... and only around 33 were deployed at the battle of Endor, lead by an SSD. The 7th Fleet was composed of 25+-1 ISDs. And the destruction of a few ISDs wouldn't be so much victory for the rebels if the empire build 3/day anyway... each of the large scale battles with many ISDs would be considered very very small skirmishes in comparison, if we take the 25k ISDs as true numbers. I know this number is Canon, but that still doesn't make sense. At least for me. And you wouldn't feel their weight as well, like when you saw that ISD in Rogue One floating above Jedha, you would have the impression that the Empire is doing something serious here if they sent a Destroyer to guard it, not just that one of the 25k Destroyers are here, they are just probably guarding their coffee makers...
Never say that in front of a hardcore Star Wars fan lol. Though truth be told, it doesn't matter. Like, at all. Why do people get worked up about this?
It's both, lucas already said it can be either since the A-T-A-T method works better with the other types of walkers like the at-st or at-te, those arnt pronounced attest or atty are they?
@@wwzaudible and you're entitled to that opinion, but the fact that the guy who literally invented them says that it can be either, means your opinion is incorrect
Doesn't really matter... it would still be filled with pilots that have lousy aim and stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of anything the resistance showed up in. 27,000 worthless crew that miss every single shot... Haha...
I can't claim to be a Star Wars expert. I just like about 50% of the stuff coming out of the IP in the last +40 years. But with that said, and please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it is "Imperial One Class". Isn't it Imperial "i" class? The "i" designating "imperial" so it is known to be the newer model over the older Republic destroyers.
Nope it's Latin numbers, the class 1 and class 2 isd have slightly different internal systems, generally those made before the battle of yavin were class 1 and those after were class 2. The empire used the venator class during the transition between Republic and imperial navy with the imperial class coming into service sometime in or after 18BBY